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Pit bull chews off owner's arm, hand
In a scene out of a horror movie, a pit bull -- apparently without provocation -- attacked its owner, tearing out one of her arms and ripping off her other hand.................... .........
http://www.ctpost.com/news/article/Pit-bull-bites-off-owner-s-arms-4976857.php#photo-5454074
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Dumb bitch shouldn't have showered with this that morning.
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Pit bull chews off owner's arm, hand
In a scene out of a horror movie, a pit bull -- apparently without provocation -- attacked its owner, tearing out one of her arms and ripping off her other hand.................... .........
http://www.ctpost.com/news/article/Pit-bull-bites-off-owner-s-arms-4976857.php#photo-5454074
without provocation they say..... I always call BS maybe she hasn't directly abused the animal but someone did and in a bad way ..... for these dogs to attack humans so viciously there has to be an underlying reason as maybe the dog was from a line of dogs that were hand picked and bred solely for their human aggression. I own pits as well as boxer and any type of dog and yes I know what one is capable of and I've seen other breeds do bad things bit its these piece of shit slum people doing this backyard bad breeding . Honestly the breed is tainted its very hard to know if the dog is from a clean bloodline unless it has reputable peppers which mine does and I was screened before the owner would sell me the pup . He loves people scetchy with male dogs but oh well
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without provocation they say..... I always call BS maybe she hasn't directly abused the animal but someone did and in a bad way ..... for these dogs to attack humans so viciously there has to be an underlying reason as maybe the dog was from a line of dogs that were hand picked and bred solely for their human aggression. I own pits as well as boxer and any type of dog and yes I know what one is capable of and I've seen other breeds do bad things bit its these piece of shit slum people doing this backyard bad breeding . Honestly the breed is tainted its very hard to know if the dog is from a clean bloodline unless it has reputable peppers which mine does and I was screened before the owner would sell me the pup . He loves people scetchy with male dogs but oh well
Apparently they all love people. People are very tasty to them. :D
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Many people commit unprovoked attacks and humans are supposedly" better" than animals.
What's your point?
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i used to own a english bull terrier... and i used to fool my self about how great these fighting type dogs are, but when it comes down to it they come down to 3 types
they will try and kill any animal
they will try and kill people
they will kill everything
mine just had hate for other animals, now kid your selves all you want that these types of dogs are great pets, they are fighting dogs with fighting aggressive temperament
if you have a family and want a dog, get somthing that could'nt rip your arm off and carry on ripping other bodyparts off even when you hit it with hammers etc
pitbulls are banned in many countries for good reason
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Many people commit unprovoked attacks and humans are supposedly" better" than animals.
What's your point?
The point is: Pitbulls love to eat humans. :D
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the dog was probably just hungry.
cant blame him
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funny thing is, there's hundreds of breeds of dogs, why do people pick pitbulls!?!?! Is it just to LOOK tough?
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funny thing is, there's hundreds of breeds of dogs, why do people pick pitbulls!?!?! Is it just to LOOK tough?
yes
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don't have to worry about that with my shih Tzu :)
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the dog was probably just hungry.
cant blame him
Yep, gotta keep the body in an anabolic state!
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funny thing is, there's hundreds of breeds of dogs, why do people pick pitbulls!?!?! Is it just to LOOK tough?
Good guess. The "provoked" dog argument is null and void also. So we should all tiptoe around dogs because someone might have hurt them in the past? Poor dog, please eat my hand!
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funny thing is, there's hundreds of breeds of dogs, why do people pick pitbulls!?!?! Is it just to LOOK tough?
Whoa guys, are you suggesting that if someone owns a pitbull and name him "pain", he's just trying to look hardcore??
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i used to own a english bull terrier... and i used to fool my self about how great these fighting type dogs are, but when it comes down to it they come down to 3 types
they will try and kill any animal
they will try and kill people
they will kill everything
mine just had hate for other animals, now kid your selves all you want that these types of dogs are great pets, they are fighting dogs with fighting aggressive temperament
if you have a family and want a dog, get somthing that could'nt rip your arm off and carry on ripping other bodyparts off even when you hit it with hammers etc
pitbulls are banned in many countries for good reason
maybe it was you who didnt know how to raise it?. Pb and bullterriers etc are not dogs for anyone.
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My cat kills everything she can.
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maybe it was you who didnt know how to raise it?. Pb and bullterriers etc are not dogs for anyone.
dont get me wrong, he was a baby in the house, wanted on your knee all night etc... nightmare with animals soon as he hit 18month tho
the three types i pointed out sum up every fighting dog ive came across
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its not the dog it the environment it is raised in.
"Range Road is in a neighborhood of tidy suburban homes, but the red house at number 77 has fallen on hard times. The garage door is mostly missing; a picket fence covers the opening. The electricity meter has a shut-off tag affixed to it.
On the front stoop is a large plastic tub, partially filled with water, into which a winter coat was draped. The front yard is covered in brambles and the mailbox hadn't been emptied in days.
Neighbors said they had never met Anne Murray and that the family kept to themselves. Police said she lives with her twin 26-year-old sons.
"Technically, the dog belonged to one of the sons," Wakeman said. "The sons weren't home all the time, so she took care of the dog when they weren't there. Why the dog turned on her, we don't know."
if i have to draw a parallel here for you, then its just not worth debating.
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dont get me wrong, he was a baby in the house, wanted on your knee all night etc... nightmare with animals soon as he hit 18month tho
the three types i pointed out sum up every fighting dog ive came across
That's your fault, not the dogs.
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all dogs attack , there is not one breed of dog that has not attacked a human . the difference some are better at doing damage, no one gets all up in arms when their lil yapper dog aggressively barks and growls at someone, hell the owner thinks its cute and funny "oh lil lukey dukey is trying to be a big dog" whether its a tee cup poodle or an Irish wolf hound the intent of the attack or the behavior is the same. people will allow their lil crap ass dogs to do bad behavior in the thoughts of what harm can it really do. just as if a midget comes at you swinging with all his might with the intent to inflicted as much bodily damage as possible or a 6'2" 260lb meathead doing the same behavior as the fucking midget. which one seems to be a killer or a danger to society. if you choose to own an animal that is capable of doing mass damage then it is your responsibility to raise the animal to understand it cant get away with the same behavior as that fucking cockapoo lap dog that sitting on that uppity snob girls lap barking and growling and trying to show dominance over its lap.
