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And farting like a rhinocerous
I got stuck in the other room with the shitty TV my farts are so bad. :P
Every five minutes....BWAAAARRRRPPP PP !!
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How much do you weigh and how much protein you taking in?
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Do the world a favor and get a probiotic....I invested in a real fancy one some time ago and farted like twice a week.
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Do the world a favor and get a probiotic....I invested in a real fancy one some time ago and farted like twice a week.
Bio gia?
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How much do you weigh and how much protein you taking in?
I'm 237 today...taking in at least 250. I'm off shit right now..so I do the "natural trainer" protocol...high protein..go heavy. It helps.
And doing a shitload of cardio.. I'm dead set on staying lean till my next cycle.
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Do the world a favor and get a probiotic....I invested in a real fancy one some time ago and farted like twice a week.
Brand ?
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I'm 237 today...taking in at least 250. I'm off shit right now..so I do the "natural trainer" protocol...high protein..go heavy. It helps.
And doing a shitload of cardio.. I'm dead set on staying lean till my next cycle.
why the break? cash flow or just recovery?
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Brand ?
They are really all about the same bro. Not like Omega 3s that you have to watch the snook, hook, and crook sales for.
Also, get some high purity ginger root, that will help the stomach absorb more as well. No sense in eating a shit load if you are not absorbing and utilizing it.
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why the break? cash flow or just recovery?
Health. Been on four months..summer's over. Its cool out now in AZ..gonna walk and bike more. Be more active and carrry less size. Not forever....two months .
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They are really all about the same bro. Not like Omega 3s that you have to watch the snook, hook, and crook sales for.
Also, get some high purity ginger root, that will help the stomach absorb more as well. No sense in eating a shit load if you are not absorbing and utilizing it.
Good advice...thx.
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And farting like a rhinocerous
I got stuck in the other room with the shitty TV my farts are so bad. :P
Every five minutes....BWAAAARRRRPPP PP !!
thats probably too much whey, why not have some soy?
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And farting like a rhinocerous
I got stuck in the other room with the shitty TV my farts are so bad. :P
Every five minutes....BWAAAARRRRPPP PP !!
Give you extra hp when you are biking. Call it your own "hybrid system".
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thats probably too much whey, why not have some soy?
I'm an egg and casein guy. Dont like whey.. it bloats me.
Soy raises estrogen Lucius M Falcontent
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I'm an egg and casein guy. Dont like whey.. it bloats me.
Soy raises estrogen Lucius M Falcontent
are u suggesting soy detains fat titonas?
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are u suggesting soy detains fat titonas?
It detains them from going away brother.
That's what all the research says
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If it's the same brand of protein you have always used, and you've never had this problem before, its just due to the fact that your off and the body isn't utilizing food as well. Tren has a nutrient portioning effects, and increases the absorption of vitamins, minerals,etc
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I'm 237 today...taking in at least 250. I'm off shit right now..so I do the "natural trainer" protocol...high protein..go heavy. It helps.
And doing a shitload of cardio.. I'm dead set on staying lean till my next cycle.
Maybe think about lowering the protein? Obviously you're having trouble digesting it. You've been around the block longer than I but I would think being natty you wouldn't need high protein for maintenance. For getting lean, yes, but maintenance, no. And lower than when on either way. Steroids increase protein synthesis which is when you could benefit from the higher protein. Being natty you dont need as much.
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If it's the same brand of protein you have always used, and you've never had this problem before, its just due to the fact that your off and the body isn't utilizing food as well. Tren has a nutrient portioning effects, and increases the absorption of vitamins, minerals,etc
Yeah I know brother... actually when I'm on tren I eat like a bird..it kills my appetite. I started this a few days ago...I should adjust.
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Maybe think about lowering the protein? Obviously you're having trouble digesting it. You've been around the block longer than I but I would think being natty you wouldn't need high protein for maintenance. For getting lean, yes, but maintenance, no. And with both lower than when on. Steroids increase protein synthesis which is when you could benefit from the higher protein. Being natty you dont need as much.
Good advice too... I'll play with it and figure it out.
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And farting like a rhinocerous
I got stuck in the other room with the shitty TV my farts are so bad. :P
Every five minutes....BWAAAARRRRPPP PP !!
Explain the problem.
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And farting like a rhinocerous
I got stuck in the other room with the shitty TV my farts are so bad. :P
Every five minutes....BWAAAARRRRPPP PP !!
Take with your shake:
Problem solved.
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Explain the problem.
Ha ha ha...not enough people to fart on. Both the woman and the child aren't down with being farted on....at all.
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I'm 237 today...taking in at least 250. I'm off shit right now..so I do the "natural trainer" protocol...high protein..go heavy. It helps.
And doing a shitload of cardio.. I'm dead set on staying lean till my next cycle.
So how much weight comes off you during your hiatus? Oh and I'm the same with the gas but not near the amount of protein.
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So how much weight comes off you during your hiatus? Oh and I'm the same with the gas but not near the amount of protein.
Hard to say. Sometimes I gain weight and lose cuts. Other times I lose size....it depends on the diet and training.... I'm looking to cut weight and really get cut this time...sev style.
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Soon you will get the girls.
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Hard to say. Sometimes I gain weight and lose cuts. Other times I lose size....it depends on the diet and training.... I'm looking to cut weight and really get cut this time...sev style.
What was your cycle like? How much test a wk? Etc..
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My 3 "take every day no matter what" supplements:
- Metamucil/soluble fiber
- a quality multivitamin/mineral
- probiotics
The only 3 supps that I consider mandatory.
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Read probiotics are bs. It's all about fecal transplants.
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Read probiotics are bs. It's all about fecal transplants.
Yes brother fecal transplants as well as urine therapy are common practice among many Getbiggers on the weekends. :-X
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My 3 "take every day no matter what" supplements:
- Metamucil/soluble fiber
- a quality multivitamin/mineral
- probiotics
The only 3 supps that I consider mandatory.
Its a double edged sword. The adult in me doesn't want to have gas, but the kid in me likes the immeasurable power of being able to fart at will..and smelly ones.
