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Title: Not to sound racist/xenophobic
Post by: Irongrip400 on November 19, 2013, 02:10:31 PM
I'm not trying to break the forum rules, but this is just a question for our European getbiggers. As I'm watching football(soccer for you uncultured folks) and each country has its own team. Why on earth are there black men on the European teams? I'm an American, and I know that America is multicultural, which I like. I could care less about immigrants from the south, that's what America is for, the land of opportunity. Let everybody who can contribute in. But, we were started as a colony, the European, Asian, and African continents are where we all actually come from. Is Europe going to become the new "melting pot"? I had an awakening  while in Europe, and think every white person should visit, as should every Hebrew visit Africa. But that's just it, I think we should all stay in our respective areas, except us colonists here in America. After all, America is a business, not a people. What say you, my European brethren?
Title: Re: Not to sound racist/xenophobic
Post by: mik1111 on November 19, 2013, 02:13:06 PM
use some paragraphs man
Title: Re: Not to sound racist/xenophobic
Post by: Army of One on November 19, 2013, 02:13:13 PM
I'm not trying to break the forum rules, but this is just a question for our European getbiggers. As I'm watching football(soccer for you uncultured folks) and each country has its own team. Why on earth are there black men on the European teams? I'm an American, and I know that America is multicultural, which I like. I could care less about immigrants from the south, that's what America is for, the land of opportunity. Let everybody who can contribute in. But, we were started as a colony, the European, Asian, and African continents are where we all actually come from. Is Europe going to become the new "melting pot"? I had an awakening  while in Europe, and think every white person should visit, as should every Hebrew visit Africa. But that's just it, I think we should all stay in our respective areas, except us colonists here in America. After all, America is a business, not a people. What say you, my European brethren?

Pretty sure there was a point recently where the whole French football (soccer) national team on the field were black.
Title: Re: Not to sound racist/xenophobic
Post by: JasonH on November 19, 2013, 02:14:26 PM
Europe is more ethnically diverse than you think.

Not to mention in football/soccer they've got rules where if your grandparents were born in such-and-such country then you're eligible to play for that national team where you may not have been born or even spent much time in. Happens all the time.
Title: Re: Not to sound racist/xenophobic
Post by: Cleanest Natural on November 19, 2013, 02:16:32 PM
All athletic blacks already play in the NFL, NBA, MLB and track and field  ;D
Title: Re: Not to sound racist/xenophobic
Post by: che on November 19, 2013, 02:18:11 PM
I'm not trying to break the forum rules, but this is just a question for our European getbiggers. As I'm watching football(soccer for you uncultured folks) and each country has its own team. Why on earth are there black men on the European teams? I'm an American, and I know that America is multicultural, which I like. I could care less about immigrants from the south, that's what America is for, the land of opportunity. Let everybody who can contribute in. But, we were started as a colony, the European, Asian, and African continents are where we all actually come from. Is Europe going to become the new "melting pot"? I had an awakening  while in Europe, and think every white person should visit, as should every Hebrew visit Africa. But that's just it, I think we should all stay in our respective areas, except us colonists here in America. After all, America is a business, not a people. What say you, my European brethren?

You don't sound racist/xenophobic , you sound retarded.
Title: Re: Not to sound racist/xenophobic
Post by: Kwon_2 on November 19, 2013, 02:19:18 PM
I'm not trying to break the forum rules, but this is just a question for our European getbiggers. As I'm watching football(soccer for you uncultured folks) and each country has its own team. Why on earth are there black men on the European teams? I'm an American, and I know that America is multicultural, which I like. I could care less about immigrants from the south, that's what America is for, the land of opportunity. Let everybody who can contribute in. But, we were started as a colony, the European, Asian, and African continents are where we all actually come from. Is Europe going to become the new "melting pot"? I had an awakening  while in Europe, and think every white person should visit, as should every Hebrew visit Africa. But that's just it, I think we should all stay in our respective areas, except us colonists here in America. After all, America is a business, not a people. What say you, my European brethren?

