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Title: Simeon Panda
Post by: hench on November 03, 2013, 12:42:06 PM
6'1", 230lbs, Natural pro, Muscelmania europe 2013 winner.
Is this the ideal pussy pulling physique?
Buchanan esque waistline, arnold pose duplicated.
Fella has some serious width just standing there!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BVfhPLTIAAAOv65.jpg:large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BXn8hInIgAANPBB.jpg:large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BTebIxSIMAAtGJm.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: Parker on November 03, 2013, 12:44:22 PM
Wider than Heath...
Funny how he has that nonchalant attitude on his face.
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 03, 2013, 12:45:58 PM
Good to see the mid-range physique a natural can achieve.  Plus he doesnt have to bend over to tie his otomix. 
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: Kwon_2 on November 03, 2013, 01:10:37 PM
6'1", 230lbs, Natural pro, Muscelmania europe 2013 winner.
Is this the ideal pussy pulling physique?
Buchanan esque waistline, arnold pose duplicated.
Fella has some serious width just standing there!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BVfhPLTIAAAOv65.jpg:large)

Sure this Panda-fellow isn't gay? :D

He sure loves to pose with his friends in the lockerrooms!

(http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/533064_540773332619771_688129512_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: The Scott on November 03, 2013, 01:20:42 PM
What's with the angry poop in the butt faces on these two guys?  "Natural"?

As natural as buttsex with men. 
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: SmallPole on November 03, 2013, 01:27:04 PM
amazing what you can achieve with the right genetics, hard work and some amino acids pre-workout

very good everyday natural physique, my goal body in three years as soon as i get my hands on the new cutler line of supps
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: Ronnie Rep on November 03, 2013, 01:29:29 PM
6'1", 230lbs, Natural pro, Muscelmania europe 2013 winner.
Is this the ideal pussy pulling physique?
Buchanan esque waistline, arnold pose duplicated.
Fella has some serious width just standing there!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BVfhPLTIAAAOv65.jpg:large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BXn8hInIgAANPBB.jpg:large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BTebIxSIMAAtGJm.jpg:large)
Great, physique natural ::)!
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: hench on November 03, 2013, 02:30:25 PM
There were two comments I was waiting for, "wider than heath" and "as natural as.." never disappointed on getbig  ;D
I wonder what is the natural limit without any peds...

What's with the angry poop in the butt faces on these two guys?  "Natural"?

As natural as buttsex with men. 
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: a_pupil on November 03, 2013, 02:39:46 PM
this can't be real life. panda fella has the perfect physique
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: hench on November 03, 2013, 02:45:41 PM
lats need to be quite a bit more visible from the front, very high.
this can't be real life. panda fella has the perfect physique
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: Da Freak on November 03, 2013, 02:45:54 PM
great physique! pulls pussy for sure.
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: WOOO on November 03, 2013, 02:49:22 PM
natural
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Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: _aj_ on November 03, 2013, 04:41:27 PM
Good attainable everyday natural look... ::)
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: Costanza on November 03, 2013, 04:44:35 PM
Simon Panda rattling the jimmies of haters.
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: Sam on November 03, 2013, 04:53:21 PM
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UT72dG7KG5k/TR46nGEJ6mI/AAAAAAAAAGQ/FBIaMoj6tBc/s1600/hilarious-jokes-funny-panda.jpg)
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: tommywishbone on November 03, 2013, 05:11:07 PM
 :)
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: The Revelation on November 03, 2013, 05:28:57 PM

great everyday build easy to maintain without a ton of gear.

Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: WOOO on November 03, 2013, 05:48:14 PM
i wonder what panda tastes like? probably shitty
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: phatboii on November 03, 2013, 07:39:50 PM
Must be the sweet potatoes  ::)
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: TheShape on November 03, 2013, 07:44:28 PM
Natural, no. Good physique? Yes. Also he looks like he's 2 Heaths wide!  :o
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: 240 is Back on November 03, 2013, 07:51:16 PM
any competition pics?    I love a good debate/discussion... so I'll be the sole voice to say maybe he isn't on the gas.  At 6 foot 1, with that frame, he SHOULD be 180 or 190 pounds without lifting.  Toss in 4-5 years of consistent lifting, supps, eating a ton, and the fact he doesn't look "ripped" in those pics and 230 may be a stretch, they're at a flattering angle, and those arms and legs are clearly skinny by pro standards...

I dunno... I expect to see delts and quads way bigger if he's on gear.  all packed with receptors and whatnot... those shoulders and quads say natty to me.

(http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/533064_540773332619771_688129512_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: Shockwave on November 03, 2013, 08:05:03 PM
any competition pics?    I love a good debate/discussion... so I'll be the sole voice to say maybe he isn't on the gas.  At 6 foot 1, with that frame, he SHOULD be 180 or 190 pounds without lifting.  Toss in 4-5 years of consistent lifting, supps, eating a ton, and the fact he doesn't look "ripped" in those pics and 230 may be a stretch, they're at a flattering angle, and those arms and legs are clearly skinny by pro standards...

I dunno... I expect to see delts and quads way bigger if he's on gear.  all packed with receptors and whatnot... those shoulders and quads say natty to me.

