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MRI and Jay have confirmed that he now has a tear in his right bicep. I noticed his right arm is looking a lot smaller lately, and he confirmed this is why. First Ronnie, now Jay. I thought Jay would have less injuries bc he trained smarter?
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Doing machine preacher curls is serious business
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MRI and Jay have confirmed that he now has a tear in his right bicep. I noticed his right arm is looking a lot smaller lately, and he confirmed this is why. First Ronnie, now Jay. I thought Jay would have less injuries bc he trained smarter?
Damn dude, sorry you have to hear about this news. Must be tearing you up inside that Jay tore his bicep.
My condolences.
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Damn dude, sorry you have to hear about this news. Must be tearing you up inside that Jay tore his bicep.
My condolences.
Thanks for your concern, it means a lot coming from u.
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well, one wrong sudden movement when not properly wamred up and it can happen to everyone.
little bit too much ego on the lift and boom.
this is not a healthy sport, this is vanity galore and ppl would eat diarhea if it made them look better in exchange
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Doing machine preacher curls is serious business
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Explain please.
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well, one wrong sudden movement when not properly wamred up and it can happen to everyone.
little bit too much ego on the lift and boom.
this is not a healthy sport, this is vanity galore and ppl would eat diarhea if it made them look better in exchange
My buddy tore his when he decided to do his first set with 135. Warm up is key!
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this is not a healthy sport, this is vanity galore and ppl would eat diarhea if it made them look better in exchange
Does any diarrhea work or do I need some special stuff?
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How? He doesn't train hard or heavy enough to break a sweat let alone tear a bicep. But I have a theory.
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PIP sweet prince
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How? He doesn't train hard or heavy enough to break a sweat let alone tear a bicep. But I have a theory.
please share this theory :)
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please share this theory :)
x2
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He's falling apart.
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training with heavy weights rep after rep is completely unnatural to begin with, then add the rest that bodybuilders do to themselves day in and day out
Strength training is an abuse of survival mechanisms in the body, that put tremendous taxation, just because the body can handle it doesn't mean it's good or natural.
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Explain please.
The joke was that his training revolves around mostly machines and pretty light weight
Him tearing something is a bit intriguing
Now Ronnie and Dorian I can understand
Hell even branch and his style of training u would think he would tear something but most of his injuries involve falling down stairs and slipping on ice
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training with heavy weights rep after rep is completely unnatural to begin with, then add the rest that bodybuilders do to themselves day in and day out
Strength training is an abuse of survival mechanisms in the body, that put tremendous taxation, just because the body can handle it doesn't mean it's good or natural.
true, all the way true.
but with deskjobs it's good to get moving and the gym is much less injury ridden than ballsports and running is also completely unnatural and abuse of survival mechanisms
imagine in what scenario the body would have to run for hours several times a week?
walking is the schizznit though
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This is very upsetting to me. I had hoped Jay would compete again in 2014.
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His right arm was looking weird 8 weeks before that show (and before he pumped it full of junk again the final few weeks).
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tearing anything is pretty easy after 15years of training. most bicep tears happen with deadlifts, in what I've seen or known ppl who've torn them.... triceps getting torn during back movements as well.. levrone tearing his long head with lat pulldowns...... deadlifting 520 for a triple the other day had my tricep pulling a little, then 630 for a triple I was afraid I was gonna pull my tricep off my shoulder (was dehydrated as well).
guys tearing calves stepping out of their truck... guys tearing quads stepping in a pot-hole, ect...
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Probably my biggest fear in the gym. I had a partial tear years ago and it still bothers me with certain exercises, grips and angles.
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Doing machine preacher curls is serious business
The bottom of preachers put a lot of stress on the distal tendon. I would avoid full rom.
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How can oil 'tear'?
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How can oil 'tear'?
That's a possibility. Scar tissue is prone to tearing.
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How can oil 'tear'?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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Is there a pciture? usually your arm will turn all black and blue. I don;t think I have ever tore a bicep but I have felt close to it but never did my bicep turn black and blue,or does it just look all fucked up sometimes and not turn black and blue. All the tears I have seen the muscle has turned black and blue but then you see older guys or guys who have been lifting along time and they look like they have tore some muscles but they always claim they havn't. Is it just age that might cause your arms to appear like you have tore a bicep at some point? Take gaspari for example.
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The muscles get less supple with age and steroids doesn't help anything. Using drugs increases the strength of the muscles faster than the tendons can adapt. Deadlifts are well known for ripping biceps especially the one supination hand that is using the curl grip. Much safer to use a two hand pronation grip even if you have to use straps. Preacher curls are another bicep tendon wrecker. Jerking pull ups in any form. If you can't do these with control and you're older juicing you are looking for trouble. Reverse grip barbell rows puts the bicep in a position to tear too. The tears I'm referring to here is when the tendon that attaches the muscle to the bone is ripped. You can also have a tear of the muscle that for most the body heals it self.