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its not the dog it the environment it is raised in.
"Range Road is in a neighborhood of tidy suburban homes, but the red house at number 77 has fallen on hard times. The garage door is mostly missing; a picket fence covers the opening. The electricity meter has a shut-off tag affixed to it.
On the front stoop is a large plastic tub, partially filled with water, into which a winter coat was draped. The front yard is covered in brambles and the mailbox hadn't been emptied in days.
Neighbors said they had never met Anne Murray and that the family kept to themselves. Police said she lives with her twin 26-year-old sons.
"Technically, the dog belonged to one of the sons," Wakeman said. "The sons weren't home all the time, so she took care of the dog when they weren't there. Why the dog turned on her, we don't know."
if i have to draw a parallel here for you, then its just not worth debating.
Really? That's funny, because I haven't heard of any labs, poodles, shelties, etc. eating their owners in that neighborhood. ???
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good news that it wasn't a kid or an innocent passerby. the more owners that get fucked up the better.
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That's your fault, not the dogs.
yes of course it is ::)... i had him mixing with dogs from a puppy with no problems, i was told from other bull owner this would happen when they hit around 2 yr old and i didnt believe them
i stand by this too
either aggressive with dogs or with people or with both, its in there nature as a FIGHTING dog
just as its in jack russels nature to run down rabbit holes
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i used to own a english bull terrier... and i used to fool my self about how great these fighting type dogs are, but when it comes down to it they come down to 3 types
they will try and kill any animal
they will try and kill people
they will kill everything
mine just had hate for other animals, now kid your selves all you want that these types of dogs are great pets, they are fighting dogs with fighting aggressive temperament
if you have a family and want a dog, get somthing that could'nt rip your arm off and carry on ripping other bodyparts off even when you hit it with hammers etc
pitbulls are banned in many countries for good reason
English Bull Terriers and English Staffys are not banned in the UK I believe, but the Pit Bull is. Makes you wonder...
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Really? That's funny, because I haven't heard of any labs, poodles, shelties, etc. eating their owners in that neighborhood. ???
really? that's funny cause labs poodles and shelties bite people every day? ???
in fact the poodle records more bites a year on humans than any other breed???
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English Bull Terriers and English Staffys are not banned in the UK I believe, but the Pit Bull is. Makes you wonder...
yeah, but you still see enough of the bastards. plus the cunts are being crossed with mastiffs now which makes them not banned
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really? that's funny cause labs poodles and shelties bite people every day? ???
in fact the poodle records more bites a year on humans than any other breed???
maybe, but your comparing a paper cut to an axe wound
English Bull Terriers and English Staffys are not banned in the UK I believe, but the Pit Bull is. Makes you wonder...
bulls and staffys are more domesticated and are an established breed, pits are pure unstable fighting dogs that have no place in a family home, id go as far to say you are totaly responsible if a family member or neighbour is killed by one, just for the sake of having a 'hard' dog
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English Bull Terriers and English Staffys are not banned in the UK I believe, but the Pit Bull is. Makes you wonder...
because the American pitbull terrier has such a bad rap because of shit like this that its not recognized by AKC but is by CKC and ABDA, pitbull is a classification of any one of the bully breeds or mixed with anyone of the breeds ,,,,,, almost all the bad things are done by non registered or official paper dogs with no pedigree ........there is an AMstaff and the only thing that makes it different is a paper pedigree that states it is an AMstaff and came from only AMstaff. these designer bullys that you pay 1500-6000 for are bred as show pieces for their muscle structure or head size and are not of a pure bloodline but are a mix of staffys, mastiff, bull terriers and some times boston terriers .... I believe it takes 4 generations of a designed breed to be considered a bloodline. I hate thes dirty crap pits that are just created to be chained in the back yard and neglected .. I would consider myself a bully snob, duel registered blue blood line designer APBT I had a dirty bred one and it was my dog as in it was one person owner and she was scary I had to pry her mouth off of dogs more then a few times , we did put her down and if my 2000 dollar male shows those signs I will do the same to him .... but he is already 8 so I don't think he will go bad but he is a hard headed fuck head
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yes of course it is ::)... i had him mixing with dogs from a puppy with no problems, i was told from other bull owner this would happen when they hit around 2 yr old and i didnt believe them
i stand by this too
either aggressive with dogs or with people or with both, its in there nature as a FIGHTING dog
just as its in jack russels nature to run down rabbit holes
Yes of course, the magical "2 year old curse". ::)
Still your fault. You probably got lazy, tired of walking and playing with him.
Now tell me how I'm wrong and you spent so much time with him. ::)
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really? that's funny cause labs poodles and shelties bite people every day? ???
in fact the poodle records more bites a year on humans than any other breed???
Hmmmmm, I still don't recall reading about poodles and labs eating their owners, or anyone for that matter. Can you point me in the right direction? ???
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maybe, but your comparing a paper cut to an axe wound
bulls and staffys are more domesticated and are an established breed, pits are pure unstable fighting dogs that have no place in a family home, id go as far to say you are totaly responsible if a family member or neighbour is killed by one, just for the sake of having a 'hard' dog
English Staffys (And Irish Staffys) look just like the archetypical Pit Bull. And the English Staffy is from which the American Staffy and American pit bull come from. The English Bull Terrier was a fighting dog, that didn't do too well (from what I have read).
In the UK they still use English Staffys for fighting, and in the US they do as well. The reason why I said what I said, is that they (UK) don't want to ban their own breeds that are still being used for fighting, and only ban dogs which are labelled as "Am Pitbulls". And since English Staffys have the same "look", animals either bought for fighting or captured for fighting can be identified as "Am Pitbulls". Therefore, the blame is always on the Pitbull and the English Staffy can slip under the radar.
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Hmmmmm, I still don't recall reading about poodles and labs eating their owners, or anyone for that matter. Can you point me in the right direction? ???
sure bro hope this helps ??? that does say labs doesnt it ???
from Wikipedia
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http://www.examiner.com/article/child-attacked-by-dog-latest-incident-that-has-nothing-to-do-with-pit-bulls
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Hmmmmm, I still don't recall reading about poodles and labs eating their owners, or anyone for that matter. Can you point me in the right direction? ???
