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Narcotic use in bodybuilding seem to be very common.
Why do you think that is?
Are bodybuilders on a whole insecure people that dont value them selves?
Does it come from that it is a side effect from the gear market being illegal?
I've been into bodybuilding for 17 years and have noticed presription drugs that you find in a pharmacy, like benzodiazepines and opiates are used quite heavily as well as weed. Dorian Yates does not say no mary this he have said himself so this is nothing new. When I lived in amsterdam we trained at the same gym and his girlfriend then owned a whole strain of coffeeshops. He was a very good guy. Also (p.i.p) Ed van Amsterdam would do some to chill out every now and then. Marko Savolainen said speed ruined his career. I would never advocate people to use drugs though. It can be devastating and hard to balance.
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wtf is up with all these threads full of negativity towards bodybuilding. And this is supposed to be the webs no 1 bodybuilding forum?
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I was blown away when I started seeing how much recs were abused in bodybuilding. I idolized all the big guys at the gym and then I'd see them crushing opiates and snorting them in the washroom or doing blow on the weekends and drinking gallons of booze. I knew they juiced, but I didn't think they trashed their bodies with recs. But now I'm a lot more privy and see that if you're willing to shove tons of needles in your body, taking a pill or having a drink is nothing.
It's really sad to see such a high level of abuse in this "sport". I don't care if people decide to do drugs from time to time, but the abuse is rampant.
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Oh yes. This is the backdoor of bodybuilding...
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it does seem logical though... all the shit you put into your body forces you to deal with a lot of side effects - not only physical, but also mental. some people are better are dealing with anxiety/ depression/ lack of purpose/ feeling of worthlessness, some are worse and wind up snorting opiates or whatever
even letting your estro/ prolactin levels go off handle may cause a lot of mental issues and i'd say that's bound to happen sooner or later to every juicer
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it does seem logical though... all the shit you put into your body forces you to deal with a lot of side effects - not only physical, but also mental. some people are better are dealing with anxiety/ depression/ lack of purpose/ feeling of worthlessness, some are worse and wind up snorting opiates or whatever
even letting your estro/ prolactin levels go off handle may cause a lot of mental issues and i'd say that's bound to happen sooner or later to every juicer
Wanna get bigger ???.....here's some gear.
Estrogen causing itchy nips??....just take an ai
hair falling out??,.....rogaine and finasteride
lethargic from dieting??....heres some adderall
can't sleep cause of tren???.....take a sleeping pill
EQ giving you anxiety??....take a benzo
pain......opiates
We're predisposed to self medicate. If you're like a lot of people and completely ignorant to what you put in your body, or simply just don't care and willing to sacrifice everything for a certain physique you will have problems.
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I take muscle relaxers everyday
I take 1-2 every night due to a cracked disk....shits called tizanidine...I I feel like a complete douchbag taking it..but I'm trying to hold off that surgery for a while because I just had a surgery and want to wait a little longer before letting them cut me again..I have another one I'm suppose to take during the day but I can't talk myself into using it no matter how bad the pain
I just don't see how people go out of their way to get strung out on this shit
Bench
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Wanna get bigger ???.....here's some gear.
Estrogen causing itchy nips??....just take an ai
hair falling out??,.....rogaine and finasteride
lethargic from dieting??....heres some adderall
can't sleep cause of tren???.....take a sleeping pill
EQ giving you anxiety??....take a benzo
pain......opiates
We're predisposed to self medicate. If you're like a lot of people and completely ignorant to what you put in your body, or simply just don't care and willing to sacrifice everything for a certain physique you will have problems.
Great reply and spot on.
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Great reply and spot on.
Couldn't agree more
Bench
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Wanna get bigger ???.....here's some gear.
Estrogen causing itchy nips??....just take an ai
hair falling out??,.....rogaine and finasteride
lethargic from dieting??....heres some adderall
can't sleep cause of tren???.....take a sleeping pill
EQ giving you anxiety??....take a benzo
pain......opiates
We're predisposed to self medicate. If you're like a lot of people and completely ignorant to what you put in your body, or simply just don't care and willing to sacrifice everything for a certain physique you will have problems.
awesome.
its a slippery slope. like you said well im running tren and cant sleep so i'll use clonazapam to help me relax. i'll use zanax to sleep etc. pretty soon your using a cocktail of meds to offest the effects of the anabolics your using.
that being said every walk of life has its users. coke, speed, pot, optiates, m and g on the weekends. why should bbers be any different? maybe its amplified because bbing is 'supposed' to be a healthy pursuit, which for many it is about health and vitailty, but for others its about partying and getting laid.
