Narcotics use in bodybuilding

[NotMrAverage]

Narcotic use in bodybuilding seem to be very common.
Why do you think that is?
Are bodybuilders on a whole insecure people that dont value them selves?
Does it come from that it is a side effect from the gear market being illegal?
I've been into bodybuilding for 17 years and have noticed presription drugs that you find in a pharmacy, like benzodiazepines and opiates are used quite heavily as well as weed. Dorian Yates does not say no mary this he have said himself so this is nothing new. When I lived in amsterdam we trained at the same gym and his girlfriend then owned a whole strain of coffeeshops. He was a very good guy. Also (p.i.p) Ed van Amsterdam would do some to chill out every now and then. Marko Savolainen said speed ruined his career. I would never advocate people to use drugs though. It can be devastating and hard to balance.

[BigRo]

wtf is up with all these threads full of negativity towards bodybuilding. And this is supposed to be the webs no 1 bodybuilding forum?

[dustin]

I was blown away when I started seeing how much recs were abused in bodybuilding. I idolized all the big guys at the gym and then I'd see them crushing opiates and snorting them in the washroom or doing blow on the weekends and drinking gallons of booze. I knew they juiced, but I didn't think they trashed their bodies with recs. But now I'm a lot more privy and see that if you're willing to shove tons of needles in your body, taking a pill or having a drink is nothing.

It's really sad to see such a high level of abuse in this "sport". I don't care if people decide to do drugs from time to time, but the abuse is rampant.

[NotMrAverage]

Oh yes. This is the backdoor of bodybuilding...

[SmallPole]

it does seem logical though... all the shit you put into your body forces you to deal with a lot of side effects - not only physical, but also mental. some people are better are dealing with anxiety/ depression/ lack of purpose/ feeling of worthlessness, some are worse and wind up snorting opiates or whatever

even letting your estro/ prolactin levels go off handle may cause a lot of mental issues and i'd say that's bound to happen sooner or later to every juicer

[Borracho]

it does seem logical though... all the shit you put into your body forces you to deal with a lot of side effects - not only physical, but also mental. some people are better are dealing with anxiety/ depression/ lack of purpose/ feeling of worthlessness, some are worse and wind up snorting opiates or whatever

even letting your estro/ prolactin levels go off handle may cause a lot of mental issues and i'd say that's bound to happen sooner or later to every juicer

Wanna get bigger .....here's some gear.

Estrogen causing itchy nips??....just take an ai

hair falling out??,.....rogaine and finasteride

lethargic from dieting??....heres some adderall

can't sleep cause of tren???.....take a sleeping pill

EQ giving you anxiety??....take a benzo

pain......opiates


We're predisposed to self medicate. If you're like a lot of people and completely ignorant to what you put in your body, or simply just don't care and willing to sacrifice everything for a certain physique you will have problems.

[benchmstr]

I take muscle relaxers everyday

I take 1-2 every night due to a cracked disk....shits called tizanidine...I I feel like a complete douchbag taking it..but I'm trying to hold off that surgery for a while because I just had a surgery and want to wait a little longer before letting them cut me again..I have another one I'm suppose to take during the day but I can't talk myself into using it no matter how bad the pain

I just don't see how people go out of their way to get strung out on this shit

Bench

[WalterWhite]

Wanna get bigger .....here's some gear.

Estrogen causing itchy nips??....just take an ai

hair falling out??,.....rogaine and finasteride

lethargic from dieting??....heres some adderall

can't sleep cause of tren???.....take a sleeping pill

EQ giving you anxiety??....take a benzo

pain......opiates


We're predisposed to self medicate. If you're like a lot of people and completely ignorant to what you put in your body, or simply just don't care and willing to sacrifice everything for a certain physique you will have problems.

Great reply and spot on.

[benchmstr]

Great reply and spot on.

Couldn't agree more

Bench

[The Revelation]

Wanna get bigger .....here's some gear.