It's all about money, no more principle :D
Hebrews represent France these days

If you have a (much) bigger chance to win with hebrew-players as a French team, you'd prolly see the whole French team being black :D
Title: Re: Not to sound racist/xenophobic
Post by: Nick II on November 19, 2013, 02:35:00 PM
I get what you're trying to say..but Europe is not going to turn into Africa like all the white nationalist want you to believe
Title: Re: Not to sound racist/xenophobic
Post by: Irongrip400 on November 19, 2013, 03:04:02 PM
use some paragraphs man

Sorry bro, no dice, typing this on an iphone(outed).
Title: Re: Not to sound racist/xenophobic
Post by: Kwon_2 on November 19, 2013, 03:19:47 PM
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Title: Re: Not to sound racist/xenophobic
Post by: Primemuscle on November 19, 2013, 04:01:14 PM
I say you are not as worldly as you think you are and you also are a racist.
Title: Re: Not to sound racist/xenophobic
Post by: NYSTATEOFMIND on November 19, 2013, 04:15:09 PM
You don't sound racist/xenophobic , you sound retarded.

this

do you think blacks are only in America and Africa?  ::)
Title: Re: Not to sound racist/xenophobic
Post by: CARTEL on November 19, 2013, 04:22:50 PM
this

do you think blacks are only in America and Africa?  ::)

Weren't they kidnapped from Detroit and taken to Africa and Europe as slaves?
Title: Re: Not to sound racist/xenophobic
Post by: B_B_C on November 19, 2013, 05:04:30 PM
I'm not trying to break the forum rules, but this is just a question for our European getbiggers. As I'm watching football(soccer for you uncultured folks) and each country has its own team. Why on earth are there black men on the European teams? I'm an American, and I know that America is multicultural, which I like. I could care less about immigrants from the south, that's what America is for, the land of opportunity. Let everybody who can contribute in. But, we were started as a colony, the European, Asian, and African continents are where we all actually come from. Is Europe going to become the new "melting pot"? I had an awakening  while in Europe, and think every white person should visit, as should every Hebrew visit Africa. But that's just it, I think we should all stay in our respective areas, except us colonists here in America. After all, America is a business, not a people. What say you, my European brethren?

Europe has always been a melting pot - that is why it has been in perpetual periodic war though it is hundreds of years since it based its local economy on feudalism (Russia excepted) or slavery.  
Based on the way you have written this post, your lack of research and  the way you style your questions suggest you have already decided the acceptable answers  you seem to bring forward clear and present linkage between racism and stupidity.
Title: Re: Not to sound racist/xenophobic
Post by: galeniko on November 19, 2013, 05:17:42 PM
I'm not trying to break the forum rules, but this is just a question for our European getbiggers. As I'm watching football(soccer for you uncultured folks) and each country has its own team. Why on earth are there black men on the European teams? I'm an American, and I know that America is multicultural, which I like. I could care less about immigrants from the south, that's what America is for, the land of opportunity. Let everybody who can contribute in. But, we were started as a colony, the European, Asian, and African continents are where we all actually come from. Is Europe going to become the new "melting pot"? I had an awakening  while in Europe, and think every white person should visit, as should every Hebrew visit Africa. But that's just it, I think we should all stay in our respective areas, except us colonists here in America. After all, America is a business, not a people. What say you, my European brethren?
uk, netherlands, portugal spain, all had colonies and granted the offspring of these ppl citizenship.

and they happen to be the superior football players, the slick managers and clubs woulnt pay them multi millions if they were worthless.

and liberal immigration policy,which i think is a good thing in the current times.

the world isnt the same anymore where ppl traveled with donkeys.

Title: Re: Not to sound racist/xenophobic
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 19, 2013, 05:21:07 PM
uk, netherlands, portugal spain, all had colonies and granted the offspring of these ppl citizenship.

and they happen to be the superior football players, the slick managers and clubs woulnt pay them multi millions if they were worthless.

and liberal immigration policy,which i think is a good thing in the current times.

the world isnt the same anymore where ppl traveled with donkeys.



