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Title: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: Darren Avey on October 11, 2013, 04:00:12 PM



Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: arce1988 on October 11, 2013, 04:02:15 PM
  Fuck with the bull
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: Knooger on October 11, 2013, 04:03:15 PM
Ha Ha, he got knocked the fuck out.
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: Twaddle on October 11, 2013, 05:20:59 PM
Did he died?   ???   :-X
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: TrueGrit on October 11, 2013, 05:23:33 PM
Bouncer out of controlled.
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: youandme on October 11, 2013, 05:43:34 PM
Bouncer out of controlled.

Yep, now this guy is going to have a huge lawsuit against the bouncer and most importantly the club that he worked for $$$$$

His lawyer is going to love this tape even if they try to pin the guy as the instigator, lol.
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: WalterWhite on October 11, 2013, 05:52:08 PM
Yep, now this guy is going to have a huge lawsuit against the bouncer and most importantly the club that he worked for $$$$$

His lawyer is going to love this tape even if they try to pin the guy as the instigator, lol.

The guy was throwing punches at the bouncer and his actions were clear self defense.  Juries don't sympathize with morons so good luck to him suing.
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: Natural Man on October 11, 2013, 06:18:22 PM
GREAT. Just great. Dude looked far from being drunk, fight was almost tie, he deserved it, will probably end in a wheelchair. Hope bouncer gets no heat, it's self defense, period.  
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: 240 is Back on October 11, 2013, 06:21:29 PM
its never a good thing when your feet leave the ground during a fight.
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: MikMaq on October 11, 2013, 06:26:46 PM
Bouncer was a bitch clearly had weight on his side.
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: Natural Man on October 11, 2013, 06:34:54 PM
Bouncer was a bitch clearly had weight on his side.
I'm sure he provoked that punk in the first place right?  ::)
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: MikMaq on October 11, 2013, 06:45:16 PM
I'm sure he provoked that punk in the first place right?  ::)
  You know what I'm saying the force isn't on par to the fight dude had the long term advantage.
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: WOOO on October 11, 2013, 06:55:22 PM
the patron was outside of the establishment... bouncer should have gone in, locked the door and waited for the cops...

believe what you like but he will likely be charged, prosecuted and convicted of a crime to be determined based on the severity of the asshole's injuries...

i worked the door for a number of years and had 2 serious run-ins with the law for lesser situations
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: Natural Man on October 11, 2013, 06:55:54 PM
  You know what I'm saying the force isn't on par to the fight dude had the long term advantage.
are you retarded -oh wait- or something, this punk asked for it from start to finish.
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: lightweight on October 11, 2013, 06:57:33 PM
The bouncer started throwing punches first.. self defense from a verbal attack?
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: C-BuZz on October 11, 2013, 07:00:04 PM
Bouncer is a MT fighter no doubt & he threw the first leg kick then straight into the clinch with knees.

He's in big trouble IMO. Other guy was a full blown noob.
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: Shockwave on October 11, 2013, 07:29:02 PM
  You know what I'm saying the force isn't on par to the fight dude had the long term advantage.
you dont scale your force to your opponent in a street fight.

jesus christ dude. You end it. Like, yesterday, lest the dude kick you in thr balls and smash your head with a rock.
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: WalterWhite on October 11, 2013, 07:44:19 PM
One punch and the guy later died. Bouncer has not been charged.

Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: the trainer on October 11, 2013, 07:46:45 PM
This bouncer is going to jail and will be paying a lot of money to the guy, the guy was on the sidewalk not in the club and the bouncer attacked the guy first plus you can see from the video that he has martial arts training so his hands will be considered to be weapons under the law, man he is in some serious trouble.
 All he had to do once he clinched with the guy was to put him in a guillotine  or standing side choke and he could have put the guy to sleep with no harm done i always tell bouncers at the gym that brazilian jiu jitsu is the best art to train because you can put down a guy without getting into trouble with the law.
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: Shockwave on October 11, 2013, 07:49:15 PM
This bouncer is going to jail and will be paying a lot of money to the guy, the guy was on the sidewalk not in the club and the bouncer attacked the guy first plus you can see from the video that he has martial arts training so his hands will be considered to be weapons under the law, man he is in some serious trouble.
 All he had to do once he clinched with the guy was to put him in a guillotine  or standing side choke and he could have put the guy to sleep with no harm done i always tell bouncers at the gym that brazilian jiu jitsu is the best art to train because you can put down a guy without getting into trouble with the law.
hands considered weapons under the law because youre trained? Ive never heard of such ridiculousosity. Is that like registering you hands as lethal weapons when you become a 300lb, lt col army/navy SEAL/green beret german shepherd spine-snapping ninja witch?
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: Twaddle on October 11, 2013, 08:00:21 PM
hands considered weapons under the law because youre trained? Ive never heard of such ridiculousosity. Is that like registering you hands as lethal weapons when you become a 300lb, lt col army/navy SEAL/green beret german shepherd spine-snapping ninja witch?

You called?   :D

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Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: BDsauce on October 11, 2013, 08:07:19 PM
Should of pulled guard, cause you know that BJJ is dangerous stuff
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: asbrus on October 11, 2013, 08:12:27 PM
The guy was throwing punches at the bouncer and his actions were clear self defense.  Juries don't sympathize with morons so good luck to him suing.

