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I hope he stays involved. We need people like him involved with public policy.
Dr. Ben Carson on Presidential Bid: The Good Lord Has a Plan
Thursday, 05 Dec 2013
By Bill Hoffmann
Renowned neurosurgeon Ben Carson inched closer to declaring a 2016 run for the White House on Thursday, saying that while he never expected to seek public office, "the good Lord had a different plan for me."
Asked by Steve Malzberg on Newsmax TV about several grass-roots campaigns to draft him for a presidential run on the Republican ticket, Carson said:
"As far as my running for public office, that was never my intention. I thought when I retired I was going to play golf and learn how to play an organ.
"But, obviously, the good Lord had a different plan for me. I will obviously listen, but that is not what I really had intended to do."
Carson, the former chief for pediatric neurosurgery at the Johns Hopkins Children's Center, said his goal is to "make sure the American people have their eyes open and recognize what's happening and understand that we the people are not each other's enemies.
"The enemies are those people jerking everybody's chains and trying to make them think they're enemies and driving in wedges at particular … to divide and conquer."
Carson opposes President Barack Obama's ongoing call for a $2.85 hike in the federal minimum wage, which currently stands at $7.25 an hour, or around $15,000 a year.
"No one should expect to start out making a lot of money … I worked many, many jobs as a youngster growing up in Detroit. Many of them didn't even pay minimum wage but what they did pay me was an opportunity for me to gain significant experience," Carson said.
"In one case, I took a job as a lab assistant at my high school but I learned enough that I was able to compete successfully against college kids for a lab position at a university when I was still in high school. I couldn't have gotten that if I hadn't done the various low-wage jobs.
He said Americans need to "recognize that there's an actual progression that occurs as you make yourself more valuable.
"But you have to have some place to start and if we make that learning place a point where employers have to pay you more than you actually bring to the job … what that is doing is hurting particularly our young people. They need a place to start. So we have to be able to look at the big picture."
Carson also spoke of the value of reading and urged people to limit the amount of time they watch television.
"I've been asking [people to] promise themselves that they will subtract half an hour or an hour a day from their television watching and read," he said.
"Learn something, pick up an American history book, a world history book, an algebra book, something. You would be amazed at how much you will know after a year of just doing that."
He said he picked up the habit from his mother.
"My mother observed as … she worked as a domestic cleaning other people's houses, [that] these tended to be very successful people and where we lived there tended to be a lot of unsuccessful people," Carson said.
"She noticed they read a lot and they didn't look at a lot of television and they didn't waste a lot of time. So she came home and imposed that upon us. We were, of course, quite disgruntled.
"Her friends just criticized her severely. 'You can't make boys stay in the house and read books! They'll grow up but they'll hate you. I would say, mother you know they're right, but she wasn't going to listen to that. We had to do it."
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/ben-carson-president-lord-plan/2013/12/05/id/540340#ixzz2mioPn2C8
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Yeah because the public needs a new Jesus Freak to ridicule seeing how Bachmann, Palin, T-Paw, and Perry are old news now.
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The "Jesus freak" who is the one of the best brain surgeons in world history is ok with me. Brilliant man.
Keep your tissue handy. You'll be doing a lot of crying if he stays involved. :)
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I can see the Left getting real flustered trying to find a way to label him a racist ;D
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I can see the Left getting real flustered trying to find a way to label him a racist ;D
He's the worst kind of racist--a black man who hates black people. He's republican. It doesn't matter if he's white or black, he's racist.
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The "Jesus freak" who is the one of the best brain surgeons in world history is ok with me. Brilliant man.
Right, and? What does brain surgery have to do with politics? Would the best chef in the world be better suited?
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ABOUT TIME!
Seriously smart dude... I've always wondered why the smartest people are in the pvt sector and the dumbest are in politics lol. Okay, not the dumbest, but really... Was Palin the smartest person out of 305 million that Mccain could pick for VP?
I wish for a USA where the top 4 people on the tickets are brilliant, highly acomplished. Able to understand lots of details and absorb information and make decisions. We've really had a bunch of soft thinkers from both parties lately. And just being rich doesn't mean jack... Bush and Romney were millionaires while in the crib.
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Joey Chestnut, one of the best hot dog eaters in world history, is also considering a run for the 2016 Republican nomination. I think we need to give his candidacy due consideration.
:D :D this guy for vp
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Right, and? What does brain surgery have to do with politics? Would the best chef in the world be better suited?
Yes, the best chef. ::)
Him being one of the best brain surgeons in world history means he's probably very intelligent. He has also worked in the private sector his entire career. Also has good business sense. Man of integrity too. All of those attributes make him a great candidate to be involved in public policy, unlike the current guy in the White House.
The fact he is a "Jesus freak" is just a bonus. :)
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if you can't beat them join them, the repubs token :D :D :D :D
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The "Jesus freak" who is the one of the best brain surgeons in world history is ok with me. Brilliant man.
Keep your tissue handy. You'll be doing a lot of crying if he stays involved. :)
LOL
I'm praying to Satan he decides to run
He's already said so many stupid things one can only imagine what other nutty shit he will say once he's on the campaign trail
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Yes, the best chef. ::)
Well, if your criteria is "one of the best" then why not? What about a mathematician like Andrew Wiles? Or a computer scientist like Donald Knuth? Or anyone at their top of their field?
Him being one of the best brain surgeons in world history means he's probably very intelligent. He has also worked in the private sector his entire career. Also has good business sense. Man of integrity too. All of those attributes make him a great candidate to be involved in public policy, unlike the current guy in the White House.
You can be very intelligent and be a shitty politician.
Working in the private sector isn't a prerequisite - but it's at least a plus.
You claim he has good business sense. Let's assume he does - even if you present no evidence to back up your assertion. So what? What does the Presidency have to do with jobs?
I don't know him and don't know if he has integrity or not. I'll assume does but would point out that is almost an automatic disqualifier - but I'm not cynical.
The fact he is a "Jesus freak" is just a bonus. :)
Yeah... a "bonus". ::)
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Well, if your criteria is "one of the best" then why not? What about a mathematician like Andrew Wiles? Or a computer scientist like Donald Knuth? Or anyone at their top of their field?
You can be very intelligent and be a shitty politician.