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Hmm, since many Chinese middle class are now buying a lot of dogs due to having disposable income, and trying to be like their Western counterparts, I wonder how long it's gonna take for the tirades to get involved in importing Pitbulls for dog fighting---because if there is money in it, then they will figure out a way to do it. Which means we will be hearing more reports of Pit specific bites on people. Especially those who do not understand the breed---and dogs in general.
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We walk our 75 pound male Labradoodle 4-5 days a week on mountain trails, sometimes very narrow trails. We run into a dozen or so leashed dogs of every breed every time out. ONLY the Pits bare their teeth, growl and lerch at our dog. Last week there were two Pits walking with their small framed Hispanic owners. The owners, male and a female, almost fell over into the rocks holding back their attacking Pits. I'm thinking about packing…thank God its legal here in Arizona.
But then on the other hand outside the market last night was a tethered fawn colored female Pit with a gray circle around one eye. Not only was she a tail wagging sweetheart she was very pretty. The owner must have known. Doggie Valium?
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We walk our 75 pound male Labradoodle 4-5 days a week on mountain trails, sometimes very narrow trails. We run into a dozen or so leashed dogs of every breed every time out. ONLY the Pits bare their teeth, growl and lerch at our dog. Last week there were two Pits walking with their small framed Hispanic owners. The owners, male and a female, almost fell over into the rocks holding back their attacking Pits. I'm thinking about packing…thank God its legal here in Arizona.
But then on the other hand outside the market last night was a tethered fawn colored female Pit with a gray circle around one eye. Not only was she a tail wagging sweetheart she was very pretty. The owner must have known. Doggie Valium?
its a hit and miss situation they are not all bad but there is too many that are I love mine but he will be my last PITBULL I'm liking the french bullys or a really bear Boston or a mini bull terrier
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it makes me laugh my balls off when people become shocked and amazed when an attack dog, attacks somebody... ::) hello
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Dog was probably not socialized. Probably was kept chained up and forgotten in the backyard.
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Dog was probably not socialized. Probably was kept chained up and forgotten in the backyard.
Probably ::)
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sure bro hope this helps ??? that does say labs doesnt it ???
from Wikipedia
Oh Brother, wikipedia. The fact is, Labradors have been responsible for 3 dog bite related fatalities in the history of TIME and poodles responsible for 1. Combined, That's the same amount of dog bite related fatalities attributed to pitbulls this past week
November 8 Levi Watson 4 years old killed by multiple pitbulls while Mother was visiting a friend
November 4 Katherine Atkins 25 years old, killed by her boy friends two pitbulls when she was feeeding them, something she had done many times before.
November 2 Terry Douglass 56 years old, killed by her own pitbull
November 1 Nga Woodhead 65 years old, killed by two pitbulls while out walking, good samaritan was also seriously injured trying to save her
So far this year, pitbulls have killed 23 people, totalling 90% of this years dog bite related fatalities. The recent study "Mortality, Mauling, and Maiming by Vicious Dogs 2011" determined that 1 person is killed by a pit bull every 14 days, a person loses a body part to a pit bull attack every 5.4 days, 2 persons are injured by pit bulls each day, and 1.5 pit bulls are shot to death each day.
There was a similar pitbull attack story to the one listed in the title of this thread earlier this year. Linda Henry was seriously injured by her own pit bulls and lost both her arms as well as many other serious injuries.
People like to believe "it's how you raise them' because that belief gives them a certain psychological reward when they feel they have tamed a wild beast, or that they are ALPHA over a powerful animal, when all that has happened is they own a pitbull that has had the game bred out of it. They also have zero understanding of the way genes work and how certain behavioural traits are bred in and not trained in.
To test this, take a Pointer whose parents are good hunting dogs. Raise him for a year without ever letting him see a bird. Now put him in a field full of pheasants and see what he does. He’ll point. He doesn’t need training, encouragement or coercion to cause him to point. His genes have passed along a specific behavior - if you smell a bird, freeze. Pointers who possess this innate reaction sell for very high prices. Try telling a hunter that he paid $10,000 for a finished field Pointer that had to be taught to point. He’ll laugh at you. He paid a premium for a pedigree that assured his dog’s potential for excellence
The whole time there are two competing interests involved in breeding these dogs, those who breed to keep the game in, and those who try and breed the game out, the situation will continue to be unpredictable and pitbulls will continue to kill someone every few weeks in between maiming and mauling every other day.
Mortality, Mauling, and Maiming by Vicious Dogs 2011 - https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_TQhn0TrPSba3p4NW5CT09ZX0E/edit?usp=sharing
Dog attack deaths and maimings, U.S. & Canada September 1982 to May 25, 2013 - https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_TQhn0TrPSbenlWVkQwY2kwbDA/edit?usp=sharing
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its not the dog it the environment it is raised in.
"Range Road is in a neighborhood of tidy suburban homes, but the red house at number 77 has fallen on hard times. The garage door is mostly missing; a picket fence covers the opening. The electricity meter has a shut-off tag affixed to it.
On the front stoop is a large plastic tub, partially filled with water, into which a winter coat was draped. The front yard is covered in brambles and the mailbox hadn't been emptied in days.
Neighbors said they had never met Anne Murray and that the family kept to themselves. Police said she lives with her twin 26-year-old sons.
"Technically, the dog belonged to one of the sons," Wakeman said. "The sons weren't home all the time, so she took care of the dog when they weren't there. Why the dog turned on her, we don't know."
if i have to draw a parallel here for you, then its just not worth debating.
Didn't even read this or the story before my previous post. I was right. Neglected house. Neglected dog.
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all dog breeds bite stuff, some are more powerful
anyway,the woman still got 1 arm,right?
so she can now apply the an eye for an eye policy.
nod amage done.
seriously, chances are ,she or someone else has abused the dog previously.
dogs came evolutionary into being from wolfs, those are dangerous animals, the little bit wolf will always be in dogs.
igf you want be sure to naot have arm bitten off(did she even lift btw?weak ass, wolfox-level arms,how can a arm be ripped of if its jacked)then dont have a dog.
if the bitch had the dog to intimidate ppl, then this is sweet karma.
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Pits need to be socialized. They aren't your average breed. Their history is one of work, fighting and hunting. Physically they are amazing dogs. No breed like it on this planet. No quit in a game pit. Got to admire them.
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Didn't even read this or the story before my previous post. I was right. Neglected house. Neglected dog.
