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Boxing was once the biggest sport in the world, nothing like a big fight, Even my nan asked me who won ALi - Foreman back in 74. At the moment a lot of people don't even knows what MMA means or have heard of UFC never mind be interested in any of the fights. So i wonder what makes some of you think it will reach the heights of boxings 1920s- 1970s peak.
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I can only hope.
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I can only hope.
Haha.....and I was just about to post "I hope not." :)
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Never.
MMA was entertaining in the 90's before Dana White , TUF ..................
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No. Too many leagues. The fighters aren't paid enough.
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I can only hope.
Yeah, vision is obstructed by fence (black mesh) that takes a lot & usage of this "wall"
is not really MA.
Too many boring fights pressing opponents on the "wall" for 10 minutes or so
makes matches unattractive.
Or 2 guys for 25 minutes on the ground :P just too predictable.
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No, it's had 25 years or so, and while it's popular, you just never see the same sort of build up like you have in boxing. I just don't see guys having the emotional attachment to the sport and it's fighters that folks have in boxing.
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In 2020 we will be hearing in the news about Steve Arce VS that poor bloke who signed the Waiver...
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I love Boxing. I love Combat Sports. I love Combat Arts.
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I love Boxing. I love Combat Sports. I love Combat Arts.
You should create your own Style, Called Combat Arce
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Boxing was once the biggest sport in the world, nothing like a big fight, Even my nan asked me who won ALi - Foreman back in 74. At the moment a lot of people don't even knows what MMA means or have heard of UFC never mind be interested in any of the fights. So i wonder what makes some of you think it will reach the heights of boxings 1920s- 1970s peak.
are you retarded or just ignorant of what happened and still happens around the world
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I love Boxing. I love Combat Sports. I love Combat Arts.
Unlicensed Boxing ;),Bokator
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In America as we move closer and closer to a socialist type environment, cage fighting will be a thing of the past. They're one death away from it being "killed" in some states. And having Dana White as the head of it all isn't going to help the issue. As athletes keep getting bigger/stronger/faster, its just a matter of time before things get out of hand. We can see it happening in football. They are trying to tone down football but the cat is already out of the bag.
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I love Boxing. I love Combat Sports. I love Combat Arts.
Do you love bodybuilding?
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I love Boxing. I love Combat Sports. I love Combat Arts.
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Olympic Ju Do
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Olympic Ju Do
judo is super impressive but could never push myself to learn it
too unnatural
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Olympic Tae Kwon Do
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I hate combat sports.
It's only because I'm a wimp.
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Olympic Greco Roman Wrestling
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Arce is there a man you would nt fight? A Gracie, Tyson, Fedor? If i had your skills id feel i could at least compete with anyone
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Olympic Free Style Wrestling
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Olympic Boxing
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The whole concept of MMA is new. Give it time! Then yes.
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Olympic Greco Roman Wrestling
Would like to see modernized Olympic version, new rules,fast,...............
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I would fight any one in a situation of life or death. In sport, I know my place on the food chain.
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I hate combat sports.
It's only because I'm a wimp.
We could wrestle
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I would fight any one in a situation of life or death. In sport, I know my place on the food chain.
fight or flight
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Combat Arce System
The new fad in 2020
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Combat Arce System
The new fad in 2020
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Seriously, this could be a big thing Steve
Your new system, taking the households by storm
You could assign Prince Anabolicho to promote your system in the black neighbourhoods
I could be your manager Steve, we could make some real good money on this
Speak on this
DIV
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Seriously, this could be a big thing Steve
Your new system, taking the households by storm
You could assign Prince Anabolicho to promote your system in the black neighbourhoods
I could be your manager Steve, we could make some real good money on this
Speak on this
DIV
black ppl dont buy martial arts instructional videos
they just go to a gym and do the fucking thing
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MMA is already bigger than what boxing ever was. I grew up with boxing, trained as a boxer as a youngman, one of my friends went on to be pro. We collected all the fight videos, and talked about boxing all the time. Then as I grew older my passion for it waned and I sort of developed the mainstream opinion that it was a mugs game and not good for the men who participated in it (healthwise). Boxing seemed self destructive behaviour. I could never shake it though and would still go to the PUB to watch a TYSON fight and later Kosta Tszyu (Australia's last great boxing hope).