Estrogen causing itchy nips??....just take an ai

hair falling out??,.....rogaine and finasteride

lethargic from dieting??....heres some adderall

can't sleep cause of tren???.....take a sleeping pill

EQ giving you anxiety??....take a benzo

pain......opiates


We're predisposed to self medicate. If you're like a lot of people and completely ignorant to what you put in your body, or simply just don't care and willing to sacrifice everything for a certain physique you will have problems.

awesome.

its a slippery slope. like you said well im running tren and cant sleep so i'll use clonazapam to help me relax. i'll use zanax to sleep etc. pretty soon your using a cocktail of meds to offest the effects of the anabolics your using.

that being said every walk of life has its users. coke, speed, pot, optiates, m and g on the weekends. why should bbers be any different? maybe its amplified because bbing is 'supposed' to be a healthy pursuit, which for many it is about health and vitailty, but for others its about partying and getting laid.

[Las Vegas]

wtf is up with all these threads full of negativity towards bodybuilding. And this is supposed to be the webs no 1 bodybuilding forum?

That's exactly why it's the number 1 site...NO BULLSHIT ABOUT THE BULLSHIT.

[WOOO]

[Nomad]

Wanna get bigger .....here's some gear.

Estrogen causing itchy nips??....just take an ai

hair falling out??,.....rogaine and finasteride

lethargic from dieting??....heres some adderall

can't sleep cause of tren???.....take a sleeping pill

EQ giving you anxiety??....take a benzo

pain......opiates


We're predisposed to self medicate. If you're like a lot of people and completely ignorant to what you put in your body, or simply just don't care and willing to sacrifice everything for a certain physique you will have problems.

This mofo broke it the fuck down.

[ESFitness]

narcotics use is prevelant everywhere.

bodybuilding happens to be included in "everywhere"

narcotics use in the entertainment industry. (booze, coke, speed, opiates, weed, benzos)

narcotics use in professional sports. (booze, coke, opiates, weed)

narcotics use in business professionals. (booze, coke, benzos)

narcotics use in stay in stay-at-home moms (booze, benzos, opiates, prescription stimulants)

narcotics use in manual labor (booze, opiates, speed, weed)

ect ect ect....

[Roger Bacon]

Why do you think that is?

No clue... lol

[Parker]

Wanna get bigger .....here's some gear.

Estrogen causing itchy nips??....just take an ai

hair falling out??,.....rogaine and finasteride

lethargic from dieting??....heres some adderall

can't sleep cause of tren???.....take a sleeping pill

EQ giving you anxiety??....take a benzo

pain......opiates


We're predisposed to self medicate. If you're like a lot of people and completely ignorant to what you put in your body, or simply just don't care and willing to sacrifice everything for a certain physique you will have problems.

Or just deal with it...

[NelsonMuntz]

No clue... lol

LOL

[WalterWhite]

narcotics use is prevelant everywhere.

bodybuilding happens to be included in "everywhere"

narcotics use in the entertainment industry. (booze, coke, speed, opiates, weed, benzos)

narcotics use in professional sports. (booze, coke, opiates, weed)

narcotics use in business professionals. (booze, coke, benzos)

narcotics use in stay in stay-at-home moms (booze, benzos, opiates, prescription stimulants)

narcotics use in manual labor (booze, opiates, speed, weed)

ect ect ect....

I can vouch for the corporate world.  Had a six figure sales rep who was a coke head die from an overdose (trained and ran so hid it well and had a huge house, wife and young kids) and knew a VP of sales for another company who met the same fate. Seemed like everyone I worked with drank, ate like crap and were on meds for one thing or another.  Stress in high level business is insane and you pay dearly for the large paychecks.

[Parker]

narcotics use is prevelant everywhere.

bodybuilding happens to be included in "everywhere"

narcotics use in the entertainment industry. (booze, coke, speed, opiates, weed, benzos)

narcotics use in professional sports. (booze, coke, opiates, weed)

narcotics use in business professionals. (booze, coke, benzos)

narcotics use in stay in stay-at-home moms (booze, benzos, opiates, prescription stimulants)

narcotics use in manual labor (booze, opiates, speed, weed)

ect ect ect....

We are a nation of addicts..literally zombies... Unite States of Addicted America

[Roger Bacon]

LOL

haha!

[ESFitness]

We are a nation of addicts..literally zombies... Unite States of Addicted America

always have been.

I worked for the department of tourism, which controlled the state 'archive unit'.. which would document/archive old documents, censes records/cards (back in 1907 for example, when a guy would go door to door and have you fill out a census card), and newspapers from the 1800's, ect...

in those newspapers, they'd advertise cocaine and heroin/morphine 'tonic's, and in the 20's you could get prescription 'brandy'.... women would drink the 'tonic's all day long while men drank whiskey, ect...

nothing's changed.

look at opium in china, coca in south America, khat in Africa, ect...