H0W D0 Y0U KN0W IT'S SELF DEFENSE AND THE B0UNCER DID N0T GET 0UT 0F HAND BEF0RE? 0H THAT'S RIGHT THE Y0U D0N'T. BECAUSE THE VID D0SEN'T SH0W IT. A L0T 0F B0UNCERS START THE FIGHT. I'D L0VE T0 SEE THE B0UNCER TRY T0 LIFT ME UP LIKE THAT. N0T 0NLY WILL I BREAK HIS JAW IN THE PR0CESS, BUT IF HE WANTS T0 G0 WRESTLE WITH ME I'LL TAKE HIM D0WN IN 5 SEC0NDS AND CH0KE HIS FUCKING ASS 0UT.
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: WOOO on October 11, 2013, 08:15:06 PM
H0W D0 Y0U KN0W IT'S SELF DEFENSE AND THE B0UNCER DID N0T GET 0UT 0F HAND BEF0RE? 0H THAT'S RIGHT THE Y0U D0N'T. BECAUSE THE VID D0SEN'T SH0W IT. A L0T 0F B0UNCERS START THE FIGHT. I'D L0VE T0 SEE THE B0UNCER TRY T0 LIFT ME UP LIKE THAT. N0T 0NLY WILL I BREAK HIS JAW IN THE PR0CESS, BUT IF HE WANTS T0 G0 WRESTLE WITH ME I'LL TAKE HIM D0WN IN 5 SEC0NDS AND CH0KE HIS FUCKING ASS 0UT.

EPIC USE OF ALL CAPS
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: HockeyFightFan on October 11, 2013, 08:15:52 PM
  Fuck with the bull

Exactly....a lot of guys get that six pack of courage in them.

Fuck that punk.
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: Palpatine Q on October 11, 2013, 08:18:04 PM
 You know what I'm saying the force isn't on par to the fight dude had the long term advantage.

When someone is trying to punch me in the face as hard as they can, and hurt me...being "cool about it" goes out the window.  I'll kill you if I could get away with it

That being said...that bouncer is probably in trouble. Guy was in the street and did not pose any sort of threat.
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: WalterWhite on October 11, 2013, 08:19:25 PM
H0W D0 Y0U KN0W IT'S SELF DEFENSE AND THE B0UNCER DID N0T GET 0UT 0F HAND BEF0RE? 0H THAT'S RIGHT THE Y0U D0N'T. BECAUSE THE VID D0SEN'T SH0W IT. A L0T 0F B0UNCERS START THE FIGHT. I'D L0VE T0 SEE THE B0UNCER TRY T0 LIFT ME UP LIKE THAT. N0T 0NLY WILL I BREAK HIS JAW IN THE PR0CESS, BUT IF HE WANTS T0 G0 WRESTLE WITH ME I'LL TAKE HIM D0WN IN 5 SEC0NDS AND CH0KE HIS FUCKING ASS 0UT.

I only have the vid to go by and you can see them square off at the beginning. So if you were the bouncer and a guy squared in front of you you would not fight? You never wait for the other guy to strike first.

It's all supposition until we obtain more facts.
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: WalterWhite on October 11, 2013, 08:20:23 PM
When someone is trying to punch me in the face as hard as they can, and hurt me...being "cool about it" goes out the window.  I'll kill you if I could get away with it

Exactly!
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: keanu on October 11, 2013, 08:44:03 PM
MMA slam? He curled him and threw him. Pure power. No MMA there. Lesson learned: If you don't know how to fight, don't get into fights.
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: C-BuZz on October 11, 2013, 09:40:42 PM
I only have the vid to go by and you can see them square off at the beginning. So if you were the bouncer and a guy squared in front of you you would not fight? You never wait for the other guy to strike first.

It's all supposition until we obtain more facts.

No you wouldn't. ESPECIALLY if your an on duty security guard who knows exactly how to defuse a situation like that within seconds. Security guard wanted to bang no doubt about it & he's going to pay the price for it.

The ONLY time you start banging is when your directly in harms way, which the security guard was not. Not even close.
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: tonymctones on October 11, 2013, 09:52:48 PM
should have been over 30 seconds earlier, moments after they clinched he should have had him on the ground
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: leonp1981 on October 11, 2013, 09:57:36 PM
I've never understood these retards who argue with the bouncers.  You've been kicked out, get over it, and go away.  You really think arguing with him is going to change his mind?  I used to manage pubs/clubs, and it was the same thing every week. 

This tool obviously deserved a slap, but the bouncer didn't need to get involved here.  He's provoking the situation at the start of this vid, when he should have stayed on his door and let the police deal with this idiot. 

Now if the tool did swing first, then it's a little different, but a quick slap to put him on the ground would suffice.
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: youandme on October 11, 2013, 09:59:19 PM
The guy was throwing punches at the bouncer and his actions were clear self defense.  Juries don't sympathize with morons so good luck to him suing.

Wrong, but I won't get into it tonight. The bouncer is going to pay and the club is going to pay, period.