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Read probiotics are bs. It's all about fecal transplants.
Pffftttt.
real men just cut into their colon and extract the shit themselves.
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Yes brother fecal transplants as well as urine therapy are common practice among many Getbiggers on the weekends. :-X
No bullshit fecal transplants is where it's at. Now they're putting it in pill form. It makes sense. Takes some good shit to make good shit. Research that shit with google.
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Its a double edged sword. The adult in me doesn't want to have gas, but the kid in me likes the immeasurable power of being able to fart at will..and smelly ones.
The only time I fart now is my once weekly pizza cheat meal :(
I make sure to close up the windows in the house and really savor the experience.
It's the little things in life...
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No bullshit fecal transplants is where it's at. Now they're putting it in pill form. It makes sense. Takes some good shit to make good shit. Research that shit with google.
(http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p569/Vincebertolini/87fd9eb1e805198fcf3174a997fe5c09.jpg)
???
(http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p569/Vincebertolini/621583f747b8b340a46f9fbc3340abd7.jpg)
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I was in Circle K today and I crop dusted the entire store with fart molecules. Went up and down every aisle.
Then I'm on line and I go "God Damn that's nasty." And start talking to this dude next to me...and he's like "yeah"....and I'm farting right on him..hahahaaa
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protien warms up the metabolism up to a point
i notice this today i was kinda chilly around 7 pm then i started eating protien , felt much better, sure i couldve double the dose * i had 3 shakes back to back) i couldve drank 6 but i think that wouldve just made me fart
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They are really all about the same bro. Not like Omega 3s that you have to watch the snook, hook, and crook sales for.
Also, get some high purity ginger root, that will help the stomach absorb more as well. No sense in eating a shit load if you are not absorbing and utilizing it.
You've got it backwards.....95% of fish oil comes from one distributor, Ocean Nutrition. Check the back of your fish oil container. Doesn't really matter who you get it from.
Probiotics do matter, to a degree. The lower end ones are mostly the same. But do yourself a favor and try out Natren Healthy Trinity. Buy it direct from the manufacturer, don't cheap out.... they'll ship it to you cold, next-day air. Great blend of probiotics but more importantly, the delivery system ensures it makes it deep into your gut.
Well worth the extra money..... it's the only probiotic that i noticed a difference with. Zero gas, even from drinking egg whites. Smaller bowl movements too, which i cant help but think that it means I'm assimilating more food.
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Natural Greek Yogurt is high in probiotics as well. Combine that along with some protein powder (I used Beverly's Muscle Provider) and you get the probiotics and extra protein in the form of a pudding dessert. Addictive as hell.
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all that yogurt probiotics is proably bullshit,
there gets to be a point after a couple yogurts that if you have that third yogurt it seems like a waste of food
if groink took some kelp with selenium he would be a juggernaut full of too much energy
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Natural Greek Yogurt is high in probiotics as well. Combine that along with some protein powder (I used Beverly's Muscle Provider) and you get the probiotics and extra protein in the form of a pudding dessert. Addictive as hell.
Yes. I'm lactose intolerant. Even a little lactose can upset my stomach. However, Greek yogurt I can eat no problem.
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all that yogurt probiotics is proably bullshit,
there gets to be a point after a couple yogurts that if you have that third yogurt it seems like a waste of food
if groink took some kelp with selenium he would be a juggernaut full of too much energy
Do you know how yogurt becomes yogurt? Bacteria.
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Do you know how yogurt becomes yogurt? Bacteria.
right im just saying i dont feel that superior when eating yogurt
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You've got it backwards.....95% of fish oil comes from one distributor, Ocean Nutrition. Check the back of your fish oil container. Doesn't really matter who you get it from.
Probiotics do matter, to a degree. The lower end ones are mostly the same. But do yourself a favor and try out Natren Healthy Trinity. Buy it direct from the manufacturer, don't cheap out.... they'll ship it to you cold, next-day air. Great blend of probiotics but more importantly, the delivery system ensures it makes it deep into your gut.
Well worth the extra money..... it's the only probiotic that i noticed a difference with. Zero gas, even from drinking egg whites. Smaller bowl movements too, which i cant help but think that it means I'm assimilating more food.
Strong knowledge here by proudvirgin.
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right im just saying i dont feel that superior when eating yogurt
Have you tried greek yogurt? It's different than regular yogurt.
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Strong knowledge here by proudvirgin.
Are you saying Don't fart on him ?
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Have you tried greek yogurt? It's different than regular yogurt.
yes it tastes great but no superior feeling effects were noticed
kelp and selenium produce superior feeling effect but im scared to up the dose
same with protien powders. you really notice how much they help only when you stop takeing them.
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yes it tastes great but no superior feeling effects were noticed
kelp and selenium produce superior feeling effect but im scared to up the dose
same with protien powders. you really notice how much they help only when you stop takeing them.
I never tried kelp.
But protein has the same effect on me..I feel solid and powerful. I eat too much carbs and I feel like a blob of shit
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Probiotics do matter, to a degree. The lower end ones are mostly the same. But do yourself a favor and try out Natren Healthy Trinity. Buy it direct from the manufacturer, don't cheap out.... they'll ship it to you cold, next-day air. Great blend of probiotics but more importantly, the delivery system ensures it makes it deep into your gut.
Well worth the extra money..... it's the only probiotic that i noticed a difference with. Zero gas, even from drinking egg whites. Smaller bowl movements too, which i cant help but think that it means I'm assimilating more food.
OR
You could just find a woman with a good digestive system and go to town on that ass.
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I never tried kelp.
But protein has the same effect on me..I feel solid and powerful. I eat too much carbs and I feel like a blob of shit
man be careful with kelp its like snorting a line of coke or hitting the crack pipe
it may or may not hit you like that. only take one pill on the first day and 2 the next
kelp with selenium is a synergistic effect
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I never tried kelp.
