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Title: White bodybuilders health compared to black bodybuilders
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 21, 2013, 11:47:12 AM
Why is it that black bodybuilders seems comfortable with their size, not panting when talking and seem chill, but white bodybuilders always seem uncomfortable, out of breath, always sweating and look like they are ready to collapse in a second?
Title: Re: White bodybuilders health compared to black bodybuilders
Post by: Hulkotron on October 21, 2013, 11:48:47 AM
Good question EDB.
Title: Re: White bodybuilders health compared to black bodybuilders
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 21, 2013, 11:53:53 AM
Good question EDB.

Just look at the last 5-6 bodybuilder deaths, I believe they are all white.
Title: Re: White bodybuilders health compared to black bodybuilders
Post by: anabolichalo on October 21, 2013, 01:51:30 PM
Why is it that black bodybuilders seems comfortable with their size, not panting when talking and seem chill, but white bodybuilders always seem uncomfortable, out of breath, always sweating and look like they are ready to collapse in a second?
black bbers kidneys blow all the time

see orville
Title: Re: White bodybuilders health compared to black bodybuilders
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 21, 2013, 01:52:52 PM
Why is it that black bodybuilders seems comfortable with their size, not panting when talking and seem chill, but white bodybuilders always seem uncomfortable, out of breath, always sweating and look like they are ready to collapse in a second?

Yeah Buddy
Title: Re: White bodybuilders health compared to black bodybuilders
Post by: DroppingPlates on October 21, 2013, 01:59:53 PM
How about Paul Dillett & Ronnie Coleman?  ::)
Title: Re: White bodybuilders health compared to black bodybuilders
Post by: bradistani on October 21, 2013, 02:18:35 PM
Yeah Buddy

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Title: Re: White bodybuilders health compared to black bodybuilders
Post by: Raymondo on October 21, 2013, 02:21:52 PM
Just look at the last 5-6 bodybuilder deaths, I believe they are all white.

They wouldn't go off the juice. Art Atwood, Nasser, Luke Wood.. those guys were huge to the bitter end.

The black bodybuilders of the 90s have all downsized dramatically. Wheeler, Ray, Dillett, Cormier (especially Cormier)
Title: Re: White bodybuilders health compared to black bodybuilders
Post by: Wolfox on October 21, 2013, 02:27:27 PM
Whites are much more reliant on drugs for their size and musculature than blacks, thus their internal organs, etc., are taxed far more.

Without drugs, blacks would dominate. Dorian would have never got out of local competitions.

At the Olympia level I don't think so. Were dealing with the creme of the crop who are all reliant on extreme dosages. I'm sure everyone on that stage wants to win and is willing to do whatever it takes.
Title: Re: White bodybuilders health compared to black bodybuilders
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 21, 2013, 02:32:24 PM
. I'm sure everyone on that stage wants to win and is willing to do whatever it takes.

I don't agree with this. A vast majority know they can't win and will never win and know their role in the pecking order. And don't have the means to go all out for a contest they know they have absolutely no shot of winning.
Title: Re: White bodybuilders health compared to black bodybuilders
Post by: Wolfox on October 21, 2013, 02:40:34 PM
I don't agree with this. A vast majority know they can't win and will never win and know their role in the pecking order. And don't have the means to go all out for a contest they know they have absolutely no shot of winning.

Some of them may not have the means but that's different than not trying to get ahead of the next guy. You don't go through the extremes of a contest prep for the mr Olympia not wanting to place as high as possible. You don't make it that far - the Superbowl of bodybuilding - to just halfass it. Generally.