Working in the private sector isn't a prerequisite - but it's at least a plus.
You claim he has good business sense. Let's assume he does - even if you present no evidence to back up your assertion. So what? What does the Presidency have to do with jobs?
I don't know him and don't know if he has integrity or not. I'll assume does but would point out that is almost an automatic disqualifier - but I'm not cynical.
Yeah... a "bonus". ::)
So who exactly should be considered then? Draw names out of a hat?
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Well, if your criteria is "one of the best" then why not? What about a mathematician like Andrew Wiles? Or a computer scientist like Donald Knuth? Or anyone at their top of their field?
You can be very intelligent and be a shitty politician.
Working in the private sector isn't a prerequisite - but it's at least a plus.
You claim he has good business sense. Let's assume he does - even if you present no evidence to back up your assertion. So what? What does the Presidency have to do with jobs?
I don't know him and don't know if he has integrity or not. I'll assume does but would point out that is almost an automatic disqualifier - but I'm not cynical.
Yeah... a "bonus". ::)
Who said Andrew Wiles or Donald Knuth cannot be involved in public policy? Of course they can.
You have a different view of what qualities a person involved in public policy should have, which is fine. The factors I mentioned are important to me.
Yes, a bonus. :)
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When Carson makes a complete fool of himself I can only assume that will be part of the good lords plan
jesus, daddy and the spook have a sense of humor
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Well, if your criteria is "one of the best" then why not? What about a mathematician like Andrew Wiles? Or a computer scientist like Donald Knuth? Or anyone at their top of their field?
You can be very intelligent and be a shitty politician.
Working in the private sector isn't a prerequisite - but it's at least a plus.
You claim he has good business sense. Let's assume he does - even if you present no evidence to back up your assertion. So what? What does the Presidency have to do with jobs?
I don't know him and don't know if he has integrity or not. I'll assume does but would point out that is almost an automatic disqualifier - but I'm not cynical.
Yeah... a "bonus". ::)
Seriously? You come of as very intelligent or at least you can debate well. Having experience in the private sector has everything to do with it, just the fact that the left have no economic commonsense should tell you this much. A good example would be when these idiots want to raise the minimum wage just to "make it fair" without giving consideration of the impact it would have on the business...or how about this. Instead of cutting out useless programs they want to keep raising taxes as if getting this works.
We need a businessman in the White House not a fucking politician.
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Seriously? You come of as very intelligent or at least you can debate well. Having experience in the private sector has everything to do with it, just the fact that the left have no economic commonsense should tell you this much. A good example would be when these idiots want to raise the minimum wage just to "make it fair" without giving consideration of the impact it would have on the business...or how about this. Instead of cutting out useless programs they want to keep raising taxes as if getting this works.
We need a businessman in the White House not a fucking politician.
it certainly didn't seem to help Bush
Carter was a peanut farmer - did that help him?
Not having private sector experience didn't hurt Clinton, Kennedy, Roosevelt and I'll even give you Reagan
Being a governor tends to be helpful but being in the "private sector" doesn't mean jack shit when it comes to being an effective POTUS
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Yeah because the public needs a new Jesus Freak to ridicule seeing how Bachmann, Palin, T-Paw, and Perry are old news now.
racist
Right, and? What does brain surgery have to do with politics? Would the best chef in the world be better suited?
racist
Joey Chestnut, one of the best hot dog eaters in world history, is also considering a run for the 2016 Republican nomination. I think we need to give his candidacy due consideration.
racist
if you can't beat them join them, the repubs token :D :D :D :D
dyslexic
LOL
I'm praying to Satan he decides to run
He's already said so many stupid things one can only imagine what other nutty shit he will say once he's on the campaign trail
racist
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I can see the Left getting real flustered trying to find a way to label him a racist ;D
Would you have labeled him a racist at the time when you were a lefty?
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Yes, the best chef. ::)
Him being one of the best brain surgeons in world history means he's probably very intelligent. He has also worked in the private sector his entire career. Also has good business sense. Man of integrity too. All of those attributes make him a great candidate to be involved in public policy, unlike the current guy in the White House.
The fact he is a "Jesus freak" is just a bonus. :)
He is not very intelligent BB. At 1:00:
You have to wery stupid to spew that BS.
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He is not very intelligent BB. At 1:00:
You have to wery stupid to spew that BS.
yeah, and that so called Lenin quote is not true
kind of reminds me of all of the total bullshit that Rick Santorum said on the campaign trail
just wait until this guy starts getting questions about foreign policy and basically any other topic outside of his particular area of expertise
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yeah, and that so called Lenin quote is not true
kind of reminds me of all of the total bullshit that Rick Santorum said on the campaign trail
just wait until this guy starts getting questions about foreign policy and basically any other topic outside of his particular area of expertise
Pretty funny that he mentiones the Lenin quote twice in 24 hours. He must really feel he is on to something. Maybe one of his staffers told him about it as a joke and then he just ran with it.
Im not american but if my kid came home from school spewing BS like that i would have a talk with the teacher.
And here you have a brain surgeon and soon to be public official saying it? Fucking scary.
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Pretty funny that he mentiones the Lenin quote twice in 24 hours. He must really feel he is on to something. Maybe one of his staffers told him about it as a joke and then he just ran with it.
Im not american but if my kid came home from school spewing BS like that i would have a talk with the teacher.
And here you have a brain surgeon and soon to be public official saying it? Fucking scary.
let's not get carried away
if he decides to run he'll get torn to shreds in the primaries
Remember how quickly Herman Cain imploded
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He is not very intelligent BB. At 1:00:
You have to wery stupid to spew that BS.
Didn't watch the clip.
He's brilliant. Also, I think his foundation has provided scholarships to kids in every state. He's a Great American.
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Didn't watch the clip.
He's brilliant. Also, I think his foundation has provided scholarships to kids in every state. He's a Great American.
He told a false quote on public television, that he attributed to Lenin. He did it twice in 24 hours so he must really feel he is on to something.
Anyone but a person with well below average intelligence would know it was fake yet your so called "brilliant" Dr. Carsen not only tells the story not once but twice on public television.
How is that brilliant again ???
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The "Jesus freak" who is the one of the best brain surgeons in world history is ok with me. Brilliant man.