But protein has the same effect on me..I feel solid and powerful. I eat too much carbs and I feel like a blob of shit
thats how I am as well... high protein diet makes me feel solid.... I have to be very careful with carbs or I feel like im in a coma and I instantly gain 10 lbs of water.
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thats how I am as well... high protein diet makes me feel solid.... I have to be very careful with carbs or I feel like im in a coma and I instantly gain 10 lbs of water.
Yup.
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Protein is overrated you can't assimilate but about 25 grams at a time and you get gas and piss out some expensive piss.
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right im just saying i dont feel that superior when eating yogurt
Try not keeping your pinkie up the whole time then maybe?
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Protein is overrated you can't assimilate but about 25 grams at a time and you get gas and piss out some expensive piss.
show me one 300lb plus bodybuilder who didn't have to boatload the protein to get to freak sizeyou cant show me one. Coleman,Yates,Francois. all those guys were eating a massive amount of protein. Not enough drugs is very rarely someone's downfall, its usually lack of food. Groink Im like you no appetite on tren, I struggle to eat 2500 calories per day and as we know for a 200lb plus guy that just doesn't cut it.
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show me one 300lb plus bodybuilder who didn't have to boatload the protein to get to freak sizeyou cant show me one. Coleman,Yates,Francois. all those guys were eating a massive amount of protein. Not enough drugs is very rarely someone's downfall, its usually lack of food. Groink Im like you no appetite on tren, I struggle to eat 2500 calories per day and as we know for a 200lb plus guy that just doesn't cut it.
Your former Guru for one:
Supposedly Paul Dillet did not require massive amounts of protein either, you need to become more of a student of the game, rather than a parrot
RIP Nasser
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Another from our very own Bluto archives:
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Im the same way. I eat a bunch of carbs I feel weak and tired, high protein no carbs I feel great.
BUT if I take a shot of insulin prior to eating the carbs, I feel like a million bucks.
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In my experience its true that high protein isn't necessary to build muscle on a bulk... overall calories matter more.
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It seems to be a grend, atleast here in sweden, with serious bodybuilders that they have lovered the crqzy amount of protein alot and raised the carbs. Going from likr 450gram to 250grans of protein.
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You came off completely?
How do your nuts recover at your age?
Wouldn't you feel like shit waiting for natural test to recover?
Or on HRT dose of test?
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Personally, I would eat like this if I were you ..
I am not a proponent of eating a lot of protein. I would eat 2-4 times a day (a quantity split into 2-4 meals). Lean meats, meaning red meat (buffalo, argentine 2%, fillet mignon, I used to like brisket, etc), raw salmon, raw tuna, chicken and turkey breast. Get brocolly and especially asparagus with the occasional assortment of bitter greens.
IF you choose to eat more than 1 lb of meat daily, before your meal, cut a thin cross section slice from a ginger root and squeeze 1/4 of a lemon's juice on it (it'll absorb most of it). Chew and swallow that first for digestive purposes.
Add some good fats (not a lot) .. I use daily 1 teaspoon organic peanut butter, 1/2 an avocado and 15 raw almonds
Carbs? less than 100g daily. I prefer cleansing with zero carbs and maybe you could try that if you never experienced it before. Once you get into keto state after a week or so, it is smooth sailing. Worth the effort to try it out in my oppinion especially for the look you are trying to achieve.
Get lean off drugs, I cannot describe you how your body will react to tren and cutters once you start a cycle at 8% bodyfat or less .. with your genetics even at 48-49 it'll change you FAST.
One thing I would like to see with your physique to make it trully impressive .. contact Disgusted and use his services to get the midsection you want. He can do wonders. I highly recommend him to both competitors and all other bodybuilding enthusiasts. He can take your physique and turn it into one of the top 49 yo in US I kid you not.
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Personally, I would eat like this if I were you ..
I am not a proponent of eating a lot of protein. I would eat 2-4 times a day (a quantity split into 2-4 meals). Lean meats, meaning red meat (buffalo, argentine 2%, fillet mignon, I used to like brisket, etc), raw salmon, raw tuna, chicken and turkey breast. Get brocolly and especially asparagus with the occasional assortment of bitter greens.
IF you choose to eat more than 1 lb of meat daily, before your meal, cut a thin cross section slice from a ginger root and squeeze 1/4 of a lemon's juice on it (it'll absorb most of it). Chew and swallow that first for digestive purposes.
Add some good fats (not a lot) .. I use daily 1 teaspoon organic peanut butter, 1/2 an avocado and 15 raw almonds
Carbs? less than 100g daily. I prefer cleansing with zero carbs and maybe you could try that if you never experienced it before. Once you get into keto state after a week or so, it is smooth sailing. Worth the effort to try it out in my oppinion especially for the look you are trying to achieve.
Get lean off drugs, I cannot describe you how your body will react to tren and cutters once you start a cycle at 8% bodyfat or less .. with your genetics even at 48-49 it'll change you FAST.
One thing I would like to see with your physique to make it trully impressive .. contact Disgusted and use his services to get the midsection you want. He can do wonders. I highly recommend him to both competitors and all other bodybuilding enthusiasts. He can take your physique and turn it into one of the top 49 yo in US I kid you not.
Curious why you include peanut butter under "healthy fats." PB is delicious but it's like the only nut source that is primarily saturated fats and void of the "good" unsaturated fats. Basically any other type of nut butter blows it away from a nutritional standpoint. I always use PB when dieting as well but its as a neutral anti-catabolic Calorie source, NOT as something to help burn fat like something with more Omega-3's would.
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Curious why you include peanut butter under "healthy fats." PB is delicious but it's like the only nut source that is primarily saturated fats and void of the "good" unsaturated fats. Basically any other type of nut butter blows it away from a nutritional standpoint. I always use PB when dieting as well but its as a neutral anti-catabolic Calorie source, NOT as something to help burn fat like something with more Omega-3's would.
So-called 'natural' peanut butter has a large dose of monounsaturated fat per serving and a smidgen of polyunsaturated fat as well, both significantly higher than the saturated fat content. I don't know where your broscientific spiel is coming from in this instance, but it's rather offbase.
