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Is the ability to maintain such a low body fat considered really good discipline or is it just a mental illness of some sort? Or both?
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i'd say it depends on whether you're using this body for a purpose (fitness model, likes to fuck sluts etc.) or not
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It obviously takes dedication of some sort. That should be commended. Imagine if everyone was that dedicated towards something. The world would be a better place.
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Is the ability to maintain such a low body fat considered really good discipline or is it just a mental illness of some sort? Or both?
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good question
there is a lot of discipline involved
but some might argue that starving yourself year round so that you look good in the bathroom mirror is a bit off
body builders by nature are strange the battle we are all fighting is against ourselves
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Paging go4it.....
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You need to have the metabolism of a jungle cat, otherwise its just a big struggle
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genetics play a big part i have known a very few that can be around that without changing much of the life style they lead.
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I am 6.3% as of this morning according to the "Bod Pod" which I think are fairly accurate (+/- 3% or so).
Although I am quite small and weak, if I weighed over 170 right now I'd be surprised, down from 185 lbs of twisted steel at my "peak" oh brother.
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I met a guy at the gym in his 40's and he was the leanest dude I ever saw, he wasn't big, but just reasonable build, but really fucking lean. He told me he doesn't eat anymore (digestion solid food takes too much energy he said) and he just makes all type of weird juices out of vegetables and fruits and the like. He was a strange hippy type who rode a motorbike, lived in the hills and managed some type of weird holistic healing centre.
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I met a guy at the gym in his 40's and he was the leanest dude I ever saw, he wasn't big, but just reasonable build, but really fucking lean. He told me he doesn't eat anymore (digestion solid food takes too much energy he said) and he just makes all type of weird juices out of vegetables and fruits and the like. He was a strange hippy type who rode a motorbike, lived in the hills and managed some type of weird holistic healing centre.
How much does he charge for an oz?
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Is the ability to maintain such a low body fat considered really good discipline or is it just a mental illness of some sort? Or both?
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It doesn't even make sense if you're bodybuilding. This is a bodybuilding board, right?
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It doesn't even make sense if you're bodybuilding. This is a bodybuilding board, right?
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Is the ability to maintain such a low body fat considered really good discipline or is it just a mental illness of some sort? Or both?
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insane dedication and mental discipline. Something that deserve a great respect.
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It doesn't even make sense if you're bodybuilding. This is a bodybuilding board, right?
I said sub 7% maintaining that year round. Hell if truth be told, your last contest you were barely 7%. And certainly not under that. :-\
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I said sub 7% maintaining that year round. Hell if truth be told, your last contest you were barely 7%. And certainly not under that. :-\
I assume his point, is that you're not going to add mass during the offseason and still maintain 7%.
And if you're not adding mass, you're not "bodybuilding".
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It doesn't even make sense if you're bodybuilding. This is a bodybuilding board, right?
Some people treat gossip and opinions as an MMA board ;)
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Real sub 7% or Getbig sub 7% ?
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I'm craving a Publix sub now.
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Musclecenter does this year after year at 75 years old.
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genetics play a big part i have known a very few that can be around that without changing much of the life style they lead.
I have seen this many times, usually smaller guys.
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for many it is a mental illness, a form of body dysmorhpic disorder
jsut like the permabulker who gets mentally distressed if he is not huge and bulked, the year round lean guy has a fear of getting fat/not lean
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Is the ability to maintain such a low body fat considered really good discipline or is it just a mental illness of some sort? Or both?
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totally unhealthy
it's called anorexia
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for many it is a mental illness, a form of body dysmorhpic disorder
jsut like the permabulker who gets mentally distressed if he is not huge and bulked, the year round lean guy has a fear of getting fat/not lean
Yes, it is mental illness.
I know a person in San Diego like this. She trains at 3-4 different gyms in the area. She does morning cardio 7 times a week and weight trains in the afternoon. She does not work... hubby takes care of everything. She has skin peels and botox injections and is on GH. She is over 60 and looks great, although lately she's become paranoid and thinks everyone is stalking her and wants to rape her.