But i'm sure there are a few odd balls (i.e sane) who are just happy to be on the stage. But most have hopes of being that dark horse of the event that surprises everyone.
Title: Re: White bodybuilders health compared to black bodybuilders
Post by: Parker on October 21, 2013, 02:47:30 PM
I don't agree with this. A vast majority know they can't win and will never win and know their role in the pecking order. And don't have the means to go all out for a contest they know they have absolutely no shot of winning.
One guy that comes to mind who could achieve some success would be Jojo Ntiforo. But, apparently he doesn't have the sponsorship to take it to the next level.
Title: Re: White bodybuilders health compared to black bodybuilders
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 21, 2013, 02:51:41 PM
One guy that comes to mind who could achieve some success would be Jojo Ntiforo. But, apparently he doesn't have the sponsorship to take it to the next level.

Exactly , you know else who comes to mind Troy Alves another great physique in the wrong era
Title: Re: White bodybuilders health compared to black bodybuilders
Post by: Teutonic Knight on October 21, 2013, 02:52:39 PM
How many of todays top black pros actually competed at Ifbb World amateur championships  ;)
Title: Re: White bodybuilders health compared to black bodybuilders
Post by: Wolfox on October 21, 2013, 02:55:31 PM
A lot of these 'dont have the means' guys are really heavy users who've maxed out. They like to blame it on the lack of sponsorship or the fact that they have to work a part time,job but really they just don't have he genetic means.
Title: Re: White bodybuilders health compared to black bodybuilders
Post by: Viking11 on October 21, 2013, 03:04:14 PM
This is all kind of depressing.
Title: Re: White bodybuilders health compared to black bodybuilders
Post by: calfzilla on October 21, 2013, 07:23:05 PM
Seems like blacks burn through kidneys like light bulbs.  :-\
Title: Re: White bodybuilders health compared to black bodybuilders
Post by: Natural Man on October 21, 2013, 07:42:22 PM
They all equally die 20 or 30 years younger than they should tho.
Title: Re: White bodybuilders health compared to black bodybuilders
Post by: Dr.J on October 21, 2013, 11:08:43 PM
Nice face/tits on the blonde.
amen
Title: Re: White bodybuilders health compared to black bodybuilders
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on October 21, 2013, 11:17:51 PM
black bbers kidneys blow all the time

see orville

Diabetics of peace
Title: Do you think blacks have better genetics or are whites doing something else?
Post by: mik1111 on October 22, 2013, 05:16:26 AM
There's the myth that blacks have better genetics, but could it be that whites/asians/... have good jobs and don't see bodybuilding as a road to success?

I mean:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statistics_of_incarcerated_African-American_males
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t02.htm

why leave a decent job to wear a thong?
Title: Re: Do you think blacks have better genetics or are whites doing something else?
Post by: The Showstoppa on October 22, 2013, 05:19:31 AM
Shhhhhh. Quit being logical. 
Title: Re: Do you think blacks have better genetics or are whites doing something else?
Post by: Mr Nobody on October 22, 2013, 05:42:10 AM
Better genetics for what?
Title: Re: Do you think blacks have better genetics or are whites doing something else?
Post by: The Showstoppa on October 22, 2013, 05:42:47 AM
Better genetics for what?

Jumping and dancing. 
Title: Re: Do you think blacks have better genetics or are whites doing something else?
Post by: whitewidow on October 22, 2013, 06:20:23 AM
Blacks def are born genetically superior at least 80% of them are. They have these super joints and limbs that allow them to jump higher and also have tendons that allow them to handle more weight. sad but true. They hve crazy genetics most of them,like i said at least 80% of them are superior to white athletes
Title: Re: Do you think blacks have better genetics or are whites doing something else?
Post by: The Showstoppa on October 22, 2013, 06:23:02 AM
Blacks def are born genetically superior at least 80% of them are. They have these super joints and limbs that allow them to jump higher and also have tendons that allow them to handle more weight. sad but true. They hve crazy genetics most of them,like i said at least 80% of them are superior to white athletes

Only in the physical parts of sports. 
Title: Re: Do you think blacks have better genetics or are whites doing something else?
Post by: Sophus on October 22, 2013, 06:23:57 AM
Blacks def are born genetically superior at least 80% of them are. They have these super joints and limbs that allow them to jump higher and also have tendons that allow them to handle more weight. sad but true. They hve crazy genetics most of them,like i said at least 80% of them are superior to white athletes

I have some eastern european friends that are crazy crazy strong, for pure strength they are generally superior to blacks
Title: Re: Do you think blacks have better genetics or are whites doing something else?
Post by: NordicNerd on October 22, 2013, 06:29:03 AM
There's the myth that blacks have better genetics, but could it be that whites/asians/... have good jobs and don't see bodybuilding as a road to success?
...