Here's the natural PB I always used to have:
http://www.smuckers.com/products/peanut-butter/natural/natural-creamy-peanut-butter-65
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So-called 'natural' peanut butter has a large dose of monounsaturated fat per serving and a smidgen of polyunsaturated fat as well, both significantly higher than the saturated fat content. I don't know where your broscientific spiel is coming from in this instance, but it's rather offbase.
Here's the natural PB I always used to have:
http://www.smuckers.com/products/peanut-butter/natural/natural-creamy-peanut-butter-65
Why did I think regular PB was high sat fat ??? My mistake, you're right...PB just has a higher ratio of sat fat: unsat fat than other options, but still a good amount of "good fats."
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let's keep the nutritional vibe going. I'm a firm believer of positive reinforcement... If you're tHinKing about eating like crap for the day and then you read this thread, it could change your mind.
For Omega 3s I use flax seed. Peanut butter is delicious but has a ton of calories. I use it sparingly.
Morning protein shake ;
8oz almond milk
8oz ice cubes
1/2 banana
1cup baby spinach
1tablespoon flax seed
2 scoops egg white protein. (40g)
I'll eat carbs on two occasions, once in the AM and then a couple of hours before training....overall they are kept low
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Personally, I would eat like this if I were you ..
I am not a proponent of eating a lot of protein. I would eat 2-4 times a day (a quantity split into 2-4 meals). Lean meats, meaning red meat (buffalo, argentine 2%, fillet mignon, I used to like brisket, etc), raw salmon, raw tuna, chicken and turkey breast. Get brocolly and especially asparagus with the occasional assortment of bitter greens.
IF you choose to eat more than 1 lb of meat daily, before your meal, cut a thin cross section slice from a ginger root and squeeze 1/4 of a lemon's juice on it (it'll absorb most of it). Chew and swallow that first for digestive purposes.
Add some good fats (not a lot) .. I use daily 1 teaspoon organic peanut butter, 1/2 an avocado and 15 raw almonds
Carbs? less than 100g daily. I prefer cleansing with zero carbs and maybe you could try that if you never experienced it before. Once you get into keto state after a week or so, it is smooth sailing. Worth the effort to try it out in my oppinion especially for the look you are trying to achieve.
Get lean off drugs, I cannot describe you how your body will react to tren and cutters once you start a cycle at 8% bodyfat or less .. with your genetics even at 48-49 it'll change you FAST.
One thing I would like to see with your physique to make it trully impressive .. contact Disgusted and use his services to get the midsection you want. He can do wonders. I highly recommend him to both competitors and all other bodybuilding enthusiasts. He can take your physique and turn it into one of the top 49 yo in US I kid you not.
Very solid diet. I also tend to stay away from dairy and fruit when I'm trying to get into ketosis unless I want to spike insulin(post workout or morning). I also tend to crush coffee(3 cups, black) when I'm in ketosis for the extra pick me up and to rev up my metabolism.
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Why did I think regular PB was high sat fat ??? My mistake, you're right...PB just has a higher ratio of sat fat: unsat fat than other options, but still a good amount of "good fats."
What is your preferred nut butter (no homo)?
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Protein is overrated you can't assimilate but about 25 grams at a time and you get gas and piss out some expensive piss.
Is this confirmed or just one of the holdover myths from the 90s?
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I eat maybe 100 g of protein a day tops for the last year or so (probably quite a bit less than that on average), down from 200-300 and have lost very little muscle, although I was never that big to begin with (maybe 185 tops at just under 6'0").
If you are trying to gain muscle then perhaps more is needed though.
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Is this confirmed or just one of the holdover myths from the 90s?
I look at anything that uses hard numbers like that with a skeptical eye. Everyone is different. I'm around 240 and carry a lot of muscle. ...I can assimilate more than a 195 pound person.
Also high protein diet is about your food sources. Eating protein instead of carbs and fats...for the very reason that its not as easily assimilated.
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What kind of egg white protein do you use? I've tried like 2-3 and they were all unpalatable
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I don't get gas from protein unless I eat too many eggs. No more powders...
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What kind of egg white protein do you use? I've tried like 2-3 and they were all unpalatable
I get mine from a guy that sells supplements.. he gets tons of free shit and gives it to his friends..so it varies. Taste I could care less about.
I buy this from him at a nice discount. Tastes great.
Also best preworkout...QUICKFIRE. makes you feel like a million bucks.
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I look at anything that uses hard numbers like that with a skeptical eye. Everyone is different. I'm around 240 and carry a lot of muscle. ...I can assimilate more than a 195 pound person.
Also high protein diet is about your food sources. Eating protein instead of carbs and fats...for the very reason that its not as easily assimilated.
Just had the Groink breakfast but used Chia seeds instead of flax + 2 eggland's best eggs and a TBSP of guacamole. Going to try your carb theory - it makes sense....
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Jay Robb looks a bit like a less creepy Will Brink.
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Jay Robb looks a bit like a less creepy Will Brink.
I feel like a penis buying this guy's protein, but I have to admit it's a good product and it tastes great.
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There are a lot of knuckleheads in this thread. Amazing crap believed by just about everyone. Has anyone here actually read a text book in nutrition? 50 grams tops for hypertrophy. The rest is unethically wasting protein that others should be eating.
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There are a lot of knuckleheads in this thread. Amazing crap believed by just about everyone. Has anyone here actually read a text book in nutrition? 50 grams tops for hypertrophy. The rest is unethically wasting protein that others should be eating.
Shut up fgt. No one cares about your opinion. Shouldnt you be building some sort of leg supination space machine?
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Hydrolysates are easy on the stomach. Casein and whey hydrolysates, collagen hydro (missing some aminos in adequate quantities and no tryptophan but can be a decent way to add extra protein... not as the sole protein supplemen). Free form EAA mixes are easy on the tomach too IME.
Brian Batcheldor says egg yolk hydrolysate is the best animal protein but I haven't seen this available anywhere.
