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I usually do the exercise without weights for many reps and I also add crunches before dead lift and squats.
I wish everybody who had gotten injured or pulled or ripped a muscle or tendon had reached this discipline in at least your 30s.
Many people compensate with working out real heavy and a lot, almost every day, but that is just mental weakness and compensation for liking to be delusionaly puffy and eat a lot of crap food and supplements. It's better to just do it right instead, lower calories and still lift only most efficient workouts instead of mental workouts and throw that stupid shit out. Only when this is mastered you had the bravery and natural test production to man up.
Why don't you warm up punk?
Why do you eat so much supplements punk?
Why do you inject yourself punk?
Leave childhood douchebane!
Pull your pants up hebbrew!
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like every idiot I learned the lesson about warming up the hard way
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Yes, when we are young we do the mistakes, multiple times even, just as long as you learn them by your 30's. Because after 40 it's doubtful you can learn any new tricks, you think you might, but you most likely haven't.
That's why so many WWE bite the dust young because they never learnt and continue delusional behavior in a vicious cycle. You basically can't snap out of it after 40 the right way.
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I am 40 and what is this?
I like how guys insist on cardio after lifting because they read something online about how you can't lose fat without first depleting glycogen stores.
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I am 40 and what is this?
I like how guys insist on cardio after lifting because they read something online about how you can't lose fat without first depleting glycogen stores.
You should do cardio after lifiting. 1) I believe you will burn more fat with depleted glyc stores, and 2) you need more glyc for working out muscle tissue, hence lifting first.
Doing it the other way around is silly in comparison.
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I usually do the exercise without weights for many reps and I also add crunches before dead lift and squats.
I wish everybody who had gotten injured or pulled or ripped a muscle or tendon had reached this discipline in at least your 30s.
Many people compensate with working out real heavy and a lot, almost every day, but that is just mental weakness and compensation for liking to be delusionaly puffy and eat a lot of crap food and supplements. It's better to just do it right instead, lower calories and still lift only most efficient workouts instead of mental workouts and throw that stupid shit out. Only when this is mastered you had the bravery and natural test production to man up.
Why don't you warm up punk?
Why do you eat so much supplements punk?
Why do you inject yourself punk?
Leave childhood douchebane!
Pull your pants up hebbrew!
You should put on your pants before you put on your shoes, you should look up and down before crossing the road.
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You should do cardio after lifiting. 1) I believe you will burn more fat with depleted glyc stores, and 2) you need more glyc for working out muscle tissue, hence lifting first.
Doing it the other way around is silly in comparison.
I feel much looser after rowing + a light set than with just a light set or two. To each his own.
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"15 minutes to warm up? Does a lion warm up when he's hungry? 'Uh oh, here comes an antelope. Better warm up.' No! He just goes out there and eats the sucker." Jack Lalane
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I know I'm supposed to do dynamic warmup, foam roll, etc.....but I just.....don't that often.
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I know I'm supposed to do dynamic warmup, foam roll, etc.....but I just.....don't that often.
We spend at least 20min doing this before we even touch a weight.
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"15 minutes to warm up? Does a lion warm up when he's hungry? 'Uh oh, here comes an antelope. Better warm up.' No! He just goes out there and eats the sucker." Jack Lalane
Yes a lion warms up very well, the lion first stalks it's pray, then quietly and unseen gets closer, then runs and THEN makes the kill. In that order Jack.
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We spend at least 20min doing this before we even touch a weight.
The older I get, the more I need the foam roller. I have a bunch of them in various states. My favorite is a piece of 4" schedule 40 PVC.
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A simple 5 mins on the arc trainer and some light cable pushdowns has really helped my tendinitis. True story.
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We spend at least 20min doing this before we even touch a weight.
I believe that, and I think it's good. But I often workout during lunch and find myself having to get done quickly. But I should at least devote 10 min.....
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The older I get, the more I need the foam roller. I have a bunch of them in various states. My favorite is a piece of 4" schedule 40 PVC.
We keep a supply..lol. Foam rollers, Lacrosse balls, golf balls, cat tails. We do a ton of soft-tissue work.
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IT band rolling hurts so much....lol
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You should put on your pants before you put on your shoes, you should look up and down before crossing the road.