Do you really believe that for a domesticated dog, that neglect is all that is needed to turn it into a raging killer. There are countless dogs that are neglected that will never attempt to maim, maul and kill a human being. This is part of the problem, people have grown up thinking that dogs mauling people to death is NORMAL, this is the domain of fighting breeds like pitbulls and a handful of other 'manstopper' breeds. Pitbulls don't need an excuse to fight until the death, if they did they would have made terrible pit fighting fogs. They have been deliberately bred to be willing to fight at any time, to hide their attack and to attack efficiently, causing maximum damage in the shortest period of time.
You really need to learn about artificial selection and the role of genetics in behavioural traits. It's human vanity and ego that thinks that genetics is irrelevant and they can overcome anything with some training and discipline. I could cite two relevant studies involving foxes and wolves, but I don't think the average getbigger has the intelligence, or is too steeped in pitbull propaganda to even begin to comprehend it.
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Pits need to be socialized. They aren't your average breed. Their history is one of work, fighting and hunting. Physically they are amazing dogs. No breed like it on this planet. No quit in a game pit. Got to admire them.
Yeah, regularly maiming, mauling and killing children is real admirable.
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Do you really believe that for a domesticated dog, that neglect is all that is needed to turn it into a raging killer. There are countless dogs that are neglected that will never attempt to maim, maul and kill a human being. This is part of the problem, people have grown up thinking that dogs mauling people to death is NORMAL, this is the domain of fighting breeds like pitbulls and a handful of other 'manstopper' breeds. Pitbulls don't need an excuse to fight until the death, if they did they would have made terrible pit fighting fogs. They have been deliberately bred to be willing to fight at any time, to hide their attack and to attack efficiently, causing maximum damage in the shortest period of time.
You really need to learn about artificial selection and the role of genetics in behavioural traits. It's human vanity and ego that thinks that genetics is irrelevant and they can overcome anything with some training and discipline. I could cite two relevant studies involving foxes and wolves, but I don't think the average getbigger has the intelligence, or is too steeped in pitbull propaganda to even begin to comprehend it.
I'm guessing you didn't see my previous post?
But just fyi not all pits are born with that innate gameness in them. I've owned enough pits and been around them my whole life so i know this.
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Yeah, regularly maiming, mauling and killing children is real admirable.
I'm not for or against pitbulls...but, they're fucking pitbulls. I would never own one.
"They make such great family dogs..they are so loyal" hahahaha. .they were bred to kill things you nitwit..one day it's little doggie brain might decide to kill YOU. no thanks...LOL.
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Yeah, regularly maiming, mauling and killing children is real admirable.
Sounds like an emotional reply. Can't argue with someone crying.
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I'm guessing you didn't see my previous post?
But just fyi not all pits are born with that innate gameness in them. I've owned enough pits and been around them my whole life so i know this.
So what. Very few drunk drivers ever harm or kill anybody, doesn't make drink driving any less of a risk. Very few vermin spread disease or harm or kill anyone, yet you are free to kill as many of them as you like. And the point you make is the very problem, due to so few being a risk, it is impossible to predict with any certainty which pitbull will be next to attack and cause serious injury or death. Everyone would be safer if ALL pitbulls were dangerous, then society would just take the same measures they do with dangerous wild animals like lions or bears. The whole issue is the two competing interests, the do gooders attempting to convert a fighting breed into a companion animal and those who continue to breed for the dogs original purpose and keep the game in.
The do-gooders should have never touched the breed, they are the problem. It was a nice fairy tale, Goodness turns violent fighting dog into sweet gentle companion animal, only it didn't work out like that. Now pitbull fatalities are inevitable, and have gone from an average of 5 a year in the 1980's to over 18 a year in the 2000's and climbing.
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I've been bitten by a shitzu, chihuahua, a rabbit and a turtle. Never in my life have I been bitten by a pit bull.
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Sounds like an emotional reply. Can't argue with someone crying.
WoW! Sounds like a normal response from a normal human being to innocent children being violently attacked and killed. Your response sounds like the typical response of a sociopath. I understand now why you are attracted to pitbulls,
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Genetics are genetics.
Black people are dumb
Indians smell.
Fish swim.
Birds fly.
Pitbulls bite.
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So what. Very few drunk drivers ever harm or kill anybody, doesn't make drink driving any less of a risk. Very few vermin spread disease or harm or kill anyone, yet you are free to kill as many of them as you like. And the point you make is the very problem, due to so few being a risk, it is impossible to predict with any certainty which pitbull will be next to attack and cause serious injury or death. Everyone would be safer if ALL pitbulls were dangerous, then society would just take the same measures they do with dangerous wild animals like lions or bears. The whole issue is the two competing interests, the do gooders attempting to convert a fighting breed into a companion animal and those who continue to breed for the dogs original purpose and keep the game in.
The do-gooders should have never touched the breed, they are the problem. It was a nice fairy tale, Goodness turns violent fighting dog into sweet gentle companion animal, only it didn't work out like that. Now pitbull fatalities are inevitable, and have gone from an average of 5 a year in the 1980's to over 18 a year in the 2000's and climbing.
You're a PETA supporting fagget. I won't bother even attempting to have a rational discussion with you because you're totally incapable. You're too emotional.
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You're a PETA supporting fagget. I won't bother even attempting to have a rational discussion with you because you're totally incapable. You're too emotional.
Translation: The cognitive dissonance I will experience being confronted with someone with actual factual information would be too much for me to handle. Rather than listen to someone who has actually investigated the issue thoroughly I will stick with the propaganda I currently have. Besides, pitbulls make me feel macho and make my cock really hard. Pitbulls ROOL! Fuck YEAH!
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These pitbull threads are always funny. People so upset about a few dog deaths, yet completely unconcerned about cigarettes, drugs, alcohol, gang violence, toxins in the food and water....on and on....lol. Yeah, let's ban a breed to save a couple dozen people a year.
Carry on crybabies.
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I have a pack of gamebred pits that I sic on PETA faggets.
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Wendy wouldn't harm a fly and could probably bench more than 90% of Getbiggers.
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I've been bitten by a shitzu, chihuahua, a rabbit and a turtle. Never in my life have I been bitten by a pit bull.
I've caught a cold from exposure to chilly weather, crashed my car in heavy rain and fog and got severely sunburned in hot weather. But never in my life has a cyclone, hurricane, earthquake or lightning harmed me. I guess that settles it, my experience must constitute reality, cyclones, hurricanes, earthquakes and lightning must be safe and any attempts to protect oneself from them is pointless and moot.