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Yes, it is mental illness.
I know a person in San Diego like this. She trains at 3-4 different gyms in the area. She does morning cardio 7 times a week and weight trains in the afternoon. She does not work... hubby takes care of everything. She has skin peels and botox injections and is on GH. She is over 60 and looks great, although lately she's become paranoid and thinks everyone is stalking her and wants to rape her.
She sounds like a reasonable woman- give her my number.
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being under 7% really drains you after about 6 months... when you get to 9-12months you're a walking zombie and crash out as soon as you sit down on your couch at night.
training sucks.. energy sucks.. your joints hurt.. ect..
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Galeniko, speak on this.
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Is this 7%?
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I'm craving a Publix sub now.
^^better than any chain and most all local sub shops
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up the dosage
eat galeniko with ocassional cheat meal
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I hover around 7-10%, it's all genetics.
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I hover around 7-10%, it's all genetics.
so do I.. but SUB-7% wears on you.
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I said sub 7% maintaining that year round. Hell if truth be told, your last contest you were barely 7%. And certainly not under that. :-\
Neither was Arnold but he managed to win a few Olympias. My final a week before was tested a little over 5% through fitness wave (water testing). Don't confuse water with fat son. I was 46 and still managed to beat children loaded up on shit almost half my age.
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Neither was Arnold but he managed to win a few Olympias. My final a week before was tested a little over 5% through fitness wave (water testing). Don't confuse water with fat son. I was 46 and still managed to beat children loaded up on shit almost half my age.
Just messing with ya Coach...You looked good at your show...
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I've been maintaining 10% eating clean 80-85% of the time. 7% year 'round would require 90-95%.
Not gonna happen.
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8 to 10 is reasonable. I struggle with 10 to 12% off season. I have long times off. 10&33months the last two off seasons. Hit 18% the last one.
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Is the ability to maintain such a low body fat considered really good discipline or is it just a mental illness of some sort? Or both?
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Are you fat?
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I have never been above 9-10% as an adult even when I'm not running much. I think this is mostly just genetics. I doubt I could get up to to 20+% without seriously compromising my health.
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Are you fat?
Nope...Have been under 7% and don't go over 10ish%...But to stay that low(7%) for any extended period of time, it seems to take over your life/mind...Constantly thinking of food. I've water fasted for 10 days before and had the same feelings about food. Takes over the mind to some degree...
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Nope...Have been under 7% and don't go over 10ish%...But to stay that low(7%) for any extended period of time, it seems to take over your life/mind...Constantly thinking of food. I've water fasted for 10 days before and had the same feelings about food. Takes over the mind to some degree...
I'm the same...10% and a bit under I'm fine with but it does take a lot more effort once I try to go under that. But people who have been fatter than that for a long time have a hard time even getting to and maintaining something like a 12% never mind a 7%.
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We need Galienko back to straighten this shit out. Shitso ran him off but apologized later.
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of course you can.
what is not maintainable for any length of time would be 5 and lower. even 6 can be maintained for a great part of the year.
the difference in look between 5 and 6 tho is not as great as the difference between 4 and 6. that is night and day. a guy can be a true 6, carb deplete, water load, use arimidex and look 5 or lower in one weeks time.
the reason however you dont see guys 6 and lower year round is because its much harder to diet down and maintain it after- its the goal that gets met, after that the mental aspect of achieving it is gone, resulting in a breakaway from the plan that got you there. the guys you see at 6-7% year round litterally are that lean all eyar and prolly have been for years. they dont yo-yo. they live that lifestyle.
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Is this 7%?
thats sub7 all day.
prolly closer to 5-6.
dude need to do some crunches. weighted crunches. not having abs really diminishes the fact hes got a really low bf level. whats the sense of being that lean and not having abs to show for it.
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of course you can.
what is not maintainable for any length of time would be 5 and lower. even 6 can be maintained for a great part of the year.
the difference in look between 5 and 6 tho is not as great as the difference between 4 and 6. that is night and day. a guy can be a true 6, carb deplete, water load, use arimidex and look 5 or lower in one weeks time.
the reason however you dont see guys 6 and lower year round is because its much harder to diet down and maintain it after- its the goal that gets met, after that the mental aspect of achieving it is gone, resulting in a breakaway from the plan that got you there. the guys you see at 6-7% year round litterally are that lean all eyar and prolly have been for years. they dont yo-yo.
