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Re: Will MMA be as big as boxing once was?
« Reply #50 on: December 03, 2013, 05:55:14 PM »
 just posted it... I did not write it...


 the disparity will probably change though

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Re: Will MMA be as big as boxing once was?
« Reply #51 on: December 03, 2013, 06:30:02 PM »
In America as we move closer and closer to a socialist type environment, cage fighting will be a thing of the past. They're one death away from it being "killed" in some states. And having Dana White as the head of it all isn't going to help the issue. As athletes keep getting bigger/stronger/faster, its just a matter of time before things get out of hand. We can see it happening in football. They are trying to tone down football but the cat is already out of the bag.

But remember, these attributes mean nothing in a fight.  ::)

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Re: Will MMA be as big as boxing once was?
« Reply #52 on: December 03, 2013, 06:59:27 PM »
Stupid article , you have to compare  the earnings  of  top boxers vs top MMA fighters

example:

Klitschko ( ($17,499,997) vs Povetkin  ($5,833,333).
Cain Velasquez ($400,000) vs Dos Santos ($120,000 )


Mayweather ($41.5 million ) vs Canelo (5 mill)
GSP ($400,000) vs Hendricks  ($50,000 )

Looks like CroCop collected far more $$$ in 2013 than anyone else, E 800000 for K1 title + Moscow fight,promo tour in Japan ?.

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Re: Will MMA be as big as boxing once was?
« Reply #53 on: December 03, 2013, 07:36:55 PM »
If this is true, how do they justify the fact that the "purse" from one Mayweather fight is more than every single fighter in the UFC combined will make for years of fighting?
Like I said, the UFC has a different model, they promote their athletes differently, their is no standout stars, but many of them, the fights attract a more diverse audience,so when someone buys a Floyd Mayweather fight, they are paying to see Floyd fight and don't really give a fuck about the under-card.  In the UFC, somebody might be interested in 3 or 4 fights on the card or different people are buying it to watch a certain fight and not necessarily the main fight.  Boxing relies on these one off mega-fights that sell mega PPV, but then the rest of the time nothing happening, they are generating much money. The UFC sells it's events regularly, attracting smaller PPV sales but because they market their product on volume, they make more money in the long run.

From a business perspective, the UFC's strategy is far superior to the one boxing adopts.  Boxing puts all it's eggs in one basket and mega fights are few and far between.  The punters lose interest after awhile and they aren't constantly hooked in.  Also when a big star leaves the promotion, they are fucked, like what happened after Tyson left the heavyweight scene.  Boxing started dying, because they rely too heavily on too few a fighters.  Not only that, these so called mega fights are often boring snooze-fests, and the punters are beginning to wake up to it.  As it stand now, the punters are only buying Mayweather fights in the hope they see him lose.  The UFC on the other hand can afford to lose some of it's  stars and have a few unsuccessful UFC events.  

Boxing is on the decline and the UFC is on the climb.
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Re: Will MMA be as big as boxing once was?
« Reply #54 on: December 03, 2013, 07:42:40 PM »
In America as we move closer and closer to a socialist type environment, cage fighting will be a thing of the past. They're one death away from it being "killed" in some states. And having Dana White as the head of it all isn't going to help the issue. As athletes keep getting bigger/stronger/faster, its just a matter of time before things get out of hand. We can see it happening in football. They are trying to tone down football but the cat is already out of the bag.
A death will only be good for the sport, unless of course it is a woman fighter.  People die in sports all the time, car racing, cycling, horse racing, hell even bobsledding.  The reality that someone can be killed during a UFC fight will only add to the thrill for spectators.  once a sport is big  enough, a few deaths don't matter.  I think you are likely to see someone dying from weight cutting  before you see it happen in the octagon.
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Re: Will MMA be as big as boxing once was?
« Reply #55 on: December 04, 2013, 12:43:19 AM »
Like I said, the UFC has a different model, they promote their athletes differently, their is no standout stars, but many of them, the fights attract a more diverse audience,so when someone buys a Floyd Mayweather fight, they are paying to see Floyd fight and don't really give a fuck about the under-card.  In the UFC, somebody might be interested in 3 or 4 fights on the card or different people are buying it to watch a certain fight and not necessarily the main fight.  Boxing relies on these one off mega-fights that sell mega PPV, but then the rest of the time nothing happening, they are generating much money. The UFC sells it's events regularly, attracting smaller PPV sales but because they market their product on volume, they make more money in the long run.