Many have partial tears that heal quickly with surgery. I had a complete tear that put me out of heavy lifting for 6 months. My bicep rolled up to my shoulder because it was completely detached from the insertion or distal tendon.
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too many needles
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tearing anything is pretty easy after 15years of training. most bicep tears happen with deadlifts, in what I've seen or known ppl who've torn them.... triceps getting torn during back movements as well.. levrone tearing his long head with lat pulldowns...... deadlifting 520 for a triple the other day had my tricep pulling a little, then 630 for a triple I was afraid I was gonna pull my tricep off my shoulder (was dehydrated as well).
guys tearing calves stepping out of their truck... guys tearing quads stepping in a pot-hole, ect...
I popped a tendon in my calf getting out of my car to see somebody!
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tearing anything is pretty easy after 15years of training. most bicep tears happen with deadlifts, in what I've seen or known ppl who've torn them.... triceps getting torn during back movements as well.. levrone tearing his long head with lat pulldowns...... deadlifting 520 for a triple the other day had my tricep pulling a little, then 630 for a triple I was afraid I was gonna pull my tricep off my shoulder (was dehydrated as well).
guys tearing calves stepping out of their truck... guys tearing quads stepping in a pot-hole, ect...
Lol no way, does that really happen? I figured people like Branch used excuses like that to cover up his shitty training style
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please share this theory :)
Obama is the reason
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It's the wear and tear.. Being 45 I have had mris ect that show degenerative changes in the tendons.. It's with age and repeated stress.. You all will get the same thing as you age and keep lifting.. Dan duchaine was correct when he said that those who are heavily chemically enhanced should rain with higher reps and shorter rest periods.. This limits the stress on the tendons and connective tissue.. But egos are abound..
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in other news, tbombz tore his anal sphincter yesterday. It was not a bodybuilding related injury.
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The doctor says your organs are shot..."Might I suggest the ole' tore up right bicep trick" so you have a reason on why your shrinking up...
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His right arm was looking weird 8 weeks before that show (and before he pumped it full of junk again the final few weeks).
You mean it was pumped full of lactic acid from tough workouts? True, but that's pretty normal.
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a bodybuilder only has so many miles before he starts breaking down.
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Obama is the reason
maybe there's a section in obamacare which allows people to fix biceps that were injured from too much lactic acid, as seems to be the case for Cutler.
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Lol no way, does that really happen? I figured people like Branch used excuses like that to cover up his shitty training style
training partner of mine tore his quad when he tripped in a pot hole on a street in London at the Olympics a couple years ago (or a year ago? whenever it was)..
a client of mine told his calve stepping out of his truck to get gas after a leg session. (truck wasn't even lifted, just had 33's).
another guy tore his pec picking up his 3yr old daughter.
i think i know more people who've torn muscles OUTSIDE the gym than INSIDE.... except biceps, those usually pop with deadlifts.
i did have to call 911 for a guy who dislocated his hip on the leg press a month ago though. lol... dude sat there for 45mins before i walked by to tell me he couldn't move and needed an ambulance.. he was embarrassed.. old school dude too, about 50yrs old, 30+yrs experience training... no frail old man or newbie.
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what is your theory coach?
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Yet Dexter Jackson is injury free after 25 yrs of training.
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Yet Dexter Jackson is injury free after 25 yrs of training.
Than why was he training with an elbow sleeve on his left arm?
(this year's 'O prep)
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The joke was that his training revolves around mostly machines and pretty light weight
Him tearing something is a bit intriguing
Now Ronnie and Dorian I can understand
Hell even branch and his style of training u would think he would tear something but most of his injuries involve falling down stairs and slipping on ice
there a guy who tore his biceps and chest right off in our gym and hes total twink, no muscle, half rom 80lbs bench-monster, yet he still managed to rip it right off,lol, not partial tear, but full blown detached tendons from bone.
all relative.
i can def see how if someone is shredded, and the pros are relatively shredded all year, comes to gym from cold weather outside and warms up not so carefuly, how it can happen any second.
everyone who has been very lean knows this weird feeling,when the joint feel extremly dry, as if its bone on bone, but the bones feel like made of steel.
steroids increase strnght of the muscle relatively too much for what tendons can handle, so its always a bit like a time bomb.at any time.
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what is your theory coach?
He's a republican, it's going to take him a long time to give an "honest" answer.