(http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/533064_540773332619771_688129512_n.jpg)
Delts and traps are too full to be 100% nattt IMHO.
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: njflex on November 03, 2013, 08:07:16 PM
any competition pics?    I love a good debate/discussion... so I'll be the sole voice to say maybe he isn't on the gas.  At 6 foot 1, with that frame, he SHOULD be 180 or 190 pounds without lifting.  Toss in 4-5 years of consistent lifting, supps, eating a ton, and the fact he doesn't look "ripped" in those pics and 230 may be a stretch, they're at a flattering angle, and those arms and legs are clearly skinny by pro standards...

I dunno... I expect to see delts and quads way bigger if he's on gear.  all packed with receptors and whatnot... those shoulders and quads say natty to me.

(http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/533064_540773332619771_688129512_n.jpg)
like 6th place cutler..
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: The Revelation on November 03, 2013, 11:49:04 PM
any competition pics?    I love a good debate/discussion... so I'll be the sole voice to say maybe he isn't on the gas.  At 6 foot 1, with that frame, he SHOULD be 180 or 190 pounds without lifting.  Toss in 4-5 years of consistent lifting, supps, eating a ton, and the fact he doesn't look "ripped" in those pics and 230 may be a stretch, they're at a flattering angle, and those arms and legs are clearly skinny by pro standards...

I dunno... I expect to see delts and quads way bigger if he's on gear.  all packed with receptors and whatnot... those shoulders and quads say natty to me.

(http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/533064_540773332619771_688129512_n.jpg)


hey bro too many people equate weight w anabolics- oh he can't be on anabolics he only weighs such and such.

anabolics and gh give a 'look'. see that thickness and density thru the traps and shoulders? that's anabolics. see his jaw line, despite how lean he is his jowels have a very thick look as well. that's anabolics based. edit: I initially thought gh too but I'd have too see him standing relaxed w/o a pump to make that judgement. his skin does have the shine and look gh gives but I see something else that makes me think maybe not.

all that being said, i'd love to think this guy is 'natural' and his build is all hard work and dedication - which it is even if he is using- but no bro he's not natural. not by a mile.

btw how much bigger do you expect his shoulders to be? trust me bro they are fucking MASSIVE. not the shoulder width itself which is god given but the 3 heads that make up the delt all balanced and well developed.


Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: WOOO on November 04, 2013, 02:41:08 AM
hommies need to stop skipping leg day
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: muscularny on November 04, 2013, 04:09:25 AM
blk genetics

a white guy would have to take drugs all day eat and then maybe be able to take a photo like this one second after doing a full body workout hahahaa

Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: local hero on November 04, 2013, 04:25:50 AM
i still cant believe you have people seriously debating this... take a random bodybuilder from the 70's gassed to the gills and compare... he is bigger than mr prabolin serge nube for example
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: BikiniSlut on November 04, 2013, 04:35:25 AM
HOLY FUCK THAT'S HOT.

That is the ultimate male physique.  After seeing that I've decided that's my ideal male physique.

There are no flaws.

That is what Mr Olympia should be. Not too big, not to small, not to conditioned, not too fat, perfect proportions, no "pregnancy" belly, no overdone quads, etc.

Men and women should desire that body.
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: local hero on November 04, 2013, 04:39:16 AM
yep,,, excellent physique, what most guys with good genetics will look like without total abuse/mega dosing
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: Army of One on November 04, 2013, 05:18:05 AM
You know the world has gone full retard when there are people out there willing to argue that this guy is natural.
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: Ronnie Rep on November 04, 2013, 05:33:14 AM
i still cant believe you have people seriously debating this... take a random bodybuilder from the 70's gassed to the gills and compare... he is bigger than mr prabolin serge nube for example
This! Serge was 6ft and competed at 210!
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: SmallPole on November 04, 2013, 05:36:10 AM
yep,,, excellent physique, what most guys with good amazing genetics will look like without total abuse/mega dosing

ftfy

seriously this guy's got top notch 1 in a million black genetics

1 in a billion possibly for a white fella
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: The Italian Lifter on November 04, 2013, 05:46:27 AM
Delts and traps are too full to be 100% nattt IMHO.

this
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: Hulkotron on November 04, 2013, 06:03:51 AM
His right arm looks S.E.O.

I could see a bber convincing himself that synthoil use maintains natural status.
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: local hero on November 04, 2013, 09:34:54 AM
ftfy

seriously this guy's got top notch 1 in a million black genetics

1 in a billion possibly for a white fella

calm down there,,,, lets not get it out of context, plenty of black and white competitore rock that look before they destroy them selves with slin/gh combos
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: Parker on November 04, 2013, 09:53:23 AM
Great chest.
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: arce1988 on November 04, 2013, 01:45:40 PM
 :D ;D
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: flinstones1 on November 04, 2013, 05:12:25 PM
6'1", 230lbs, Natural pro, Muscelmania europe 2013 winner.
Is this the ideal pussy pulling physique?
Buchanan esque waistline, arnold pose duplicated.
Fella has some serious width just standing there!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BVfhPLTIAAAOv65.jpg:large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BXn8hInIgAANPBB.jpg:large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BTebIxSIMAAtGJm.jpg:large)
fucking incredible structure on the guy on the left. and fuck no he's not natural lmao
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: TommyBoy on November 04, 2013, 05:37:43 PM
any competition pics?    I love a good debate/discussion... so I'll be the sole voice to say maybe he isn't on the gas.  At 6 foot 1, with that frame, he SHOULD be 180 or 190 pounds without lifting.  Toss in 4-5 years of consistent lifting, supps, eating a ton, and the fact he doesn't look "ripped" in those pics and 230 may be a stretch, they're at a flattering angle, and those arms and legs are clearly skinny by pro standards...