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sure bro hope this helps ??? that does say labs doesnt it ???
from Wikipedia
Hahahhahaha, way to post 33 year old literature that was taken from newspapers. ::) Here, let's try something a little more recent:
2012 dog bite fatalities :
Information gathered by DogsBite.org is verifiable1 through Internet archive services. Our Fatality Citations section documents each source used in our dog bite-related fatality research.
2012 statistics
38 U.S. fatal dog attacks occurred in 2012. Despite being regulated in Military Housing areas and over 600 U.S. cities, pit bulls contributed to 61% (23) of these deaths. Pit bulls make up less than 5% of the total U.S. dog population.
Together, pit bulls (23) and rottweilers (3), the second most lethal dog breed, accounted for 68% of all fatal attacks in 2012. In the 8-year period from 2005 to 2012, this combination accounted for 73% (183) of the total recorded deaths (251).
The breakdown between pit bulls and rottweilers is substantial over this 8-year period. From 2005 to 2012, pit bulls killed 151 Americans, about one citizen every 19 days, versus rottweilers, which killed 32, about one citizen every 91 days.
Annual data from 2012 shows that 50% (19) of the victims were adults, 21-years and older, and the other half were children, ages 8-years and younger. Of the total children killed by dogs in 2012, 79% (15) were ages 2-years and younger.
Annual data also shows that males were more often victims, 61% (23), than females. The majority of male victims, 61% (14), were ages 8-years and younger. Of the total female victims, only 33% (5) fell into this same age group.
In 2012, roughly one-third, 32% (12), of all dog bite fatality victims were either visiting or living temporarily with the dog's owner when the fatal attack occurred. Children 8-years and younger accounted for 75% (9) of these deaths.
34% (13) of all fatalities in 2012 involved more than one dog; 13% (5) involved breeding on the dog owner's property either actively or in the recent past, and 5% (2) involved tethered dogs, down from 6% in 2011, 9% in 2010 and 19% in 2009.
In 2012, dogs referred to as a "rescue" accounted for at least 13% (5) attacks that resulted in death. Children suffered the brunt of these attacks with 3 deaths. The adults afflicted, 2 adult females, were killed by their own pack of "rescued" dogs.
Dog ownership information for 2012 shows that family dogs comprised 58% (22) of all fatal occurrences; 82% (31) of all incidents occurred on the dog owner's property and 18% (7) resulted in criminal charges, down from 29% in 2011.
California and North Carolina led fatalities in 2012, each with 4 deaths. 75% of the California deaths occurred in San Diego County. Pit bull-type dogs accounted for 88% (7) of the 8 deaths. New Mexico, Ohio and Texas followed, each with 3 deaths
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http://www.examiner.com/article/child-attacked-by-dog-latest-incident-that-has-nothing-to-do-with-pit-bulls
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So let's see, a 15 month old was bitten by a lab mix, and survived? Interesting, I thought for sure labs were vicious killers on par with pitbulls. Maybe this infant has super human strength. You posting this link just reaffirms what everyone has been saying. "Pitbulls kill people. Other breeds do not." :D
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now kid your selves ALL you want, that these types of dogs are great pets... they are fighting dogs, with fighting aggressive temperament
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dont get me wrong, he was a baby in the house, wanted on your knee all night etc... nightmare with animals soon as he hit 18month tho
the three types i pointed out sum up every fighting dog ive came across
i have had and have so called fighting dogs and sll of them have been just fine with other doc cause i have socialised them from they where puppies..but i totally understand where you coming from. It is not a dog for everyone
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I'm afraid of Princess L dogs
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English Bull Terriers and English Staffys are not banned in the UK I believe, but the Pit Bull is. Makes you wonder...
same in norway. American staffordshire and pitbull is banned but not stqff8rdshire bullterriers.
Sidenote couple of yeqrs ago the staffordshire bt was the most common dog in London and the 3rd most common in england
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How about y'all post statistics of how many dog attacks are recorded , instead of which dog causes the most deaths. Its like showing statistics of gun shots involving a 50 cal , of course almost every 50 cal results in a death or dismemberment. But a shooting is a shooting and intended to kill person on the other end of the bullet but some bullets "dog breed" are better at doing the intended thing
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How about y'all post statistics of how many dog attacks are recorded , instead of which dog causes the most deaths. Its like showing statistics of gun shots involving a 50 cal , of course almost every 50 cal results in a death or dismemberment. But a shooting is a shooting and intended to kill person on the other end of the bullet but some bullets "dog breed" are better at doing the intended thing
You're comparing apples to oranges. There is no argument that all dogs bite. Chihuahuas probably account for the most attacks. However, they don't do damage. Your gun analogy is incorrect. A better comparison would be the effects of toy guns vs real guns. :D
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But its the behavior I'm referring to its apples to apples just one apple has higher success rate when it decides to attack..... shooting is shooting some cal have a better success rate and human attacks are human attacks just some attackers have a better success rate .... robbery is robbery just some races have a better success rate
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same in norway. American staffordshire and pitbull is banned but not stqff8rdshire bullterriers.
Sidenote couple of yeqrs ago the staffordshire bt was the most common dog in London and the 3rd most common in england
So, the dog fighting breed that the Pitbull is based from is NOT banned, and is continued to be bred underground for fighting, and the American Pitbull which looks similar is banned. So, in theory, people can continue to breed dogs for fighting and call them English Staffys...
One, breed discrimination. Two, a loophole.
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So, the dog fighting breed that the Pitbull is based from is NOT banned, and is continued to be bred underground for fighting, and the American Pitbull which looks similar is banned. So, in theory, people can continue to breed dogs for fighting and call them English Staffys...
One, breed discrimination. Two, a loophole.
They RESTRICT American Pitbulls, they allow the American and English Staffordshire.(they have the same legislation here in Australia) This is how the Nutters get around the legislation , they simply register their pitbull as an American Staffordshire. You generally just need proof from a Kennel Club or Veterinarian, who are all too happy to play along.
The whole renaming process started over 80 years ago to distance themselves from the fact they were bred to fight in Pits. Initially the AKC rejected the pitbull breed, and in response the UKC was formed (started by a dogfighter), simply to register the pitbull breed. Back then, for your pitbull to be accepted into the registry, it had to have won three fights, a requirement they later dropped). The AKC eventually relented, and during the depression allowed pitbulls onto their books, but only under the name Staffordshire terrier,which they later changed to American Staffordshire. You can dual register your pitbull, the UKC register it as an American Pitbull and the AKC as an American Staffordshire.