Bingo!
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I hover around 7-10%, it's all genetics.
Genetics will keep you lean when young, but as you age, even the most genetically gifted will have to watch their diet:
Bo Jackson at 50:
(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l142/thinlizzy21/fa6302220b6123bd9815b75cb3b224be_zpsde021a05.jpg)
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I stay at about 10% bf year around and cut to 7% or under when I feel to.
im at about 9% bf @ 250lbs and having hard time losing more lately due to work and food.
Once i hit 7% and stay for long i feel odd and I feel weak.
Hopefully will star cutting again next week.
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I stay about 45% in the winter then dial in around march at 6% for hoes.
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I stay about 45% in the winter then dial in around march at 6% for hoes.
march madness ???
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Nope...Have been under 7% and don't go over 10ish%...But to stay that low(7%) for any extended period of time, it seems to take over your life/mind...Constantly thinking of food. I've water fasted for 10 days before and had the same feelings about food. Takes over the mind to some degree...
I don't know about BF percentages as i don't test, but staying very lean for longer periods was a bit painful as you are never full and constantly wanting food. Very hard to hold and being that extra 4-5 pounds heavier feels a lot better.
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march madness ???
;D
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I don't know about BF percentages as i don't test, but staying very lean for longer periods was a bit painful as you are never full and constantly wanting food. Very hard to hold and being that extra 4-5 pounds heavier feels a lot better.
It's also about variety.
After eating chicken and veggies all week, it's nice to cut loose a bit on the weekends.
This is me, at age 50 @10%. Would I really look any different in clothes @ 7%?
(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l142/thinlizzy21/null_zps58bc3a9c.jpg)
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8 to 10 is reasonable. I struggle with 10 to 12% off season. I have long times off. 10&33months the last two off seasons. Hit 18% the last one.
No disrespect but u look to be more than 10% at show time in some of your shows.
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Off season(http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/r630/intenceman/null-2450.jpg)
Contest (http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/r630/intenceman/64583dce.jpg)(http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/r630/intenceman/null-1073.jpg) very
Hard for me to stay and get real lean.. Size is becoming easier..
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Off season(http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/r630/intenceman/null-2450.jpg)
Contest (http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/r630/intenceman/64583dce.jpg)(http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/r630/intenceman/null-1073.jpg) very
Hard for me to stay and get real lean.. Size is becoming easier..
[/quote You appear to be getting better, but u are still 10% in those contest pics.
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No disrespect but u look to be more than 10% at show time in some of your shows.
I think I was 7-8% in those two contests- 2010. This past year I can't count because I was battling through with what turned out to be an umbillical hernia- made a shambles of my HIIT cardio- couldnt do it as often as I wanted. Left me short. Still gave it a hell of a shot..,
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All I know is that once I get through with this diet and get down to 10% I'm not ever getting fat again.
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All I know is that once I get through with this diet and get down to 10% I'm not ever getting fat again.
BOY DO I FEEL YA ON THIS ONE! Agreed.
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All I know is that if you are a natural like I am you shed a lot of muscle along with the fat when you get really lean.
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I met a guy he was the leanest dude I ever saw, he wasn't big, but just reasonable build,
thats incredible
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All I know is that if you are a natural like I am you shed a lot of muscle along with the fat when you get really lean.
I don't buy it. You do get smaller, but that's from fat not surrounding the muscles. People think fat is present only around the midsection, but it's everywhere on the body.
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I don't buy it. You do get smaller, but that's from fat not surrounding the muscles. People think fat is present only around the midsection, but it's everywhere on the body.
Huge difference between just very lean and sub-7%. When you try to get down to 5-6% or even stay there for a few months you will lose muscle especially as a natural.