Then one of my brothers told me about the UFC when it first started and I watched a few fights and I thought,this is even worse than boxing, there was kicking downed opponents in the head, strikes to the tetsticles etc etc. So I never really got into it, but I would still watch a fight now and again. Then it evolved, developed rules and regulations and they genuinely had interesting characters fighting, the fights were appealing and you could tell they had learned how to market the fighters and the sport properly.
I am less conflicted about sanctioned fighting today as I believe it important skill for anybody to have a capacity to defend themselves. But it has to be balanced out with respect for oneself and others and personal humility. That's where the martial arts come in, not only teaching you to fight but to develop the appropriate mindset for fighting and for life. That's not to say I don't cringe now and again when a superior opponent has the full mount and is reigning down hard elbows slicing open a virtually defenceless opponents face. But for the most part it is good healthy competition between opponents of similar ability.
So when I say MMA is already bigger than what boxing ever was, I believe it is, but in a different way. MMA did what boxing should have done. The UFC puts on regular shows and has a huge roster of talent, talent that is marketable, they don't just rely on a few big names, like boxing ended up doing. In this way you keep your audience captive, you don't give them time to forget about you. So although you won't get the same type of superfight that boxing did, which only happened because of the infrequency of such events and a small roster of talent. You get a more balanced spectator event, with regular good fights and a broad array of talent to appeal to a larger audience.
My fear at this point in time is the womens entry into the sport. Obviously the Fertitta's see a huge market opportunity but one that could come back to bite them on the arse. This decision has the potential to spill out into the political sphere and cause havoc. And we have already seen what nearly happened to the UFC early on when politicians get involved. How could this happen, the feminists will complain bitterly about woman participating in the sport. Having women learn to defend themselves and be competitive fighters will rankle the hardcore feminists who want to paint women out to be defenseless human beings regularly beaten down by the patriarchy and men in general. Womens fighting hasn't taken off yet, but if it does, expect a massive backlash from the feminists who like to infiltrate masculine pursuits and essentially feminise them or dismantle them. Either way it has the potential to go south real quick. The last thing any successful organization wants is a large group of feminists watching on, especially a masculine endeavour such as fighting. Feminists abhor all things masculine and if they get involved will push MENS interest away from the sport en masse. JMO
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MMA is already bigger than what boxing ever was.
Alright I stop reading after this.
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i choose to sit on my title belt for now, maybe down the road i will defend it you know?
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i choose to sit on my title belt for now, maybe down the road i will defend it you know?
Heme-Iron Champ of the Universe :D
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I dont understand how boxing is interesting to the layman...so I personally don't see it being as popular in the coming years, whereas mma seems to be gaining ground in popularity. Would be interesting to see the hard numbers regarding this topic- I would be shocked if mma hasn't made significant gains in fans in the last decade.
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I will not attach my name to any style. I have no right. Why would I steal from other styles, and then smack my name on one and call it mine? No thanks.
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Alright I stop reading after this.
It's simply true. Die hard boxing fans don't like to admit it because they're pissed about it. But it's a fact. Add up the yearly sales of UFC and BOXING and UFC simply makes more money. Dana actually claims the UFC makes more money than BOXING and WWE combined. Boxing has ONE big event while the rest is mediocrity, it relies too heavily on a few stars. UFC consistently produces profitable fights and has a deep pool of marketable talent. While it looks as if BOXING is more successful because they have these huge one off events that make a ton of money, the mediocrity of the rest of the events can't make up for it.
The UFC has hedged there bets by taking an each way gamble. The Boxing fraternity is still relying on putting all their money on a WIN BET on an outside favorite. The UFC has simply chosen a different business model than BOXING, one that sees them make more profit than the BOXING business does. The fact is modern day UFC is more profitable than BOXING has ever been, and the disparity between the two is only going to continue to grow.
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already is bigger.
boxing was never that big.
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The pay is much worse. FMJ made $40 mil last fight.
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i choose to sit on my title belt for now, maybe down the road i will defend it you know?
Joe Frazier is a contender.
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Jones has incredible highlight reels. FMJ is a counter striker.