[Parker]

always have been.

I worked for the department of tourism, which controlled the state 'archive unit'.. which would document/archive old documents, censes records/cards (back in 1907 for example, when a guy would go door to door and have you fill out a census card), and newspapers from the 1800's, ect...

in those newspapers, they'd advertise cocaine and heroin/morphine 'tonic's, and in the 20's you could get prescription 'brandy'.... women would drink the 'tonic's all day long while men drank whiskey, ect...

nothing's changed.

look at opium in china, coca in south America, khat in Africa, ect...

Sure, but not like it is today...
literally can look at the waitress/waiter/servers hands, fingers and arms and see if they are shooting up, or you can look at their mouths to see the slack from using crack and other drugs, or meth mouth. You can see this in the cashiers at the local store, smell the weed everywhere you go. Kids know that their parents are druggies, and the downward spiral of their relationships. DUIs all over the place, and advertisements for drugs on TV---for depression, bipolar, etc. Have a anxiety, need muscle relaxers? Neighborhoods decimated by crack, heroin---come to Baltimore. The local drug dealers are nothing but helping to destroy the communities for their own gains.
Drug prevention or getting the ourts involved, drug this and drug that. War on Drugs, with help with putting millions in the pockets of the fed and local governments.
Addiction to TV---or anything that gives that "high".

Of course there was the Cocaine Crazed Negroes that were the headlines of the South back in the early 20th century, which now has become "PCP Crazed ____" in the 21st century.

[ESFitness]

Sure, but not like it is today...
literally can look at the waitress/waiter/servers hands, fingers and arms and see if they are shooting up, or you can look at their mouths to see the slack from using crack and other drugs, or meth mouth. You can see this in the cashiers at the local store, smell the weed everywhere you go. Kids know that their parents are druggies, and the downward spiral of their relationships. DUIs all over the place, and advertisements for drugs on TV---for depression, bipolar, etc. Have a anxiety, need muscle relaxers? Neighborhoods decimated by crack, heroin---come to Baltimore. The local drug dealers are nothing but helping to destroy the communities for their own gains.
Drug prevention or getting the ourts involved, drug this and drug that. War on Drugs, with help with putting millions in the pockets of the fed and local governments.
Addiction to TV---or anything that gives that "high".

Of course there was the Cocaine Crazed Negroes that were the headlines of the South back in the early 20th century, which now has become "PCP Crazed ____" in the 21st century.

legalize it all, and make it free so at least the junkies won't steal and rob for their addiction... and lower the "duty to flee" requirement for "self defense".

natural selection will thin the heard.

[Primemuscle]

I can vouch for the corporate world.  Had a six figure sales rep who was a coke head die from an overdose (trained and ran so hid it well and had a huge house, wife and young kids) and knew a VP of sales for another company who met the same fate. Seemed like everyone I worked with drank, ate like crap and were on meds for one thing or another.  Stress in high level business is insane and you pay dearly for the large paychecks.

Never tried Coke and never will. Makes people crazy. I am already that....I post on Getbig and suffer much abuse here. That is plenty crazy enough. 

[Parker]

legalize it all, and make it free so at least the junkies won't steal and rob for their addiction... and lower the "duty to flee" requirement for "self defense".

natural selection will thin the heard.

A junkie is still a junkie, and a junkie will still steal for their addiction whether it's legal or not.
If it costs money, and a junkie runs out of money, then they will steal from whoever, and pawn the goods to get money. They will get into the scrap business (as key to note, scrappers tend to be opiate abusers).

If the drug dispenser store closes, a junkie wants their fix now, not later...and then they will try to break into the store. Either steal from siad store or rob the place and go to one that is open. A 24 hour dispenser you may suggest? Well, they run out of supply...which means a junkie may try and rob the place and go to another.

Bottom line, many are junkies because due to the break down (just like gangs) of the family and the promotion that drugs are a way of "re creating the reality that they desire", it's not surprising that when in times of economic hardship people tend to turn to towards drugs and booze to make the pain go away (pain being the mental and physical anguish).