From a business perspective, the UFC's strategy is far superior to the one boxing adopts.  Boxing puts all it's eggs in one basket and mega fights are few and far between.  The punters lose interest after awhile and they aren't constantly hooked in.  Also when a big star leaves the promotion, they are fucked, like what happened after Tyson left the heavyweight scene.  Boxing started dying, because they rely too heavily on too few a fighters.  Not only that, these so called mega fights are often boring snooze-fests, and the punters are beginning to wake up to it.  As it stand now, the punters are only buying Mayweather fights in the hope they see him lose.  The UFC on the other hand can afford to lose some of it's  stars and have a few unsuccessful UFC events.  

Boxing is on the decline and the UFC is on the climb.

ACtually UFC is in a plateau at the moment.

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Re: Will MMA be as big as boxing once was?
« Reply #56 on: December 04, 2013, 12:52:26 AM »

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Re: Will MMA be as big as boxing once was?
« Reply #57 on: December 04, 2013, 02:04:36 AM »
Never.

MMA was entertaining in the 90's before Dana White , TUF ..................
Damn, I miss the Pride FC. :'(

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Re: Will MMA be as big as boxing once was?
« Reply #58 on: December 04, 2013, 05:57:56 AM »
Pride was awesome, far better than UFC.

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Re: Will MMA be as big as boxing once was?
« Reply #59 on: December 04, 2013, 05:59:02 AM »
Hershel Walker yall.

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Re: Will MMA be as big as boxing once was?
« Reply #60 on: December 04, 2013, 05:59:50 AM »
Love boxing but never have gotten into mma.

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Re: Will MMA be as big as boxing once was?
« Reply #61 on: December 04, 2013, 06:01:44 AM »
Love boxing but never have gotten into mma.
X2. George Foreman would crush those twinks.

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Re: Will MMA be as big as boxing once was?
« Reply #62 on: December 04, 2013, 06:25:23 AM »
boxing used to be broadcasted on national television in the 90's. How can you top that?

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Re: Will MMA be as big as boxing once was?
« Reply #64 on: December 04, 2013, 07:40:51 AM »
love boxing and mma

I cant see how mma will ever generate the same excitement as a real top drawer boxing fight

im more of a fan of individual boxers where as in mma I watch a lot of fights where I don't care who wins

the only mma fighter that im a "fan" of is nick diaz
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Re: Will MMA be as big as boxing once was?
« Reply #65 on: December 04, 2013, 08:22:11 AM »
MMA has to grow on people like it did me, at first i thought it was human cockfighting before i realised the skill in what they are actuallu doing on the ground.
It also needs more mainstream fans not a load of dickhead in tap out clothing, with tribal tattoos and shaved heads. It needs normal looking people following it too.

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Re: Will MMA be as big as boxing once was?
« Reply #66 on: December 04, 2013, 08:49:35 AM »
ACtually UFCBOXING  is in a plateau at the moment.
The UFC has had it's most successful year to date, with more events than any other year, the introduction of MMA, the continued success of The Ultimate Fighter and  a deeper pool of talent than at any other time and a continued expansion into International markets.  PPV may be down, but there are more events and free events on FOX. 2013 will be the most profitable year for the UFC and they still continue to expand.

UFC programming is on pay-per-view television in the U.S., Brazil, Australia, Canada, New Zealand and Italy. UFC programming can also be found on Fox, Fox Sports 1 and Fox Sports 2 in the U.S., on BT Sport in the United Kingdom and Ireland, as well as in 150 countries and 22 different languages worldwide.
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Re: Will MMA be as big as boxing once was?
« Reply #67 on: December 04, 2013, 08:59:55 AM »
The youfs of today can't sit through 12 rounds of a boxing match. The 3 round UFC fights are about as long as their attention span can last.