I dunno... I expect to see delts and quads way bigger if he's on gear.  all packed with receptors and whatnot... those shoulders and quads say natty to me.

(http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/533064_540773332619771_688129512_n.jpg)

240, I love you on these boards, but sometimes you can't even play devil's advocate and and say this is "possibly" natural. If the guy weighed about 30 pounds less? Maybe. He would still be amazing with the same definition/proportions. But this guy natural? No. Nope. Nuh uh. His forearm is almost half as wide as his waist, and no natural is EVER going to get arms that big and defined. Everything about his arms, traps, and shoulders scream user. He's got a good hook up I suppose.
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: Bevo on November 04, 2013, 05:39:35 PM
blk genetics

a white guy would have to take drugs all day eat and then maybe be able to take a photo like this one second after doing a full body workout hahahaa



And still wouldn't look half as good
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: Bevo on November 04, 2013, 05:43:46 PM
6'1", 230lbs, Natural pro, Muscelmania europe 2013 winner.
Is this the ideal pussy pulling physique?
Buchanan esque waistline, arnold pose duplicated.
Fella has some serious width just standing there!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BVfhPLTIAAAOv65.jpg:large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BXn8hInIgAANPBB.jpg:large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BTebIxSIMAAtGJm.jpg:large)

Better asthetics and structure than any pro white bber competing in the mr O this yr

Maybe Kuclo is an exception in terms of structure/shape

Not even Wolfe
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: arce1988 on November 04, 2013, 06:28:06 PM
 PED and DNA
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: 240 is Back on November 04, 2013, 07:55:38 PM
Great genetics.  Works hard in the gym.  Not exactly huge, filled out muscle, when you consider his frame. 

I haven't seen any competition pics.
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: Parker on November 04, 2013, 07:58:32 PM
That upper body is absolutely insane... this guy hit the biggest genetic lottery of all time.

He's got a really stupid look on his face all the time, though.  

Anyone who thinks he's natural is completely clueless.
It's the look that he knows that he has "hit the biggest genetic lottery of all time."
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: 240 is Back on November 04, 2013, 08:04:53 PM
He's tall... compare him to Wade/Lebron... also amazing genetics, height, lines... and they don't bodybuild. 

One could argue he adds 5 years of heavy lifting, great nutrition... it's possible.  He's lanky, although highly muscular.  he's NOT thick like a pro.  He'd get defeated by balanced and THICKER NPC athletes.  230 at 6 foot 3?  that's thin.  back and thighs are years away.  I call natty.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=504745.0;attach=541118;image)
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: Parker on November 04, 2013, 08:10:47 PM
He's tall... compare him to Wade/Lebron... also amazing genetics, height, lines... and they don't bodybuild. 

One could argue he adds 5 years of heavy lifting, great nutrition... it's possible.  He's lanky, although highly muscular.  he's NOT thick like a pro.  He'd get defeated by balanced and THICKER NPC athletes.  230 at 6 foot 3?  that's thin.  back and thighs are years away.  I call natty.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=504745.0;attach=541118;image)
At 6'3 he'd still look lanky at 280...he'd have to compete at 300+.
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: 240 is Back on November 04, 2013, 08:15:57 PM
At 6'3 he'd still look lanky at 280...he'd have to compete at 300+.

Which is why I think he might be natural.  

BBers are always stretching their weight.  When I hear 230, I think 218.  He has crazy good lines, but he's not big, he's not thick, considering his height.    Those thighs are small for his frame.  Back is at least 15 pounds from being on par with the rest of him.  Compare hand & head with the rest of him - If   dude hit the sauce and bulked up 25-30 pounds of real muscle, he'd look like a top NPC guy.  But he doesn't.  

A lot of people freak when they see that mirror pic.  But every other pic of him is LESS impressive.  Dieted down, this would be VERY small by NPC standards (at that height), and other dudes at 5 9 and 230 pounds would wreck him.  He's not big for his frame (yet) - Good chance of natty.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=504745.0;attach=541117;image)
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: cephissus on November 04, 2013, 08:16:05 PM
shame about the back ;D
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: jude2 on November 04, 2013, 08:28:48 PM
Reminds me of a black Stan McQuay.
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: stavios on November 04, 2013, 08:30:06 PM
what a badass physique right there

Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: rooseveltdunn on November 04, 2013, 08:35:29 PM
Still prefer Ulysses though, more symmetrical and better lines.
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: Parker on November 04, 2013, 08:46:16 PM
Reminds me of a black Stan McQuay.
how? Stan looks awesome, but I don't see the comparison.
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: jude2 on November 04, 2013, 08:55:36 PM
how? Stan looks awesome, but I don't see the comparison.
Broad shoulders with tats on them, small waist, starting winning BB contest in so called natural shows like muscle mania. Has good looks, just to name a few.
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: Parker on November 04, 2013, 09:30:36 PM
Broad shoulders with tats on them, small waist, starting winning BB contest in so called natural shows like muscle mania. Has good looks, just to name a few.
His shoulder to waist ratio is more inline with Brian Buchanan...ain't like Stan's. Also if you look at the vid, he's got very long arms and legs, built like a basketball player---Small Fwd.
Physically he's very different than Stan. Other than Musclemania and the tats, looks, I don't see anything else.
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: flinstones1 on November 04, 2013, 09:36:02 PM
blk genetics

a white guy would have to take drugs all day eat and then maybe be able to take a photo like this one second after doing a full body workout hahahaa



lol  lets not get carried away this guy is not ronnie coleman. Besides...There are white guys with better physiques..... a young dennis newman would put the whopping on him.
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: jude2 on November 04, 2013, 09:37:15 PM
His shoulder to waist ratio is more inline with Brian Buchanan...ain't like Stan's. Also if you look at the vid, he's got very long arms and legs, built like a basketball player---Small Fwd.
Physically he's very different than Stan. Other than Musclemania and the tats, looks, I don't see anything else.
When Stan was in muscle mania his waist was alot smaller than in the IFBB. Stan looks tall in the 212 class even though he is short himself. I think Stan could do very well in mens physique if he wanted.  Panda has a good waist, but he is no Brain Buchanan.
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: flinstones1 on November 04, 2013, 09:38:10 PM
guys got oil in his arms 2. He is another level of development than stan mcay though. stan is  tiny guy and it doesnt take much to fill out at that height
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: Zillotch on November 04, 2013, 09:41:18 PM
There are white guys with better physiques.....

If we're talking aesthetics, this has never been equalled -
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: forillagorilla on November 04, 2013, 09:45:39 PM
Its is amazing how some guys can tell pretty much exactly what drugs a man used by simply looking at a picture ... 
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: ESFitness on November 04, 2013, 10:55:40 PM
If we're talking aesthetics, this has never been equalled -

equaled? nah, we blew right past that shit... decades ago.
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: The Revelation on November 04, 2013, 10:56:41 PM
Its is amazing how some guys can tell pretty much exactly what drugs a man used by simply looking at a picture ...  

it's not amazing when you've taken probably every anabolic under the sun, know what each one does, the look it brings, and have paid attention to those details at every body fat level.

it's called experience. you have to remember a lot of guys posting here aren't just poking themselves ignorantly and randomly w no clue what they are doing, some have decades of experience.  

I'm one of those guys and there are a few others here I've noticed who know what's going on- guys w a lot of knowledge and first hand experience.

I can pretty much tell what someone is using. anabolics are like a fingerprint. each one is different. they bring different looks when used correctly. what's difficult to tell is dosages. impossible imo.
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: Parker on November 04, 2013, 11:02:24 PM
When Stan was in muscle mania his waist was alot smaller than in the IFBB. Stan looks tall in the 212 class even though he is short himself. I think Stan could do very well in mens physique if he wanted.  Panda has a good waist, but he is no Brain Buchanan.
No, he's no Brian Buchanan, I said more inline---his relaxed taper in pics is great, but he doesn't have the lats to give that "flare"...

Also as far as his arms---his arms look like regular basketball player's arms, whoever said that he has oil his arms, how can you tell?
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: Zillotch on November 04, 2013, 11:21:43 PM
equaled? nah, we blew right past that shit... decades ago.

Feel free to post up a more aesthetically pleasing physique. 
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: ESFitness on November 04, 2013, 11:22:22 PM
Feel free to post up a more aesthetically pleasing physique. 

i don't keep pics of bbers on my pc. lol
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: Zillotch on November 04, 2013, 11:29:47 PM
i don't keep pics of bbers on my pc. lol

Toss out a name, then. 
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: cephissus on November 04, 2013, 11:30:30 PM
equaled? nah, we blew right past that shit... decades ago.

"we" lmao

have fun in fantasy land, convict
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: Sophus on November 04, 2013, 11:52:34 PM
Simeon looks great in gym shots

He looks like shit on stage
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: ESFitness on November 05, 2013, 12:30:39 AM
Toss out a name, then. 

Lee Haney wasn't aesthetically pleasing?

Flex Wheeler wasn't aesthetically pleasing?

just to name a couple...

or by "aesthetically pleasing" did you mean skinny? or "eh, i'm good enough.. i'll quit where I am".
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: Parker on November 05, 2013, 01:13:55 AM
If we're talking aesthetics, this has never been equalled -
Every physique can be picked sort. There is no "perfect" physique...
And Paris had a long waist look to him.
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: falco on November 05, 2013, 02:05:32 AM
Maybe he has a tumor in his testicles wich make them secrete supranatural amounts of testosterone.
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: Kwon_2 on November 05, 2013, 02:17:29 AM
equaled? nah, we blew right past that shit... decades ago.

We haven't , yet.
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: Bevo on November 05, 2013, 02:24:38 AM
Reminds me of a black Stan McQuay.