Jury trials??? Less than 10% of cases go to trial.
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: Palpatine Q on October 11, 2013, 10:04:18 PM
I've never understood these retards who argue with the bouncers.  You've been kicked out, get over it, and go away.  You really think arguing with him is going to change his mind?  I used to manage pubs/clubs, and it was the same thing every week. 

This tool obviously deserved a slap, but the bouncer didn't need to get involved here.  He's provoking the situation at the start of this vid, when he should have stayed on his door and let the police deal with this idiot. 

Now if the tool did swing first, then it's a little different, but a quick slap to put him on the ground would suffice.

This.  I ran security myself.  I would have fired him for being a dumb cowboy. The moment someone is off the premises they aren't our problem anymore. A good doorman..and a good bouncer..never fight and people like them.
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: arce1988 on October 11, 2013, 10:06:37 PM
Quote
A good doorman.. and a good bouncer... never fight, and people like them.

^
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: youandme on October 11, 2013, 10:08:05 PM
No you wouldn't. ESPECIALLY if your an on duty security guard who knows exactly how to defuse a situation like that within seconds. Security guard wanted to bang no doubt about it & he's going to pay the price for it.

The ONLY time you start banging is when your directly in harms way, which the security guard was not. Not even close.

Pretty much sums it up. All one needs to do is look into torts law and agency law and know that this guy and club are fucked.
You want to run a club; hire a bouncer that doesn't have aggressive tendencies knows how to diffuse situtations and handle things in a professional cool manner while safeguarding patrons and club property. Self-defense, yeah that doesn't include body slams. This is why clubs hire police or other uniformed officers now. Yada yada

Clubs like this pay out the ass all the time for hiring thug bouncers, then their tempers get the best of them.
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: SF1900 on October 11, 2013, 10:10:30 PM
hands considered weapons under the law because youre trained? Ive never heard of such ridiculousosity. Is that like registering you hands as lethal weapons when you become a 300lb, lt col army/navy SEAL/green beret german shepherd spine-snapping ninja witch?


 :D :D

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2111617/Fernando-Rodrigues-jailed-Judge-rules-martial-arts-fighters-hands-feet-deadly-weapons.html
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: basil on October 11, 2013, 10:12:38 PM
Why is the doorman by himself?  What kind of joint would leave security staff work alone?  Bush league. 
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: Mitch on October 11, 2013, 11:59:27 PM
Why is the doorman by himself?  What kind of joint would leave security staff work alone?  Bush league. 
My thought exactly. But entertaining video nonetheless.
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: Cold on October 12, 2013, 01:52:35 AM
I worked bouncer for years.

3 seconds into this video I knew this bouncer was going to spend time in prison. He's in a lot of trouble.

Bouncers I worked with got charged and spent time in the slammer for shoving guys against walls.

This bouncer clearly started the fight. Even if he didn't start the fight (in this case, he started it), he's still fucked. Lots of time in prison. Kiss that bouncer career goodbye. The owner of that club is also fucked. This is the kind of stuff that gets clubs shut down for good. City won't even review.
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: freespirit on October 12, 2013, 01:57:23 AM
H0W D0 Y0U KN0W IT'S SELF DEFENSE AND THE B0UNCER DID N0T GET 0UT 0F HAND BEF0RE? 0H THAT'S RIGHT THE Y0U D0N'T. BECAUSE THE VID D0SEN'T SH0W IT. A L0T 0F B0UNCERS START THE FIGHT. I'D L0VE T0 SEE THE B0UNCER TRY T0 LIFT ME UP LIKE THAT. N0T 0NLY WILL I BREAK HIS JAW IN THE PR0CESS, BUT IF HE WANTS T0 G0 WRESTLE WITH ME I'LL TAKE HIM D0WN IN 5 SEC0NDS AND CH0KE HIS FUCKING ASS 0UT.



Oh my god you must be quite the warrior!   :o
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: Darren Avey on October 12, 2013, 02:00:24 AM
H0W D0 Y0U KN0W IT'S SELF DEFENSE AND THE B0UNCER DID N0T GET 0UT 0F HAND BEF0RE? 0H THAT'S RIGHT THE Y0U D0N'T. BECAUSE THE VID D0SEN'T SH0W IT. A L0T 0F B0UNCERS START THE FIGHT. I'D L0VE T0 SEE THE B0UNCER TRY T0 LIFT ME UP LIKE THAT. N0T 0NLY WILL I BREAK HIS JAW IN THE PR0CESS, BUT IF HE WANTS T0 G0 WRESTLE WITH ME I'LL TAKE HIM D0WN IN 5 SEC0NDS AND CH0KE HIS FUCKING ASS 0UT.
And what if hes a better wrestler than you?Or is that not possible as you are the greatest wrestler that ever lived!  ::)
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: WOOO on October 12, 2013, 02:08:21 AM
This.  I ran security myself.  I would have fired him for being a dumb cowboy. The moment someone is off the premises they aren't our problem anymore. A good doorman..and a good bouncer..never fight and people like them.

x2

I worked bouncer for years.

3 seconds into this video I knew this bouncer was going to spend time in prison. He's in a lot of trouble.

Bouncers I worked with got charged and spent time in the slammer for shoving guys against walls.