Maybe I'm missing your point, but wouldn't you wanna look left and right?
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Maybe I'm missing your point, but wouldn't you wanna look left and right?
Maybe he's going to roll across the street.
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never warmed up in 12 years. If you dont go stupidly heavy and control your moves you aint going to hurt yourself. Injuries dont happen because of lack of warmup but because of inaproriate, exagerated weights and lack of control.
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never warmed up in 12 years. If you dont go stupidly heavy and control your moves you aint going to hurt yourself. Injuries dont happen because of lack of warmup but because of inaproriate, exagerated weights and lack of control.
You're a very stupid person.
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You're a very stupid person.
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like every idiot I learned the lesson about warming up the hard way
Yea so you ring the bell get a couple of nursing girls to lay by your side, when warm jump up and hit the wheel chair over to the chin bar, nice job.
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never warmed up in 12 years. If you dont go stupidly heavy and control your moves you aint going to hurt yourself. Injuries dont happen because of lack of warmup but because of inaproriate, exagerated weights and lack of control.
you are a fucking idiot.
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I used to warm-up with 30 minutes of activation moves, foam rolling, stretching, fixing imbalances then injury prevention after a workout...all for powerlifting. And I still got hurt all the time. Maybe just crappy genetics?
I almost spent more time fixing or preventing problems than I did lifting weights.
Switched to lighter weights (60% of 1RM or lighter) for 4-5 sets of 15 reps, minimum. Sometimes go to failure, sometimes not. Do 3-4 exercises per bodypart. First set is maybe 20%, then 30%, then 50%, then 60% and 60%. I use a very full range of motion. Focus on the muscle, not the movement anymore.
Know what? Haven't been injured in over 18 months. And physique looks better and performs better than ever. And I'm not much weaker.
It wasn't worth it, in hindsight. I no longer have to waste 30 minutes warming up. I no longer miss weeks at a time due to injury. And I like the way I look more now. Sure, I can't squat 600lbs anymore. But then again, who cares? It's not like I'm all of a sudden useless because I no longer do doubles with 600lbs, and instead only do 15 reps with 275. Leg size is still the same (albeit leaner). I can squat down all the way without feeling like something will rip. My back doesn't hurt anymore. My achilles don't feel like they'll shred if I don't roll them on a lacrosse ball for 5 minutes. My hips don't snap. My IT bands don't feel like they're tight as drums.
I'm done trying to be strong for the strength's sake. What more in life will I accomplish if I bench 450 instead of 350? Besides a bill from an orthopedic surgeon. I'm not an athlete anymore. Just some guy in his 30's trying to still look good for the moms on my street.
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I am 40 and what is this?
I like how guys insist on cardio after lifting because they read something online about how you can't lose fat without first depleting glycogen stores.
whats wrong with that,it makes sense in more than 1 way.
you hardly wanna do 40minutes of exhausting cardio first and then powerless follow up with the weight training.
the fattest ppl in the gyms are exactly the ones who do it the other way around(cardio first)
me, i warm up with cardio, am fasted anyway, then weights then bit cardio.
shredded day in day out 8)
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"15 minutes to warm up? Does a lion warm up when he's hungry? 'Uh oh, here comes an antelope. Better warm up.' No! He just goes out there and eats the sucker." Jack Lalane
well if we going to compare us to animal kingdom, some animals do extremly retarded things.
dogs eating own vomit, pigs eating own shit.
also the lion is not gonna do arms supersets :D
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We spend at least 20min doing this before we even touch a weight.
yah takes a while to get all that subcutane water warmed up :)
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you are a fucking idiot.
arent all of you clowns on steroids? ;)
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whats wrong with that,it makes sense in more than 1 way.
you hardly wanna do 40minutes of exhausting cardio first and then powerless follow up with the weight training.
the fattest ppl in the gyms are exactly the ones who do it the other way around(cardio first)
me, i warm up with cardio, am fasted anyway, then weights then bit cardio.
shredded day in day out 8)
x2. It baffles me the people I see hop on the treadmill and get their cardio in, then attempt to lift weights. It's backwards. I generally go in in a fasted state too. I'm also shredded. And natty.