Blacks, what kind of ethnicity is that? I guess you mean people descending from the south of Sahara.

Some of these ethnical groups seem to have better genetics for bodybuilding than Caucasians. One major difference is that they have narrower waists. On the other hand, they usually have shorter calf muscles (gastrocnemius).

For strength, it is not so clear cut. I think most top powerlifters have a wide waist, short arms etc- traits that are more common in caucasians.

NN

Title: Re: Do you think blacks have better genetics or are whites doing something else?
Post by: dj181 on October 22, 2013, 06:31:17 AM
blacks get thier asses handed to them with regards to upper body strength and power

(http://eshop.aktin.cz/user/upload/westside_barbell09ipa.jpg)
Title: Re: Do you think blacks have better genetics or are whites doing something else?
Post by: The Showstoppa on October 22, 2013, 06:32:38 AM
blacks get thier asses handed to them with regards to upper body strength and power

(http://eshop.aktin.cz/user/upload/westside_barbell09ipa.jpg)

And in positions of higher level management and wealth accumulation.
Title: Re: Do you think blacks have better genetics or are whites doing something else?
Post by: dj181 on October 22, 2013, 06:44:42 AM
And in positions of higher level management and wealth accumulation.

true dat
Title: Re: Do you think blacks have better genetics or are whites doing something else?
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on October 22, 2013, 07:06:21 AM
Blacks have superior genetics for athleticism..staying lean and ripped..and have natural ability for rhythm and dancing. However they also tend to have inferior genetics when it comes to brainpower and discipline
Title: Re: Do you think blacks have better genetics or are whites doing something else?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on October 22, 2013, 07:18:15 AM
Only in the physical parts of sports. 
you mean larry bird is not great because of his athleticism?
Title: Re: Do you think blacks have better genetics or are whites doing something else?
Post by: The Showstoppa on October 22, 2013, 07:19:38 AM
you mean larry bird is not great because of his athleticism?

Bird was/is a fantastic athlete.  As he once said " most rebounds are below the rim and thats where I get mine".   ;D
Title: Re: Do you think blacks have better genetics or are whites doing something else?
Post by: phreak on October 22, 2013, 07:22:56 AM
Better genetics for what?

Stretch marks on face. Would not hit.
Title: Re: Do you think blacks have better genetics or are whites doing something else?
Post by: Rami on October 22, 2013, 08:04:56 AM
Hebrew genes are all for short fast twitching muscles creating a stronger fight or flight reaction and heat dissipation.


Even technology and culture is ultimately a genetic expression of biologic organisms. But white culture and technology, though advanced, might not be very long lasting.
Title: Re: Do you think blacks have better genetics or are whites doing something else?
Post by: jpm101 on October 22, 2013, 09:02:42 AM
Guess you mean American Blacks from the web sites given.

On the average American Blacks are quicker, which improves speed and strength. Quickness will usually have a natural advantage in any sport. The ankle and calf leverage is better designed for jumping and running abilities. As are the toes/feet, which for better athletes tend to turn inward a bit.

On the average their metabolism  handles foods more completely, even poorer grades of foods. Only the strongest survived, from generation to generation, starting from them being taken as slaves (Muslim slave traders sold the slaves to Europeans) to the present generations.

American Black will have a mixture of other African tribes brought over here in America. Celtic DNA is very strong. Irish were brought over to the colonies, as slaves, by the British during the same period. And were housed in the same quarters as blacks on farms/work centers. Also some Scottish & Welsh. Best kept secret by America was that white slaves were also used in the early years of the colony.  All this went a great ways to improve the present African-American genetics.