Liberal immigration policies is ruining europe.  No problem with some but you guys have taken it overboard. 
Title: Re: Not to sound racist/xenophobic
Post by: galeniko on November 19, 2013, 05:24:07 PM
Liberal immigration policies is ruining europe.  No problem with some but you guys have taken it overboard. 
the usa is no better i hear.

well, the govt says the only take in highly skilled workforces, but then they take the inskilled who work for cheap money.

its not a natioanl thing, its globalisation.

and they not supposed to get govt handouts, but theres always loopholes and before you can say heil hitler they have become citrizens ;D

Title: Re: Not to sound racist/xenophobic
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 19, 2013, 05:24:49 PM
I'm still trying to figure out why no one thinks it is racist to call the Notre Dame football team the fighting Irish. Last time I looked there were a lot of black guys on the team and other nationalities. I wonder how it would go over to name a division I team the fighting Puerto Ricans. I think if there was an Irish player on the team he would be offended.
Title: Re: Not to sound racist/xenophobic
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 19, 2013, 05:25:43 PM
the usa is no better i hear.

well, the govt says the only take in highly skilled workforces, but then they take the inskilled who work for cheap money.

its not a natioanl thing, its globalisation.

and they not supposed to get govt handouts, but theres always loopholes and before you can say heil hitler they have become citrizens ;D




No doubt in the US its a problem with Mexicans.  Its just the euros attitudes with muslims that will be their demise. 

And yes the intent is good but doesnt play out that way.
Title: Re: Not to sound racist/xenophobic
Post by: the trainer on November 19, 2013, 05:25:50 PM
I'm not trying to break the forum rules, but this is just a question for our European getbiggers. As I'm watching football(soccer for you uncultured folks) and each country has its own team. Why on earth are there black men on the European teams? I'm an American, and I know that America is multicultural, which I like. I could care less about immigrants from the south, that's what America is for, the land of opportunity. Let everybody who can contribute in. But, we were started as a colony, the European, Asian, and African continents are where we all actually come from. Is Europe going to become the new "melting pot"? I had an awakening  while in Europe, and think every white person should visit, as should every Hebrew visit Africa. But that's just it, I think we should all stay in our respective areas, except us colonists here in America. After all, America is a business, not a people. What say you, my European brethren?

mixed cultures have being going on since the days of alexander the great if you had some education you would not have made such a stupid thread, its the same as when a dude says i dont want to sound gay but you have a nice ass.
Title: Re: Not to sound racist/xenophobic
Post by: galeniko on November 19, 2013, 05:35:02 PM

No doubt in the US its a problem with Mexicans.  Its just the euros attitudes with muslims that will be their demise. 

And yes the intent is good but doesnt play out that way.
not sure the intent is "good",man.

the poiticians are in bed with the corporations or directly own shares, or are even on managing board-councils.

openly(well,better than secretly atleast).

and they impose those reforms with selfish motives, cheaper labour, more net gains etc.

but then again, many regular pll are share and stockholders of those same companies.

we have to trust our govts, theyre not stupid, and relatively to say feudal times, the general sucker population,is better off.

i still believe the muslims who come here come mainly bc they prefer the western way of life overal, economy etc,i dont think they want impose some caliphate or something.those stay in afganistan usualy and get droned to death by american kids 5000miles away "playing" with joysticks.

it may be risky,it may be naive, but instead of building a "wall" atround them, i think its better to invie them and offer them to somewhat adapt.

if something is unknown or misterous to humans, we are afraid of it and react agressively to it.goes for both sides.

basical, either we can get along or not, lets see if the rule of law can handle and manage it.

Title: Re: Not to sound racist/xenophobic
Post by: Mr Nobody on November 19, 2013, 05:48:10 PM

No doubt in the US its a problem with Mexicans.  Its just the euros attitudes with muslims that will be their demise. 

And yes the intent is good but doesnt play out that way.
I suggest we call in Rufus R "Freight Train" Jones to clean up all this stuff.
Title: Re: Not to sound racist/xenophobic
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 19, 2013, 06:07:12 PM
not sure the intent is "good",man.

the poiticians are in bed with the corporations or directly own shares, or are even on managing board-councils.

openly(well,better than secretly atleast).

and they impose those reforms with selfish motives, cheaper labour, more net gains etc.

but then again, many regular pll are share and stockholders of those same companies.

we have to trust our govts, theyre not stupid, and relatively to say feudal times, the general sucker population,is better off.

i still believe the muslims who come here come mainly bc they prefer the western way of life overal, economy etc,i dont think they want impose some caliphate or something.those stay in afganistan usualy and get droned to death by american kids 5000miles away "playing" with joysticks.

it may be risky,it may be naive, but instead of building a "wall" atround them, i think its better to invie them and offer them to somewhat adapt.

if something is unknown or misterous to humans, we are afraid of it and react agressively to it.goes for both sides.

basical, either we can get along or not, lets see if the rule of law can handle and manage it.