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x2. It baffles me the people I see hop on the treadmill and get their cardio in, then attempt to lift weights. It's backwards. I generally go in in a fasted state too. I'm also shredded. And natty.
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Warmup takes less than 5-10 minutes. Spent 25 years as a competitive bike racer. My warmup evolved to 5 minutes, rolling easy then doing a series of 10 second sprints. Worked every time. And the intensity of a flat out criterium (30+ mph out of the gate) rivals anything you get in a gym lifting weights.
By the way, the old Reg Park 5x5 system started out at light weights for the first two sets, (60-80% of working set) and it seemed to work for him...
Note to Gal and Spidey - latest research shows fasting for 12+ hours (includes sleep) raises natural growth hormone incredibly high. You two are smart.
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Warmup takes less than 5-10 minutes. Spent 25 years as a competitive bike racer. My warmup evolved to 5 minutes, rolling easy then doing a series of 10 second sprints. Worked every time. And the intensity of a flat out criterium (30+ mph out of the gate) rivals anything you get in a gym lifting weights.
By the way, the old Reg Park 5x5 system started out at light weights for the first two sets, (60-80% of working set) and it seemed to work for him...
Note to Gal and Spidey - latest research shows fasting for 12+ hours (includes sleep) raises natural growth hormone incredibly high. You two are smart.
yeah this is the thing, all this when to do cardio etc is bit moot.
after 10+years of training and finaly letting go of the stupidity of pre and imediate post workout meals and eat all 3 hrs, i just noticed(after huge binges i felt bad and felt it was wrong to eat 3 hrs later, so i tried to fast 24hrs afterward and tried training fasted)that the longer i consistenlty just eat nothing,no protein shakes,just nothing, the more ripped i get.
maintaing 1-2weeks out of contest shape year round, no muscle loss as long theres enough protein eaten.
i read when fasted, the hormone glucagon takes over,instead of insulin and then comes the gh release etc.
the only 1 thing that i regret about it is that i didnt figure out this much earlier.
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By the way, the old Reg Park 5x5 system started out at light weights for the first two sets, (60-80% of working set) and it seemed to work for him...
The only realistic warm up I know of, and also just getting your joints ready by moving them around.
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I know I'm supposed to do dynamic warmup, foam roll, etc.....but I just.....don't that often.
eh???!!
foam roll before you train????
nonononono
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Ingrained at a young age to warm up properly. Still I have gym injuries. Sometimes shit just happens.
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x2. It baffles me the people I see hop on the treadmill and get their cardio in, then attempt to lift weights. It's backwards. I generally go in in a fasted state too. I'm also shredded. And natty.
I can't workout totally fasted I'll go hypo. I usually dilute some gaderade and sip while training.
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I used to laugh at the idea of pre-exhausting exercises. Now I use them when needs be.
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You must
I usually do the exercise without weights for many reps and I also add crunches before dead lift and squats.
I wish everybody who had gotten injured or pulled or ripped a muscle or tendon had reached this discipline in at least your 30s.
Many people compensate with working out real heavy and a lot, almost every day, but that is just mental weakness and compensation for liking to be delusionaly puffy and eat a lot of crap food and supplements. It's better to just do it right instead, lower calories and still lift only most efficient workouts instead of mental workouts and throw that stupid shit out. Only when this is mastered you had the bravery and natural test production to man up.
Why don't you warm up punk?
Why do you eat so much supplements punk?
Why do you inject yourself punk?
Leave childhood douchebane!
Pull your pants up hebbrew!
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Agree with Gal.
I've been a bodybuilder naturally for just over 22 years now. I"ve done it all, seen it all, tried it all again. Eating a meal every 3 hours is bunk. It makes you FAT. Period. No one ever eats just a few calories every 3 hours. It turns into a huge calorie surplus.
I did the perma bulk thing for years and added a ton of muscle mass as well as fat. I filled out the XXL shirts and looked big, but not muscular. I'm now older and actually want to look great with my shirt off and don't care about benching 315 anymore. I want to look good for confidence and women. AND fitting into clothes properly. I can't tell you how much nicer it is to have clothes that fit correctly instead of strangely bc of size.