This bouncer clearly started the fight. Even if he didn't start the fight (in this case, he started it), he's still fucked. Lots of time in prison. Kiss that bouncer career goodbye. The owner of that club is also fucked. This is the kind of stuff that gets clubs shut down for good. City won't even review.

bang on... i had to go to court twice and that was in the days of witnesses... smartphones have changed the security and law enforcement rules of engagement substantially... if you're going to beat someone you need to do it in private
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: Conker on October 12, 2013, 02:08:37 AM
bouncer is an idiot, was struggling to get the upper hand against a kid weighing half his weight, so ended up having to resort to something drastic to save face. hope he gets locked up.
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: Sam on October 12, 2013, 02:10:37 AM
I worked bouncer for years.

3 seconds into this video I knew this bouncer was going to spend time in prison. He's in a lot of trouble.

Bouncers I worked with got charged and spent time in the slammer for shoving guys against walls.

This bouncer clearly started the fight. Even if he didn't start the fight (in this case, he started it), he's still fucked. Lots of time in prison. Kiss that bouncer career goodbye. The owner of that club is also fucked. This is the kind of stuff that gets clubs shut down for good. City won't even review.

Spoken for truth - the bouncer just needed to go back inside the club. Once you take it on the street you are in big trouble. Outside the club the patron is somebody else's problem.

Jail time for the bouncer
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: Darren Avey on October 12, 2013, 02:55:41 AM
Then we'll see how bad he is "IN DA JOINT"
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: bigmc on October 12, 2013, 03:39:27 AM
i always tell my guys you can never be seen as the aggressor

charging someone stood on the street is indefensible

if they play that video in court the guy will do time
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: Ron on October 12, 2013, 03:46:35 AM

It is the bouncers job to keep cool when someone verbally confronts them.  This bouncer did not, threw the first punches, and clearly went after the drunk dude on the sidewalk.  No self defense at all.  The bouncer just lost it.  Slam dunk lawsuit and any jury would agree that the bouncer started the fight first.

Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: Kwon_2 on October 12, 2013, 04:40:38 AM
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: WOOO on October 12, 2013, 04:43:34 AM
It is the bouncers job to keep cool when someone verbally confronts them.  This bouncer did not, threw the first punches, and clearly went after the drunk dude on the sidewalk.  No self defense at all.  The bouncer just lost it.  Slam dunk lawsuit and any jury would agree that the bouncer started the fight first.



hi ron
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: Kwon_2 on October 12, 2013, 04:44:29 AM
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: oldtimer1 on October 12, 2013, 04:45:37 AM
I thought I heard French accents. Do they even have law suits in France or Quebec?  

I tried to watch the tape carefully. It seems the club patron was trying to use a hip throw as in Uki Goshi in Judo. So he had some grappling experience. The big bouncer uses the correct defense in lifting him. 
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: oldtimer1 on October 12, 2013, 04:53:14 AM
This bouncer is going to jail and will be paying a lot of money to the guy, the guy was on the sidewalk not in the club and the bouncer attacked the guy first plus you can see from the video that he has martial arts training so his hands will be considered to be weapons under the law, man he is in some serious trouble.
 All he had to do once he clinched with the guy was to put him in a guillotine  or standing side choke and he could have put the guy to sleep with no harm done i always tell bouncers at the gym that brazilian jiu jitsu is the best art to train because you can put down a guy without getting into trouble with the law.

Chokes in the dojo with a tap out are fairly safe. Chokes in a real fight run the risk of death with adrenaline running and no gentlemen tap out rules. Chokes have been used to kill people since the beginning of time.
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: TrueGrit on October 12, 2013, 04:53:53 AM
I thought I heard French accents. Do they even have law suits in France or Quebec?  

I tried to watch the tape carefully. It seems the club patron was trying to use a hip throw as in Uki Goshi in Judo. So he had some grappling experience. The big bouncer uses the correct defense in lifting him. 

It's England
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: King Shizzo on October 12, 2013, 05:59:42 AM
This.  I ran security myself.  I would have fired him for being a dumb cowboy. The moment someone is off the premises they aren't our problem anymore. A good doorman..and a good bouncer..never fight and people like them.
Ok Daulton  ;D
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: Palpatine Q on October 12, 2013, 06:05:28 AM
Ok Daulton  ;D

Who's Dalton ?
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: hench on October 12, 2013, 06:10:09 AM
Dalton would have ended that with ease  ;)
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Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: Palpatine Q on October 12, 2013, 06:14:34 AM
Dalton would have ended that with ease  ;)
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Ah....never saw that stupid movie
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: hench on October 12, 2013, 06:17:51 AM
don't let this guy hear you say that!  ;D
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Ah....never saw that stupid movie
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: dr.chimps on October 12, 2013, 06:30:33 AM
Ah....never saw that stupid movie
Probably on AMC, right now. One of those so-bad-it's-good movies.
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: Palpatine Q on October 12, 2013, 06:35:04 AM
Probably on AMC, right now. One of those so-bad-it's-good movies.