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He's a republican, it's going to take him a long time to give an "honest" answer.
You're lib and you can't even tell the truth in that post.
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You're lib and you can't even tell the truth in that post.
:D
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Than why was he training with an elbow sleeve on his left arm?
(this year's 'O prep)
He said that he has issues with his elbows.
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Good form. Moderate weight. Who would have thought?
AAS without GH, probably. Wear and tear over the years, yup. Too much rom? me thinks. Look at that last rep before his bicep curls up to his shoulder... deep.
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Good form. Moderate weight. Who would have thought?
AAS with GH, probably. Wear and tear over the years, yup. Too much rom? me thinks. Look at that last rep before his bicep curls... deep.
I can watch the crazy massacre and gore vids on liveleak but i get the chills and palmsweat when i click videos where I know there is a muscle tear ??? lol
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Good form. Moderate weight. Who would have thought?
AAS without GH, probably. Wear and tear over the years, yup. Too much rom? me thinks. Look at that last rep before his bicep curls up to his shoulder... deep.
Odd, and Flex Wheeler advocates a full range of motion when doing biceps, especially when doing preacher curls.
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We dont give a damn.
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ouch
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Jay confirmed on MD forums himself.
http://forums.musculardevelopment.com/showthread.php/137928-A-Jay-in-the-life-UPDATED?p=3549621&viewfull=1#post3549621
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i never want to tear any muscles
how do i do this?
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Yet Dexter Jackson is injury free after 25 yrs of training.
Dude Dex is HURTING.... I talked to him at a guest posing and he was saying how beat up he was from the Olympia prep. Dex's joints hurt just like the rest of us.
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Dude Dex is HURTING.... I talked to him at a guest posing and he was saying how beat up he was from the Olympia prep. Dex's joints hurt just like the rest of us.
regargless, no visible tears and a supreme physique
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i never want to tear any muscles
how do i do this?
Don't lift like a dick. Take the time to warm up.
I was trying to show up the liars on bodybuilding.com and was pushing heavy, heavy weight when I first started juicing. I felt invincible but always took the time to warm up. Was benching 350lbs, racked it. Dropped to 225lbs and did a couple sets close to failure. Was going to one more set despite my right pec feeling a bit odd and suddenly it popped! I freaked out but there was nothing bad. There was a tiny bit of redness in my chest, but I still feel it to this day. I struggle under 135lbs. I've benched 225lbs again but it felt sketchy as fuck. I will never flat bench again. Too sketch!
Did the same thing with my bicep too. Was curling with the barbell and felt a big time TWANG and my arm went numb. I stretched it all out and just finished by doing a super light pump workout and slowly stretched things to check my range of motion. I think I got off super lucky. Those could have been torn body parts forever. No need to lift ultra heavy and stupid for aesthetics. Nothing stands out more than a busted up muscle tear.
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Don't lift like a dick. Take the time to warm up.
I was trying to show up the liars on bodybuilding.com and was pushing heavy, heavy weight when I first started juicing. I felt invincible but always took the time to warm up. Was benching 350lbs, racked it. Dropped to 225lbs and did a couple sets close to failure. Was going to one more set despite my right pec feeling a bit odd and suddenly it popped! I freaked out but there was nothing bad. There was a tiny bit of redness in my chest, but I still feel it to this day. I struggle under 135lbs. I've benched 225lbs again but it felt sketchy as fuck. I will never flat bench again. Too sketch!
Did the same thing with my bicep too. Was curling with the barbell and felt a big time TWANG and my arm went numb. I stretched it all out and just finished by doing a super light pump workout and slowly stretched things to check my range of motion. I think I got off super lucky. Those could have been torn body parts forever. No need to lift ultra heavy and stupid for aesthetics. Nothing stands out more than a busted up muscle tear.
i lift real controlled and not too heavy
hope i stay injury free or i'll be on suicide watch
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Dude Dex is HURTING.... I talked to him at a guest posing and he was saying how beat up he was from the Olympia prep. Dex's joints hurt just like the rest of us.
I was actually quoting what he "said" on the FB Flex update...
His joints hurt, but does he have torn biceps,triceps, lats, quads?
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i never want to tear any muscles
how do i do this?
ask Pieere Vandersteen for advice .........
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Don't lift like a dick. Take the time to warm up.
I was trying to show up the liars on bodybuilding.com and was pushing heavy, heavy weight when I first started juicing. I felt invincible but always took the time to warm up. Was benching 350lbs, racked it. Dropped to 225lbs and did a couple sets close to failure. Was going to one more set despite my right pec feeling a bit odd and suddenly it popped! I freaked out but there was nothing bad. There was a tiny bit of redness in my chest, but I still feel it to this day. I struggle under 135lbs. I've benched 225lbs again but it felt sketchy as fuck. I will never flat bench again. Too sketch!