Perfect for setting up cards with 8-10 preliminary bouts.

Boxing let itself be run, and fixed, by criminals for so many years, no one cares about it anymore.

These big purse superfights will be a thing of the past soon once the PPV #s tank even further.

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Re: Will MMA be as big as boxing once was?
« Reply #68 on: December 04, 2013, 09:05:11 AM »
I'm a fan of both but sometimes MMA really gets boring when guys are stalling on the ground. Boxing to me is always interesting.

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Re: Will MMA be as big as boxing once was?
« Reply #69 on: December 04, 2013, 09:09:23 AM »
A death will only be good for the sport, unless of course it is a woman fighter.  People die in sports all the time, car racing, cycling, horse racing, hell even bobsledding.  The reality that someone can be killed during a UFC fight will only add to the thrill for spectators.  once a sport is big  enough, a few deaths don't matter.  I think you are likely to see someone dying from weight cutting  before you see it happen in the octagon.

Maybe...I do believe you're right about a chick getting killed in the ring...Dana White will look like more of an animal if that happens. I believe he's playing with fire bringing in chicks to fight. I also don't believe that the UFC is big enough to deal with problems like deaths and sever head injuries like other sports. Hell didn't Dana have to call off a PPV event because one fighter bowed out? If an organization is one fighter away from cancelling a show, that can't be a good thing...

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Re: Will MMA be as big as boxing once was?
« Reply #70 on: December 04, 2013, 09:33:29 AM »
Maybe...I do believe you're right about a chick getting killed in the ring...Dana White will look like more of an animal if that happens. I believe he's playing with fire bringing in chicks to fight. I also don't believe that the UFC is big enough to deal with problems like deaths and sever head injuries like other sports. Hell didn't Dana have to call off a PPV event because one fighter bowed out? If an organization is one fighter away from cancelling a show, that can't be a good thing...
The cancelled fight was due to a weak undercard, I don't believe he had to cancel the event, there were other options.  I also think he wanted to make a cun+ of Jon Jones, he is an emotional man Dana, and he was pissed Jones refused to fight Chael Sonnen on late notice.  The cancellation was blamed on Jon Jones. A UFC cancellation would be a rare event, it is unusual that an Undercard is as weak as that one was.  But like I said, if that happened to a Floyd Mayweather fight, and a PPV event was cancelled due to late injury, the losses would be immense.  The UFC's business model allows for an event to not go ahead as they aren't putting all their eggs in one basket.  They make their money from volume of fight promotions, whereas boxing relies heavily on the occasional superfight.
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Re: Will MMA be as big as boxing once was?
« Reply #71 on: December 04, 2013, 09:37:50 AM »
I'm a fan of both but sometimes MMA really gets boring when guys are stalling on the ground. Boxing to me is always interesting.
I am the other way around, boxing is sooooooo boring, it's all point fighting, there aren't many knockout artists and at the top level they are terrified to get in a brawl. As for MMA, I don't mind a bit of boring ground work, the excitement produced the rest of the time far makes up for it.
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Re: Will MMA be as big as boxing once was?
« Reply #72 on: December 04, 2013, 10:03:06 AM »
You re right there "E-Kul" getting sick of pussies hiding behind the jab totting up points where are the Tysons,Haglers, Listons, Tuas even Morrisons who wanted to kill opponents.
I think it ll take another decade till the UFC HW champ is a household name but it will happen.

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Re: Will MMA be as big as boxing once was?
« Reply #73 on: December 04, 2013, 10:16:58 AM »
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Re: Will MMA be as big as boxing once was?
« Reply #74 on: December 04, 2013, 10:28:44 AM »
The youfs of today can't sit through 12 rounds of a boxing match. The 3 round UFC fights are about as long as their attention span can last.

Perfect for setting up cards with 8-10 preliminary bouts.

Boxing let itself be run, and fixed, by criminals for so many years, no one cares about it anymore.

These big purse superfights will be a thing of the past soon once the PPV #s tank even further.


Plus boxing doesn't have a big draw right now ...no boxer "everyone" wants to see fight.