It's a Patrick Swayze thing. I just can't deal with that douche.  Talk about Punchable Face Syndrome.
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: MAXX on October 12, 2013, 06:39:14 AM
brutal

slams are alot more effective on a concrete street than in the mma ring that's for sure lol
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: Army of One on October 12, 2013, 06:59:16 AM
This bouncer is going to jail and will be paying a lot of money to the guy, the guy was on the sidewalk not in the club and the bouncer attacked the guy first plus you can see from the video that he has martial arts training so his hands will be considered to be weapons under the law, man he is in some serious trouble.
 All he had to do once he clinched with the guy was to put him in a guillotine  or standing side choke and he could have put the guy to sleep with no harm done i always tell bouncers at the gym that brazilian jiu jitsu is the best art to train because you can put down a guy without getting into trouble with the law.

This, the bouncer is fucked
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: King Shizzo on October 12, 2013, 07:06:08 AM

It's a Patrick Swayze thing. I just can't deal with that douche.  Talk about Punchable Face Syndrome.
Roadhouse and Point Break are actually really good movies. As for Dirty Dancing and Ghost.... :-X
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: Army of One on October 12, 2013, 07:11:08 AM

It's a Patrick Swayze thing. I just can't deal with that douche.  Talk about Punchable Face Syndrome.

You can't be a man, and especially be a man who lifts weights and not have seen Roadhouse, its up there with Commando, Predator, Enter The Dragon, Bloodsport etc in the top of the kickass test driven movies.
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: Kwon_2 on October 12, 2013, 07:29:59 AM

It's a Patrick Swayze thing. I just can't deal with that douche.  Talk about Punchable Face Syndrome.

Don't see it as a Swayze-movie, it's actually a classic.

A must see! I really think you should give Roadhouse a chance Big G.
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: King Shizzo on October 12, 2013, 07:50:46 AM
It's settled then. Groink must watch Road House with his girl on movie night. She will take one look at Swayze's 14' guns, and it will seal the deal.

Groink will be getting some action after this night.
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: Voice of Doom on October 12, 2013, 08:06:20 AM
It seems like grappling in a "real life" fight like that is a bad idea.  While this bouncer had the guy in a choke the other fighter could have stuck him with a knife multiple times in the body.  In an uncontrolled environment you never know what the other guy has on him.  Seems to me its better to stay back and throw fists.   ???
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: Palpatine Q on October 12, 2013, 09:38:45 AM
You can't be a man, and especially be a man who lifts weights and not have seen Roadhouse, its up there with Commando, Predator, Enter The Dragon, Bloodsport etc in the top of the kickass test driven movies.

I was counter culture in the 80s, and i think the 80s were garbage. ....didn't see one of those movies in the movie theatre.

I returned to society around 92 when they started making good movies and music again.
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: bigmc on October 12, 2013, 09:40:56 AM
It seems like grappling in a "real life" fight like that is a bad idea.  While this bouncer had the guy in a choke the other fighter could have stuck him with a knife multiple times in the body.  In an uncontrolled environment you never know what the other guy has on him.  Seems to me its better to stay back and throw fists.   ???

most fights end in wrestling matches

its a self preservation instinct
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: youandme on October 12, 2013, 09:54:23 AM
most fights end in wrestling matches

its a self preservation instinct

Seems more like getting tired as hell is more like it.

Some of these professional fighter must have some of the best endurance of any athlete out there. Not to mention your adrenaline is pumping to increase your heart rate even more.

Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: bigmc on October 12, 2013, 09:55:45 AM
Seems more like getting tired as hell is more like it.

Some of these professional fighter must have some of the best endurance of any athlete out there. Not to mention your adrenaline is pumping to increase your heart rate even more.



if someone is throwing hay makers at you

most people will try and grab them hence the wrestling match
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: Palpatine Q on October 12, 2013, 09:59:05 AM
if someone is throwing hay makers at you

most people will try and grab them hence the wrestling match

This. The vast majority of people. ..IE not hardened fighters...will try to close the gap as to not get punched in the face.
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: Shockwave on October 12, 2013, 10:23:04 AM
This. The vast majority of people. ..IE not hardened fighters...will try to close the gap as to not get punched in the face.
yep. And they almost always wind up trying to take it to the ground.
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: King Shizzo on October 12, 2013, 10:24:52 AM
Here is the real question. Wouldn't most fights end in death, if not for other people to break it up?
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: Shockwave on October 12, 2013, 10:30:55 AM
Here is the real question. Wouldn't most fights end in death, if not for other people to break it up?
no way. Most people would stop when the other guy is either out cold or too tired/injured to continue.
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: the trainer on October 12, 2013, 10:37:23 AM
no way. Most people would stop when the other guy is either out cold or too tired/injured to continue.

I disagree i have seen fights where one guy is knocked out and the other guy  is still kicking him in the face and if somebody was not there to pull him off the guy would have died.
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: Shockwave on October 12, 2013, 10:38:52 AM
I disagree i have seen fights where one guy is knocked out and the other kick is still kicking him in the face and if somebody was not there to pull him off the guy would have died.
there is always those guys... most people ive seen give up when the dude stops responding
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: The Showstoppa on October 12, 2013, 12:40:22 PM
From a legal standpoint I wonder if it taling place in the street bice in the bar matters?   As in the bouncer has the right to protect himself or to toss the guy out but not to continue the fight on public property. 
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: WOOO on October 12, 2013, 03:27:19 PM
From a legal standpoint I wonder if it taling place in the street bice in the bar matters?   As in the bouncer has the right to protect himself or to toss the guy out but not to continue the fight on public property. 