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Seriously, this could be a big thing Steve
Your new system, taking the households by storm
You could assign Prince Anabolicho to promote your system in the black neighbourhoods
I could be your manager Steve, we could make some real good money on this
Speak on this
DIV
;D
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It's simply true. Die hard boxing fans don't like to admit it because they're pissed about it. But it's a fact. Add up the yearly sales of UFC and BOXING and UFC simply makes more money. Dana actually claims the UFC makes more money than BOXING and WWE combined. Boxing has ONE big event while the rest is mediocrity, it relies too heavily on a few stars. UFC consistently produces profitable fights and has a deep pool of marketable talent. While it looks as if BOXING is more successful because they have these huge one off events that make a ton of money, the mediocrity of the rest of the events can't make up for it.
The UFC has hedged there bets by taking an each way gamble. The Boxing fraternity is still relying on putting all their money on a WIN BET on an outside favorite. The UFC has simply chosen a different business model than BOXING, one that sees them make more profit than the BOXING business does. The fact is modern day UFC is more profitable than BOXING has ever been, and the disparity between the two is only going to continue to grow.
i hope zuffa is paying you for posting this nonsense
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It's simply true. Die hard boxing fans don't like to admit it because they're pissed about it. But it's a fact. Add up the yearly sales of UFC and BOXING and UFC simply makes more money. Dana actually claims the UFC makes more money than BOXING and WWE combined. Boxing has ONE big event while the rest is mediocrity, it relies too heavily on a few stars. UFC consistently produces profitable fights and has a deep pool of marketable talent. While it looks as if BOXING is more successful because they have these huge one off events that make a ton of money, the mediocrity of the rest of the events can't make up for it.
The UFC has hedged there bets by taking an each way gamble. The Boxing fraternity is still relying on putting all their money on a WIN BET on an outside favorite. The UFC has simply chosen a different business model than BOXING, one that sees them make more profit than the BOXING business does. The fact is modern day UFC is more profitable than BOXING has ever been, and the disparity between the two is only going to continue to grow.
If this is true, how do they justify the fact that the "purse" from one Mayweather fight is more than every single fighter in the UFC combined will make for years of fighting?
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http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/3/15/2053137/examining-pay-structure-in-boxing-and-mma
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http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/3/15/2053137/examining-pay-structure-in-boxing-and-mma
Stupid article , you have to compare the earnings of top boxers vs top MMA fighters
example:
Klitschko ( ($17,499,997) vs Povetkin ($5,833,333).
Cain Velasquez ($400,000) vs Dos Santos ($120,000 )
Mayweather ($41.5 million ) vs Canelo (5 mill)
GSP ($400,000) vs Hendricks ($50,000 )
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I will not attach my name to any style. I have no right. Why would I steal from other styles, and then smack my name on one and call it mine? No thanks.
No no, we create our own style!
Where others Kick, we Headbutt!
Where others Punch, we twist and shout!
etc
Always do the Unexpected
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just posted it... I did not write it...
the disparity will probably change though
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In America as we move closer and closer to a socialist type environment, cage fighting will be a thing of the past. They're one death away from it being "killed" in some states. And having Dana White as the head of it all isn't going to help the issue. As athletes keep getting bigger/stronger/faster, its just a matter of time before things get out of hand. We can see it happening in football. They are trying to tone down football but the cat is already out of the bag.
But remember, these attributes mean nothing in a fight. ::)
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Stupid article , you have to compare the earnings of top boxers vs top MMA fighters
example:
Klitschko ( ($17,499,997) vs Povetkin ($5,833,333).
Cain Velasquez ($400,000) vs Dos Santos ($120,000 )
Mayweather ($41.5 million ) vs Canelo (5 mill)
GSP ($400,000) vs Hendricks ($50,000 )
Looks like CroCop collected far more $$$ in 2013 than anyone else, E 800000 for K1 title + Moscow fight,promo tour in Japan ?.
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If this is true, how do they justify the fact that the "purse" from one Mayweather fight is more than every single fighter in the UFC combined will make for years of fighting?
Like I said, the UFC has a different model, they promote their athletes differently, their is no standout stars, but many of them, the fights attract a more diverse audience,so when someone buys a Floyd Mayweather fight, they are paying to see Floyd fight and don't really give a fuck about the under-card. In the UFC, somebody might be interested in 3 or 4 fights on the card or different people are buying it to watch a certain fight and not necessarily the main fight. Boxing relies on these one off mega-fights that sell mega PPV, but then the rest of the time nothing happening, they are generating much money. The UFC sells it's events regularly, attracting smaller PPV sales but because they market their product on volume, they make more money in the long run.