There are a lot of knuckleheads in this thread. Amazing crap believed by just about everyone. Has anyone here actually read a text book in nutrition? 50 grams tops for hypertrophy. The rest is unethically wasting protein that others should be eating.
LOL, what a retard you are. Yes there is research and NONE of it supports you. That's not even RDA for an average man who does NOT train. WTF. ??? ::)
Cite your sources. You make this claim, now back it up. Are you full of shit or can you back up your shit? I know you can't, just like you can't back up your "scientific" training theories. Prove us wrong. ;)
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What is your preferred nut butter (no homo)?
:D
1- Macadamia Nut Butter = mouthgasm.
2- Next is Almond Butter.
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Hydrolysates are easy on the stomach. Casein and whey hydrolysates, collagen hydro (missing some aminos in adequate quantities and no tryptophan but can be a decent way to add extra protein... not as the sole protein supplemen). Free form EAA mixes are easy on the tomach too IME.
Brian Batcheldor says egg yolk hydrolysate is the best animal protein but I haven't seen this available anywhere.
LOL, what a retard you are. Yes there is research and NONE of it supports you. That's not even RDA for an average man who does NOT train. WTF. ??? ::)
Cite your sources. You make this claim, now back it up. Are you full of shit or can you back up your shit? I know you can't, just like you can't back up your "scientific" training theories. Prove us wrong. ;)
Congratulations. QED.
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And now a list of all the biggest and best Bodybuilders who built their physiques on less than 50g protein a day:
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And now a list of all the biggest and best Bodybuilders who built their physiques on less than 50g protein a day:
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Probably could add Jocyln pellettier or whatever the fuck to that list.
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There are a lot of knuckleheads in this thread. Amazing crap believed by just about everyone. Has anyone here actually read a text book in nutrition? 50 grams tops for hypertrophy. The rest is unethically wasting protein that others should be eating.
You've said some dumb shit in your day.......but this spew of verbal diarrhea takes the cake.
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Congratulations. QED.
why dont you just answer his question. Show us a textbook that supports that or scientific report.
Avoiding the question will only make you look total clueless about nutrition
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Congratulations. QED.
The RDA is .8 grams per kg of bodyweight if I'm not mistaken. That would be 56 grams for a 70kg (154lbs) person and 80 grams for a 100kg (220lbs) person. What textbook suggests protein requirements go down when you are involved in strenuous exercise and trying to increase lbm?
There is no textbook or scientific data that supports your supposed "scientific" recommendation. It would be easy enough to cite your sources, but like always you won't do it.
Who's the knucklehead?
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Who here actually knows the minimum protein required to grow his body? Answer, probably very few simply because of what so many believe. What a waste of money. Yes, silly knuckleheads who lift weights and read comic books.
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The RDA is .8 grams per kg of bodyweight if I'm not mistaken. That would be 56 grams for a 70kg (154lbs) person and 80 grams for a 100kg (220lbs) person. What textbook suggests protein requirements go down when you are involved in strenuous exercise and trying to increase lbm?
There is no textbook or scientific data that supports your supposed "scientific" recommendation. It would be easy enough to cite your sources, but like always you won't do it.
Who's the knucklehead?
I swear Basile is losing his fucking mind.
dude goes from denigrating Arnold for posing his arm (when he looks 10000x better than Vince) to that completely moronic claim.
dude needs to be put out of his misery.
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Who here actually knows the minimum protein required to grow his body? Answer, probably very few simply because of what so many believe. What a waste of money. Yes, silly knuckleheads who lift weights and read comic books.
The Australian government says you (male, age >70) should eat 81 grams of protein a day.
http://www.nrv.gov.au/nutrients/protein.htm
Also knuckleheads who read comic books?
I swear Basile is losing his fucking mind.
dude goes from denigrating Arnold for posing his arm (when he looks 10000x better than Vince) to that completely moronic claim.
dude needs to be put out of his misery.
He was always like this. :D
Probably why he's in love with Goodrum, they're so alike.
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I get mine from a guy that sells supplements.. he gets tons of free shit and gives it to his friends..so it varies. Taste I could care less about.
I buy this from him at a nice discount. Tastes great.
Also best preworkout...QUICKFIRE. makes you feel like a million bucks.
Looks like grade A alpha powder!
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Who here actually knows the minimum protein required to grow his body? Answer, probably very few simply because of what so many believe. What a waste of money. Yes, silly knuckleheads who lift weights and read comic books.
so you cant answer the question
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so you cant answer the question
don't you just love the Internet? People attack you, and when you stick their argument up their ass... They start running around in circles like imbeciles
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so you cant answer the question
Mensa Bob is a good poster and defends us against weirdos.
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Vince Imbasile :D
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Vince Imbasile :D
Ha ha ha
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Vince Imbasile :D
Seriously.
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Mensa Bob is a good poster and defends us against weirdos.
haha yes im your knight in shining armor
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haha yes im your knight in shining armor
and your a white knight, which is even better @ryan man 8)
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and your a white knight, which is even better @ryan man 8)
You ever look into that Mithras stuff ?
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and your a white knight, which is even better @ryan man 8)
haha yes
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You ever look into that Mithras stuff ?
not yet, what is it exactly?
oral tren?
i'm thinking trying a dbol+var stack as this bill roberts fella says it's a good oral stack since var is "class 1" and dbol is "class 2"
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not yet, what is it exactly?
oral tren?
i'm thinking trying a dbol+var stack as this bill roberts fella says it's a good oral stack since var is "class 1" and dbol is "class 2"
Look it up jackass...LOL.
supposedly its like Superdrol/tren hybrid....very potent.
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Look it up jackass...LOL.
supposedly its like Superdrol/tren hybrid....very potent.
dude needs to go have his doc teach him to inject and stop wasting time with his oral only bullshit.
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Look it up jackass...LOL.
supposedly its like Superdrol/tren hybrid....very potent.