Did the same thing with my bicep too. Was curling with the barbell and felt a big time TWANG and my arm went numb. I stretched it all out and just finished by doing a super light pump workout and slowly stretched things to check my range of motion. I think I got off super lucky. Those could have been torn body parts forever. No need to lift ultra heavy and stupid for aesthetics. Nothing stands out more than a busted up muscle tear.
I felt that on the big 3 I needed to warm up and pyramid up to my work weight prior to hitting the really heavy weight.
So If I could do 365 x 5 on a good day, I'd pyramid up to 315. Do 315 x 5, 335 x 5, then go for 365. At least 10 sets and 30 minutes of "warming up".
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Jay confirmed on MD forums himself.
http://forums.musculardevelopment.com/showthread.php/137928-A-Jay-in-the-life-UPDATED?p=3549621&viewfull=1#post3549621
Didn't u read my initial post. I don't lie on here like some.
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He said that he has issues with his elbows.
When someone needs elbow sleeves to control the pain, then I call it an injury.
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Dude Dex is HURTING.... I talked to him at a guest posing and he was saying how beat up he was from the Olympia prep. Dex's joints hurt just like the rest of us.
exactly, just bc a tear didnt happen yet to many doesnt mean theyre not on all kinds of pain meds all the time.
and theres partial tears which one doesnt even notice until its too late.
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exactly, just bc a tear didnt happen yet to many doesnt mean theyre not on all kinds of pain meds all the time.
and theres partial tears which one doesnt even notice until its too late.
I understated how much dex said he was hurting. He said it was BAD. Said he was taking some time off "to let Injuries heal up."
To analbollocks: Muscle tears are the only injury visible from the outside. He could have double glenoid labrum tears, tendinitis of every insertion/origin in his shoulder, Acromion bursitis, fried meniscus in his knees, and let's not even discuss the health of his spine from years of pounding away at it. Dex has no muscle tears (that we know of); that's a better statement than "dex is injury free."
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exactly, just bc a tear didnt happen yet to many doesnt mean theyre not on all kinds of pain meds all the time.
and theres partial tears which one doesnt even notice until its too late.
dex had a bad nubain problem back the late 90's early 2000. surprised the hell out of me... besides cormier, I didn't know of many black guys who used bain. most were coke-guys.... never saw any 'tracks' on him, then again you never saw any tracks on CT either.... but dex's teeth look suspect though too. (as far as I know, dex got off in 2000)
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dex had a bad nubain problem back the late 90's early 2000. surprised the hell out of me... besides cormier, I didn't know of many black guys who used bain. most were coke-guys.... never saw any 'tracks' on him, then again you never saw any tracks on CT either.... but dex's teeth look suspect though too. (as far as I know, dex got off in 2000)
ESF: what was the deal with Nubain back in the day? Wy did Bodybuilders gravitate towards it so much vs pills or anything else. I'm 25 so I missed this era.
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ESF: what was the deal with Nubain back in the day? Wy did Bodybuilders gravitate towards it so much vs pills or anything else. I'm 25 so I missed this era.
It is very strong and addictive, just like morphine. They could train pain free and it made them feel really good.
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Partial tear????
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Has Jay released any pics of the massive black and blue down the arm yet. People are usually black and blue all the way down the arm. It must look pretty bad...
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Partial tear????
Imaginary bicep syndrome..
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He is toast.
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still top 6 in the world, despite the injuries.
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dex had a bad nubain problem back the late 90's early 2000. surprised the hell out of me... besides cormier, I didn't know of many black guys who used bain. most were coke-guys.... never saw any 'tracks' on him, then again you never saw any tracks on CT either.... but dex's teeth look suspect though too. (as far as I know, dex got off in 2000)
As in the Trainer?
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neuropathy?
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i never want to tear any muscles
how do i do this?
You don't want to? why not?
WoooSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH
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You don't want to? why not?
WoooSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH
He abandoned his girl and child in pursuit of bicep gains. If one got torn, he's kind of blown it.
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still top 6 in the world, despite the injuries.
So?
Franco Columbu was number 1 in the world in 1981, despite injured from waist down.
WooooooSSSHHHHHHH
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well, one wrong sudden movement when not properly wamred up and it can happen to everyone.
little bit too much ego on the lift and boom.
this is not a healthy sport, this is vanity galore and ppl would eat diarhea if it made them look better in exchange
Is this why they tear themselves apart doing kid's weight? Cmon, I call bullshit on all these "tears", it's site injections and synthol gone bad, just like Bostin.