Keep your tissue handy. You'll be doing a lot of crying if he stays involved. :)
By "tissues" and "crying", I assume you mean from laughing so hard.
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we need a GOVERNOR in the white house.
businessmen... eh, they're surrounded by YES MEN their entire life. Nobody tells them the truth. They're so insulated from reality.
And they can pick & choose what business to be in. They can cut the dogs and keep the cows. Presidents cannot cut the shitty states or cities - you're stuck with Cali if you want Connecticut lol.
Perry. Conservative governors like him. Bush. Jeb. You know what you're getting with them.
Don't give me a fcking RINO that operated as lib. Don't give me Christie or Romney. Romney signed an anti-gun bill, and wrote romneycare. Looking back.... WTF WTF WTF... who ever thought the base would vote for him? lol.
Christie is the same thing. Major liberal, and it cannot even be argued. And good businessmen don't make good presidents - can we list any that were? Repubs always want a businessman, but they're out of touch and they aren't used to shit problems - they just cut that fat loose. Romney only worked with good firms - he sliced and diced the crap or didn't accept that firm. Doesn't work like that in reali life.
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He's the worst kind of racist--a black man who hates black people. He's republican. It doesn't matter if he's white or black, he's racist.
at least he will postpone his plan to be an organist.
all we need is another fundy hammond organ playing 'come to jesus' in whole notes.
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He told a false quote on public television, that he attributed to Lenin. He did it twice in 24 hours so he must really feel he is on to something.
Anyone but a person with well below average intelligence would know it was fake yet your so called "brilliant" Dr. Carsen not only tells the story not once but twice on public television.
How is that brilliant again ???
after all the idiot shit youve fallen for this is your measuring stick?
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it certainly didn't seem to help Bush
This puzzles me because we had a good economy under Bush and even with his expansion of the government he still managed to keep our economy at a growing rate and yes, even through war time. I'll say it again, he fucked up the last three or so months of his presidency. Those three months were not even close enough to blame for the six years of disaster almost the day Obama was "elected".
Carter was a peanut farmer - did that help him?
If it profits Carter it doesn't matter. He still has a socialist/marxist mentality and that's what he fed the American people
Not having private sector experience didn't hurt Clinton, Kennedy, Roosevelt and I'll even give you Reagan
Clinton benefited from the dot com era, this isn't anything new. Towards the end of HIS presidency the economy was starting to decline FAST. It was a slow start but at the end we had a GREAT economy under Reagan
Being a governor tends to be helpful but being in the "private sector" doesn't mean jack shit when it comes to being an effective POTUS
If Obama really gave a shit, he would be listening and caring about the polls and what people say and who is turning on him, he doesn't. To me this tell me he doesn't give a shit and this done for pure power and ego. When things started going south for Clinton and realized what he was doing during his first term wasn't working and people didn't want what he was spewing, he quickly turned it around and came back to center/left and worked with rebublicans....it won him a second term. I might not like what Clinton stood for but I wouldn't mind having someone like him back in if it came down to having a Dem back in the presidency.
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If Obama really gave a shit, he would be listening and caring about the polls and what people say and who is turning on him, he doesn't. To me this tell me he doesn't give a shit and this done for pure power and ego. When things started going south for Clinton and realized what he was doing during his first term wasn't working and people didn't want what he was spewing, he quickly turned it around and came back to center/left and worked with rebublicans....it won him a second term. I might not like what Clinton stood for but I wouldn't mind having someone like him back in if it came down to having a Dem back in the presidency.
your statements in red regarding Bush are enough to remind me why I never take anything you say seriously
let's just hope for the sake of humor that the good doctor decides to run
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your statements in red regarding Bush are enough to remind me why I never take anything you say seriously
let's just hope for the sake of humor that the good doctor decides to run
Much like most of the country feels about the left and Obama. Like i have said. I have NEVER taken Obama seriously....hes a clown.
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Having experience in the private sector has everything to do with it, just the fact that the left have no economic commonsense should tell you this much.
What you say assumes that everyone who has business experience automatically has common sense. Of course, that's demonstrably not the case. And while people that are left-of-center are likely to have positions that disagree with mine and yours, I don't think that means that none of them have economic commonsense. I know plenty left-of-center people whose economic positions I disagree with but are both successful and have more economic common sense than many right-of-center people I know.
A good example would be when these idiots want to raise the minimum wage just to "make it fair" without giving consideration of the impact it would have on the business...or how about this. Instead of cutting out useless programs they want to keep raising taxes as if getting this works.
There's people advocating all sorts of stupid ideas - stupidity isn't a left thing or a right thing. Stupid idea should be called out, because stupidity is bad.
We need a businessman in the White House not a fucking politician.
Wouldn't that "businessman" automatically be a politician, having had to run for and win the Presidency?
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Much like most of the country feels about the left and Obama. Like i have said. I have NEVER taken Obama seriously....hes a clown.
For someone you don't take seriously, you are on here all the time whining about him and spewing your special brand of stupidity all the time.
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after all the idiot shit youve fallen for this is your measuring stick?
Grown ups are talking boy. Go play.
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This puzzles me because we had a good economy under Bush and even with his expansion of the government he still managed to keep our economy at a growing rate and yes, even through war time. I'll say it again, he fucked up the last three or so months of his presidency. Those three months were not even close enough to blame for the six years of disaster almost the day Obama was "elected".
You're joking, right? First of all, please can the "wartime" bullshit. Dealing with Afghanistan was arguably justified (albeit, horribly handled) but the Iraq war was not only unnecessary but meaningless. The fact is that the Bush administration duped the country into supporting a war on, let's be generous and say trumped up evidence.
Now, with that out of the way, the economy was shit under Bush. You can argue that part of that was caused by the dotcom bubble going "*PLOP*" but it wasn't just that. The economy was shit, and the policies advocated by the Bush Administration just piled more shit on top, wasting money left and right while talking about "tax cuts" that were, by and large, just for show since despite lower marginal tax rates were in effect, the AMT rates were not adjusted and would kick in eliminating potential tax savings.
It's true that towards the end, they did go completely overboard, no argument there, but let's not pretend that things were otherwise rosy during the Bush Administration.