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All I know is that if you are a natural like I am you shed a lot of muscle along with the fat when you get really lean.
yeah its a bitch when you get down under 10% and for some even higher. Nattys gotta take the cut super slow if they want to minimize muscle loss.
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Off season(http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/r630/intenceman/null-2450.jpg)
Contest (http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/r630/intenceman/64583dce.jpg)(http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/r630/intenceman/null-1073.jpg) very
Hard for me to stay and get real lean.. Size is becoming easier..
All the way a big dude.
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Huge difference between just very lean and sub-7%. When you try to get down to 5-6% or even stay there for a few months you will lose muscle especially as a natural.
IMO, once you get below 7% you start to hit your essential fats, so, the body responds by catabolizing muscle tissue instead. For a natty, 8% is about as low as you can go year 'round without shrinking. At 10% muscle loss shouldn't be an issue.
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IMO, once you get below 7% you start to hit your essential fats, so, the body responds by catabolizing muscle tissue instead. For a natty, 8% is about as low as you can go year 'round without shrinking. At 10% muscle loss shouldn't be an issue.
bullshit and broscience- if it was that hard to lost tissue none of us would be here. cavemen hunted for days on empty stomachs. they werent juiced up, and they werent fat.
they had an incredible activity rate as they were nomadic tribesmen not farmers.
baffles me so many people subscribe to this idiocy of 'going catabolic'. how much muscle will you lose? pounds? i dont think so. MAYBE ounces. maybe. what you will lose is the look and fullness you attribute to muscle when in fact it is nothing but glycogen and water, and some strength associated with that.
do you know how hard it is to lose lean tissue. dont even bring 'starvation mode' into this please. lol :D
your a good poster bro. but lose that mentality. its detrimental to helping you reach your goals.
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I am sub 0% right now can probably keep it up for 7 days.
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I am sub 0% right now can probably keep it up for 7 days.
that's what she said
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I am sub 0% right now can probably keep it up for 7 days.
Flex Wheeler was tigher, much tighter.
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I am sub 0% right now can probably keep it up for 7 days.
Did Jim Quinn do the caliper test on you?
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Flex Wheeler was tigher, much tighter.
Damn it I can never beat that fucker he has the genes on me.
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Damn it I can never beat that fucker he has the genes on me.
;D I'm with you there brother.
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Off season(http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/r630/intenceman/null-2450.jpg)
Contest (http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/r630/intenceman/64583dce.jpg)(http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/r630/intenceman/null-1073.jpg) very
Hard for me to stay and get real lean.. Size is becoming easier..
thats one big fucking gramp. How old are you?
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to all the fat fucks out there.
this is the wrong question, a guy whos under electricity all year and somewhat eat rights and know when to lay the fork down and trains every day, how the fuck can one be over 7%?
i tell you how, because they very lazy and undedicated dieters, swines disguised as humans, they only use the protein intake to justify the foods and then fill up the rest on oreas or whatever else their bloated face wishes to have stuffed into itself.
too soft to eat properly?maybe find new hobby?
another reason is, jesus wept, many are afraid to "Lose" muscle.but they dont realize what they lose is all fat and water that they have confused with muscle all the time.
its very easy to tell that such fools never have been shredded to the bones, if you been there, you know how much muscle you carry.if you havent been there, you have no right to talk, in your own fucking best interest, for youre clueless.
when youre 5% shredded, and when youre 10% soft, you carry the same muscle amount.very simple.
again, whos been to nomans land, no fat anymore on the body, only they know how mch size they carry.the rest only has vague clues.
just like some women can cover up their fat celulitis riddles asses and legs with some clothes, its impossible to tell, and then, when the clothes come off, you suddenly find yourself in the horror show.
"galeniko how can you always be so shredded?" .well guess how.when i walk past a mcdonalds, it doesnt act like a magnet on me.
and if i go in there, i go to laugh at the fatsos who line up like pigs,and then i have a diet coke,living the life.