And just because American Pitbulls are restricted, doesn't mean you can't own one, just that you have greater responsibilities, they must be caged in secure housing, they must wear a muzzle and fluoro collar in public etc etc. It's just the types of people who are attracted to the breed don't want to go to such effort, taking responsibility for those types of people isn't their strong suit.
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How about y'all post statistics of how many dog attacks are recorded , instead of which dog causes the most deaths. Its like showing statistics of gun shots involving a 50 cal , of course almost every 50 cal results in a death or dismemberment. But a shooting is a shooting and intended to kill person on the other end of the bullet but some bullets "dog breed" are better at doing the intended thing
Bar Chart of Dog attack deaths and maimings, U.S. & Canada, September 1982 to December 31, 2012, by Merritt Clifton, Animal People, December 31, 2012.
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Bar Chart of Dog attack deaths and maimings, U.S. & Canada, September 1982 to December 31, 2012, by Merritt Clifton, Animal People, December 31, 2012.
yes I agree with you that the pit has all the death but what's the odds of a dog attack being a pitbull... its like I rarely fight but when I do I'll fuck you up bad but others fight 10x more then me
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yes I agree with you that the pit has all the death but what's the odds of a dog attack being a pitbull... its like I rarely fight but when I do I'll fuck you up bad but others fight 10x more then me
I think it's quite high, especially if you take into consideration dog on dog attacks. I live in Australia, and only have access to the stats they have here, which are pretty crappy, the one state that records dog attack incidents is the NSW Government, and I recently did a comparative chart highlighting the Pitbull Attack rate.
Taking a sample of a typical quarterly report, using the data collected from the (4th Quarter 2011/12), and using the 5 most popular breeds as an example to compare to the three breeds most commonly referred to as pitbulls. Here is the following data on Dog Attack Incidents Dog attack incidents reported by all councils from 1 April 2012 to 30 June 2012 (4th Quarter 2011/12) Quarterly NSW Report-Australia
The following is a quarterly comparison between Pitbull attack incidents opposed to the 4 most popular breeds of dog in NSW. The following are the top 5 most popular breeds in NSW Australia. Pitbull (American Staffy/Pitbull/ English Staffy) 93637, Labrador Retriever 75851, Jack Russell Terrier 64591, Maltese Terrier 55164, Border Collie 48637.
In this quarter pitbulls were responsible for 243 attacks while the other 4 popular breeds were responsible for 73, even though the other four popular breeds outnumbered pitbulls 2.6 to 1. Put another way, if the popular breeds attacked as much as pitbulls did, the figure of 73 attacks would be roughly 630. Or the other way around, if pitbulls attacked at the same ratio as the other 4 popular breeds, the figure would go from 243 to 28. So even though pitbulls are less than 2/5th of the Popular dog population in this sample, a pitbull attack is over 8 1/2 times more likely.
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Na fuck that graph , there is only one Hugh risk dog on there that ain't fair
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Na fuck that graph , there is only one Hugh risk dog on there that ain't fair
It's a comparative chart, highlighting the attack rate of the top 5 most popular breeds, it is these dogs that make up a large percentage of the dog population. It also highlights how it is a breed issue. If other comparatively popular breeds attack at a significantly lower rate than pitbulls, there has to be a reason for this.
And no doubt there are other dangerous breeds, but at the moment, the pit bull is highly popular, significantly increasing everyone's actuarial risk.
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Pittbull owner for life. I love the breed. 8)
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Na fuck that graph , there is only one Hugh risk dog on there that ain't fair
It's not just attack rate, nor is temperament the issue, nor is it even relevant. What is relevant is actuarial risk. If almost any other dog has a bad moment, someone may get bitten, but will not be maimed for life or killed, and the actuarial risk is accordingly reasonable. If a pit bull terrier or a Rottweiler has a bad moment, often someone is maimed or killed and that has now created off-the-chart actuarial risk.
Pitbulls, due to their lineage have a unique ability to inflict maximum damage in a short period of time. Essentially they have unique attack attributes, some of which have been Noted in Court.
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Love the breed! 8)
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Pittbull owner for life. I love the breed. 8)
Like that wasn't hard to tell, your cold indifference to human life was more than enough evidence.
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Like that wasn't hard to tell, your cold indifference to human life was more than enough evidence.
Didn't read! Too busy in love with the breed!
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Whoa guys, are you suggesting that if someone owns a pitbull and name him "pain", he's just trying to look hardcore??
These people actually have followers ? Fucking wow ?
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Love the breed! 8)
Yeah, awesome breed!
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It's a comparative chart, highlighting the attack rate of the top 5 most popular breeds, it is these dogs that make up a large percentage of the dog population. It also highlights how it is a breed issue. If other comparatively popular breeds attack at a significantly lower rate than pitbulls, there has to be a reason for this.
And no doubt there are other dangerous breeds, but at the moment, the pit bull is highly popular, significantly increasing everyone's actuarial risk.
thats fine but my argument is with all breeds together as a whole .... but I'm not going to fight and say theses dogs don't do what they do I know what they are capable and I hold full responsibility of what my dog does and I know what and where he should not be .... he serves a purpose other then family companion he is the protectorof my home and wifey when iI'm on the the road working .... us a pit the best family dog ? Oh hell no but I believe it can be the most loyal dog that you can find if brought up to protect the owner ....... I welcome anyone and everyone to play with my big boy just don't creep up or in my home , truck or seem to be a threat he will fuck you up
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Only ignorance and stupidity could best describe a person who judges a dog without knowing it. How many pitbulls has e-kul owned? Zero.
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It's not just attack rate, nor is temperament the issue, nor is it even relevant. What is relevant is actuarial risk. If almost any other dog has a bad moment, someone may get bitten, but will not be maimed for life or killed, and the actuarial risk is accordingly reasonable. If a pit bull terrier or a Rottweiler has a bad moment, often someone is maimed or killed and that has now created off-the-chart actuarial risk.
Pitbulls, due to their lineage have a unique ability to inflict maximum damage in a short period of time. Essentially they have unique attack attributes, some of which have been Noted in Court.
I agree , and some of us humans are the same way and maybe that's why I'm like this . I'm a great person but push me past my breaking point which is hard and I will do severe damage to you I will gut you open or shoot you
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Simply the best. Never quits. Never surrenders. It will be the absolute best at what you want it to be.