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wtf is up with all these threads full of negativity towards bodybuilding. And this is supposed to be the webs no 1 bodybuilding forum?
That's exactly why it's the number 1 site...NO BULLSHIT ABOUT THE BULLSHIT.
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(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-bmUOcctXTvo/UN-opITIznI/AAAAAAAADA0/Dgblodlyc80/s640/Educationnotmedication.bmp)
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Wanna get bigger ???.....here's some gear.
Estrogen causing itchy nips??....just take an ai
hair falling out??,.....rogaine and finasteride
lethargic from dieting??....heres some adderall
can't sleep cause of tren???.....take a sleeping pill
EQ giving you anxiety??....take a benzo
pain......opiates
We're predisposed to self medicate. If you're like a lot of people and completely ignorant to what you put in your body, or simply just don't care and willing to sacrifice everything for a certain physique you will have problems.
This mofo broke it the fuck down.
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narcotics use is prevelant everywhere.
bodybuilding happens to be included in "everywhere"
narcotics use in the entertainment industry. (booze, coke, speed, opiates, weed, benzos)
narcotics use in professional sports. (booze, coke, opiates, weed)
narcotics use in business professionals. (booze, coke, benzos)
narcotics use in stay in stay-at-home moms (booze, benzos, opiates, prescription stimulants)
narcotics use in manual labor (booze, opiates, speed, weed)
ect ect ect....
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Why do you think that is?
No clue... lol
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Wanna get bigger ???.....here's some gear.
Estrogen causing itchy nips??....just take an ai
hair falling out??,.....rogaine and finasteride
lethargic from dieting??....heres some adderall
can't sleep cause of tren???.....take a sleeping pill
EQ giving you anxiety??....take a benzo
pain......opiates
We're predisposed to self medicate. If you're like a lot of people and completely ignorant to what you put in your body, or simply just don't care and willing to sacrifice everything for a certain physique you will have problems.
Or just deal with it...
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No clue... lol
LOL
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narcotics use is prevelant everywhere.
bodybuilding happens to be included in "everywhere"
narcotics use in the entertainment industry. (booze, coke, speed, opiates, weed, benzos)
narcotics use in professional sports. (booze, coke, opiates, weed)
narcotics use in business professionals. (booze, coke, benzos)
narcotics use in stay in stay-at-home moms (booze, benzos, opiates, prescription stimulants)
narcotics use in manual labor (booze, opiates, speed, weed)
ect ect ect....
I can vouch for the corporate world. Had a six figure sales rep who was a coke head die from an overdose (trained and ran so hid it well and had a huge house, wife and young kids) and knew a VP of sales for another company who met the same fate. Seemed like everyone I worked with drank, ate like crap and were on meds for one thing or another. Stress in high level business is insane and you pay dearly for the large paychecks.
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narcotics use is prevelant everywhere.
bodybuilding happens to be included in "everywhere"
narcotics use in the entertainment industry. (booze, coke, speed, opiates, weed, benzos)
narcotics use in professional sports. (booze, coke, opiates, weed)
narcotics use in business professionals. (booze, coke, benzos)
narcotics use in stay in stay-at-home moms (booze, benzos, opiates, prescription stimulants)
narcotics use in manual labor (booze, opiates, speed, weed)
ect ect ect....
We are a nation of addicts..literally zombies... Unite States of Addicted America
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LOL
haha!
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We are a nation of addicts..literally zombies... Unite States of Addicted America
always have been.
I worked for the department of tourism, which controlled the state 'archive unit'.. which would document/archive old documents, censes records/cards (back in 1907 for example, when a guy would go door to door and have you fill out a census card), and newspapers from the 1800's, ect...
in those newspapers, they'd advertise cocaine and heroin/morphine 'tonic's, and in the 20's you could get prescription 'brandy'.... women would drink the 'tonic's all day long while men drank whiskey, ect...
nothing's changed.
look at opium in china, coca in south America, khat in Africa, ect...
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always have been.