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to all the fat fucks out there.
this is the wrong question, a guy whos under electricity all year and somewhat eat rights and know when to lay the fork down and trains every day, how the fuck can one be over 7%?
i tell you how, because they very lazy and undedicated dieters, swines disguised as humans, they only use the protein intake to justify the foods and then fill up the rest on oreas or whatever else their bloated face wishes to have stuffed into itself.
too soft to eat properly?maybe find new hobby?
another reason is, jesus wept, many are afraid to "Lose" muscle.but they dont realize what they lose is all fat and water that they have confused with muscle all the time.
its very easy to tell that such fools never have been shredded to the bones, if you been there, you know how much muscle you carry.if you havent been there, you have no right to talk, in your own fucking best interest, for youre clueless.
when youre 5% shredded, and when youre 10% soft, you carry the same muscle amount.very simple.
again, whos been to nomans land, no fat anymore on the body, only they know how mch size they carry.the rest only has vague clues.
just like some women can cover up their fat celulitis riddles asses and legs with some clothes, its impossible to tell, and then, when the clothes come off, you suddenly find yourself in the horror show.
"galeniko how can you always be so shredded?" .well guess how.when i walk past a mcdonalds, it doesnt act like a magnet on me.
and if i go in there, i go to laugh at the fatsos who line up like pigs,and then i have a diet coke,living the life.
Welcome back.
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to all the fat fucks out there.
this is the wrong question, a guy whos under electricity all year and somewhat eat rights and know when to lay the fork down and trains every day, how the fuck can one be over 7%?
i tell you how, because they very lazy and undedicated dieters, swines disguised as humans, they only use the protein intake to justify the foods and then fill up the rest on oreas or whatever else their bloated face wishes to have stuffed into itself.
too soft to eat properly?maybe find new hobby?
another reason is, jesus wept, many are afraid to "Lose" muscle.but they dont realize what they lose is all fat and water that they have confused with muscle all the time.
its very easy to tell that such fools never have been shredded to the bones, if you been there, you know how much muscle you carry.if you havent been there, you have no right to talk, in your own fucking best interest, for youre clueless.
when youre 5% shredded, and when youre 10% soft, you carry the same muscle amount.very simple.
again, whos been to nomans land, no fat anymore on the body, only they know how mch size they carry.the rest only has vague clues.
just like some women can cover up their fat celulitis riddles asses and legs with some clothes, its impossible to tell, and then, when the clothes come off, you suddenly find yourself in the horror show.
"galeniko how can you always be so shredded?" .well guess how.when i walk past a mcdonalds, it doesnt act like a magnet on me.
and if i go in there, i go to laugh at the fatsos who line up like pigs,and then i have a diet coke,living the life.
this came up today in another thread. nattys are afraid of going 'catabolic' if they stay under 6%. lol if they only knew how hard it was to lose lean tissue. that precious weight they feel they are losing isnt lean tissue. its glycogen and water. they let FEAR (Fuck Everything And Run) stop them from going beyond what they have been told, and have been sold and actually accomplishing their goals.
fuck man the truth needs to get out. glad to see someone else who gets it.
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this came up today in another thread. nattys are afraid of going 'catabolic' if they stay under 6%. lol if they only knew how hard it was to lose lean tissue. that precious weight they feel they are losing isnt lean tissue. its glycogen and water. they let FEAR (Fuck Everything And Run) stop them from going beyond what they have been told, and have been sold and actually accomplishing their goals.
fuck man the truth needs to get out. glad to see someone else who gets it.
while this is true somewhat, i have objection to make.
deep inside, behind their bloated faces, they know full well how "much" real size they carry.
and they know whats gonna be left after the diet.the thought of that rather unimpressive vision makes them trapped in the fatso mindset.
they all say one day soon, this januray, that sumer, ill be ripped.
despite that never hapening, even if, so they come into shape for a summer and then go back to look like an up and coming sumo wrestling prodigy.
might as well lease a car to impress someone.
i cant believe how ppl with tripple chins and two bloated faces call ppl at 7% anorexic,haha.