(http://www.jqhome.net/taiso/Stan-McQuay.jpg)

Looked his best here and musclemania days before he turned pro

After that waist grew and conditioning went to shit, starting getting that glaze look

Most likely hit the GH and insulin hard after turning pro
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: Bevo on November 05, 2013, 02:27:25 AM
He's tall... compare him to Wade/Lebron... also amazing genetics, height, lines... and they don't bodybuild. 

One could argue he adds 5 years of heavy lifting, great nutrition... it's possible.  He's lanky, although highly muscular.  he's NOT thick like a pro.  He'd get defeated by balanced and THICKER NPC athletes.  230 at 6 foot 3?  that's thin.  back and thighs are years away.  I call natty.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=504745.0;attach=541118;image)

Natty?? Hahaha u got to be joking...
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: Bevo on November 05, 2013, 02:36:41 AM
Lee Haney wasn't aesthetically pleasing?

Flex Wheeler wasn't aesthetically pleasing?

just to name a couple...

or by "aesthetically pleasing" did you mean skinny? or "eh, i'm good enough.. i'll quit where I am".

Correct

Add Chris Cormier to that list

(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/cormier/cc126.jpg)

(http://tnation.t-nation.com/forum_images/8/6/869287.1136224455548.cc.jpg)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_mC1TEdZ4gks/Su2-e8xZAqI/AAAAAAAABfI/3M3mtFifOB0/s400/1998-mr-olympia-64_20090830_.JPG)
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: Zillotch on November 05, 2013, 02:44:53 AM
Lee Haney wasn't aesthetically pleasing?

Flex Wheeler wasn't aesthetically pleasing?

just to name a couple...

or by "aesthetically pleasing" did you mean skinny? or "eh, i'm good enough.. i'll quit where I am".

Every physique can be picked sort. There is no "perfect" physique...
And Paris had a long waist look to him.

Haney and Wheeler are not even in the same galaxy aesthetically.

Both are more developed, by far, but standing relaxed neither come close to the ideal structure, lines and proportion of Paris.

Paris was as close to 'perfect' as any pro has ever been.


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Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: ESFitness on November 05, 2013, 03:15:54 AM
Correct

Add Chris Cormier to that list

(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/cormier/cc126.jpg)

(http://tnation.t-nation.com/forum_images/8/6/869287.1136224455548.cc.jpg)


I almost did.. but figured i'd get arguments saying "he's too bulky" blah blah blah... whatever... to me, when somebody says "aesthetically pleasing", I hear "a guy who couldn't get any bigger if he tried"... like Frank Zane.... or a number of Mens Physique guys.

Like a bodybuilder who's 200lbs would DECLINE to add a half inch on their arms and an inch to their back/chest.  ::) how pompous is that? "nah, i'm tooooo good to improve... i'm perfect as it is".

"aesthetically pleasing" to me means a guy who seems attainable to regular guys because they're too lazy to put in the work and do the things needed to stand out. 
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on November 05, 2013, 04:55:44 AM
Haney and Wheeler are not even in the same galaxy aesthetically.

Both are more developed, by far, but standing relaxed neither come close to the ideal structure, lines and proportion of Paris.

Paris was as close to 'perfect' as any pro has ever been.

Well that's just it.....Bob Paris was probably the best looking bodybuilder when just standing there.  But he lost something in most poses.  Hence why everyone always posts a picture of him just standing there.

Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: njflex on November 05, 2013, 06:59:28 AM
Well that's just it.....Bob Paris was probably the best looking bodybuilder when just standing there.  But he lost something in most poses.  Hence why everyone always posts a picture of him just standing there.


100 PCT TRUE ,he was not small at times he was over 230 plus on stage but when he did traditional bbing poses he lost it somewhere,he had long torso and big legs ,when he did artistic poses he looked great ,but a side chest or fdb he would somehow not open up or 'pop'weird,dennis newman was a bigger version maybe not 100 pct same look relaxed but same kinda look relaxed wide shoulders/big legs but he posed and looked good in most basic poses 'prejudging 'type.
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 05, 2013, 07:45:47 AM
Sure this Panda-fellow isn't gay? :D

He sure loves to pose with his friends in the lockerrooms!

(http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/533064_540773332619771_688129512_n.jpg)

....

Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: uk-lion on November 05, 2013, 07:49:20 AM
ive seen this lad simeon in the gym i use a few times, never spoke to him i will as hes meant to be a nice kid, from what ive heard from others in the gym he is natural. he is a big lad though about 6'1" ish i reckon, he doesnt have that aas look to be fair to him and i think you can see that in his shoulder development. he trains heavy and hes fucking strong.
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: Ronnie Rep on November 05, 2013, 07:51:40 AM
In action....





He should stick to modeling, can make a whole lot more money, and not destroy his health!
He needs a lot more mass, especially in his legs! His back is not that wide has kinda high lats, needs to be a lot thicker!
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: kushtestgrowth on November 05, 2013, 09:00:25 AM
Natural.... Lol c'mon guys.  This is all fast ester and orals. Low to moderate dosages very good build
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: _aj_ on November 05, 2013, 10:29:36 AM
He's definitely on. I know because I am natty and I look like complete and utter shit compared to him. Ipso facto.