I worked for the department of tourism, which controlled the state 'archive unit'.. which would document/archive old documents, censes records/cards (back in 1907 for example, when a guy would go door to door and have you fill out a census card), and newspapers from the 1800's, ect...
in those newspapers, they'd advertise cocaine and heroin/morphine 'tonic's, and in the 20's you could get prescription 'brandy'.... women would drink the 'tonic's all day long while men drank whiskey, ect...
nothing's changed.
look at opium in china, coca in south America, khat in Africa, ect...
Sure, but not like it is today...
literally can look at the waitress/waiter/servers hands, fingers and arms and see if they are shooting up, or you can look at their mouths to see the slack from using crack and other drugs, or meth mouth. You can see this in the cashiers at the local store, smell the weed everywhere you go. Kids know that their parents are druggies, and the downward spiral of their relationships. DUIs all over the place, and advertisements for drugs on TV---for depression, bipolar, etc. Have a anxiety, need muscle relaxers? Neighborhoods decimated by crack, heroin---come to Baltimore. The local drug dealers are nothing but helping to destroy the communities for their own gains.
Drug prevention or getting the ourts involved, drug this and drug that. War on Drugs, with help with putting millions in the pockets of the fed and local governments.
Addiction to TV---or anything that gives that "high".
Of course there was the Cocaine Crazed Negroes that were the headlines of the South back in the early 20th century, which now has become "PCP Crazed ____" in the 21st century.
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Sure, but not like it is today...
literally can look at the waitress/waiter/servers hands, fingers and arms and see if they are shooting up, or you can look at their mouths to see the slack from using crack and other drugs, or meth mouth. You can see this in the cashiers at the local store, smell the weed everywhere you go. Kids know that their parents are druggies, and the downward spiral of their relationships. DUIs all over the place, and advertisements for drugs on TV---for depression, bipolar, etc. Have a anxiety, need muscle relaxers? Neighborhoods decimated by crack, heroin---come to Baltimore. The local drug dealers are nothing but helping to destroy the communities for their own gains.
Drug prevention or getting the ourts involved, drug this and drug that. War on Drugs, with help with putting millions in the pockets of the fed and local governments.
Addiction to TV---or anything that gives that "high".
Of course there was the Cocaine Crazed Negroes that were the headlines of the South back in the early 20th century, which now has become "PCP Crazed ____" in the 21st century.
legalize it all, and make it free so at least the junkies won't steal and rob for their addiction... and lower the "duty to flee" requirement for "self defense".
natural selection will thin the heard.
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I can vouch for the corporate world. Had a six figure sales rep who was a coke head die from an overdose (trained and ran so hid it well and had a huge house, wife and young kids) and knew a VP of sales for another company who met the same fate. Seemed like everyone I worked with drank, ate like crap and were on meds for one thing or another. Stress in high level business is insane and you pay dearly for the large paychecks.
Never tried Coke and never will. Makes people crazy. I am already that....I post on Getbig and suffer much abuse here. That is plenty crazy enough. ;D
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legalize it all, and make it free so at least the junkies won't steal and rob for their addiction... and lower the "duty to flee" requirement for "self defense".
natural selection will thin the heard.
A junkie is still a junkie, and a junkie will still steal for their addiction whether it's legal or not.
If it costs money, and a junkie runs out of money, then they will steal from whoever, and pawn the goods to get money. They will get into the scrap business (as key to note, scrappers tend to be opiate abusers).
If the drug dispenser store closes, a junkie wants their fix now, not later...and then they will try to break into the store. Either steal from siad store or rob the place and go to one that is open. A 24 hour dispenser you may suggest? Well, they run out of supply...which means a junkie may try and rob the place and go to another.
Bottom line, many are junkies because due to the break down (just like gangs) of the family and the promotion that drugs are a way of "re creating the reality that they desire", it's not surprising that when in times of economic hardship people tend to turn to towards drugs and booze to make the pain go away (pain being the mental and physical anguish).
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A junkie is still a junkie, and a junkie will still steal for their addiction whether it's legal or not.
If it costs money, and a junkie runs out of money, then they will steal from whoever, and pawn the goods to get money. They will get into the scrap business (as key to note, scrappers tend to be opiate abusers).
If the drug dispenser store closes, a junkie wants their fix now, not later...and then they will try to break into the store. Either steal from siad store or rob the place and go to one that is open. A 24 hour dispenser you may suggest? Well, they run out of supply...which means a junkie may try and rob the place and go to another.
Bottom line, many are junkies because due to the break down (just like gangs) of the family and the promotion that drugs are a way of "re creating the reality that they desire", it's not surprising that when in times of economic hardship people tend to turn to towards drugs and booze to make the pain go away (pain being the mental and physical anguish).