So yeah, Obama inherited a huge mess. And, unfortunately, he then made an even bigger mess of it. I almost feel sorry for whoever ends up being President in 2016 and hope that (s)he will invest in a great pair of knee-high galoshes prior to inauguration.
If it profits Carter it doesn't matter. He still has a socialist/marxist mentality and that's what he fed the American people
Come on... I mean we all know you aren't objective and see everything in terms of (R) and (D), but this just silly even by your standards. You say you want a businessman for President, but you dismissively wave away Carter, who was a successful businessman, because you disagree with his positions.
And before you go on telling us how horrible Carter was - and he was pretty bad as a President - please remember that this is about his business acumen; that's the only thing that's at issue. So, let's look at the facts together, shall we? By all accounts, Carter was successful as a business man: he managed to turn around the business he inherited and significantly expanded it. Prior to his foray into politics, he had managed to become not only considerably wealthy but was viewed as very successful on his own right .
I'm not going to bother asking you to be objective - we both know you can't be. But at least, don't try to hide behind your finger and don't be ashamed to admit that you don't give a shit about whether the next President is a businessman or a career politician. We all know that your one and only criterion is whether your political views perfectly align.
Clinton benefited from the dot com era, this isn't anything new. Towards the end of HIS presidency the economy was starting to decline FAST. It was a slow start but at the end we had a GREAT economy under Reagan
Wait, what? We had a "GREAT" economy under Reagan? Arguably, inflation dropped sharply and marginal and effective tax rates were, in toto, significantly decreased (despite the passage and signing into law of one of the largest tax increases ever), but to say the economy as a whole was "GREAT" is a bit of an exaggeration. He presided over a stock market crash that was poorly handled. And when he left Office, he had more than tripled the federal deficit. You did know all of this, right?
This isn't to take away from some of the things that Reagan did do. I agree with some of his policies vis–à–vis the economy, but let's not sanctify the man. Now, now, don't freak out. You can still furiously masturbate looking at Ron's portrait, just like little teenage girls do with Justin Bieber. But please keep it in the privacy of your own home. Nobody wants to watch that shit.
If Obama really gave a shit, he would be listening and caring about the polls and what people say and who is turning on him, he doesn't. To me this tell me he doesn't give a shit and this done for pure power and ego.
Obama isn't the first lame duck President to not pay attention to the polls and "champion" his agenda. Bush did it, Clinton did it and Reagan did it.
When things started going south for Clinton and realized what he was doing during his first term wasn't working and people didn't want what he was spewing, he quickly turned it around and came back to center/left and worked with rebublicans....it won him a second term.
Arguments about the "spoiler" role that Perot played aside, what won Clinton a second term was his charismatic personality and the fact that he was running against Bob Dole. Dole was a skilled politician, but he had the personality of dry meatloaf and he was way too old and out of touch, and that shows.
I think that Clinton, for all the turbulence during his Presidency, was moderately successful. What's surprising is that he was moderately successful despite the fact that he had to deal with people like Newt Gingrich. I agree with you that his ability to work somewhat effectively with the Republicans was surprising.
I might not like what Clinton stood for but I wouldn't mind having someone like him back in if it came down to having a Dem back in the presidency.
I wouldn't mind Bill Clinton either, especially the current, more "seasoned" and "polished" Bill Clinton even if I don't agree with many of his positions, especially when it comes to the economy.
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Avxo delivering the reality to Coach's rectum once again. I think the Coach must be a fag since he enjoys a thorough ass pounding.
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He told a false quote on public television, that he attributed to Lenin. He did it twice in 24 hours so he must really feel he is on to something.
Anyone but a person with well below average intelligence would know it was fake yet your so called "brilliant" Dr. Carsen not only tells the story not once but twice on public television.
How is that brilliant again ???
He "told a false quote," twice. Stop the presses.
He graduated from Yale undergrad, Michigan medical school. Was the youngest director of pediatric neurosurgery at Johns Hopkins. The first to ever successfully separate twins conjoined at the head. Pioneered hemispherecty (sp?), (removing half of a person's brain) to stop chronic seizures. Has a scholarship program that has awarded scholarships to over 5,000 kids. He has written four best-selling books. Served on the boards of Kellogg and Costco. A plethora of honorary degrees. Awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom (the nation's highest civilian award).
But he "told a false quote," so he's stupid. ::)
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By "tissues" and "crying", I assume you mean from laughing so hard.
No, I mean crying and whining because an incredibly intelligent and successful "Jesus Freak" might be involved in national public policy debates.
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No, I mean crying and whining because an incredibly intelligent and successful "Jesus Freak" might be involved in national public policy debates.
jesus freaks don't play well with the Jews .
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He "told a false quote," twice. Stop the presses.
He graduated from Yale undergrad, Michigan medical school. Was the youngest director of pediatric neurosurgery at Johns Hopkins. The first to ever successfully separate twins conjoined at the head. Pioneered hemispherecty (sp?), (removing half of a person's brain) to stop chronic seizures. Has a scholarship program that has awarded scholarships to over 5,000 kids. He has written four best-selling books. Served on the boards of Kellogg and Costco. A plethora of honorary degrees. Awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom (the nation's highest civilian award).
But he "told a false quote," so he's stupid. ::)
My point exactly!! A man with his credentials would never make such a mistake about common knowledge.
I think he told it knowing it was fake. What do you think?
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jesus freaks don't play well with the Jews .
Sure they do.
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My point exactly!! A man with his credentials would never make such a mistake about common knowledge.
I think he told it knowing it was fake. What do you think?
I think that's stupid.
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I think that's stupid.
So the idea that a higly educated brilliant intelligent man has the knowledge-level of a 12 year old when it comes to history is more believable than the fact that he told it on purpose?
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So the idea that a higly educated brilliant intelligent man has the knowledge-level of a 12 year old when it comes to history is more believable than the fact that he told it on purpose?
No. The fact you took an alleged misstatement and used that to try and show the man isn't extremely intelligent is stupid. I gave you part of his pedigree. I've also read three of his books. I'll go with his body of work, and what I've read, rather than some clip you pulled off the internet (which I haven't watched).
I think I'm losing brain cells even talking about this.
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No, I mean crying and whining because an incredibly intelligent and successful "Jesus Freak" might be involved in national public policy debates.