For breakfast I have ONE scope of whey in almond milk and some mixed nuts. Then for lunch I do protein (usually just a can of tuna in oil) and veggies. That's at about noon. I then lift at 530 having not eaten since noon. I hit weights, then cardio. Then home at about 7 to eat something light, mostly protien and veggies again. VERY little carbs in my diet.
I've gone from a muscular/fat 240 to a RIPPED solid 175. I can't tell you how many people have asked what I'm on now. It's funny that all that bodyfat loss makes ALL the difference in the world in appearances. Yes, i'm weaker, but really.. do I care? No. I look great now.
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eh???!!
foam roll before you train????
nonononono
Yeah isn't that comparable to doing static stretching pre workout >>>> a HUGE NO NO
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Agree with Gal.
I've been a bodybuilder naturally for just over 22 years now. I"ve done it all, seen it all, tried it all again. Eating a meal every 3 hours is bunk. It makes you FAT. Period. No one ever eats just a few calories every 3 hours. It turns into a huge calorie surplus.
I did the perma bulk thing for years and added a ton of muscle mass as well as fat. I filled out the XXL shirts and looked big, but not muscular. I'm now older and actually want to look great with my shirt off and don't care about benching 315 anymore. I want to look good for confidence and women. AND fitting into clothes properly. I can't tell you how much nicer it is to have clothes that fit correctly instead of strangely bc of size.
For breakfast I have ONE scope of whey in almond milk and some mixed nuts. Then for lunch I do protein (usually just a can of tuna in oil) and veggies. That's at about noon. I then lift at 530 having not eaten since noon. I hit weights, then cardio. Then home at about 7 to eat something light, mostly protien and veggies again. VERY little carbs in my diet.
I've gone from a muscular/fat 240 to a RIPPED solid 175. I can't tell you how many people have asked what I'm on now. It's funny that all that bodyfat loss makes ALL the difference in the world in appearances. Yes, i'm weaker, but really.. do I care? No. I look great now.
yah, im alot weaker than my permabulkers days too, the strenght kinda shines through when i had rest days and ate a shitton of food, but not even interested in going for strenght.
btw i did like 6meals daily for a while small six meals, was shredded too but just not THAT shredded, def difference.
haha i was thinking "but i can eat any less or id have to start skipping meals"(affraid of catabolism haha),then i just skiped some and got even leaner.
strengh should only be built initialy,later on you use that to focus on full rom and proper movement, the 1 time being bulke in life is bit necesity,but were both long beyond that.
cheers, :D
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Yeah isn't that comparable to doing static stretching pre workout >>>> a HUGE NO NO
here's my warmup..10 minutes on the elliptical/rower..with a sweater on to get warm. followed by about 5 minutes (don't time it) of various hamstring/groin/lower back stretches. I find that getting my lower body loose just kinda wakes up my whole body. then I loosen the upper body by swinging around a pair of 5 pound plates...controlled, nothing ballistic
Then it's at least two sets of very light weight whatever the first exercise is. Never had a serious gym injury, knock wood. And I think I get better workouts. I'm fully awake and engaged...I'm not sleepwalking into the gym at 6 AM and getting under 225 pounds with one eye open. that never made any sense to me.
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here's my warmup..10 minutes on the elliptical/rower..with a sweater on to get warm. followed by about 5 minutes (don't time it) of various hamstring/groin/lower back stretches. I find that getting my lower body loose just kinda wakes up my whole body. then I loosen the upper body by swinging around a pair of 5 pound plates...controlled, nothing ballistic
Then it's at least two sets of very light weight whatever the first exercise is. Never had a serious gym injury, knock wood. And I think I get better workouts. I'm fully awake and engaged...I'm not sleepwalking into the gym at 6 AM and getting under 225 pounds with one eye open. that never made any sense to me.
Sounds great, similar to my own, except I don't stretch at all, just quick cardio and tons of warm up sets
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Sounds great, similar to my own, except I don't stretch at all, just quick cardio and tons of warm up sets
Not stretching is gay
:D. I have tight hams and groin. .always have...so I gotta work to stay flexible.
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Not stretching is gay
:D. I have tight hams and groin. .always have...so I gotta work to stay flexible.