Good points.  I just think the muslims lack of truly wanting to integrate is the real problem.  I really dont even mind the cheaper labor since those who choose to immigrate are still far better off than they would be back home. 

If someone wants to immigrate, bring a little if their own culture and embrace the western world I am all for it.  Just dont try to impose their backwards-ass way of life on everybody else. 
Title: Re: Not to sound racist/xenophobic
Post by: galeniko on November 19, 2013, 06:17:22 PM
Good points.  I just think the muslims lack of truly wanting to integrate is the real problem.  I really dont even mind the cheaper labor since those who choose to immigrate are still far better off than they would be back home. 

If someone wants to immigrate, bring a little if their own culture and embrace the western world I am all for it.  Just dont try to impose their backwards-ass way of life on everybody else. 
yah i see it the exact same way, i dont care if my housing price goes up, or my wage goes down.

peace costs more than ppl think.


btw,here,i mean right here, the immigrants adapt quite good, when in 2nd generation, its mostly all good, 3rd generation,they are already diehard conservative citizens(haha,not wanting to let anyone else on board).

if they get unemloyed some time and that indirectly costs me tax money, dont care.

in the end, most everyone is driven by economic motives and wants a roof and food and some little extras.

religion is slwly laughed off of the earth, this helps to avoid some potential conflicts.

am very happy to hear theres ppl who share the views more or less 8)
Title: Re: Not to sound racist/xenophobic
Post by: Irongrip400 on November 19, 2013, 06:44:18 PM
mixed cultures have being going on since the days of alexander the great if you had some education you would not have made such a stupid thread, the same as when a dude says i dont want to sound gay but you have a nice ass.

No, it's nothing like that. Also, my lack of proper sentence/paragraph structure is due to being on an iPhone, what's your excuse?
Title: Re: Not to sound racist/xenophobic
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 19, 2013, 06:47:39 PM
yah i see it the exact same way, i dont care if my housing price goes up, or my wage goes down.

peace costs more than ppl think.


btw,here,i mean right here, the immigrants adapt quite good, when in 2nd generation, its mostly all good, 3rd generation,they are already diehard conservative citizens(haha,not wanting to let anyone else on board).

if they get unemloyed some time and that indirectly costs me tax money, dont care.

in the end, most everyone is driven by economic motives and wants a roof and food and some little extras.

religion is slwly laughed off of the earth, this helps to avoid some potential conflicts.

am very happy to hear theres ppl who share the views more or less 8)


Great minds think alike.   8)
Title: Re: Not to sound racist/xenophobic
Post by: Tedim on November 19, 2013, 06:48:36 PM
this

do you think blacks are only in America and Africa?  ::)

Also in jails.
Title: Re: Not to sound racist/xenophobic
Post by: WOOO on November 19, 2013, 06:52:45 PM
use some paragraphs man

what about sentence structure, capitalization and punctuation champ
Title: Re: Not to sound racist/xenophobic
Post by: galeniko on November 19, 2013, 06:54:19 PM
mixed cultures have being going on since the days of alexander the great if you had some education you would not have made such a stupid thread, its the same as when a dude says i dont want to sound gay but you have a nice ass.
this beggs the question,when wa the last time where cultures didnt mix?

and how did that end?

todays world, we can travel affordably everywhere, the wars and colonies are mostly things of the past,its time to move on.

am reading a book on lenin, hitler and co currently, lol at hitlers family origin.


Great minds think alike.   8)
i heard so 8) now the homophobes will think "ah look at the naive suckers", but so what.

i cant ever forget how rush limbaugh "promised" hed leave to costa rica, making himself an immigrant.