7% is a bbuilders off season bodyfat range.if one is fatter than that, hes either newcomer, or should be labeled powerlifter.but without the strenght.lol.
when someone hasnt ever been say 9%, they beter get going, the first time getting there is hell, mentaly and physicaly.
and from there, it only gets worse.the way to total shreddedness requires a litle bit mental insanity.
its called willpower.a simple word, but its much simpler to watch walter white guy cooking meth on tv while downing oreos with beer.
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the revolution(oh brother) has said they afraid to lose something under 6%..
the hilarious thing is they dont even come anywhere close before they give up.
whats the point?being fat its best to never show up on a beach, might be confused with a stranded whale or other animal species.
being skinny bc there never was any muscle to begin with,makes folks feel mentaly uneasy.
whats the solution.
shutting up a bit, hand out of panties, put away flex magazine, train, eat the right stuff(everyone is expert on this,no?nobody needs tips on this, they read on the internet they all experts, despite lack of progress over decades).and take your time.
oh ,sure, some will jump up now and say "drugs", sure.sure,chubster, drugs,eh?
well go get them and try them,see what happens.everyons an expert on that too.
the internet made sure theres a renaisance of knowlegde.or is it just random idiots spewing diarrhae from the mouths?
be pioneers, and try for yourselves.
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Real sub 7% or Getbig sub 7% ?
Yeah, a lot of people look diced at 10. It just depends on genetics and how you carry the weight.
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Yeah, a lot of people look diced at 10. It just depends on genetics and how you carry the weight.
only natural will look somewhat ok at 10%.
steroid users will look an absolutely gross mess at 10%.esp in pics,not so bad irl
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here's the thing gal
when i hit sub-7 something "magical" happens ie. i've lost that stubborn fat off the obliques and lower abs and veins are running up and down the abs
right now i feel like a total fatass even though technically i'm not, seeing that i'm 8-9%
there's a huge difference between sub-7 and 8-9% btw
i could get back down to sub-7 in less than 3 weeks if i really tried but i'm not so sure if it's worth it coz the conventional wisdom is that it's nearly impossible to gain only lean muscle tissue without adding some fat and water, so what are your thoughts on that? is it best to gain a little fat and water in the process of gaining lean muscle tissue?
on a side note i've gained 6 kilo but if i went back down to sub-7 i'd probably be just 2 or maybe 3 kilos heavier, probably closer to 2 kilo
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here's the thing gal
when i hit sub-7 something "magical" happens ie. i've lost that stubborn fat off the obliques and lower abs and veins are running up and down the abs
right now i feel like a total fatass even though technically i'm not, seeing that i'm 8-9%
there's a huge difference between sub-7 and 8-9% btw
i could get back down to sub-7 in less than 3 weeks if i really tried but i'm not so sure if it's worth it coz the conventional wisdom is that it's nearly impossible to gain only lean muscle tissue without adding some fat and water, so what are your thoughts on that? is it best to gain a little fat and water in the process of gaining lean muscle tissue?
The drugs get cheaper than the food at some point too if you eat all fish and steak and good shit.
on a side note i've gained 6 kilo but if i went back down to sub-7 i'd probably be just 2 or maybe 3 kilos heavier, probably closer to 2 kilo
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here's the thing gal
when i hit sub-7 something "magical" happens ie. i've lost that stubborn fat off the obliques and lower abs and veins are running up and down the abs
right now i feel like a total fatass even though technically i'm not, seeing that i'm 8-9%
there's a huge difference between sub-7 and 8-9% btw
i could get back down to sub-7 in less than 3 weeks if i really tried but i'm not so sure if it's worth it coz the conventional wisdom is that it's nearly impossible to gain only lean muscle tissue without adding some fat and water, so what are your thoughts on that? is it best to gain a little fat and water in the process of gaining lean muscle tissue?
on a side note i've gained 6 kilo but if i went back down to sub-7 i'd probably be just 2 or maybe 3 kilos heavier, probably closer to 2 kilo
for you its ok, you on first cycle and still on the small side of size spectrum.
and theres no worries, you atleast know how to diet all the way down.
agree, 6% is where on starts to look very very good.