Oh I do, just post WO, never prior. Mobility is key, otherwise we'll look like Cswol waddling around the gym :D
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Yeah isn't that comparable to doing static stretching pre workout >>>> a HUGE NO NO
Pre workout Foam rolling comparable to static stretching? I don't think so. Coach, please weigh in.
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Pre workout Foam rolling comparable to static stretching? I don't think so. Coach, please weigh in.
In the sense of breaking down/stretching fascia and muscle fibers.
Should THAT be the goal prior to exercise? Or post? My gut says POST.
Same concept as to why you don't want a deep tissue massage before a lift. Muscle tone provides exceptional stability needed for resistance exercise.
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Reading the title of the thread, I thought of posting something similar to what uberman said actually.
I warm up a lot, sometimes I prepare for an hour before my heavy sets. I have a lot of injuries
and whenever I mention these to some newbie in the gym I always get the same comment, "didn't you warm up and stretch before?" My answer is that you can warm up as much as you want but if you keep adding weight, at some point something will give. Doesn't matter how much you warm-up, once the load exceeds the strength of your tendon it will rip. :D
I believe warming up, stretching, using liniments etc can reduce chance of injury but the protective effect may be overstated. Most important I believe is to address muscular imbalances. For example, my hamstring injuries may have been brought on by relatively weak glutes. That sort of thing.
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I am not going to warm up never had a injury.
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I am not going to warm up never had a injury.
thought you injured your back when you pulled 6 bills without warm-up in order to impress others in your gym, or maybe it was someone else ???
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Pre workout Foam rolling comparable to static stretching? I don't think so. Coach, please weigh in.
i'd never, ever have a client get on a foam roller prior to training.. for a variety of reasons.
5mins on a treadmill at a decent incline, or even with the treadmill turned off and pushing myself, plus a little 5-10lbs dumbbell or plate stuff for shoulders. ect... but never stretching or foam rolling. that stuff is for post workout.
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thought you injured your back when you pulled 6 bills without warm-up in order to impress others in your gym, or maybe it was someone else ???
that might've been me. end of my back workout (tried out a new pre workout.. was still buzzing)... gym was packed and I hadn't deadlifted in at least 6 months.. saw a loaded bar and thought "what the hell"... pulled 530 for a triple and noticed I had a crowd of young kids watching.. so I decided to pull 620 for a triple... thought my tricep was gonna tear off my shoulder insertion. lol... then I thought I had a bulging disk in my low back... but next day I was fine. (no belt btw, just VersaGrips.. double overhand)
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i've been lifting for over a decade with no injuries or tears
i hope i will remain on this path of blessings
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thought you injured your back when you pulled 6 bills without warm-up in order to impress others in your gym, or maybe it was someone else ???
I did that with no injury, injured the back after about 4 sets of warmups so I have seen both sides if temperature is cold outside yea a few warmups are required. Correct form is required mostly to avoid injuries.
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Sounds great, similar to my own, except I don't stretch at all, just quick cardio and tons of warm up sets
no dynamic stretching?
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no dynamic stretching?
I'll do a variation of ballistic during my first few warm up sets, so I'll use just a barbell for chest for example.
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I do a few light sets but that's it. No serious injuries here but I have pulled a few muscles in the past.
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Plenty of record-setting lifters in this thread.
Why lift heavy if you're not a powerlifter or athlete? If you just want to build your muscles, it doesn't take 80% 1RM weights to do it. Lots of volume, less intense weights (i.e. less load as defined by % of 1RM)...you'll lift longer, you probably won't get hurt as often and your joints will thank you.
Look at Serge Nubret, Arnold, Haney...all built their bodies with an intelligent long-term approach. As the great Haney said, "stimulate, don't annihilate".
I plan to lift well into my old age. I'd hate to think of a life where I can't work out because I busted up my body in my youth. As it is, I've done enough damage. No more.
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i'd never, ever have a client get on a foam roller prior to training.. for a variety of reasons.
5mins on a treadmill at a decent incline, or even with the treadmill turned off and pushing myself, plus a little 5-10lbs dumbbell or plate stuff for shoulders. ect... but never stretching or foam rolling. that stuff is for post workout.
Can you give me two reasons?
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Give me the ten names
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Warming up can be dangerous.