 ;)
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: flinstones1 on November 05, 2013, 10:31:34 AM
Natural.... Lol c'mon guys.  This is all fast ester and orals. Low to moderate dosages very good build
::) moderate doses? this guy is on everything under the kitchen sink. holy fuck there are more juicers out there under 200 pounds than over.
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: kushtestgrowth on November 05, 2013, 10:39:24 AM
::) moderate doses? this guy is on everything under the kitchen sink. holy fuck there are more juicers out there under 200 pounds than over.

Yes moderate doses probably hasn't gone over 2 grams weekly and that in my opinion is very moderate for a competitor. But you never know cAn be double that or half that we will never know but far from natural
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: hench on November 05, 2013, 11:39:27 AM
safe to say the fella looks absolutely outstanding just stood there, great clavicle width with crazy small waist. But he looks very lanky in the video and how long are his arms!?
Even 190lb zane would school him on being complete.
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: mesmorph78 on November 05, 2013, 12:25:35 PM
Seen Simeon in person
He's not as big as everyone is making out , but has a good physique narrow waist and great traps are his standout...
A lot of jealousy in this thread.
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: Parker on November 05, 2013, 12:34:09 PM
Seen Simeon in person
He's not as big as everyone is making out , but has a good physique narrow waist and great traps are his standout...
A lot of jealousy in this thread.
Like a basketball player that lifts, correct?
Dude has great traps, arms, chest.
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: njflex on November 05, 2013, 12:40:39 PM
safe to say the fella looks absolutely outstanding just stood there, great clavicle width with crazy small waist. But he looks very lanky in the video and how long are his arms!?
Even 190lb zane would school him on being complete.
THIS^^^
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: mesmorph78 on November 05, 2013, 12:47:19 PM
Like a basketball player that lifts, correct?
Dude has great traps, arms, chest.
Saw him at the bodyfit expo and while he isn't a big big guy IMO he had one of the best if not the best physique there.... All the pros look pregnant ... Short and too big for there height.



Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: Parker on November 05, 2013, 12:51:29 PM
Video from Sept 20th, 2013
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: arce1988 on November 05, 2013, 01:22:54 PM
look at the gladiator video   he is on ped


he looks just like adrian peterson


who is also on ped
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: JasonH on November 05, 2013, 01:55:46 PM
It's a tough call with this guy - you can't justifiably look at pictures and/or video of someone and proclaim that someone is or isn't on juice.

I could throw up a few pics of me taken over the years both on and off and try and get you guys to guess which is which and I bet most of you would get them wrong.
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: Bevo on November 05, 2013, 02:17:39 PM
Yes bc everyone is natural these days that compete in bbing , they are very honest too , when they claim natural they are most likely natural

Esp if they compete in musclemania which is tested.....
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: JasonH on November 05, 2013, 02:39:42 PM
Yes bc everyone is natural these days that compete in bbing , they are very honest too , when they claim natural they are most likely natural

Esp if they compete in musclemania which is tested.....

I didn't say I thought he was natural, I'm just saying that you can't judge based on photos alone. Hell if he's up on stage competing like that then I would say yeah probably juiced. Just watched a training video of him doing barbell rows (shitty form at that) with 365 on the bar. That gives it away more than a photo ever will.
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: flinstones1 on November 05, 2013, 02:48:52 PM
the dude DOES look lanky in the vid.  I keep going by that one pic with the short guy..shopped pics maybe ???   
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: latiuss on November 05, 2013, 02:51:12 PM
Yes bc everyone is natural these days that compete in bbing , they are very honest too , when they claim natural they are most likely natural

Esp if they compete in musclemania which is tested.....


Have you heard of rob riches?
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: Bevo on November 05, 2013, 03:31:33 PM

Have you heard of rob riches?

A very honest man with great integrity?
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: Disgusted on November 05, 2013, 04:09:56 PM
OK so let's break this guy down. Nothing personal at all just what I see. Great delts and arms especially biceps. Triceps are kinda high but still good, nice chest. He has a very tiny waist. Those aspects alone make him look great especially in an everyday kind of look, but not so much on stage. His back and legs are sub par and his contest conditioning is mediocore.  He has an incredible street build, but will not go too far as far as bbing is concerned.

Oh and the gym photos are shopped big time.
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: arce1988 on November 05, 2013, 04:12:37 PM
 :D ;D
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: 240 is Back on November 05, 2013, 04:30:55 PM
Seen Simeon in person
He's not as big as everyone is making out , but has a good physique narrow waist and great traps are his standout...
A lot of jealousy in this thread.

THIS - When a guy uses steroids, he grows.  Everywhere.  This dude?  That back looks untrained.  Those quads, MAYBE leg extensions or machines... shoulders and quads don't look big, and that's the first thing that grows on people.  He looks like a dude that trained arms for 8 years and the rest of the body for 2 years.

he'll be a very good BBer in a few years, but the opening pic on this thread is the BEST ONE (and most people believe it's shopped).  Each following pic is worse.  Dude's natural.  He has potential, he has killer arms and looks great, really impressive... but not as a complete bber and he could certainly be a natural.
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: Disgusted on November 05, 2013, 04:43:10 PM
THIS - When a guy uses steroids, he grows.  Everywhere.  This dude?  That back looks untrained.  Those quads, MAYBE leg extensions or machines... shoulders and quads don't look big, and that's the first thing that grows on people.  He looks like a dude that trained arms for 8 years and the rest of the body for 2 years.

he'll be a very good BBer in a few years, but the opening pic on this thread is the BEST ONE (and most people believe it's shopped).  Each following pic is worse.  Dude's natural.  He has potential, he has killer arms and looks great, really impressive... but not as a complete bber and he could certainly be a natural.