From a business perspective, the UFC's strategy is far superior to the one boxing adopts. Boxing puts all it's eggs in one basket and mega fights are few and far between. The punters lose interest after awhile and they aren't constantly hooked in. Also when a big star leaves the promotion, they are fucked, like what happened after Tyson left the heavyweight scene. Boxing started dying, because they rely too heavily on too few a fighters. Not only that, these so called mega fights are often boring snooze-fests, and the punters are beginning to wake up to it. As it stand now, the punters are only buying Mayweather fights in the hope they see him lose. The UFC on the other hand can afford to lose some of it's stars and have a few unsuccessful UFC events.
Boxing is on the decline and the UFC is on the climb.
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In America as we move closer and closer to a socialist type environment, cage fighting will be a thing of the past. They're one death away from it being "killed" in some states. And having Dana White as the head of it all isn't going to help the issue. As athletes keep getting bigger/stronger/faster, its just a matter of time before things get out of hand. We can see it happening in football. They are trying to tone down football but the cat is already out of the bag.
A death will only be good for the sport, unless of course it is a woman fighter. People die in sports all the time, car racing, cycling, horse racing, hell even bobsledding. The reality that someone can be killed during a UFC fight will only add to the thrill for spectators. once a sport is big enough, a few deaths don't matter. I think you are likely to see someone dying from weight cutting before you see it happen in the octagon.
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Like I said, the UFC has a different model, they promote their athletes differently, their is no standout stars, but many of them, the fights attract a more diverse audience,so when someone buys a Floyd Mayweather fight, they are paying to see Floyd fight and don't really give a fuck about the under-card. In the UFC, somebody might be interested in 3 or 4 fights on the card or different people are buying it to watch a certain fight and not necessarily the main fight. Boxing relies on these one off mega-fights that sell mega PPV, but then the rest of the time nothing happening, they are generating much money. The UFC sells it's events regularly, attracting smaller PPV sales but because they market their product on volume, they make more money in the long run.
From a business perspective, the UFC's strategy is far superior to the one boxing adopts. Boxing puts all it's eggs in one basket and mega fights are few and far between. The punters lose interest after awhile and they aren't constantly hooked in. Also when a big star leaves the promotion, they are fucked, like what happened after Tyson left the heavyweight scene. Boxing started dying, because they rely too heavily on too few a fighters. Not only that, these so called mega fights are often boring snooze-fests, and the punters are beginning to wake up to it. As it stand now, the punters are only buying Mayweather fights in the hope they see him lose. The UFC on the other hand can afford to lose some of it's stars and have a few unsuccessful UFC events.
Boxing is on the decline and the UFC is on the climb.
ACtually UFC is in a plateau at the moment.
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Never.
MMA was entertaining in the 90's before Dana White , TUF ..................
Damn, I miss the Pride FC. :'(
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Pride was awesome, far better than UFC.
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Hershel Walker yall.
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Love boxing but never have gotten into mma.
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Love boxing but never have gotten into mma.
X2. George Foreman would crush those twinks.
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boxing used to be broadcasted on national television in the 90's. How can you top that?
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rodeo!
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love boxing and mma
I cant see how mma will ever generate the same excitement as a real top drawer boxing fight
im more of a fan of individual boxers where as in mma I watch a lot of fights where I don't care who wins
the only mma fighter that im a "fan" of is nick diaz
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MMA has to grow on people like it did me, at first i thought it was human cockfighting before i realised the skill in what they are actuallu doing on the ground.
It also needs more mainstream fans not a load of dickhead in tap out clothing, with tribal tattoos and shaved heads. It needs normal looking people following it too.
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ACtually UFCBOXING is in a plateau at the moment.
The UFC has had it's most successful year to date, with more events than any other year, the introduction of MMA, the continued success of The Ultimate Fighter and a deeper pool of talent than at any other time and a continued expansion into International markets. PPV may be down, but there are more events and free events on FOX. 2013 will be the most profitable year for the UFC and they still continue to expand.
UFC programming is on pay-per-view television in the U.S., Brazil, Australia, Canada, New Zealand and Italy. UFC programming can also be found on Fox, Fox Sports 1 and Fox Sports 2 in the U.S., on BT Sport in the United Kingdom and Ireland, as well as in 150 countries and 22 different languages worldwide.