Also in jails.
an uk.

i have semi black friend, good guy, will work if he has a job, but entirely demotivated to seek one, gets rejected everywhere.

they good people,they dont have different dreams to ours, wel,not by much.diet preferences are different
Title: Re: Not to sound racist/xenophobic
Post by: Parker on November 19, 2013, 06:55:27 PM
I bet the Chinese are laughing their asses off at the Euros---being over run by other peoples, and the politicians who bend over backwards to make it happen.
Title: Re: Not to sound racist/xenophobic
Post by: galeniko on November 19, 2013, 06:59:12 PM
I bet the Chinese are laughing their asses off at the Euros---being over run by other peoples, and the politicians who bend over backwards to make it happen.
i dont think so,the chinese have some emerging problems around the corner themselves.

overly old population, growing "middle class" and many other details.

they depend on the western outsourcing.

they are far from established.the eastern part bordering north korea is an absolute shithole, and its just one of many, that part alone is as big as france.
Title: Re: Not to sound racist/xenophobic
Post by: MikMaq on November 19, 2013, 07:02:14 PM
I'm still trying to figure out why no one thinks it is racist to call the Notre Dame football team the fighting Irish. Last time I looked there were a lot of black guys on the team and other nationalities. I wonder how it would go over to name a division I team the fighting Puerto Ricans. I think if there was an Irish player on the team he would be offended.
That's because the name came from an era when blacks were being lynched. if you think you'd get away with that kind of name now your fucked.
Title: Re: Not to sound racist/xenophobic
Post by: residue on November 19, 2013, 07:03:04 PM
I'm not trying to break the forum rules, but this is just a question for our European getbiggers. As I'm watching football(soccer for you uncultured folks) and each country has its own team. Why on earth are there black men on the European teams? I'm an American, and I know that America is multicultural, which I like. I could care less about immigrants from the south, that's what America is for, the land of opportunity. Let everybody who can contribute in. But, we were started as a colony, the European, Asian, and African continents are where we all actually come from. Is Europe going to become the new "melting pot"? I had an awakening  while in Europe, and think every white person should visit, as should every Hebrew visit Africa. But that's just it, I think we should all stay in our respective areas, except us colonists here in America. After all, America is a business, not a people. What say you, my European brethren?

you should have worried about sounding ignorant and stupid.
Title: Re: Not to sound racist/xenophobic
Post by: Tedim on November 19, 2013, 07:03:55 PM
That's because the name came from an era when blacks were being lynched. if you think you'd get away with that kind of name now your fucked.

How about fighting potato eaters....
Title: Re: Not to sound racist/xenophobic
Post by: residue on November 19, 2013, 07:04:00 PM
I bet the Chinese are laughing their asses off at the Euros---being over run by other peoples, and the politicians who bend over backwards to make it happen.

china have bigger problems to worry about such as their 3rd world infrastructure
Title: Re: Not to sound racist/xenophobic
Post by: Irongrip400 on November 19, 2013, 07:16:22 PM
you should have worried about sounding ignorant and stupid.

Like I said, nothing racist about what I was writing. I believe all blacks in America should visit their homeland, it's good to know where ones roots stem from. I'm sure they'd really enjoy it, as I did returning to Europe. Take a trip man, it'll make you a more enlightened individual.
Title: Re: Not to sound racist/xenophobic
Post by: residue on November 19, 2013, 08:09:04 PM
Like I said, nothing racist about what I was writing. I believe all blacks in America should visit their homeland, it's good to know where ones roots stem from. I'm sure they'd really enjoy it, as I did returning to Europe. Take a trip man, it'll make you a more enlightened individual.
I was born in essex, didnt move to america till after uni
Title: Re: Not to sound racist/xenophobic
Post by: Teutonic Knight on November 20, 2013, 12:19:11 AM
FC Arsenal (London) use to have 18 non British players , only the Doc was English
Croatian hockey club Medvescak all players a from the US/Canada & they play in Russian league  ::)
Without imported football players in EPL British top clubs would be nothing.
Title: Re: Not to sound racist/xenophobic
Post by: B_B_C on November 20, 2013, 04:36:36 AM
I bet the Chinese are laughing their asses off at the Euros---being over run by other peoples, and the politicians who bend over backwards to make it happen.

Its more likely they are laughting at the US making Afganistan, Iraq etc safe for them (China)
Title: Re: Not to sound racist/xenophobic
Post by: Parker on November 20, 2013, 04:53:24 AM
i dont think so,the chinese have some emerging problems around the corner themselves.

overly old population, growing "middle class" and many other details.

they depend on the western outsourcing.

they are far from established.the eastern part bordering north korea is an absolute shithole, and its just one of many, that part alone is as big as france.
Quite true...but in regards to solidarity and dealing with others ethnicities, races, people of other religions moving en mass to their country.
Title: Re: Not to sound racist/xenophobic
Post by: Thick Nick on November 20, 2013, 05:39:13 AM
You don't sound racist/xenophobic , you sound retarded.