Steroids do not make you grow equally on all body parts. Of course this guy trains his back, it's just not genetically gifted as his other body parts. His shoulders are huge and match his arms so I'm not sure about your comment about his shoulders. He's a good 10 to 15 pounds away from being shredded and YES!! the photos are extremely shopped to the point it looks like he has dirt lines between each muscle group.
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: Parker on November 05, 2013, 04:59:47 PM
Him training
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Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: tommywishbone on November 05, 2013, 05:29:37 PM
The guys name is really Simeon Panda?
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: asbrus on November 05, 2013, 07:35:33 PM
blk genetics

a white guy would have to take drugs all day eat and then maybe be able to take a photo like this one second after doing a full body workout hahahaa



arnold, jay, and dorian were all white.
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: asbrus on November 05, 2013, 07:36:22 PM
ftfy

seriously this guy's got top notch 1 in a million black genetics

1 in a billion possibly for a white fella

lmao. not with those twinky legs he dosen't.
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: asbrus on November 05, 2013, 07:38:04 PM
Which is why I think he might be natural.  

BBers are always stretching their weight.  When I hear 230, I think 218.  He has crazy good lines, but he's not big, he's not thick, considering his height.    Those thighs are small for his frame.  Back is at least 15 pounds from being on par with the rest of him.  Compare hand & head with the rest of him - If   dude hit the sauce and bulked up 25-30 pounds of real muscle, he'd look like a top NPC guy.  But he doesn't.  

A lot of people freak when they see that mirror pic.  But every other pic of him is LESS impressive.  Dieted down, this would be VERY small by NPC standards (at that height), and other dudes at 5 9 and 230 pounds would wreck him.  He's not big for his frame (yet) - Good chance of natty.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=504745.0;attach=541117;image)

don't troll
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: asbrus on November 05, 2013, 07:39:00 PM
lol  lets not get carried away this guy is not ronnie coleman. Besides...There are white guys with better physiques..... a young dennis newman would put the whopping on him.

he loves black dick judging by his posts.
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: jude2 on November 05, 2013, 07:39:51 PM
If we're talking aesthetics, this has never been equalled -
Agreed.  All the girls in the gym loved Bob Paris, to bad he was gay.
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: The Revelation on November 05, 2013, 08:30:42 PM
does anyone know off hand what height Arnold is and what he weighed when he competed?
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: BIG DUB on November 05, 2013, 08:35:15 PM
Him training
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had the thug look and vibe from the pics, strange hearing the uk accent.
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: njflex on November 05, 2013, 08:38:18 PM
does anyone know off hand what height Arnold is and what he weighed when he competed?
6'1 215-235/240 depending on yr mro lowest 80 fiasco a dry lean arnold less than 220 ..
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: galeniko on November 05, 2013, 08:52:02 PM
thats natural on 1-2gramms of some steroids.


maybe even gh,that film of wate ron the abs looks suspect.


to the ones who say hes not big,lol, he carries an absolute shitton of mass on his structure.

arms and shoulders are ridiculous big.

Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on November 05, 2013, 08:55:13 PM
6'1 215-235/240 depending on yr mro lowest 80 fiasco a dry lean arnold less than 220 ..

Lol I think Mr Revelation was trying to make a point. Namely, that this guy has the same stats as Arnold, who--incidentally--was on a good bit of juice
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: njflex on November 05, 2013, 08:58:04 PM
Lol I think Mr Revelation was trying to make a point. Namely, that this guy has the same stats as Arnold, who--incidentally--was on a good bit of juice
i figured ,still thought in a sorta sarcastic way he wanted a comparison lol
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: The Revelation on November 05, 2013, 08:58:50 PM
Lol I think Mr Revelation was trying to make a point. Namely, that this guy has the same stats as Arnold, who--incidentally--was on a good bit of juice

:)
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: galeniko on November 05, 2013, 08:59:34 PM
THIS - When a guy uses steroids, he grows.  Everywhere.  This dude?  That back looks untrained.  Those quads, MAYBE leg extensions or machines... shoulders and quads don't look big, and that's the first thing that grows on people.  He looks like a dude that trained arms for 8 years and the rest of the body for 2 years.

he'll be a very good BBer in a few years, but the opening pic on this thread is the BEST ONE (and most people believe it's shopped).  Each following pic is worse.  Dude's natural.  He has potential, he has killer arms and looks great, really impressive... but not as a complete bber and he could certainly be a natural.
man, those legs and back dont look well on npc stage maybe, but they not small by any means.

Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on November 05, 2013, 09:02:34 PM
:)

Would you mind making a thread sharing your thoughts on diet/juice/training?  I'm sure many would find it enlightening, and it would certainly spark some good discussion
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: The Revelation on November 05, 2013, 09:03:56 PM
i figured ,still thought in a sorta sarcastic way he wanted a comparison lol

haha ya bro it's one of those questions that makes more of a statement than a statement. :D

ps dry Arnold imo greatest physique of all time. those shots taken on the boardwalk by the water kinda shows what nobody really gives Arnold a lot of credit for- his flow and symmetry. everyone say bob Paris? take a look at those photos of Arnold. speaking for myself that's prolly the best Arnold if not the best physique of all time.

btw thanks for your reply.
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: The Revelation on November 05, 2013, 09:05:30 PM
Would you mind making a thread sharing your thoughts on diet/juice/training?  I'm sure many would find it enlightening, and it would certainly spark some good discussion

ya for sure bro np just abt to turn in for the eve I'll start one tomorrow. cheers.
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: HonestBob on November 06, 2013, 12:04:58 AM
He could just possibly be a true freak and natural. The contest video is far less impressive than the photos.  I have seen a handful of clean black guys look amazing - and we knew they were clean because of how they changed when they did eventually succumb to the Dark Side.  Which they all did...

What gets me is that I think because it is Musclemania the Polish dude is supposed to be clean as well.   ;D
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: local hero on November 06, 2013, 03:28:15 AM
got to admit the contest pics tell a different story to gym shots...
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: latiuss on November 06, 2013, 04:59:18 AM
A very honest man with great integrity?

I think rob is a cool dude but
He always claimed natty,competed recently in a natty comp, won it then failed the drug test for anavar...
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: 240 is Back on November 06, 2013, 05:03:02 AM
got to admit the contest pics tell a different story to gym shots...

A lot of people think the gym shots are very flattering & generous, with a little work done.  Yes, those are world class.

THEN we see the competition pics, and he looks like a very uneven physique - great genes, but legs and back (two major parts) that are years behind his arms. 

No way the physique in the gym shots could ever be natural - I agree there.  But the more pics I see on MD - then seeing that live posing video - I don't think he gets top 5 at a state show in the NPC.  Once you see that video - Does it make natural status seem way more possible?
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: hench on November 06, 2013, 08:09:25 AM
The gym shots are all pretty much the same, standing relaxed or a kind of most muscular. When he opens himself up his weaknesses are obvious, his arms dont even look great in the fdb. He reminds me of nubret, great just standing there, not great when posing
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: galeniko on November 06, 2013, 10:09:04 AM
got to admit the contest pics tell a different story to gym shots...
yeah but thats still 1000mg weekl natural.

on the contest stage ,random pics ruthlessly expose all the flaws, when you cant pick you favourite pose :D

there was some random pics of me where i was unprepred for the shot, when i seen them i tought which twink is that ;D ;D

i find it fubby when ppl claim this is natty, they do so bc deep inside they hope they too can get there, naturaly, and if not, then with only a little bit help, since the panda guy is natty after all.im sure you follow the "logic" ;D

someone said he lok smaler in person, lol, no shit,everyone whos shredded will look kinda smaller than thought in person.

by all means, those who belive natty, feel free to duplicate the development.

and to the daydreamers who say hes got a weak back, lol, compared to what?to the olympia lineup?

go to see an regional amateur show and see the development of the backs there,then you know where panda guy is.

arnolds stats and more shredded than arnold,or about the same.good point.

btw, local hero this isnt adressed to you, i know you know what you talking about.
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: njflex on November 06, 2013, 10:47:58 AM
yeah but thats still 1000mg weekl natural.

on the contest stage ,random pics ruthlessly expose all the flaws, when you cant pick you favourite pose :D

there was some random pics of me where i was unprepred for the shot, when i seen them i tought which twink is that ;D ;D

i find it fubby when ppl claim this is natty, they do so bc deep inside they hope they too can get there, naturaly, and if not, then with only a little bit help, since the panda guy is natty after all.im sure you follow the "logic" ;D

someone said he lok smaler in person, lol, no shit,everyone whos shredded will look kinda smaller than thought in person.

by all means, those who belive natty, feel free to duplicate the development.

and to the daydreamers who say hes got a weak back, lol, compared to what?to the olympia lineup?

go to see an regional amateur show and see the development of the backs there,then you know where panda guy is.

arnolds stats and more shredded than arnold,or about the same.good point.

btw, local hero this isnt adressed to you, i know you know what you talking about.
THE MASTER HAS SPOKETH...
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: Hulkotron on November 06, 2013, 10:54:59 AM
As natural as a well-endowed Irishman.
Title: Re: Simeon Panda
Post by: Borracho on November 06, 2013, 10:56:53 AM
it's not amazing when you've taken probably every anabolic under the sun, know what each one does, the look it brings, and have paid attention to those details at every body fat level.

it's called experience. you have to remember a lot of guys posting here aren't just poking themselves ignorantly and randomly w no clue what they are doing, some have decades of experience.  

I'm one of those guys and there are a few others here I've noticed who know what's going on- guys w a lot of knowledge and first hand experience.

I can pretty much tell what someone is using. anabolics are like a fingerprint. each one is different. they bring different looks when used correctly. what's difficult to tell is dosages. impossible imo.

But what happens when guys are running multiple compounds at a time?