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the revolution(oh brother) has said they afraid to lose something under 6%..
the hilarious thing is they dont even come anywhere close before they give up.
whats the point?being fat its best to never show up on a beach, might be confused with a stranded whale or other animal species.
being skinny bc there never was any muscle to begin with,makes folks feel mentaly uneasy.
whats the solution.
shutting up a bit, hand out of panties, put away flex magazine, train, eat the right stuff(everyone is expert on this,no?nobody needs tips on this, they read on the internet they all experts, despite lack of progress over decades).and take your time.
oh ,sure, some will jump up now and say "drugs", sure.sure,chubster, drugs,eh?
well go get them and try them,see what happens.everyons an expert on that too.
the internet made sure theres a renaisance of knowlegde.or is it just random idiots spewing diarrhae from the mouths?
be pioneers, and try for yourselves.
pretty much what i said bro.
except i said it in half the words, and in english.
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pretty much what i said bro.
except i said it in half the words, and in english.
oh look,we got a comedian here.
i guess you used less words to get more time to munch on oreos :-X
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oh look,we got a comedian here.
i guess you used less words to get more time to munch on oreos :-X
oreos? processed and refined sugars are the devil.
guys wonder why they walk around all bloaty and holding water. the blame everything from their chemical intake to how many cals they had the day before, but dont take into consideration sodium and refined sugars.
im too pretty for that shit.
ps not a cookie fan. cakes and baked goods however. ya bring it.
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oreos? processed and refined sugars are the devil.
guys wonder why they walk around all bloaty and holding water. the blame everything from their chemical intake to how many cals they had the day before, but dont take into consideration sodium and refined sugars.
im too pretty for that shit.
ps not a cookie fan. cakes and baked goods however. ya bring it.
hm ,this is an interesting pov actualy.
i agree sugars are very bad(insulin users are exempt,they need it, but this doesnt mean its good), in a way sugar alone is in and out the body fast,if consumed on itself.when depleted, this wont cause much or an damage.
but when other macros,esp sat fats are added, which often does come with salt, one sets themselves up for a catastrophy.
all depends on whether depleted or not and if one minds water retention or not, the peds usage will kinda help to not gain much fat.
or well.,if one simply wants a break from the dieting.happens to the best :-X
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here's the thing gal
when i hit sub-7 something "magical" happens ie. i've lost that stubborn fat off the obliques and lower abs and veins are running up and down the abs
right now i feel like a total fatass even though technically i'm not, seeing that i'm 8-9%
there's a huge difference between sub-7 and 8-9% btw
i could get back down to sub-7 in less than 3 weeks if i really tried but i'm not so sure if it's worth it coz the conventional wisdom is that it's nearly impossible to gain only lean muscle tissue without adding some fat and water, so what are your thoughts on that? is it best to gain a little fat and water in the process of gaining lean muscle tissue?
on a side note i've gained 6 kilo but if i went back down to sub-7 i'd probably be just 2 or maybe 3 kilos heavier, probably closer to 2 kilo
pics?of a more bulked version of u...
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pics?of a more bulked version of u...
maybe in a few weeks
i've just added superdrol back in with the dbol and it's drying me up a bit (as i hoped it would) so if things keep going like they are then i'll probably take some pics and send them to a select few on here, including you stud ;)
i took the dbol up to 70-80 mg and it made me a bloated toad, so fuck that noise, now i'm back down to 20-30 mg and that seems to be the sweet spot for me as far as gains vs. sides are concerned
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maybe in a few weeks
i've just added superdrol back in with the dbol and it's drying me up a bit (as i hoped it would) so if things keep going like they are then i'll probably take some pics and send them to a select few on here, including you stud ;)
i took the dbol up to 70-80 mg and it made me a bloated toad, so fuck that noise, now i'm back down to 20-30 mg and that seems to be the sweet spot for me as far as gains vs. sides are concerned
8)
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Ukjeff will return on October 31st to own you with pictures.... you must satisfy the terms of the duel by also posting pictures dj181
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Ukjeff will return on October 31st to own you with pictures.... you must satisfy the terms of the duel by also posting pictures dj181
True dj181 said he was going to be ripped and bigger on oct 31, now another change? ::)