;D
but the thing is, superdrol didn't do much for me
i'm wondering if certain fellas respond better to certain compounds? maybe van or disgusted would know, coz i'm fucking clueless and still basically a newbie
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;D
but the thing is, superdrol didn't do much for me
i'm wondering if certain fellas respond better to certain compounds? maybe van or disgusted would know, coz i'm fucking clueless and still basically a newbie
of courae some people . respond differently to different compounds.
I didnt see shit from dbol or deca, but im seeing amazing results from tiny amounts of Treb Ace.
you need to stop pussyfooting around and do it, youre using a lot of toxic and inefficient compounds because youre scared of injecting.
you are actually doing your body more harm than if you just got over it.
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;D
but the thing is, superdrol didn't do much for me
i'm wondering if certain fellas respond better to certain compounds? maybe van or disgusted would know, coz i'm fucking clueless and still basically a newbie
I say 5000 mg a day of Dbol, 20000 cc's of injectable's and 4 winstrol tablets everyday to take you to Mr O to come in 20th place.
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I say 5000 mg a day of Dbol, 20000 cc's of injectable's and 4 winstrol tablets everyday to take you to Mr O to come in 20th place.
lol
fuck the mr. ho man (godzilla thighs and a bloated barrel preggo belly ain't my thing)
classic bodybuilding might be worth a shot though
it has a weight limit based on height and for me max stage weight would be 86 kg, right now i'm a massive 75.5 kg lol
of course a stage weight of 86 kg (cut and dry) is a big jump from 75.5 kg @ 8-9%
what was your stage weight when you competed, and how tall are you?
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lol
fuck the mr. ho man (godzilla thighs and a bloated barrel preggo belly ain't my thing)
classic bodybuilding might be worth a shot though
it has a weight limit based on height and for me max stage weight would be 86 kg, right now i'm a massive 75.5 kg lol
of course a stage weight of 86 kg (cut and dry) is a big jump from 75.5 kg @ 8-9%
what was your stage weight when you competed, and how tall are you?
I don't now the weight I was in heavyweights if you dont look worth a shit it doesnt matter, I am 6'2" my doctor's nurse told me before I started looking up her dress.
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Organic.peanut butter is 100% raw peanuts ...the supermarket verion is roasted peanuts. Many other "natural" brands are.not 100% raw peanuts. Easily to.recognize it.due to.oil on.top
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;D
but the thing is, superdrol didn't do much for me
i'm wondering if certain fellas respond better to certain compounds? maybe van or disgusted would know, coz i'm fucking clueless and still basically a newbie
I never did Superdrol and don't know anyone else who did either, so I don't know how effective it is from personal experience. But everyone on the boards says it's very strong.
Never saw anyone not respond to dbol. If they didn't respond very well to dbol they didn't respond to anything else either. Very very effective and fast acting compound. Personally, 50mg of dbol (350mg/week) is as good or better than 2 grams of test or more. It's just very potent per mg.
I've done dbol with var and I liked it. But that "class" theory of Roberts' is BS... that stack works because you are taking in more steroids, not because dbol works through some non-receptor pathway and var does.
When you've done test, tren and dbol, preferably stacked the three, you have basically seen what steroids will do for you. That stack will pretty much max you out at around 1500mg total per week. If that doesn't work nothing's going to work. To make major gains after that you have to do gh and insulin.
I know someone with pretty fair genetics who is doing classic bb for his first show soon (84kg class). From what I saw last I seen him, he will easily make weight. If shredded a few kg under. He's done test, tren, dbol, anadrol, insulin, gh, etc. Even classic bb is pretty damn big if shredded at weight limit and takes a good amounts of pharmaceuticals for most.
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I never did Superdrol and don't know anyone else who did either, so I don't know how effective it is from personal experience. But everyone on the boards says it's very strong.
Never saw anyone not respond to dbol. If they didn't respond very well to dbol they didn't respond to anything else either. Very very effective and fast acting compound. Personally, 50mg of dbol (350mg/week) is as good or better than 2 grams of test or more. It's just very potent per mg.
I've done dbol with var and I liked it. But that "class" theory of Roberts' is BS... that stack works because you are taking in more steroids, not because dbol works through some non-receptor pathway and var does.
When you've done test, tren and dbol, preferably stacked the three, you have basically seen what steroids will do for you. That stack will pretty much max you out at around 1500mg total per week. If that doesn't work nothing's going to work. To make major gains after that you have to do gh and insulin.
I know someone with pretty fair genetics who is doing classic bb for his first show soon (84kg class). From what I saw last I seen him, he will easily make weight. If shredded a few kg under. He's done test, tren, dbol, anadrol, insulin, gh, etc. Even classic bb is pretty damn big if shredded at weight limit and takes a good amounts of pharmaceuticals for most.
read the dudes threads on the steroid board...
he wont inject, wont use test because its a bloater (but dbol isnt), also says doesnt need it because 70s BBs didnt use it.
hes a wreck.
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read the dudes threads on the steroid board...
he wont inject, wont use test because its a bloater (but dbol isnt), also says doesnt need it because 70s BBs didnt use it.
hes a wreck.
Well, needle phobia is a pretty big obstacle for some. Some tough guys almost faint at the sight of a needle. It's not rational but phobias usually aren't. :D My advice to dj is to just let someone jab you once, then do it once yourself. After that it's no big deal usually even if they don't exactly enjoy it. I've heard many stories of newbies sitting and shaking and sweating looking at the needle for half an hour before injecting for the first time. :D
He doesn't necessarily need test but it's good for adding milligrams without toxing out the body. After all, it's natural. :D
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Groink and dj181 getting along
Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together
Mass hysteria
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Gotta love the resident gurus who think they are experts. This thread was about protein requirement and now the discussion is about drugs. You guys have lost your minds. Lunatics all.
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Probably why he's in love with Goodrum, they're so alike.
Isn't that the truth.
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Gotta love the resident gurus who think they are experts. This thread was about protein requirement and now the discussion is about drugs. You guys have lost your minds. Lunatics all.
You're the only one here who thinks he's an expert, you constantly infer that you're the only one here who deserves to call himself such. Yet you refuse back up your "scientific" claims.