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The youfs of today can't sit through 12 rounds of a boxing match. The 3 round UFC fights are about as long as their attention span can last.
Perfect for setting up cards with 8-10 preliminary bouts.
Boxing let itself be run, and fixed, by criminals for so many years, no one cares about it anymore.
These big purse superfights will be a thing of the past soon once the PPV #s tank even further.
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I'm a fan of both but sometimes MMA really gets boring when guys are stalling on the ground. Boxing to me is always interesting.
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A death will only be good for the sport, unless of course it is a woman fighter. People die in sports all the time, car racing, cycling, horse racing, hell even bobsledding. The reality that someone can be killed during a UFC fight will only add to the thrill for spectators. once a sport is big enough, a few deaths don't matter. I think you are likely to see someone dying from weight cutting before you see it happen in the octagon.
Maybe...I do believe you're right about a chick getting killed in the ring...Dana White will look like more of an animal if that happens. I believe he's playing with fire bringing in chicks to fight. I also don't believe that the UFC is big enough to deal with problems like deaths and sever head injuries like other sports. Hell didn't Dana have to call off a PPV event because one fighter bowed out? If an organization is one fighter away from cancelling a show, that can't be a good thing...
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Maybe...I do believe you're right about a chick getting killed in the ring...Dana White will look like more of an animal if that happens. I believe he's playing with fire bringing in chicks to fight. I also don't believe that the UFC is big enough to deal with problems like deaths and sever head injuries like other sports. Hell didn't Dana have to call off a PPV event because one fighter bowed out? If an organization is one fighter away from cancelling a show, that can't be a good thing...
The cancelled fight was due to a weak undercard, I don't believe he had to cancel the event, there were other options. I also think he wanted to make a cun+ of Jon Jones, he is an emotional man Dana, and he was pissed Jones refused to fight Chael Sonnen on late notice. The cancellation was blamed on Jon Jones. A UFC cancellation would be a rare event, it is unusual that an Undercard is as weak as that one was. But like I said, if that happened to a Floyd Mayweather fight, and a PPV event was cancelled due to late injury, the losses would be immense. The UFC's business model allows for an event to not go ahead as they aren't putting all their eggs in one basket. They make their money from volume of fight promotions, whereas boxing relies heavily on the occasional superfight.
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I'm a fan of both but sometimes MMA really gets boring when guys are stalling on the ground. Boxing to me is always interesting.
I am the other way around, boxing is sooooooo boring, it's all point fighting, there aren't many knockout artists and at the top level they are terrified to get in a brawl. As for MMA, I don't mind a bit of boring ground work, the excitement produced the rest of the time far makes up for it.
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You re right there "E-Kul" getting sick of pussies hiding behind the jab totting up points where are the Tysons,Haglers, Listons, Tuas even Morrisons who wanted to kill opponents.
I think it ll take another decade till the UFC HW champ is a household name but it will happen.
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The youfs of today can't sit through 12 rounds of a boxing match. The 3 round UFC fights are about as long as their attention span can last.
Perfect for setting up cards with 8-10 preliminary bouts.
Boxing let itself be run, and fixed, by criminals for so many years, no one cares about it anymore.
These big purse superfights will be a thing of the past soon once the PPV #s tank even further.
Plus boxing doesn't have a big draw right now ...no boxer "everyone" wants to see fight.
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Like the days everyone said "what ya doing for the Tyson fight"
Who was he fighting, no one knew or cared! they just wanted to see that fucking animal KO someones ass!
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a death will happen... but it happens in every sport... I hope it does NOT end MMA
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a death will happen... but it happens in every sport... I hope it does NOT end MMA
Still healthier sport than BB .
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a death will happen... but it happens in every sport... I hope it does NOT end MMA
Has deaths in bodybuilding ended bodybuilding? Has deaths in any sport ever ended the sport. Hell, even bobsledders have died, it's still an event at the winter olympics. All sports have risks, the public just perceive the risk with combat sports differently, because they are deliberately trying to harm one another. But intention doesn't minimise risk, for example a bobsledder isn't trying to harm himself or others, but trying to travel as fast as one can down a tube of ice represents an elevated risk and inevitable fatalities.