While there is truth in what you say, if drugs were more accessible and less expensive, there would be less of these crimes committed by the users. Moreover, if there is no profit in drugs for the illegal distributors, they wouldn't be pushing them on folks and many if not most would be out of business, but then so would the DEA which might put a real crimp in the economy.
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Dude at my gym got paid $10 to snort a 20mg of Dbol.
Needless to say he had a fantastic arm workout as well as being crowned the Gym Douchebag for the day.
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Dude at my gym got paid $10 to snort a 20mg of Dbol.
Needless to say he had a fantastic arm workout as well as being crowned the Gym Douchebag for the day.
Snorted D-bol? What an idiot!
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Snorted D-bol? What an idiot!
Easy with the name calling and harsh language bro.
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While there is truth in what you say, if drugs were more accessible and less expensive, there would be less of these crimes committed by the users. Moreover, if there is no profit in drugs for the illegal distributors, they wouldn't be pushing them on folks and many if not most would be out of business, but then so would the DEA which might put a real crimp in the economy.
I doubt it...as I said a junkie is still a junkie, and they will still rob, steal, kill or whatever.
People rob for less than drugs. If hard drugs were made legal today, a junkie with no money is going to try and steal or rob to get the money for said drugs. Because, junkie (addict).
Alcohol is legal, and drunks still get drunk, you can't stop them. And you can take a drunk's license away, but you can't stop a drunk from buying a car.
Drugs are the perfect business model---offering another version of the sad depressive reality than many people have. Offering a dopomin or endorphin rush...people will pay, and pay dearly to be hooked.
the only problem with the Goverment getting involved, is that the government has made it out they are looking out for the best interests of the American public's health and wellbeing. Since we all know what what hard drugs do the mind and body, what moral justification does the goverment have in promoting such? It's dangerous hypocrisy.
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Wanna get bigger ???.....here's some gear.
Estrogen causing itchy nips??....just take an ai
hair falling out??,.....rogaine and finasteride
lethargic from dieting??....heres some adderall
can't sleep cause of tren???.....take a sleeping pill
EQ giving you anxiety??....take a benzo
pain......opiates
We're predisposed to self medicate. If you're like a lot of people and completely ignorant to what you put in your body, or simply just don't care and willing to sacrifice everything for a certain physique you will have problems.
spot on
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Brochacho busting out some strong work in this thread
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That's exactly why it's the number 1 site...NO BULLSHIT ABOUT THE BULLSHIT.
There needs to be more balance though, more positive contributions from people who are living the lifestyle as healthily as possible.
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Easy with the name calling and harsh language bro.
ROFL
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I've met people like this snorting d-bol dude as well... sold him a 50 mg dbol tab and he worked out 3 times that day and said he gained muscle over night ;D...impossible to argue with someone like this
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Dude at my gym got paid $10 to snort a 20mg of Dbol.
Needless to say he had a fantastic arm workout as well as being crowned the Gym Douchebag for the day.
Gh15 said he snorted raw Trebolone powder regulary. I remember one night when I was 14 years old, I was hanging out with 8 of my friends we were up real late and were all real bored we were just young teens and smoked some west coast Grade A super chronic but we were out that night there used to be this BP gas station by my friends house and for some reason the lights they had by the gas pumps would attract prayer mantises ,sometimes you would see big green paryer mantises so we all took the prayer mantis and put it in a little jar somebody had and when we got back to out friends house we were all crashing at we had no chronic and were bored so I made a bet with the guy whos house we were crashing at that if he smoked the prayer mantis we would pay him 5$ to smoke the whole bowl.
he agreed, so we grabbed a nice big glass pipe and squahed the prayer mantis in the bowl like it was weed and he took a hit of the prayer mantis and it was weird because it did smoke up more then I thought it would wich was nasty it smelled horrible, he took three hits and had to throw-up. Their was still half a bowl left so he took a few more fits and got sick again and then he refused to smoke anymore of it. I said he had to finish it to get paid but some of the other guys thought that 5 hits was enough plus the smell was getting bad.
prayer mantis smoke smells horrible incase you guys did not know-lol. anyway I broke his balls about how he wasn't getting paid till he finished the whole bowl but then I agreed to pay him the 5$ anyway it was the funniest shit, several of us were literally rolling on the ground laughing. I remember I started to get in pain i was laughing so hard my stomach started to hurt I was laughing so hard. anyway classic shit! something I will never forget. snorting dbol is pretty nasty but smoking a prayer mantis has to top pretty much everything. One of the funniest things I have ever seen.