That really worked out well for Bachmann, Perry, etc... didn't it? Remind me again how well they did in their party's primaries.
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What you say assumes that everyone who has business experience automatically has common sense. Of course, that's demonstrably not the case. And while people that are left-of-center are likely to have positions that disagree with mine and yours, I don't think that means that none of them have economic commonsense. I know plenty left-of-center people whose economic positions I disagree with but are both successful and have more economic common sense than many right-of-center people I know.
There's people advocating all sorts of stupid ideas - stupidity isn't a left thing or a right thing. Stupid idea should be called out, because stupidity is bad.
Wouldn't that "businessman" automatically be a politician, having had to run for and win the Presidency?
Increasing minimum wage is in no way a problem. You have record profits by CEO/corps and adjusted for inflation the lowest min wage in the last fifty years. It's fucking basic commonsense, Henry Ford knew it. Give people a working wage and they will spend it making the economy stronger. Those with excess horde, there is no trickle down, no sound economic theory supports it's contentions.
The magnitude of the increase is the key, but here in Canada, it's over 10 bucks and trust me, Mcdonalds still makes money. However, pretty much everyone has money to spend, buy goods, invest a little etc which further improves the economy.
Psychology is probably epiphenomenal to sound economic theory, but it is germane to the discussion and right now the US has no positivity and the trust is gone.
I do like the utopian idea of self responsibility but as the population grows it's a distant memory. Everyone has rights to the resources of the earth, or none at all, people are being exploited, look at Africa, the crop lands, oil, diamonds pure rape.
I don't see the point of living unless you aren't making someone else's better.
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The Good Lord has a tremendous sense of humor -- I can't wait for the laughing stock that will be the 2016 Republican primaries.
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That really worked out well for Bachmann, Perry, etc... didn't it? Remind me again how well they did in their party's primaries.
You already know how Bachmann and Perry did in the primaries/caucuses, which has nothing to do with you crying about Carson being involved in public policy.
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The Good Lord has a tremendous sense of humor -- I can't wait for the laughing stock that will be the 2016 Republican primaries.
I suspect he'll be laughing at Biden more than anything.
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Sure they do.
well, in the sense they laugh at them and dont take them seriously, plays well in the Catskills.
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You already know how Bachmann and Perry did in the primaries/caucuses, which has nothing to do with you crying about Carson being involved in public policy.
Dude, this woman runs a gay conversion clinic, believes the earth is 6000 years old, that C02 is not harmful etc. recently she voted to no to reopening the government yet when asked about the shutdown being over, she stated " thank god for the adults in the room", this bitch voted against and is calling the..
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Dude, this woman runs a gay conversion clinic, believes the earth is 6000 years old, that C02 is not harmful etc. recently she voted to no to reopening the government yet when asked about the shutdown being over, she stated " thank god for the adults in the room", this bitch voted against and is calling the..
I like Bachmann a lot, but we were talking about Dr. Ben Carson.
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I like Bachmann a lot, but we were talking about Dr. Ben Carson.
The megalomaniac that thinks he can speak directly to god and that god has an epic plan for him? that guy?
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I like Bachmann a lot, but we were talking about Dr. Ben Carson.
LOL
why am I not surprised you like Bachmann A LOT
btw - if the good doctor decided to run he's going to need a fellow surgeon on call 24/7 to remove his foot from his mouth
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The megalomaniac that thinks he can speak directly to god and that god has an epic plan for him? that guy?
No. The world renowned, brilliant, incredibly successful brain surgeon. That guy.
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He graduated from Yale undergrad, Michigan medical school. Was the youngest director of pediatric neurosurgery at Johns Hopkins. The first to ever successfully separate twins conjoined at the head. Pioneered hemispherecty (sp?), (removing half of a person's brain) to stop chronic seizures. Has a scholarship program that has awarded scholarships to over 5,000 kids. He has written four best-selling books. Served on the boards of Kellogg and Costco. A plethora of honorary degrees. Awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom (the nation's highest civilian award).
Thats very impressive and yet he goes on public television and gets caught in a lie the most stupid high school student would know to be false.
So again is he an idiot who "just" got lucky on every exam/surgery he performed or did he say the lie knowing it was false yet said it anyway?
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Thats very impressive and yet he goes on public television and gets caught in a lie the most stupid high school student would know to be false.
So again is he an idiot who "just" got lucky on every exam/surgery he performed or did he say the lie knowing it was false yet said it anyway?
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I like Bachmann a lot, but we were talking about Dr. Ben Carson.
The fact you are stupid enough to like Bachmann a lot is all the proof we need that Carson is a wacked out Jesus Freak as well.
Yeah. Tell me again how the holy rollers did in the primaries? Can't blame it on the Dems either as their own party rejected them. Won't be any different for Carson either.
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No. The world renowned, brilliant, incredibly successful brain surgeon. That guy.
...who claims to talk to God. Yeah. That guy. ::)
What's the excuse going to be when he flames out in his own party's primary? Is that part of God's plan too or is God just rejecting his ass like the GOP voters are as well?
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You still dont like to think do you?
Your god would not have given you a brain if he didnt mean for you to use it.
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The fact you are stupid enough to like Bachmann a lot is all the proof we need that Carson is a wacked out Jesus Freak as well.
Yeah. Tell me again how the holy rollers did in the primaries? Can't blame it on the Dems either as their own party rejected them. Won't be any different for Carson either.
Yes, I like Bachmann a lot. And what's funny is she is a lot smarter and more accomplished than you. :)
If you don't know how "the holy rollers did in the primaries," you should use your friend Google. Not that hard.
But none of that has anything to do with Dr. Carson, who also a lot smarter and more accomplished than you. I'm sure you'll be whining about him for the next few years.
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You still dont like to think do you?
Your god would not have given you a brain if he didnt mean for you to use it.
Silence troll.
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Yes, I like Bachmann a lot. And what's funny is she is a lot smarter and more accomplished than you. :)
If you don't know how "the holy rollers did in the primaries," you should use your friend Google. Not that hard.
But none of that has anything to do with Dr. Carson, who also a lot smarter and more accomplished than you. I'm sure you'll be whining about him for the next few years.
By that means, she must be 100x more smarter and accomplished than you. But anyone thinking she is smart in the first place is just an idiot. No surprise there.