even in a bar you are not allowed to assault other people... being a doorman/bouncer is about diplomacy and humor... not about ego and fighting
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: The Showstoppa on October 12, 2013, 04:39:44 PM

even in a bar you are not allowed to assault other people... being a doorman/bouncer is about diplomacy and humor... not about ego and fighting

But no matter what the setting you can defend yourself.  The bouncer in the vid seems to be attacking va defending. 
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: WOOO on October 12, 2013, 04:42:57 PM
But no matter what the setting you can defend yourself.  The bouncer in the vid seems to be attacking va defending. 


defend yes, but use of force must be deemed appropriate and reasonable... i remember my lecture from the judge very well...
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: The Showstoppa on October 12, 2013, 04:52:26 PM

defend yes, but use of force must be deemed appropriate and reasonable... i remember my lecture from the judge very well...

Would you consider the guy in the vid appropriate?
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: WOOO on October 12, 2013, 04:55:47 PM
Would you consider the guy in the vid appropriate?


do you mean the asshole giving the bouncer shit? nah he seemed to be an ass... but he was still attacked
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: The Showstoppa on October 12, 2013, 04:58:24 PM

do you mean the asshole giving the bouncer shit? nah he seemed to be an ass... but he was still attacked

It looked like the bouncer continued the fight after leaving the bar. 
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: Shockwave on October 12, 2013, 04:58:36 PM
Would you consider the guy in the vid appropriate?
hes canadian, so his acceptable use of force will probably be like a wrist slap compared to us.
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: WOOO on October 12, 2013, 05:14:53 PM
It looked like the bouncer continued the fight after leaving the bar. 

duh


hes canadian, so his acceptable use of force will probably be like a wrist slap compared to us.

less so under the harper government but yes... zimmerman would have gone to jail here for sure (although it would be a cushy canadian jail and sentence)

Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: 3Dkiller on October 12, 2013, 07:25:57 PM

even in a bar you are not allowed to assault other people... being a doorman/bouncer is about diplomacy and humor... not about ego and fighting

+1
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: youandme on October 12, 2013, 07:29:30 PM
From a legal standpoint I wonder if it taling place in the street bice in the bar matters?   As in the bouncer has the right to protect himself or to toss the guy out but not to continue the fight on public property. 
Fighting on public vs private property won't matter, ct. more concerned with whether the act was within the scope of employment if you're taking about tort law and wanting to get compensated for the bouncer being a dumbass. Now that people on here say he took the fight out from the bar to the street that's the bars arguement that it wasn't "within the scope and time" and the bouncer took a frolic from work to handle some personal business to beat up this guy. Criminal matter he could be charged with assault and or battery depending on state pretty easily.

When you talk about protecting yourself there is no cooling off period, if you need to protect yourself you do it immediately, so the bouncer can't take the "fight" from inside the club to outside the club and claim self defense. Everyone has the right to defend themselves, however the force used to defend ourself must've equal to that force which one reasonably feared.....snapping a guy on the ground isn't equal to his "air punches"

Plenty of smart bouncers out there that know how to handle themselves really well and diffuse situations without throwing their weight around. Namely Dalton.
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: asbrus on October 13, 2013, 07:41:48 PM
And what if hes a better wrestler than you?Or is that not possible as you are the greatest wrestler that ever lived!  ::)

MY WRESTLING SKILLS ARE D-1  CALIBER. I'VE HANGED WITH 0LYMPIC MEDALISTS IN THE R00M BEF0RE. I PLACED IN CA STATE 0NE 0F THE T0UGHEST STATEES T0 PLACE. JUST NEVER WENT T0 WRESTLE IN D-1 BUT CAN HANG WITH THE GUYS. N0T 0NLY THAT BUT I HAVE FREAKISH STRENGTH.
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: Wolfox on October 13, 2013, 07:53:18 PM
The bouncer started throwing punches first.. self defense from a verbal attack?

Sifu say best defense is a strong offense. Sifu said strike first, strike hard, and strike last.
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: pedro01 on October 13, 2013, 08:02:25 PM
Bouncer was a bitch clearly had weight on his side.

Not necessarily an advantage as the fight goes on.

Steroid bloated bouncer will be out of breath after 45 seconds where a skinny drunk kid with lots of red bull in him could probably run a half-marathon.
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on October 14, 2013, 12:29:54 AM
MY WRESTLING SKILLS ARE D-1  CALIBER. I'VE HANGED WITH 0LYMPIC MEDALISTS IN THE R00M BEF0RE. I PLACED IN CA STATE 0NE 0F THE T0UGHEST STATEES T0 PLACE. JUST NEVER WENT T0 WRESTLE IN D-1 BUT CAN HANG WITH THE GUYS. N0T 0NLY THAT BUT I HAVE FREAKISH STRENGTH.
you americans do wrestling in the same style as the girls here lol. Greco romanian is the only style men should do..homo
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: pedro01 on October 14, 2013, 03:11:16 AM
Here is the real question. Wouldn't most fights end in death, if not for other people to break it up?