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I agree , and some of us humans are the same way and maybe that's why I'm like this . I'm a great person but push me past my breaking point which is hard and I will do severe damage to you I will gut you open or shoot you
Although there are some well trained humans that could be considered dangerous, nothing compares to the fighting prowess of a game pitbull. We are talking about an animal, with nothing else besides it's physical attributes can severely injure and kill a man three times his size. Within moments he can sever tendons and muscles and before long rupture a major artery causing one to bleed out. If needed, the dog can fight on like this for hours, and can also fight with broken limbs if need be.
I have fought grown men on several occasions, on two occasions I have fought two men at a time (one time the other party had weapons), I have also squared off with two pitbulls, and nothing in my prior experience even remotely comes close to the aggressive raw power of a game pitbull.
One game pitbull on it's own can be reasonably defended against (maybe), but once there is two or more, the pack advantage begins to significantly tip the odds in the dogs favor.
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Didn't read! Too busy in love with the breed!
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Simply the best. Never quits. Never surrenders. It will be the absolute best at what you want it to be.
Well, they certainly are the best at ripping innocent children's scalps off, I will give them that.
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Although there are some well trained humans that could be considered dangerous, nothing compares to the fighting prowess of a game pitbull. We are talking about an animal, with nothing else besides it's physical attributes can severely injure and kill a man three times his size. Within moments he can sever tendons and muscles and before long rupture a major artery causing one to bleed out. If needed, the dog can fight on like this for hours, and can also fight with broken limbs if need be.
I have fought grown men on several occasions, on two occasions I have fought two men at a time (one time the other party had weapons), I have also squared off with two pitbulls, and nothing in my prior experience even remotely comes close to the aggressive raw power of a game pitbull.
One game pitbull on it's own can be reasonably defended against (maybe), but once there is two or more, the pack advantage begins to significantly tip the odds in the dogs favor.
And don't you ever forget that buddy. Because if by some miracle you and your kind actually grow a pair and decide to come knocking we'll be ready and waiting for you.
Good luck.
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Only ignorance and stupidity could best describe a person who judges a dog without knowing it. How many pitbulls has e-kul owned? Zero.
Once again you show your ignorance, I have been around the block before idiot, I have owned a pitbull, many of my friends have owned them and I also have a tattoo of one on my back. My personal experience with them only reinforces what I know of the breed. Nobody is judging an individual dog, they are judging the breed. It has nothing to do with love or hate for a breed of dog, I love all manner of big cats, lions, leopards, panthers, even wild dogs, hyenas, wolves etc. I don't want some idiot walking one as a pet down my street though.
The problem is, you take your personal experience and believe that constitutes reality,you may well own a pitbull that has had the game bred out of it, but it is impossible to tell. A game pitbull is indistinguishable from a non game pitbull, THAT'S THE PROBLEM. The difference between you and I is that I am simply HONEST about the breed. I don't need to tell myself lies to comfort or reassure myself. I currently don't own a breed of dog that is over six times more likely to attack it's owner. I currently don't own a breed of dog that has killed more people than all other breeds of dog combined. Pitbulls were created with the sole purpose of killing other dogs, and that alone makes it the antithesis of what a dog is supposed to be. Pitbulls aren't owned by dog lovers, but self centered narcissists who derive some twisted psychological benefit from associating with such an animal. Kind of like a pathetic wimpy type kid latching onto a group of older kids for some type of protection and hopefully some transference.
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I have been around the block before idiot, I have owned a pitbull, many of my friends have owned them and I also have a tattoo of one on my back.
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And don't you ever forget that buddy. Because if by some miracle you and your kind actually grow a pair and decide to come knocking we'll be ready and waiting for you.
Good luck.
Like you would last two seconds against someone else game pitbulls. You're a joke. The insecurity just oozes out of you. You are such a cliche pitbull owner, it's laughable. That one sentence highlights how you derive some artificial feeling of power or strength by associating with pitbulls. I have dealt with Nutters for years, one thing I know of them, they are ALL COWARDS, without their dogs, they are fearful, weak minded wimps. If I had a dollar for every veiled threat I had from a Nutter, I would be a rich man. It's that faux tough guy image that ensures pitbull nutters are pretty much universally despised.
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Only ignorance and stupidity could best describe a person who judges a dog without knowing it. How many pitbulls has e-kul owned? Zero.
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Like you would last two seconds against someone else game pitbulls. You're a joke. The insecurity just oozes out of you. You are such a cliche pitbull owner, it's laughable. That one sentence highlights how you derive some artificial feeling of power or strength by associating with pitbulls. I have dealt with Nutters for years, one thing I know of them, they are ALL COWARDS, without their dogs, they are fearful, weak minded wimps. If I had a dollar for every veiled threat I had from a Nutter, I would be a rich man. It's that faux tough guy image that ensures pitbull nutters are pretty much universally despised.
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Meltdown. ;D
The great thing about this thread is you've accomplished absolutely nothing. I didn't even entertain a single one of your so called arguments lol. I love pitbulls. I'll continue to be a pitbull owner. I'll even continue to promote responsible pitbull ownership in my neighborhood and where ever me and my pits go. You should see my block... so many pits. It's glorious.
Enjoy your meltdown. I'll enjoy owning pitbulls. I win.
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Although there are some well trained humans that could be considered dangerous, nothing compares to the fighting prowess of a game pitbull. We are talking about an animal, with nothing else besides it's physical attributes can severely injure and kill a man three times his size. Within moments he can sever tendons and muscles and before long rupture a major artery causing one to bleed out. If needed, the dog can fight on like this for hours, and can also fight with broken limbs if need be.
I have fought grown men on several occasions, on two occasions I have fought two men at a time (one time the other party had weapons), I have also squared off with two pitbulls, and nothing in my prior experience even remotely comes close to the aggressive raw power of a game pitbull.
One game pitbull on it's own can be reasonably defended against (maybe), but once there is two or more, the pack advantage begins to significantly tip the odds in the dogs favor.
true but key word game pit bull... mine is not I've seen h!ard ass fighting pits and they can destroy my pretty boy.... the one I put down was a beautiful specimen , she weighed 55 lbs and in a single bounce could clear a 6 foot privacy fence , I've seen her almost run up a tree and catch a tree rat one night a dog across the street got out and was charging me and she ran from inside the house and got between me and the other dog in the most serious stance I've ever seen she didn't chase it she stood there ready to defend me........ I wish I could help the breed but there are way more FUCKTARDS out there then me and its a loosing battle.