A few years ago in a BJJ class, we were doing jumping jacks, as a warmup, when I heard a pop in my upper back. It turned out to be a partial tear of my infraspinatus. :'(
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Plenty of record-setting lifters in this thread.
you bet ;D
when the fat covers the physique, theres not much else left to brag about than "weight lifted".
anyone whos bragging about such its 99% that they look like shit, lifted weight is so irrelevant to build up muscle, and its such a vague term, its entirely pointless to even discuss it.
let the physiques fo the talking instead.
saddest thing is, most actualy never learn, its akin to going blind through life.
here we are discussing how to warm up for lifting weight, lol, this is incredible.
20minutes warming up?what is this?planning a leave for a mars mission?
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Warming up can be dangerous.
A few years ago in a BJJ class, we were doing jumping jacks, as a warmup, when I heard a pop in my upper back. It turned out to be a partial tear of my infraspinatus. :'(
No its not, that's rediculous. Dont look to a BJJ instructor for a proper warm up. I have six MMA gyms using my system and not one injury due to an improper warm up.
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you bet ;D
when the fat covers the physique, theres not much else left to brag about than "weight lifted".
anyone whos bragging about such its 99% that they look like shit, lifted weight is so irrelevant to build up muscle, and its such a vague term, its entirely pointless to even discuss it.
let the physiques fo the talking instead.
saddest thing is, most actualy never learn, its akin to going blind through life.
here we are discussing how to warm up for lifting weight, lol, this is incredible.
20minutes warming up?what is this?planning a leave for a mars mission?
Totally agree! I can understand this whole warm-up business if your only job is to lift weights, for the sake of lifting weights (i.e. powerlifter or olympic lifter).
But I don't think there's many professional strongmen out there.
So what's with all this warm-up shit? Honestly, guys have gone to the gym for decades and built great physiques without 30 minutes facial stretching and pre-activation and foam rolling and ART and all this shit. It's just marketing bullshit to a sub-culture of a sub-culture, propagating bro science. "Oh, the reason I'm not big, is because I have imbalances preventing my t-spine from allowing me to dorsi-flex properly in a squat so as to keep my pelvis in posterior tilt". Seriously, spare me. What a load of shit for the average guy.
Just pick something up that wont crush you, lift it a bunch of times with some good form, and you're done. That's 99% of it. The rest is all bullshit.
But we lifters love to overcomplicate what should be a simple hobby.
Again, for all the athletes and what-not, sure. When I was an athlete, it mattered. I'm not anymore. Just an average guy in the gym. Not going to be in WSM, or bench in a shirt, or make the Red Sox farm team...just an average guy. So average workouts will do for me just fine.
Lots of sets, lots of reps, lots of exercises, not so much weight I can't feel the muscle for 15 reps, full ROM...don't eat too much, starve a little bit, try to eat good foods that came from the earth... It's really that simple.
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I'm thinking there's a total lack education when it comes to training in this thread. You actually have some people comparing the way 70's bodybuilders warm up to today's protocols. Even if you are bodybuilding there still has to be movement preparation, soft tissue work, activation. This is far from "bro-science. It seems no one wants to research, pick up a book, go to a eminar or even learn the basics.Fact, not everyone can squat, not everyone can externally rotate their shoulders to even grab the bar to squat, not everyone can squat parallel even if hthey can squat just to name a couple of examples. Some of you on here are even trainers saying this and you wonder why trainers get a bad rap. It's not all lifting weights , you don't seem to understand that, its about improving the quality of life be it a bodybuilder or a fat soccer mom. Most Here are stuck in the stone age.
One poster said he would never foam roll a client...why? If you have plantar facitus what do you do? Soft tissue work usually with a golf ball + rest. Well, you have facia throughout your body, why would you not release that facia before your warm up and train? There's a direct correlation between myofacial release, dynamic warm-up/Mobility and injury reduction beit bodybuilding, being an athlete, powerlifter or strongman.
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I know guys who foam roll and do the lacrose balls preworkout so they can train without pain. If they don't foam and lacrose ball preworkout they have to deal with pain.
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I know guys who foam roll and do the lacrose balls preworkout so they can train without pain. If they don't foam and lacrose ball preworkout they have to deal with pain.
Yep, we have a shit load of lacrosse ball, handballs, golf ball because we do a ton of trigger point especially in the sub-scaps, traps and QL.