I don't want Google to tell me about the primary results. I want you to. I want to hear your explanation on how the holy rollers really did so well these past primaries. So well in fact that the rest of the party nominated a Mormon. Surely that has some kind of logical explanation. Let's hear it.
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By that means, she must be 100x more smarter and accomplished than you. But anyone thinking she is smart in the first place is just an idiot. No surprise there.
I don't want Google to tell me about the primary results. I want you to. I want to hear your explanation on how the holy rollers really did so well these past primaries. So well in fact that the rest of the party nominated a Mormon. Surely that has some kind of logical explanation. Let's hear it.
Yes, she is smarter and more accomplished than me. And she's smarter and more accomplished than you.
Like I tell my kids, I'm not going to think for you. Do your own homework.
And buy plenty of tissue. Sniff sniff . . . :)
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Yes, I like Bachmann a lot. And what's funny is she is a lot smarter and more accomplished than you. :)
If you don't know how "the holy rollers did in the primaries," you should use your friend Google. Not that hard.
But none of that has anything to do with Dr. Carson, who also a lot smarter and more accomplished than you. I'm sure you'll be whining about him for the next few years.
yeah but the question is will he be whining more than you do about Obama,that's the question :D
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Yes, she is smarter and more accomplished than me. And she's smarter and more accomplished than you.
Like I tell my kids, I'm not going to think for you. Do your own homework.
And buy plenty of tissue. Sniff sniff . . . :)
Translation : I can't make an argument to support my view. So I will just resort to deflection.
Not surprising coming from someone thinking Bachmann as "smart".
So how are these Jesus Freaks going to convince the nation to elect them when they can't even get their own party to nominate them? Please... share your delusions with us.
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yeah but the question is will he be whining more than you do about Obama,that's the question :D
Probably not. lol
Although I just state the facts about him more than anything.
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Translation : I can't make an argument to support my view. So I will just resort to deflection.
Not surprising coming from someone thinking Bachmann as "smart".
So how are these Jesus Freaks going to convince the nation to elect them when they can't even get their own party to nominate them? Please... share your delusions with us.
Nah. You set up a straw man. I'll let you knock it down.
I'm happy to encourage Dr. Carson to stay involved in public policy. I'll leave the straw men and whining about "Jesus Freaks" to you.
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Probably not. lol
Although I just state the facts about him more than anything.
state facts?
You didn't even watch the video
Maybe that will be your strategy when Carson makes a fool of himself
You'll just never watch the videos and keep asserting what a brilliant man he is
gotta keep that mancrush alive
Didn't watch the clip.
He's brilliant. Also, I think his foundation has provided scholarships to kids in every state. He's a Great American.
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Why do liberals feel so empowered to make bigoted remarks against Christians? I thought you guys were the ones always fighting against hate speech?
Yet , when you see a Christian politician, "Jesus Freak" is the first thing to come out of your mouth. And you think nothing of it.
Mass Media tell you its ok. that's why.
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We've already heard enough of your deflections. Let's hear some of your delusions now.
Asking you to elaborate on what you posted and you run away. What's the matter? Can't offer a reason your own party doesn't support the Jesus Freaks?
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Why do liberals feel so empowered to make bigoted remarks against Christians? I thought you guys were the ones always fighting against hate speech?
Yet , when you see a Christian politician, "Jesus Freak" is the first thing to come out of your mouth. And you think nothing of it.
Mass Media tell you its ok. that's why.
It's typical. Liberals are intolerant of opinions and views they don't agree with. Abject hypocrisy by the people who preach tolerance.
I've tracking that hypocrisy for years: http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=285614.0
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Why do liberals feel so empowered to make bigoted remarks against Christians? I thought you guys were the ones always fighting against hate speech?
Yet , when you see a Christian politician, "Jesus Freak" is the first thing to come out of your mouth. And you think nothing of it.
Mass Media tell you its ok. that's why.
There are plenty of Christian politicians. Nearly every POTUS has been one. How many POTUS have been nutty schizophrenics? Oh... none. Because they can't even make through their own parties primary.
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Why do liberals feel so empowered to make bigoted remarks against Christians? I thought you guys were the ones always fighting against hate speech?
Yet , when you see a Christian politician, "Jesus Freak" is the first thing to come out of your mouth. And you think nothing of it.
Mass Media tell you its ok. that's why.
I've seen christians call themselves jesus freaks so obviously to some it's a term of endearment
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It's typical. Liberals are intolerant of opinions and views they don't agree with. Abject hypocrisy by the people who preach tolerance.
I've tracking that hypocrisy for years: http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=285614.0
christians aren't exactly tolerant but then neither is christianity
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You can't explain hypocrisy to hypocrites.
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I've seen christians call themselves jesus freaks so obviously to some it's a term of endearment
OK but a "term of endearment" is not how its being used on this board.
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christians aren't exactly tolerant but then neither is christianity
so your argument defending your bigoted remarks is "yeah but they started it"??????
OK. just checking.
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so your argument defending your bigoted remarks is "yeah but they started it"??????
OK. just checking.
I'm pointing out that christians are not tolerant yet they piss and moan when others are not tolerant of their stupid and often bigoted statements
If christians are offended by the term jesus freak then they should start by cleaning out their own house because plenty of christians proudly refer to themselves as such. Do a quick google search and you will find tshirts, coffee mugs, baseball caps, etc.. proudly claiming to be a jesus freak
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I'm pointing out that christians are not tolerant yet they piss and moan when others are not tolerant of their stupid and often bigoted statements
If christians are offended by the term jesus freak then they should start by cleaning out their own house because plenty of christians proudly refer to themselves as such. Do a quick google search and you will find tshirts, coffee mugs, baseball caps, etc.. proudly claiming to be a jesus freak
you just said "they started it" using other words.
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I'm pointing out that christians are not tolerant yet they piss and moan when others are not tolerant of their stupid and often bigoted statements
If christians are offended by the term jesus freak then they should start by cleaning out their own house because plenty of christians proudly refer to themselves as such. Do a quick google search and you will find tshirts, coffee mugs, baseball caps, etc.. proudly claiming to be a jesus freak
so can I start using the N word? and then tell them that "they should clean their own house first" when some black dude tries to murder me?