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To ignore the possibility that pitbulls may have a genetic disposition for aggression is ludicrous. Science has shown that parents pass on genetics to their children, and this includes temperament and personality. So it is entirely plausible that when 2 aggressive pitbulls breed, they may pass on the aggressive gene to offspring. And since pitbulls are often bred for aggression and fighting, it makes sense that their offspring will be this way.
I do not know if pitbulls always had an innate gene for aggression or whether it was produced by humans. But in order to break the chain of aggression, they need to stop treating pitbulls in that way. Hopefully that will decrease the chances of them passing on those aggressive genes to their offspring.
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Ignore e kul he is a lier and have told so many lies thst he forcegs whst he said. Like tve koran (quran?) Once he said thst i never going to read it and before that he had read it. Same with how many pitbulls he have had, the number changes from time to time
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lol ;D
Ignore e kul he is a lier and have told so many lies thst he forcegs whst he said. Like tve koran (quran?) Once he said thst i never going to read it and before that he had read it. Same with how many pitbulls he have had, the number changes from time to time
I can't tell if your drunk or if you have BROKEN English
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I can't tell if your drunk or if you have BROKEN English
lol my english sucks and in im writing from my Phone so i often press the wrong letter because of my big fingers but hey atleast im not as bad as dave checkz.
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in fact the poodle records more bites a year on humans than any other breed???
Source please? Such a statistic would also need to be corrected for size of the breed population.
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And don't you ever forget that buddy. Because if by some miracle you and your kind actually grow a pair and decide to come knocking we'll be ready and waiting for you.
Good luck.
You come across as a primitive macho bully and you prove E-kul's point.
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Meltdown. ;D
The great thing about this thread is you've accomplished absolutely nothing. I didn't even entertain a single one of your so called arguments lol. I love pitbulls. I'll continue to be a pitbull owner. I'll even continue to promote responsible pitbull ownership in my neighborhood and where ever me and my pits go. You should see my block... so many pits. It's glorious.
Enjoy your meltdown. I'll enjoy owning pitbulls. I win.
Your arguments are basically only that
1) You like Pitbulls
2) Pitbulls can be great pets
3. It's the owners responsibility if a Pitbull does harm
4) Other breeds can be aggressive too
I'll answer these for you:
1) Good for you that you live in a country where they are legal then, cause in many countries pitbulls are banned
2) Comparable to playing with loaded guns and leave them in your house for your children to play with- good fun until they are dead or injured
3) Does not help those who are harmed. Is there a legislation/license for having Pitbulls? No! How can then a society accept the risk of accepting pitbulls in public places?
4) Sure, and those who kill or seriously injure people should also not be allowed.
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To ignore the possibility that pitbulls may have a genetic disposition for aggression is ludicrous. Science has shown that parents pass on genetics to their children, and this includes temperament and personality. So it is entirely plausible that when 2 aggressive pitbulls breed, they may pass on the aggressive gene to offspring. And since pitbulls are often bred for aggression and fighting, it makes sense that their offspring will be this way.
I do not know if pitbulls always had an innate gene for aggression or whether it was produced by humans. But in order to break the chain of aggression, they need to stop treating pitbulls in that way. Hopefully that will decrease the chances of them passing on those aggressive genes to their offspring.
You do realize that a fighting dog that bit a person would be put down right? This breed was not bred to be human aggressive. People have taken the breeds genetic traits and manipulated them to take advantage of them. At what point do genetics give way other influences?
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bad dogs are usually the result of bad owners
its as simple as that
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At what point do genetics give way other influences?
When I meet a woman with a magical personality I'll let you know. Until then I'm an ass man.
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bad dogs are usually the result of bad owners
its as simple as that
This. The "gangsta" culture and it's glorification in mainstream media has oversaturated the population of "pitbulls". Many cases of "pitbull" attacks aren't even pits, just "pitbull type" dogs. :-\
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When I meet a woman with a magical personality I'll let you know. Until then I'm an ass man.
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chocolate starfish?
backdoor belly button?
flesh donut?
sludge slide?
I know, sounds like just the sort of Caribbean vacation you've been meaning to take, right?
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You know damn well I didn't mean the tradesman's entrance!
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You know damn well I didn't mean the tradesman's entrance!
I thought you were being subtle.
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You do realize that a fighting dog that bit a person would be put down right? This breed was not bred to be human aggressive. People have taken the breeds genetic traits and manipulated them to take advantage of them. At what point do genetics give way other influences?
It may not have been originally bred for aggression, but unfortunately they are now, and they will continue to pass on their genes for as long as humans keep treating them that way.
There is often a reciprocal nature between environment and genetics. The environment influences the expression of genes. The whole nature vs nurture debate is rather old, as most scientists believe there is a relationship between genes and environment. The environment will determine if the pitbulls aggressive gene is expressed or not.
Gene-Environment Interactions
Environmental factors are certainly critical in defining phenotypes during early development, as in the armadillos, and they continue to influence phenotypes throughout an organism's life cycle. Nearly every aspect of our development and behavior is affected by both the personal experiences we gain through our environment and our genetic makeup. For example, we obtain necessary amino acids through our diets, and the incorporation of these nutrients into our bodies is determined by our genes. It is also important to remember that genes are not a steadfast blueprint for heredity. Genes are actually quite active throughout our lives, switching their expression on and off in response to the environment and experience. Environmental factors can affect and alter gene expression, while our genes can define how we respond to different environments.
In an age in which scientists and the public are excited about the sequencing of the entire human genome, we need to temper that excitement, at least a little, and be careful not to believe all the hype surrounding genes' involvement in determining development and behavior. While an organism's genetic makeup plays a critical role in its development, there is also a rich and complex interplay between the genome and cues from the environment. It is not a question of which one affects us more, nature (heredity) or nurture (environment); instead, it is a question of how signals that are not hard-coded interact with our genetics to make us complex individuals. Indeed, it is actually superficial to debate whether nature or nurture is more important. In truth, the relationship between genetic determinants and the environment is so completely entwined that you cannot look at an individual and judge which contribution is more valuable. Together, the continual interplay of both genes and ever-changing environmental factors determines who we are.