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snx killing it in this thread, as usual
coach desperately trying to stay relevant, hawking 3rd rate service-oriented snake oil ;D
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snx killing it in this thread, as usual
coach desperately trying to stay relevant, hawking 3rd rate service-oriented snake oil ;D
Whatever you say sister. Be sure to throw up your client list.
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snx killing it in this thread, as usual
coach desperately trying to stay relevant, hawking 3rd rate service-oriented snake oil ;D
snx is one of my favorites here, and while I think his post makes sense, it's only in the context of building a decent physique and not getting injured.
I still like to get faster/stronger, but as I get older, more stuff hurts. Coach's advice and techniques have been very helpful to me.
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Yep, we have a shit load of lacrosse ball, handballs, golf ball because we do a ton of trigger point especially in the sub-scaps, traps and QL.
Bro you still haven't addressed why to do it pre vs post??? There's a lot of CSCS coaches out there advocating POST wo only, never deep tissue or fascia stretching before.
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Bro you still haven't addressed why to do it pre vs post??? There's a lot of CSCS coaches out there advocating POST wo only, never deep tissue or fascia stretching before.
Right here, my friend.
If you have plantar facitus what do you do? Soft tissue work usually with a golf ball + rest. Well, you have facia throughout your body, why would you not release that facia before your warm up and train? There's a direct correlation between myofacial release, dynamic warm-up/Mobility and injury reduction beit bodybuilding, being an athlete, powerlifter or strongman.
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Bro you still haven't addressed why to do it pre vs post??? There's a lot of CSCS coaches out there advocating POST wo only, never deep tissue or fascia stretching before.
I actually did...One poster said he would never foam roll a client...why? If you have plantar facitus what do you do? Soft tissue work usually with a golf ball + rest. Well, you have facia throughout your body, why would you not release that facia before your warm up and train? There's a direct correlation between myofacial release, dynamic warm-up/Mobility and injury reduction beit bodybuilding, being an athlete, powerlifter or strongman.
Part of our pre-training warm up include flexibility as well as after. It make no sense to do a myofacial release after training. The first thing our clients do when they walk in is sign in and grab a foam roller. They spend 5-7min on a seven point release..
1. Lumbar, Thoracic, upper back (rhomboids)/Cervical no higher than C6.
2. IT bands
3. Glutes and glute ham tie-in
4. TFL
Then depending on the day (upper or lower) we have activation/mobility both seven point drills.
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you bet ;D
when the fat covers the physique, theres not much else left to brag about than "weight lifted".
anyone whos bragging about such its 99% that they look like shit, lifted weight is so irrelevant to build up muscle, and its such a vague term, its entirely pointless to even discuss it.
let the physiques fo the talking instead.
saddest thing is, most actualy never learn, its akin to going blind through life.
here we are discussing how to warm up for lifting weight, lol, this is incredible.
20minutes warming up?what is this?planning a leave for a mars mission?
I believe there's more to lifting than attracting bitches. There can be joy in the lifting itself.
Getting stronger can be very satisfying in itself for some people... the people killing themselves in the gym for decades, with close to zero appreciation or admiration from other people is proof of that, or why else would they do it?
I lift for strength because I can't do bodybuilding due to poor genes and injuries. Getting stronger is still fun, I can lift in an empty gym, tell no one what I lifted, but it's still very satisfying to set PR's. It's almost a religious feeling.:D
Just lifting for bitches in the club, or admiration from other men, seems so superficial. And the whole idea behind having all your self worth being dependent on your sexy buff looks is kinda depressing to me. Some day the physique goes, then what's left?
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I believe there's more to lifting than attracting bitches. There can be joy in the lifting itself.
Getting stronger can be very satisfying in itself for some people... the people killing themselves in the gym for decades, with close to zero appreciation or admiration from other people is proof of that, or why else would they do it?