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you just said "they started it" using other words.
no I didn't
intolerance precedes christians and everything else
It's a basic human response
also, sometimes intolerance is perfectly acceptable
I'm intolerant of stupid assholes and I assume you probably are too
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no I didn't
intolerance precedes christians and everything else
It's a basic human response
also, sometimes intolerance is perfectly acceptable
I'm intolerant of stupid assholes and I assume you probably are too
LOL. and when you say sometimes, you mean when YOU deem it acceptable. everyone else is just bigoted. you're drowning in your own bullshit.
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so can I start using the N word? and then tell them that "they should clean their own house first" when some black dude tries to murder me?
feel free to use whatever words you'd like
makes no difference to me
btw - many blacks have expressed that exact same opinion about cleaning their own house
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feel free to use whatever words you'd like
makes no difference to me
btw - many blacks have expressed that exact same opinion about cleaning their own house
except you know that you nor I ever will use that word. Why? because society has deemed it "hate speech". but "jesus freak" can be used by whomever. a lot of people in this thread are obviously comfortable with it. to you they're the same thing right?
do me a favor use your bulletproof logic tomorrow at the grocery store.
go to one store and say very loudly that you "can't stand all of these god damn jesus freaks!!!"
go to the next store and yell that you "can't stand all of these god damn N words"!!
tell us how it goes.
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LOL. and when you say sometimes, you mean when YOU deem it acceptable. everyone else is just bigoted. you're drowning in your own bullshit.
yes, sometimes intolerance is perfectly acceptable
should blacks in this country have tolerated racism ?
should gays tolerate discrimination?
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yes, sometimes intolerance is perfectly acceptable
should blacks in this country have tolerated racism ?
should gays tolerate discrimination?
should Christians tolerate the term "jesus freak"?
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yes, sometimes intolerance is perfectly acceptable
should blacks in this country have tolerated racism ?
should gays tolerate discrimination?
you're dancing around the issue and you're too stupid to realize it. just fucking admit you're a bigot and hate Christians already.
no one reading this will defend your logic. because your argument holds no logic. if anyone is willing to defend his logic let me know. otherwise there's no more need for me to post here.
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except you know that you nor I ever will use that word. Why? because society has deemed it "hate speech". but "jesus freak" can be used by whomever. a lot of people in this thread are obviously comfortable with it. to you they're the same thing right?
do me a favor use your bulletproof logic tomorrow at the grocery store.
go to one store and say very loudly that you "can't stand all of these god damn jesus freaks!!!"
go to the next store and yell that you "can't stand all of these god damn N words"!!
tell us how it goes.
do blacks walk around in shirts and baseball caps claiming they are proud to be a niqqer?
maybe they do and I'm not aware of it (I wouldn't be surprised)
http://www.spreadshirt.com/jesus+freak+t-shirts
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you're dancing around the issue and you're too stupid to realize it. just fucking admit you're a bigot and hate Christians already.
no one reading this will defend your logic. because your argument holds no logic. if anyone is willing to defend his logic let me know. otherwise there's no more need for me to post here.
LOL
sounds like you're getting frustrated and are dying to project your beliefs on to me
I've never said I hate christians
I certainly find some of the ways that people choose to interpret and express their beliefs to be repugnant
one example would be Fred Phelps
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Why do liberals feel so empowered to make bigoted remarks against Christians? I thought you guys were the ones always fighting against hate speech?
Yet , when you see a Christian politician, "Jesus Freak" is the first thing to come out of your mouth. And you think nothing of it.
Mass Media tell you its ok. that's why.
No such thing as hate speech, just speech which should be free. I will leave the labels and emotional baggage to those on the receiving end.
Christians believe in something that isn't provable, not only belief, but actually live their lives according to this book. How absurd is it that someone would use a book written so long ago to guide life now a days? half the shit in the bible isn't even practiced making it a piecemeal criticism shield.
You are suppose to stone those who work on the Sabbath , not mix fabrics amongst other crazy shit that makes no sense. This point is clearly understandable to them as they do less of the senseless shit and more of the feel good stuff. It's a dangerous thing when people suspend reason in favor of cuddles.
For example you have Dr. Ben Carson, suggesting that he can speak to god (He cannot, as I cannot, both human I assume) and that god has a plan for him. This fantasy gives him all the confidence in the world, GOD has a plan for him, he is protected. If the plan changes, god works in mysterious ways I guess. No juxtapose that with the plan god has for bubu chichurri the one eyed African toddler with malaria. His plan for this boi was to have his suffer from birth and die soon. The world makes sense, physics, biology, math etc all sensible and intelligible, all rational. Compare that with gods actions and it appears illogical, such as how can evil exist, why? because it is, because it's made up.
Your story doesn't fit reality, notice how fewer and fewer religions are being established, mostly medieval relics which inspire awe as the religious have trouble imagining a time without them.
Take Haidar for example, he is a pagan unisexist brought up in a catholic home with muslim parents and a Taoist parapalegic step-brother from a exchange program aimed at improving gay awareness. Does this make him less logical, I would argue yes.
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do blacks walk around in shirts and baseball caps claiming they are proud to be a niqqer?
maybe they do and I'm not aware of it (I wouldn't be surprised)
http://www.spreadshirt.com/jesus+freak+t-shirts
LOL. dude you do understand that those t shirts are made because Christians with a good sense of humor are trying to take a pejorative term used to describe them and make it into a joke right? the only reason they made the shirts in the first place are that people would call them this to insult them. They're beating the bully to the punch. Come on man. How don't you see that?
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LOL
sounds like you're getting frustrated and are dying to project your beliefs on to me
I've never said I hate christians
I certainly find some of the ways that people choose to interpret and express their beliefs to be repugnant
one example would be Fred Phelps
you hate the republican party. you see them as inextricably linked to conservative Christians. so you make it your duty to constantly demean Christians and make them your bitch. I get it. but don't try and bullshit me and claim that you don't harbor a good deal of negative feeling towards them as a group. because you obviously do. anyone who reads your posts can see that. you hate just like everyone else hates.