This made me lol.
Title: Re: Not to sound racist/xenophobic
Post by: B_B_C on November 20, 2013, 08:08:02 AM
Like I said, nothing racist about what I was writing.

You are being disingenuous. you seem so concerned at not being preceived or known as racist that you fail to see how your prejudices shines through. So not only are you at risk of being accused of being racist and stupid you also leave your self open to charges of dissimulation and dishonesty. 
Title: Re: Not to sound racist/xenophobic
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on November 20, 2013, 08:23:28 AM
Irongrip's question was fair. The snooty liberal types who are the first to cry 'racist!' for everything are the problem. Yes, europe does have a huge problem with massive 3rd world immigration. A huge number of europeans agree with this. The real problem are the shortsighted, historically challenged, utopian ideologues who downplay the fact that their own native cultures are being rapidly displaced by 3rd world muslim hordes and call anyone bringing attention to this fact a 'racist'.
Title: Re: Not to sound racist/xenophobic
Post by: SamoanIrishman on November 20, 2013, 08:40:03 AM
Should have knows how this thread was going to go down once I read "Not to sound racist but.."

that some shit racist say right before saying something racist  ;D

It's like "uh, not to sound gay but sometimes I really want to put stuff in my ass while sucking cock and reading Cosmo"
Title: Re: Not to sound racist/xenophobic
Post by: B_B_C on November 20, 2013, 09:30:15 AM
Irongrip's question was fair.
the question was not fair in that it appears to written with the questioners mind already decided and only there to solicit agreement of his point of view (which he is able and entitled to have).
Yes, Europe does have a problem with immigration but it also has a problem an aging population (perhaps there is some overlapping ?). Europe also has problems adjusting to eb and flow of migration.
I speak personally here coming from a country with an ingrained habit of using immigration to solve shortterm economic problems where vested interests (usually generational ) resist economic change. Yet over the past 20 years my locality has a large eastern Baltic population who show less inclination to smile let alone integrate or assimilate while well able to exploit the social welfare system better it seems than than any of the seemingly dreaded "Muslem hoards".
Most of Islams problems in recent decades are within its self, just as Christianitys' agressive  turmoils were mainly within itself . The Reformation of Christianity in Western Europe was proseeded by the invention and develpment of the printing press and perhaps today a similar upsetting force has been visited upon Islamic societies. The "west" has not and does not help its self with its past and continuing support of repressive governments in poorer countries just to suit business and short term interests.
Title: Re: Not to sound racist/xenophobic
Post by: Irongrip400 on November 20, 2013, 12:33:07 PM
the question was not fair in that it appears to written with the questioners mind already decided and only there to solicit agreement of his point of view (which he is able and entitled to have).
Yes, Europe does have a problem with immigration but it also has a problem an aging population (perhaps there is some overlapping ?). Europe also has problems adjusting to eb and flow of migration.
I speak personally here coming from a country with an ingrained habit of using immigration to solve shortterm economic problems where vested interests (usually generational ) resist economic change. Yet over the past 20 years my locality has a large eastern Baltic population who show less inclination to smile let alone integrate or assimilate while well able to exploit the social welfare system better it seems than than any of the seemingly dreaded "Muslem hoards".
Most of Islams problems in recent decades are within its self, just as Christianitys' agressive  turmoils were mainly within itself . The Reformation of Christianity in Western Europe was proseeded by the invention and develpment of the printing press and perhaps today a similar upsetting force has been visited upon Islamic societies. The "west" has not and does not help its self with its past and continuing support of repressive governments in poorer countries just to suit business and short term interests.

The question was more or less based on a perception, that I as an American, have of a Frenchman, German, Russian, Libyan, Ethiopian etc.  When I think of someone from these respective countries, I have perception of what they should look like, so I guess you are right in saying that I have made up my mind.  But, that still does not change the fact, that by DNA we are categorized as having certain lineages.  In America, you expect this, as it is the melting pot of all people, and the first real multicultural society.  Would you not think it a bit strange to see a white man of European decent on a Saudi Arabian team?  The question was more or less for you European folks.  BTW, where do you hail from?