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So?
Franco Columbu was number 1 in the world in 1981, despite injured from waist down.
WooooooSSSHHHHHHH
Pet Boys Cock ranking other males on how they look from the waist down if you catch my drift :o
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Pet Boys Cock ranking other males on how they look from the waist down if you catch my drift :o
Hahaha 'Pet Boys Cock' brutal
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Most likely it was from site injections. Anytime you deposit extra fluid in a muscle through an injection, it increases the internal pressure that the muscle is subjected to. Inject in the wrong spot or too frequently and then when you get in the gym and start pumping blood in the muscle the volume becomes too much and the muscle tears in order to relieve the pressure it is under. Fluid, oil and blood have to exit the muscle someway very fast and a partial tear is normally how it happens.
Don't fool yourself. Constantly injecting anything in the muscle will weaken it and form scar tissue.
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Most likely it was from site injections. Anytime you deposit extra fluid in a muscle through an injection, it increases the internal pressure that the muscle is subjected to. Inject in the wrong spot or too frequently and then when you get in the gym and start pumping blood in the muscle the volume becomes too much and the muscle tears in order to relieve the pressure it is under. Fluid, oil and blood have to exit the muscle someway very fast and a partial tear is normally how it happens.
Don't fool yourself. Constantly injecting anything in the muscle will weaken it and form scar tissue.
8),good explanation.
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I felt that on the big 3 I needed to warm up and pyramid up to my work weight prior to hitting the really heavy weight.
So If I could do 365 x 5 on a good day, I'd pyramid up to 315. Do 315 x 5, 335 x 5, then go for 365. At least 10 sets and 30 minutes of "warming up".
Exact same for me. Now I do about three or four warm up sets, pyramid up but max reps are never before about 8 reps. No need to go lower.
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Most likely it was from site injections. Anytime you deposit extra fluid in a muscle through an injection, it increases the internal pressure that the muscle is subjected to. Inject in the wrong spot or too frequently and then when you get in the gym and start pumping blood in the muscle the volume becomes too much and the muscle tears in order to relieve the pressure it is under. Fluid, oil and blood have to exit the muscle someway very fast and a partial tear is normally how it happens.
Don't fool yourself. Constantly injecting anything in the muscle will weaken it and form scar tissue.
I'm pretty sure Jay's denied using oil, so unless any of us has proof, we can't doubt the man at his word.
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ESF: what was the deal with Nubain back in the day? Wy did Bodybuilders gravitate towards it so much vs pills or anything else. I'm 25 so I missed this era.
why?
because it was supposed to be non-addictive and harmless. in our minds, it wasn't like we were using a typical 'recreational drug' or getting high like some loser on oxycontin or vicodin.... but eventually we all fell into the trap, and learned after about a month of daily use, we found out quickly it was addictive and it did get you 'high'.. at least at first... then after a while the 'high' was gone and we just had to keep doing it to avoid withdrawl.
I was a straight-edge kid in high school.. NEVER drank and despised the pot-heads. always thought of myself as an athlete, and that's not what athletes did.
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As in the Trainer?
nono.. as in craig titus. lol.. not fletcher.
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;)
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I dont care time for him to give it up.
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Most likely it was from site injections. Anytime you deposit extra fluid in a muscle through an injection, it increases the internal pressure that the muscle is subjected to. Inject in the wrong spot or too frequently and then when you get in the gym and start pumping blood in the muscle the volume becomes too much and the muscle tears in order to relieve the pressure it is under. Fluid, oil and blood have to exit the muscle someway very fast and a partial tear is normally how it happens.
Don't fool yourself. Constantly injecting anything in the muscle will weaken it and form scar tissue.
Bicep injections are awful anyway just with gear.
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Pet Boys Cock ranking other males on how they look from the waist down if you catch my drift :o
I'm not ranking a male body. I'm just reminding that Columbu won't the O in 81' with no legs, if by "waist down" first thing you picture is a COCK then you're in he wrong board........
........or maybe not.
Woooossshhhhhhhh
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I'm not ranking a male body. I'm just reminding that Columbu won't the O in 81' with no legs, if by "waist down" first thing you picture is a COCK then you're in he wrong board........
........or maybe not.
Woooossshhhhhhhh
Hey bro no hard feelings I don't really care for Franco that much anyways, I've just been waiting for the opportunity to call you "Pet Boys Cock". I'm sure you understand.
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I've had issues many times with my muscle strength increasing too quickly for my tendons
happens every time I go back on
if I've learned anything it's the importance of warming up
I also don't max out on deads anymore - instead I save them for the end of my back workout so I don't need to go very heavy