Please tell me why your government's protein intake recommendations are wrong. Tell me which "textbook" says a bodybuilder, or even just the average couch potato, should eat less than 50 grams of protein a day.
Who here said they were an expert... except you? Why do you refuse to share your knowledge? WTF is wrong with you?
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Hazel nut butter.....I like to cover myself in it and let Mishka lick it off.... :o ;D
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Listen to Van Bilderass. He postures as an expert by criticizing others. What does he really know? That is the question. You guys should be ashamed of yourselves giving out that dangerous drug advice.
What I claim can be found in textbooks written for graduate students in nutrition. The protein requirement for athletes has always been overstated. Maybe bodybuilders should drink more water because
that is what muscles are mostly made of. All this bunk about protein is total bullshit and a disgrace to the magazines and everyone involved.
I don't recognize the nutrition standards of the Australian government or any other government.
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Listen to Van Bilderass. He postures as an expert by criticizing others. What does he really know? That is the question. You guys should be ashamed of yourselves giving out that dangerous drug advice.
What I claim can be found in textbooks written for graduate students in nutrition. The protein requirement for athletes has always been overstated. Maybe bodybuilders should drink more water because
that is what muscles are mostly made of. All this bunk about protein is total bullshit and a disgrace to the magazines and everyone involved.
I don't recognize the nutrition standards of the Australian government or any other government.
So cite your references, should be easy. Cite a currently used textbook (so the data it bases its recommendations on is current). Recommendations evolve as more and more research is done. You don't think the government bases its recommendations on scientific data and that the universities use completely different data in their textbooks? You write a lot of shit but always refuse to back it up. Please, just for once, give me something, show me what you base your claims on. Just give me the name of the textbook and I will look it up myself.
I guess you wouldn't consider the WHO's recommendations as scientific either? They basically arrive at 0.83g/kg/day.
http://whqlibdoc.who.int/trs/who_trs_935_eng.pdf
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I don't have my textbook on nutrition as I gave it to my son and it was lost or borrowed. However, I agree with Mike Mentzer about the protein requirement.
http://www.highintensity.net/Forums/ViewTopic.asp?topic_id=1235
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I don't have my textbook on nutrition as I gave it to my son and it was lost or borrowed. However, I agree with Mike Mentzer about the protein requirement.
http://www.highintensity.net/Forums/ViewTopic.asp?topic_id=1235
wow, Mike Mentzer, you sure proved how wrong everyone is.
jesis christ. Given an opportunity to back up your bullshit and your post a link to Mentzer the Meth addict.
way to go, I have about as much credibility. After all, ive done meth. ::)
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I don't have my textbook on nutrition as I gave it to my son and it was lost or borrowed. However, I agree with Mike Mentzer about the protein requirement.
http://www.highintensity.net/Forums/ViewTopic.asp?topic_id=1235
you realize he was full of shit right?
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When you see the blue text it means just keep going to the next post.
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you realize he was full of shit right?
Among other things.
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When you see the blue text it means just keep going to the next post.
when you see blue you know its a disclaimer that youre reading the ramblings of someone who has completely lost touch with reality.
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Listen to Van Bilderass. He postures as an expert by criticizing others. What does he really know? That is the question. You guys should be ashamed of yourselves giving out that dangerous drug advice.
What I claim can be found in textbooks written for graduate students in nutrition. The protein requirement for athletes has always been overstated. Maybe bodybuilders should drink more water because
that is what muscles are mostly made of. All this bunk about protein is total bullshit and a disgrace to the magazines and everyone involved.
I don't recognize the nutrition standards of the Australian government or any other government.
Yes water is the key to unlocking potential muscle growth.
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Yes water is the key to unlocking potential muscle growth.
im going to start replacing my macros with water. Protein, fat, who needs em? Muscle.is made of water, after all!!! Here I come 5 gallons a day, im gonna get hyyugggeee!
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im going to start replacing my macros with water. Protein, fat, who needs em? Muscle.is made of water, after all!!! Here I come 5 gallons a day, im gonna get hyyugggeee!
The Basille Principles 101
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don't it's useless.
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The Basile Principles 101
Typical musclehead. Can you detect irony and facetiousness when it is obvious? 2/3 of a muscle cell is H2O. Does that mean a bodybuilder should up the water intake?
Bodybuilders are so thick they wouldn't know the truth is it hit them in the face.
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Typical musclehead. Can you detect irony and facetiousness when it is obvious? 2/3 of a muscle cell is H2O. Does that mean a bodybuilder should up the water intake?
Bodybuilders are so thick they wouldn't know the truth is it hit them in the face.
You are no gentleman, Vince Gaysile.
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LOL. What simpletons. Do any of you think you can dismiss someone like me in person? Not in your lifetime. On the net you hide behind anonymity and call someone who betters you in a discussion all manner of names. Typical Getbig heroes. If your 'mates' here laugh then you feel supported and chuckle with glee. People have tried every putdown that means anything and I am still here. Try refuting my theories instead. Well, most here are not equipped to do that so resort to using ridicule. Those strategies say much more about you than me.
I am not an homosexual but why is that a putdown on Getbig? Well, because the guys here are insecure so they fear that label.
Taunts about being stupid don't work, either. That stooge, Bob Chick, tried that many times but failed. It really is sad to think that the so many guys who lift weights are thickheads. Sad but true, nevertheless.
So what is left? Oh, yes, I must be old and senile. Yeah, that is it. I must have forgetten everything I have learned.
The last resort is to label someone a pedo. That really is pathetic and goes against the spirit of both Getbig and the internet. The moderators don't remove most of that garbage so why is that?
Since these labels and insult don't work what then?
Oh, yes, keep taking supplements because that is what the magazines and champs tell you. Use free weights. That's it. If you don't get big then use drugs. If even the drugs fail then just come to Getbig and insult everyone. Guaranteed
fun for everyone.
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Vince, you used to be respectable. And I really mean that. What happened?