No - they would end in exhaustion.
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: Cleanest Natural on October 14, 2013, 03:55:59 AM
MY WRESTLING SKILLS ARE D-1  CALIBER. I'VE HANGED WITH 0LYMPIC MEDALISTS IN THE R00M BEF0RE. I PLACED IN CA STATE 0NE 0F THE T0UGHEST STATEES T0 PLACE. JUST NEVER WENT T0 WRESTLE IN D-1 BUT CAN HANG WITH THE GUYS. N0T 0NLY THAT BUT I HAVE FREAKISH STRENGTH.
You should take your skills to the UFC, make some money and buy a new keyboard assbruise  ;D
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: phreak on October 14, 2013, 04:38:22 AM
MY WRESTLING SKILLS ARE D-1  CALIBER. I'VE HANGED WITH 0LYMPIC MEDALISTS IN THE R00M BEF0RE. I PLACED IN CA STATE 0NE 0F THE T0UGHEST STATEES T0 PLACE. JUST NEVER WENT T0 WRESTLE IN D-1 BUT CAN HANG WITH THE GUYS. N0T 0NLY THAT BUT I HAVE FREAKISH STRENGTH.
I fully believe your wrestling skills are unsurpassed in the black anaconda division.
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: pedro01 on October 14, 2013, 06:22:56 AM
MY WRESTLING SKILLS ARE D-1  CALIBER. I'VE HANGED WITH 0LYMPIC MEDALISTS IN THE R00M BEF0RE. I PLACED IN CA STATE 0NE 0F THE T0UGHEST STATEES T0 PLACE. JUST NEVER WENT T0 WRESTLE IN D-1 BUT CAN HANG WITH THE GUYS. N0T 0NLY THAT BUT I HAVE FREAKISH STRENGTH.

Thank fuck they didn't enter you into the spelling bee by mistake.
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on October 14, 2013, 11:20:56 AM
MY WRESTLING SKILLS ARE D-1  CALIBER. I'VE HANGED WITH 0LYMPIC MEDALISTS IN THE R00M BEF0RE. I PLACED IN CA STATE 0NE 0F THE T0UGHEST STATEES T0 PLACE. JUST NEVER WENT T0 WRESTLE IN D-1 BUT CAN HANG WITH THE GUYS. N0T 0NLY THAT BUT I HAVE FREAKISH STRENGTH.

Assbruise wrestling with his fiercest opponent of them all in this thread: his sexuality.
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: Palpatine Q on October 14, 2013, 11:24:06 AM
AssBruise living up to his screen name in this thread  ;D
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: Natural Man on October 14, 2013, 12:17:08 PM
MY WRESTLING SKILLS ARE D-1  CALIBER. I'VE HANGED WITH 0LYMPIC MEDALISTS IN THE R00M BEF0RE. I PLACED IN CA STATE 0NE 0F THE T0UGHEST STATEES T0 PLACE. JUST NEVER WENT T0 WRESTLE IN D-1 BUT CAN HANG WITH THE GUYS. N0T 0NLY THAT BUT I HAVE FREAKISH STRENGTH.
How one can even confuse "0" key with "O" key tho, is what I really want to understand.
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: Shockwave on October 14, 2013, 12:18:03 PM
How one can even confuse "0" key with "O" key tho, is what I really want to understand.
His keyboard has been broken for like 10 years.

where have you been.

its assbruise, dont ask questions.
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: arce1988 on October 14, 2013, 12:57:29 PM
 :D ;D
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on October 14, 2013, 02:21:50 PM
The bouncer should have gotten him to sign a waiver before body slamming him
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: TrueGrit on October 14, 2013, 02:42:44 PM
http://tyneandwear.sky.com/news/article/85228/bodyslam-bouncer-is-revealed-as-fearsome-mixed-martial-arts


(http://online.l.staticlocal.com/lcms/images/2013/10/12/85230/default/620/350/1381593263.jpg)

The bouncer caught on camera bodyslamming a troublesome drinker onto the pavement can be revealed today as Lewis Barrow, a trained martial arts fighter.

It is understood Mr Barrow, 30, has been suspended as a doorman whilst his employer carries out an investigation into the incident.

Sky Tyne and Wear has discovered film footage of one of Barrow's fights, a ferocious title bout in which he is the one who ends up motionless on the ground after having his head pounded by opponent Stevie Lynch.

He caused furore when a video emerged of him picking up and slamming a man head-first to the ground outside Idols bar in Newcastle's Newgate Street.

There are gasps and cries of horror as the reveller - who has still not come forward to make a complaint to the police - hits the ground with a sickening thud.

Barrow's friends and associates say the incident was out of character and that he was attacked repeatedly by the man he briefly left unconscious on the floor.

 
Lewis Barrow's fight video

Yesterday, at his home in Washington, Mr Barrow said he was unable to comment without the permission of his employer.

The burly doorman's profile and picture appears on the MMA Total Combat website which details his career as a Mixed Martial Arts fighter. He also appears in a video which was posted on Youtube in 2007.

Barrow, who was representing Washington Vale Tudo Club, is beaten by Ulsterman Lynch who knocks him senseless with a series of forearm smashes to the head while pinning him to the canvass.  

Northumbria Police are continuing to investigate the incident in which the drinker was hurled to the floor. Mr Barrow attended a Newcastle police station voluntarily and was not arrested, although officers will continue to take statements.