I lift for strength because I can't do bodybuilding due to poor genes and injuries. Getting stronger is still fun, I can lift in an empty gym, tell no one what I lifted, but it's still very satisfying to set PR's. It's almost a religious feeling.:D
Just lifting for bitches in the club, or admiration from other men, seems so superficial. And the whole idea behind having all your self worth being dependent on your sexy buff looks is kinda depressing to me. Some day the physique goes, then what's left?
the black dude is in his early-mid 60's and the white dude is in his mid-late 50's (no homo)
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Totally agree! I can understand this whole warm-up business if your only job is to lift weights, for the sake of lifting weights (i.e. powerlifter or olympic lifter).
But I don't think there's many professional strongmen out there.
So what's with all this warm-up shit? Honestly, guys have gone to the gym for decades and built great physiques without 30 minutes facial stretching and pre-activation and foam rolling and ART and all this shit. It's just marketing bullshit to a sub-culture of a sub-culture, propagating bro science. "Oh, the reason I'm not big, is because I have imbalances preventing my t-spine from allowing me to dorsi-flex properly in a squat so as to keep my pelvis in posterior tilt". Seriously, spare me. What a load of shit for the average guy.
Just pick something up that wont crush you, lift it a bunch of times with some good form, and you're done. That's 99% of it. The rest is all bullshit.
But we lifters love to overcomplicate what should be a simple hobby.
Again, for all the athletes and what-not, sure. When I was an athlete, it mattered. I'm not anymore. Just an average guy in the gym. Not going to be in WSM, or bench in a shirt, or make the Red Sox farm team...just an average guy. So average workouts will do for me just fine.
Lots of sets, lots of reps, lots of exercises, not so much weight I can't feel the muscle for 15 reps, full ROM...don't eat too much, starve a little bit, try to eat good foods that came from the earth... It's really that simple.
yah brother, meanwhile theres this gimmick retard "wolfox" calling me out for a bench press "challenge" ::)
hes a soaking wet 170lbs natty and thinks im "weak".
so weak that he doubts i can bench 220 for reps,oh well.
not that it matters, it doesnt occur to such retards that a rep isnt a rep.
the one athlete with superior muscle mind connection and positioning on bench etc will get more benfits from 1 plate a side bench that the one wiht inferior muscle mind conection.in his case,theres no muscle, and the mind is cuckoo, so yeah lol.
comparing reps and weights has fuck all to do with intensity as far bodybuilding goes, im sure you do know what i mean, how hard is the muscle squeezed for the whole rom etcetc.
a bodybuilder doesnt train to just somehow lift a weight,we train to lift it in a very precise way.
cheers, loving your posts 8)
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I actually did...One poster said he would never foam roll a client...why? If you have plantar facitus what do you do? Soft tissue work usually with a golf ball + rest. Well, you have facia throughout your body, why would you not release that facia before your warm up and train? There's a direct correlation between myofacial release, dynamic warm-up/Mobility and injury reduction beit bodybuilding, being an athlete, powerlifter or strongman.
Part of our pre-training warm up include flexibility as well as after. It make no sense to do a myofacial release after training. The first thing our clients do when they walk in is sign in and grab a foam roller. They spend 5-7min on a seven point release..
1. Lumbar, Thoracic, upper back (rhomboids)/Cervical no higher than C6.
2. IT bands
3. Glutes and glute ham tie-in
4. TFL
Then depending on the day (upper or lower) we have activation/mobility both seven point drills.
Plantar fasciitis is a very poor example though....
Ok, WHY IS MFR A POOR CHOICE AFTER TRAINING? Specifically.....why??? Because I can give examples of why it is a poor choice before. So why is post training bad?? I'm curious to learn here.
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the black dude is in his early-mid 60's and the white dude is in his mid-late 50's (no homo)
Ugly dudes.
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Ugly dudes.
yeah the black dude is, but the white dudes pretty handsome, kinda got a j. parrillo look to him :D :D :D
(http://www.parrillo.com/images/ivanko.jpg)
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yeah the black dude is, but the white dudes pretty handsome, kinda got a j. parrillo look to him :D :D :D
(http://www.parrillo.com/images/ivanko.jpg)
Parillo looks like he can't get women with out money. Ugly as hell well he has hair I guess.
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Parillo looks like he can't get women with out money. Ugly as hell well he has hair I guess.
Based on his photos w Bob Chick, I don't think he's interested in women
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Juruth's wet dream right there. I bet he would love to sit on Parillo's lap while Parillo takes a stinky shit.