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you realize he was full of shit right?
this will come as a shock to many many others .. "oh btw, your "idol" mentzer was a druggie who ranted about stuff to set himself apart and do not expect a balanced smart aproach from an unbalanced individual".
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LOL. What simpletons. Do any of you think you can dismiss someone like me in person? Not in your lifetime. On the net you hide behind anonymity and call someone who betters you in a discussion all manner of names. Typical Getbig heroes. If your 'mates' here laugh then you feel supported and chuckle with glee. People have tried every putdown that means anything and I am still here. Try refuting my theories instead. Well, most here are not equipped to do that so resort to using ridicule. Those strategies say much more about you than me.
I am not an homosexual but why is that a putdown on Getbig? Well, because the guys here are insecure so they fear that label.
Taunts about being stupid don't work, either. That stooge, Bob Chick, tried that many times but failed. It really is sad to think that the so many guys who lift weights are thickheads. Sad but true, nevertheless.
So what is left? Oh, yes, I must be old and senile. Yeah, that is it. I must have forgetten everything I have learned.
The last resort is to label someone a pedo. That really is pathetic and goes against the spirit of both Getbig and the internet. The moderators don't remove most of that garbage so why is that?
Since these labels and insult don't work what then?
Oh, yes, keep taking supplements because that is what the magazines and champs tell you. Use free weights. That's it. If you don't get big then use drugs. If even the drugs fail then just come to Getbig and insult everyone. Guaranteed
fun for everyone.
(http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p569/Vincebertolini/2b4f086aa9955b295eb889f3052fa7ee.jpg)
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LOL. What simpletons. Do any of you think you can dismiss someone like me in person? Not in your lifetime. On the net you hide behind anonymity and call someone who betters you in a discussion all manner of names. Typical Getbig heroes. If your 'mates' here laugh then you feel supported and chuckle with glee. People have tried every putdown that means anything and I am still here. Try refuting my theories instead. Well, most here are not equipped to do that so resort to using ridicule. Those strategies say much more about you than me.
I am not an homosexual but why is that a putdown on Getbig? Well, because the guys here are insecure so they fear that label.
Taunts about being stupid don't work, either. That stooge, Bob Chick, tried that many times but failed. It really is sad to think that the so many guys who lift weights are thickheads. Sad but true, nevertheless.
So what is left? Oh, yes, I must be old and senile. Yeah, that is it. I must have forgetten everything I have learned.
The last resort is to label someone a pedo. That really is pathetic and goes against the spirit of both Getbig and the internet. The moderators don't remove most of that garbage so why is that?
Since these labels and insult don't work what then?
Oh, yes, keep taking supplements because that is what the magazines and champs tell you. Use free weights. That's it. If you don't get big then use drugs. If even the drugs fail then just come to Getbig and insult everyone. Guaranteed
fun for everyone.
You were asked numerous times to cite any textbook or authoritative source that supported your claim that 50g of protein is all that's needed for maximal hypertrophy. ONE.
And what did you do? You linked a messaging board as your "credible source". surely it would be a simple matter for a great mind such as yourself to find a published source supporting your claims, no?
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I don't have my textbook on nutrition as I gave it to my son and it was lost or borrowed. However, I agree with Mike Mentzer about the protein requirement.
http://www.highintensity.net/Forums/ViewTopic.asp?topic_id=1235
Well, can you give an example of an institute of higher learning with a credible nutrition course?
Perhaps we can find out what books they use.
I think Mentzer was honest and meant well, but he made some very simple mistakes with that protein comment. It's not like protein metabolism is that efficient a process, where 100% of that 1 gram of protein you get in that carrot goes to that new muscle being built. You only need to skim that WHO report I linked to to see how much more complicated it is. I'm no expert on protein metabolism, I don't really know shit, but I'm still confident Mentzer is way off.
So, give me a name of a university or other institution you think is credible.
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Typical musclehead. Can you detect irony and facetiousness when it is obvious? 2/3 of a muscle cell is H2O. Does that mean a bodybuilder should up the water intake?
Bodybuilders are so thick they wouldn't know the truth is it hit them in the face.
you fail to adress heme-iron u wang admiring old fart
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Basile whats the name of the textbook you gave your son and who is the author?
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Basile whats the name of the textbook you gave your son and who is the author?
I think it was Arnold's Encyclopedia Of Bodybuilding with all the pictures torn out.
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you fail to adress heme-iron u wang admiring old fart
Are you suggesting that Vince bumzeal's favourite isolation machine is a rampant rabbit, Johnny?
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Are you suggesting that Vince bumzeal's favourite isolation machine is a rampant rabbit, Johnny?
vince is an ass he will never give thanks when someone compliments him
he will never admit hes wrong on anything
he has no ability to even comment on heme-iron
he feels everyone is his enemy
these things make him stupid, i actually want to help the guy and let him understand about eating heme-iron all hes ever done is attack me while ive complimented him many times to be his friend in order for to get him to listen about the dangers of heme-iron to SAVE his life. if i could i would go to vinces house and tie him up and teach him the ways
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vince is an ass he will never give thanks when someone compliments him
he will never admit hes wrong on anything
he has no ability to even comment on heme-iron
he feels everyone is his enemy
these things make him stupid, i actually want to help the guy and let him understand about eating heme-iron all hes ever done is attack me while ive complimented him many times to be his friend in order for to get him to listen about the dangers of heme-iron to SAVE his life. if i could i would go to vinces house and tie him up and teach him the ways
He is still upset because Arnold placed him in the Mr Universe. So he lashes out a master in nutrition like Falcon and chases Goodrum around in every thread bashing him but he really wants Goodrum as a sex partner.
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if i could i would go to vinces house and tie him up and teach him the ways
This
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Does Vince have the wherewithal to be trolling? I cannot think of any other explanation. He's not unintelligent... usually you have to be stupid to be this delusional
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Does Vince have the wherewithal to be trolling? I cannot think of any other explanation. He's not unintelligent... usually you have to be stupid to be this delusional
hes getting to that age where he thinks he knows everythinf becausenhes fucking old.
reality is hes just fucking ignorant and an asshole.