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Narcotic use in bodybuilding seem to be very common.
Why do you think that is?
Are bodybuilders on a whole insecure people that dont value them selves?
Does it come from that it is a side effect from the gear market being illegal?
I've been into bodybuilding for 17 years and have noticed presription drugs that you find in a pharmacy, like benzodiazepines and opiates are used quite heavily as well as weed. Dorian Yates does not say no mary this he have said himself so this is nothing new. When I lived in amsterdam we trained at the same gym and his girlfriend then owned a whole strain of coffeeshops. He was a very good guy. Also (p.i.p) Ed van Amsterdam would do some to chill out every now and then. Marko Savolainen said speed ruined his career. I would never advocate people to use drugs though. It can be devastating and hard to balance.
I told you guys a few years ago xanax use and valium use was very high among bodybuilding, nubain is dead but guys are using xanax and other benzos to counteract Tren side effects and crushing up and doing rails with 30mg oxycodone tabs. I am doing the same shit but I get my drugs prescribed alot of these guys who are abusing rec drugs have no prescription. It is hard to get prescribed benzos and especially oxycodone. usually when you get prescribed xanax they want you to see a psychiatrist and get a mental health evaluation for your chart notes with a diagnoses saying you have anxiety and it is a bitch and for opiates you have to go get a MRI on whatever area hurts you and something has to show otherwise they will not write you anything. if a doctor does not have these things for your charts and writes you scheduled drugs they will get their license to write scheduled drugs taken away by their states healthboard. So the doctors def need a mental health evaluation by a professional and a MRI to show your pain. alot of guys just buy it from the blackmarket and abuse the shit out of the drugs wich in the end fucks it up for guys like me who really need those drugs.
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Gh15 said he snorted raw Trebolone powder regulary. I remember one night when I was 14 years old, I was hanging out with 8 of my friends we were up real late and were all real bored we were just young teens and smoked some west coast Grade A super chronic but we were out that night there used to be this BP gas station by my friends house and for some reason the lights they had by the gas pumps would attract prayer mantises ,sometimes you would see big green paryer mantises so we all took the prayer mantis and put it in a little jar somebody had and when we got back to out friends house we were all crashing at we had no chronic and were bored so I made a bet with the guy whos house we were crashing at that if he smoked the prayer mantis we would pay him 5$ to smoke the whole bowl.
he agreed, so we grabbed a nice big glass pipe and squahed the prayer mantis in the bowl like it was weed and he took a hit of the prayer mantis and it was weird because it did smoke up more then I thought it would wich was nasty it smelled horrible, he took three hits and had to throw-up. Their was still half a bowl left so he took a few more fits and got sick again and then he refused to smoke anymore of it. I said he had to finish it to get paid but some of the other guys thought that 5 hits was enough plus the smell was getting bad.
prayer mantis smoke smells horrible incase you guys did not know-lol. anyway I broke his balls about how he wasn't getting paid till he finished the whole bowl but then I agreed to pay him the 5$ anyway it was the funniest shit, several of us were literally rolling on the ground laughing. I remember I started to get in pain i was laughing so hard my stomach started to hurt I was laughing so hard. anyway classic shit! something I will never forget. snorting dbol is pretty nasty but smoking a prayer mantis has to top pretty much everything. One of the funniest things I have ever seen.
I believe that Praying Mantis smell is what they release when they sense danger.
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Wanna get bigger ???.....here's some gear.
Estrogen causing itchy nips??....just take an ai
hair falling out??,.....rogaine and finasteride
lethargic from dieting??....heres some adderall
can't sleep cause of tren???.....take a sleeping pill
EQ giving you anxiety??....take a benzo
pain......opiates
We're predisposed to self medicate. If you're like a lot of people and completely ignorant to what you put in your body, or simply just don't care and willing to sacrifice everything for a certain physique you will have problems.
This.
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One of the guys I knew with a great build was a maniac. Had has woman on all kinds of shit like winny. They would buy any drug that anyone had to sell.
He knew I was connected fairly well, and would bug me in the middle of sales, etc.
I had to switch from PT to sales because this guy fucked me over.
Had people doing G all day. There was this one super hot girl that passed out in the breakroom from that shit.