Even after the American civil war, the freed Blacks intermingled with the poorer whites (Celtic DNA mostly) and started family's of their own.
Title: Re: Do you think blacks have better genetics or are whites doing something else?
Post by: keanu on October 22, 2013, 09:06:28 AM
For big muscles, yes blacvk have better genetics. Take away all the gear, and it wouldn't be close.
Title: Re: Do you think blacks have better genetics or are whites doing something else?
Post by: Army of One on October 22, 2013, 09:26:57 AM
Blacks have superior genetics for athleticism..staying lean and ripped..and have natural ability for rhythm and dancing. However they also tend to have inferior genetics when it comes to brainpower and discipline

Also most studies have them better at verbal creativity
Title: Re: Do you think blacks have better genetics or are whites doing something else?
Post by: Kwon_2 on October 22, 2013, 09:32:13 AM
Also most studies have them better at verbal creativity

You mean rhyming and such?
Title: Re: Do you think blacks have better genetics or are whites doing something else?
Post by: anabolichalo on October 22, 2013, 09:51:40 AM
in my extensive pondering on the matter i reached the following unsubstantiated conclusions


*blacks have wider shoulders and narrower waists ideal for bodybuilding but a rectangle shape is desirable for maximal strength which is where whites prevail

*they have rounder muscles ideal for bodybuilding but flat muscles are the key to maximal strength which is where whites prevail

*the calves are a bit in contrast with the theory so far, whites have more aesthetic calves and blacks more powerful and ugly short ones

*blacks have a smaller cranium and a wider jaw which is reaching in front of the forehead and nose line, this gives them an animalistic powerful look albeit less intelligent looking

*brain power has not been documented as far as i know for ethical reasons, but blacks can generally be taught anything from plumbing to brain surgery. however they are a lot less likely to discover new technologies or skills themselves possibly because they dont have reached the level of civilization that provides funds for r&d in several areas of science and technology


*blacks have larger penises and smooth skin that doesnt age

*their bones are heavier but less dense and weaken when there is lack of sunlight because their black skin requires more sunlight


Title: Re: Do you think blacks have better genetics or are whites doing something else?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on October 22, 2013, 09:53:03 AM
Bird was/is a fantastic athlete.  As he once said " most rebounds are below the rim and thats where I get mine".   ;D
;D
Title: Re: Do you think blacks have better genetics or are whites doing something else?
Post by: Dago_Joe on October 22, 2013, 09:56:04 AM
Generations and generations of running away from cops will make any "race" superior at running with a television in their hands.   ::)
Title: Re: Do you think blacks have better genetics or are whites doing something else?
Post by: Raymondo on October 22, 2013, 09:59:37 AM
Generations and generations of running away from cops will make any "race" superior at running with a television in their hands.   ::)

Hi 3333386
Title: Re: Do you think blacks have better genetics or are whites doing something else?
Post by: G_Thang on October 22, 2013, 10:03:55 AM
Nordics.
Title: Re: Do you think blacks have better genetics or are whites doing something else?
Post by: LittleJ on October 22, 2013, 10:06:43 AM
Jumping and dancing. 

Hi Sammy Sosa
Title: Re: Do you think blacks have better genetics or are whites doing something else?
Post by: Parker on October 22, 2013, 10:37:36 AM
Two words, Vince Goodrum...
Kills this thread.
Title: Re: White bodybuilders health compared to black bodybuilders
Post by: anabolichalo on October 22, 2013, 01:13:36 PM
Diabetics of peace
dong long or something as well

a lot of these blacks blowing kidneys left and right in the ifbb


i wonder how long kidneys can last on constant long term doses of test enanthate around 500mg/week

Title: Re: White bodybuilders health compared to black bodybuilders
Post by: doriancutlerman on October 22, 2013, 02:52:05 PM
Why is it that black bodybuilders seems comfortable with their size, not panting when talking and seem chill, but white bodybuilders always seem uncomfortable, out of breath, always sweating and look like they are ready to collapse in a second?