It is thought CCTV cameras in the area may shed further light on the incident in its entirety.

The video was shot by Luke Taylor, a student at Newcastle University, who was on a night out with his friends when he stumbled across the confrontation outside Idols.
play video
 

Incident outside idols

He said: "I was walking down Newgate Street and saw this guy confronting the bouncer. He was well out of order and I could see it was about to kick off.

"I got my phone out and started to film what was happening.

"It was a shock to everyone when we heard the thud of him hitting the ground, it was was a sickening moment and he lay there very still.

"But within a few seconds he was up again, he managed to get up surprisingly quickly and he pulled off his shirt.

"He made another attempt at getting to the bouncer again but he was dragged away by his friends."
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: The Showstoppa on October 14, 2013, 02:45:01 PM
http://tyneandwear.sky.com/news/article/85228/bodyslam-bouncer-is-revealed-as-fearsome-mixed-martial-arts

The bouncer caught on camera bodyslamming a troublesome drinker onto the pavement can be revealed today as Lewis Barrow, a trained martial arts fighter.

It is understood Mr Barrow, 30, has been suspended as a doorman whilst his employer carries out an investigation into the incident.

Sky Tyne and Wear has discovered film footage of one of Barrow's fights, a ferocious title bout in which he is the one who ends up motionless on the ground after having his head pounded by opponent Stevie Lynch.

He caused furore when a video emerged of him picking up and slamming a man head-first to the ground outside Idols bar in Newcastle's Newgate Street.

There are gasps and cries of horror as the reveller - who has still not come forward to make a complaint to the police - hits the ground with a sickening thud.

Barrow's friends and associates say the incident was out of character and that he was attacked repeatedly by the man he briefly left unconscious on the floor.

 
Lewis Barrow's fight video

Yesterday, at his home in Washington, Mr Barrow said he was unable to comment without the permission of his employer.

The burly doorman's profile and picture appears on the MMA Total Combat website which details his career as a Mixed Martial Arts fighter. He also appears in a video which was posted on Youtube in 2007.

Barrow, who was representing Washington Vale Tudo Club, is beaten by Ulsterman Lynch who knocks him senseless with a series of forearm smashes to the head while pinning him to the canvass. 

Northumbria Police are continuing to investigate the incident in which the drinker was hurled to the floor. Mr Barrow attended a Newcastle police station voluntarily and was not arrested, although officers will continue to take statements.

It is thought CCTV cameras in the area may shed further light on the incident in its entirety.

The video was shot by Luke Taylor, a student at Newcastle University, who was on a night out with his friends when he stumbled across the confrontation outside Idols.
play video
 

Incident outside idols

He said: "I was walking down Newgate Street and saw this guy confronting the bouncer. He was well out of order and I could see it was about to kick off.

"I got my phone out and started to film what was happening.

"It was a shock to everyone when we heard the thud of him hitting the ground, it was was a sickening moment and he lay there very still.

"But within a few seconds he was up again, he managed to get up surprisingly quickly and he pulled off his shirt.

"He made another attempt at getting to the bouncer again but he was dragged away by his friends."

Good thing he never ran across me when I was running the bars.  I would have crippler cross faced him into buying a round for the bar.  And then urinated on his shoes. 
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: Cold on October 15, 2013, 10:08:15 PM
It is the bouncers job to keep cool when someone verbally confronts them.  This bouncer did not, threw the first punches, and clearly went after the drunk dude on the sidewalk.  No self defense at all.  The bouncer just lost it.  Slam dunk lawsuit and any jury would agree that the bouncer started the fight first.



The guy who got fucked up probably isn't aware there's a video out there that would net him a lot of money.

He's probably reeling with his tail between his legs and doesn't want the world to know he got beat up.
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: HavoX on October 16, 2013, 07:26:18 AM
Cops like bouncers. Keeps them from getting called to waste if time shit. The videographer states the man regained consciousness and resumed aggression.  All the bouncer has to say, and have one bouncer buddy say is: "he said he was going to his car to get a gun."

That said, too long of fight. Sweet slam.
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on October 16, 2013, 10:04:11 AM
This bouncer is going to jail and will be paying a lot of money to the guy, the guy was on the sidewalk not in the club and the bouncer attacked the guy first plus you can see from the video that he has martial arts training so his hands will be considered to be weapons under the law, man he is in some serious trouble.
 All he had to do once he clinched with the guy was to put him in a guillotine  or standing side choke and he could have put the guy to sleep with no harm done i always tell bouncers at the gym that brazilian jiu jitsu is the best art to train because you can put down a guy without getting into trouble with the law.


 I believe any type of choke " cutting the air" is considered attempt of murder by US law. or something like that. correct me if I"m wrong.
Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: Cold on October 16, 2013, 05:54:43 PM
He will be charged with assault with deadly weapon. The concrete is the deadly weapon. At least that's how it works in my county. They may possibly (actually very likely) throw in another enhancement as he's a trained fighter and his hands are weapons as well.

He better pray the other guy doesn't press charges. If I was the owner of that club, I'd hunt down this drunk and slip him 10k cash to avoid complication.

Title: Re: Bouncer uses MMA slam to deal with drunk
Post by: Sam on October 17, 2013, 01:36:24 AM
I thought he would be bigger  :D