The question is, does MMA produce a far greater actuarial risk of being killed as opposed to other sports, and if so, is this level of risk socially acceptable? I think the risk is comparable to other sports, but I am sure this is a topic that will be argued over and over again, especially as the sport continues to grow.
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The do gooder leftys will say ah but MMA is all about maiming and killing the opponent on purpose, the other sports its an accident. Fucking leftys :(
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I am the other way around, boxing is sooooooo boring, it's all point fighting, there aren't many knockout artists and at the top level they are terrified to get in a brawl.
more nonsense the reason KO arent common at the top level is because of defense
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Like I said, the UFC has a different model, they promote their athletes differently, their is no standout stars,
Tito, Chuck, Randy, GSP, and Brock
In the UFC, somebody might be interested in 3 or 4 fights on the card or different people are buying it to watch a certain fight and not necessarily the main fight.
you really think the casual fan cares about joe nobody fighting on the undercard or are they wanting to see gsp?
Boxing relies on these one off mega-fights that sell mega PPV, but then the rest of the time nothing happening, they are generating much money. The UFC sells it's events regularly, attracting smaller PPV sales but because they market their product on volume, they make more money in the long run.
From a business perspective, the UFC's strategy is far superior to the one boxing adopts. Boxing puts all it's eggs in one basket and mega fights are few and far between. The punters lose interest after awhile and they aren't constantly hooked in. Also when a big star leaves the promotion, they are fucked, like what happened after Tyson left the heavyweight scene. Boxing started dying, because they rely too heavily on too few a fighters. Not only that, these so called mega fights are often boring snooze-fests, and the punters are beginning to wake up to it. As it stand now, the punters are only buying Mayweather fights in the hope they see him lose. The UFC on the other hand can afford to lose some of it's stars and have a few unsuccessful UFC events.
Boxing is on the decline and the UFC is on the climb.
you were probably regurgitating the same bullshit when oscar was around lol
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The UFC has had it's most successful year to date, with more events than any other year, the introduction of MMA, the continued success of The Ultimate Fighter and a deeper pool of talent than at any other time and a continued expansion into International markets. PPV may be down, but there are more events and free events on FOX. 2013 will be the most profitable year for the UFC and they still continue to expand.
UFC programming is on pay-per-view television in the U.S., Brazil, Australia, Canada, New Zealand and Italy. UFC programming can also be found on Fox, Fox Sports 1 and Fox Sports 2 in the U.S., on BT Sport in the United Kingdom and Ireland, as well as in 150 countries and 22 different languages worldwide.
you would think so since UFC has a contract with FOX by the way there is no PPV in Brazil
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Plus boxing doesn't have a big draw right now ...no boxer "everyone" wants to see fight.
floyd didnt earn his money from sponsorship or charity
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Butterbean beat a few asses along the way.
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Die hard boxing fans always get butthurt about the UFC relegating it to the dark ages.
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Boxing was once the biggest sport in the world, nothing like a big fight, Even my nan asked me who won ALi - Foreman back in 74. At the moment a lot of people don't even knows what MMA means or have heard of UFC never mind be interested in any of the fights. So i wonder what makes some of you think it will reach the heights of boxings 1920s- 1970s peak.
It already surpassed it.
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Its already surpassed it? I must have missed a big MMA fight being on the front page of newspapers, being top of regular news bulletins (not sports bulletins) being talked about by young and old.
What the fuck are you on about?
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more nonsense the reason KO arent common at the top level is because of defense
I know about boxing! Spent my first 20 years of life in love with it, It doesn't change the fact boxing is sooooooo boring. Who cares why KO's aren't common, maybe it is because of defense. Which sounds like the same reason you are dragging your butthurt all through this thread. Too defensive.
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A buncha barefoot idiots? No. Just no.
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I agree there, they need shoes, i like female feet, male feet makes me sick :-X
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But remember, these attributes mean nothing in a fight. ::)
Except for when all other things become close to equal...Evolution and science creates bigger, stronger and faster athletes.
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a death will happen... but it happens in every sport... I hope it does NOT end MMA
Yes it happens in other sports. But other sports have a system in place to handle it. Dana White is his own worse enemy. He'll say all the right things the day after it happens, but what about a week later or month later. This NFL concussion thing that is going on has the potential to change the landscape of all sports in the near future.
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Fuck Dana