With all respect, man, Ronnie Coleman looked like he had a collapsed lung after hitting a couple of poses for Jay Leno back in 2001 or 2002.  He's also the only person I've seen photographed backstage sucking on an oxygen bag.

Some of what you're talking about is due to the fact that very high blood pressure shows up more readily in white BBers using a ton of shit, especially fairly pale Germanic and Nordic types like Markus Ruehl. 

I don't buy the idea that white dudes need to do a ton more shit than black guys to get just as muscular.  The primary difference between folks of European and African descent is BODYFAT.  There's a reason why most of those WSM types, and a majority of top powerlifters, are white:  they are big, strong and don't give a shit about cuts.

When was the last time a black dude was declared the "world's strongest man" outside of the contest itself?  That doughboy Mark Henry?  LOL.  A prime Kazmeier would eat him for breakfast.

Let's also face it:  of all of the top Mr. Olympia competitors from the past, how many white dudes are dead vs. black?  Sergio and Serge are dead.  How many Caucasoids from their time are dead?  The Mentzer brothers, who were known to abuse amphetamines (to say nothing of Mike taking up smoking in the early/mid 80s and going through those fucking filterless Camels like it was going out of style)?  Arnold is still alive.  Ferrigno is still alive.  Waller and Katz are still kicking, even if they look utterly ghoulish.  Zane is still around. 

Sorry to differ, but I just don't see the data to remotely support the notion that black dudes are necessarily predisposed to be more muscular, let alone live longer.  They might be better BODYBUILDERS on a whole, but that's a combination of several factors, and sheer size isn't one of them.  Do you think Fux, Nasser, Rami, Ruehl, Yates, Ferrigno or ilk were black?  Even some of the best so-called "black" bodybuilders, like Levrone and Dillet, were mulattoes. 

Title: Re: Do you think blacks have better genetics or are whites doing something else?
Post by: shrek on October 22, 2013, 05:39:43 PM
It was the white slave owners that selectively bought breed and traded only physically advanced slaves .... what would you need an intelligent negro for? You want a workhorse that will be able work hard for long years so if they are all strong and healthy and reproduce then you get a society of these fuckers.... but still they are not intelligent
Title: Re: Do you think blacks have better genetics or are whites doing something else?
Post by: Mr Nobody on October 22, 2013, 06:13:26 PM
Two words, Vince Goodrum...
Kills this thread.
;D
Title: Re: Do you think blacks have better genetics or are whites doing something else?
Post by: calfzilla on October 22, 2013, 09:35:10 PM
It was the white slave owners that selectively bought breed and traded only physically advanced slaves .... what would you need an intelligent negro for? You want a workhorse that will be able work hard for long years so if they are all strong and healthy and reproduce then you get a society of these fuckers.... but still they are not intelligent

We should have white slavery for a few hundred years to improve the quality of our bodybuilders.
Title: Re: Do you think blacks have better genetics or are whites doing something else?
Post by: The Showstoppa on October 23, 2013, 07:23:01 AM
It was the white slave owners that selectively bought breed and traded only physically advanced slaves .... what would you need an intelligent negro for? You want a workhorse that will be able work hard for long years so if they are all strong and healthy and reproduce then you get a society of these fuckers.... but still they are not intelligent

Hi Jimmy the Greek.
Title: Re: White bodybuilders health compared to black bodybuilders
Post by: Mr. MB on October 23, 2013, 07:50:08 AM
How many of todays top black pros actually competed at Ifbb World amateur championships  ;)

Not a "black" athlete....

Portugese, Native American and black in that order.

He is very healthy. Active grandfather.
Title: Re: White bodybuilders health compared to black bodybuilders
Post by: Mr. MB on October 23, 2013, 09:30:32 AM

Refering to Troy Alves

Not a "black" athlete....

Portugese, Native American and black in that order.

He is very healthy. Active grandfather.