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you hate the republican party. you see them as inextricably linked to conservative Christians. so you make it your duty to constantly demean Christians and make them your bitch. I get it. but don't try and bullshit me and claim that you don't harbor a good deal of negative feeling towards them as a group. because you obviously do. anyone who reads your posts can see that. you hate just like everyone else hates.
if you'd like to provide some of my quotes to support you claims then do so
otherwise stop telling me what I believe
just because I criticize the actions of certain people doesn't mean I hate them, their organization, etc..
If you want to find haters on this board it shouldn't be too hard
just look for the posts with FU !!! ALL CAPS, PROFANITY and actually saying they hate something but stop projecting your beliefs on to me
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What you say assumes that everyone who has business experience automatically has common sense. Of course, that's demonstrably not the case. And while people that are left-of-center are likely to have positions that disagree with mine and yours, I don't think that means that none of them have economic commonsense. I know plenty left-of-center people whose economic positions I disagree with but are both successful and have more economic common sense than many right-of-center people I know.
And how do these people feel about what is happening? Are they with Obama or against him when it comes to economic decisions? And if in the position, would they be making the same decisions as the extreme left? Like I said about Carter, he created wealth for himself but does not want the same for his country.
There's people advocating all sorts of stupid ideas - stupidity isn't a left thing or a right thing. Stupid idea should be called out, because stupidity is bad.
Wouldn't that "businessman" automatically be a politician, having had to run for and win the Presidency?
To a certain extent, yes, but when it comes to an economics I would have to say he be making more of a business decision than a political one. I personally like Donald Trumps thinking on this. If Obama was the CEO of a company, he would have been fired a loooong time ago.
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if you'd like to provide some of my quotes to support you claims then do so
otherwise stop telling me what I believe
just because I criticize the actions of certain people doesn't mean I hate them, their organization, etc..
If you want to find haters on this board it shouldn't be too hard
just look for the posts with FU !!! ALL CAPS, PROFANITY and actually saying they hate something but stop projecting your beliefs on to me
well you sound an awful lot like a conservative defending their position on abortion and gay marriage when liberals accuse them of hating gays and women.
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Why do liberals feel so empowered to make bigoted remarks against Christians? I thought you guys were the ones always fighting against hate speech?
Yet , when you see a Christian politician, "Jesus Freak" is the first thing to come out of your mouth. And you think nothing of it.
Mass Media tell you its ok. that's why.
Im pretty sure just about every president has been Christian Bear.
Its the nutjobs liberals dont like.
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Im pretty sure just about every president has been Christian Bear.
Its the nutjobs liberals dont like.
Washington and Jefferson were most likely Deist, maybe others as well
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deism
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Washington and Jefferson were most likely Deist, maybe others as well
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deism
Thanks:)
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No such thing as hate speech, just speech which should be free. I will leave the labels and emotional baggage to those on the receiving end.
Christians believe in something that isn't provable, not only belief, but actually live their lives according to this book. How absurd is it that someone would use a book written so long ago to guide life now a days? half the shit in the bible isn't even practiced making it a piecemeal criticism shield.
You are suppose to stone those who work on the Sabbath , not mix fabrics amongst other crazy shit that makes no sense. This point is clearly understandable to them as they do less of the senseless shit and more of the feel good stuff. It's a dangerous thing when people suspend reason in favor of cuddles.
For example you have Dr. Ben Carson, suggesting that he can speak to god (He cannot, as I cannot, both human I assume) and that god has a plan for him. This fantasy gives him all the confidence in the world, GOD has a plan for him, he is protected. If the plan changes, god works in mysterious ways I guess. No juxtapose that with the plan god has for bubu chichurri the one eyed African toddler with malaria. His plan for this boi was to have his suffer from birth and die soon. The world makes sense, physics, biology, math etc all sensible and intelligible, all rational. Compare that with gods actions and it appears illogical, such as how can evil exist, why? because it is, because it's made up.
Your story doesn't fit reality, notice how fewer and fewer religions are being established, mostly medieval relics which inspire awe as the religious have trouble imagining a time without them.
Take Haidar for example, he is a pagan unisexist brought up in a catholic home with muslim parents and a Taoist parapalegic step-brother from a exchange program aimed at improving gay awareness. Does this make him less logical, I would argue yes.
The kicker is that not only do they live their life based on a fairy tale, they attempt to control other people's lives with the same warped principles. ::)
But hey... it's God's plan.
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And how do these people feel about what is happening? Are they with Obama or against him when it comes to economic decisions?
Oh brother... "with him" and "against him". ::)
How do they feel? I don't know. What I do know is that unlike you I don't think there's two kinds of people: (R) and (D) people, who see world as black and white and unconditionally agree with some official party position. There are people like that to be sure: they are the blindly partisan and largely unthinking fools which are colloquially referred to as "the base".
And if in the position, would they be making the same decisions as the extreme left? Like I said about Carter, he created wealth for himself but does not want the same for his country.
Maybe they would, maybe they wouldn't. I don't know what purpose playing a hypothetical game about what some other person would do if he were, magically, substituted for Obama. If I wake up one morning and find that a tree has fallen on my car, hypothesizing what would have happened if I parked my car a little to the left or if I stopped at Starbucks on my way home won't change the fact that my car has been crashed by a tree.
To a certain extent, yes, but when it comes to an economics I would have to say he be making more of a business decision than a political one.
I'm not sure what this means?
I personally like Donald Trumps thinking on this. If Obama was the CEO of a company, he would have been fired a loooong time ago.
LOL... Donald Trump! That you find anything that toupee-wearing media celebrity whore who plays a businessman on a tv "reality" show to be credible - or even remotely interesting - speaks volumes. But we should address the content of the statement, not just the mouthpiece that spat it out: and the content isn't bad in theory (or original to Donald Trump for that matter).
I agree that Obama is not a particularly good President by just about any metric I consider useful or valid. Would he have been fired if he were a CEO instead? Who cares? I mean, you might as well ask if he would be classified as a cubist if he were an artist, or whether he would specialize in rhinoplasty if he were a plastic surgeon.
Obama is the President. Instead of fucking around with hypotheticals and getting handjobs from Donald Trump, why not find sensible ways to undo or at least mitigate the damage that our elected representatives are actively doing to our country until we can vote someone else† into office?
† who will, unfortunately, be just as bad, even if they're nothing like the current pile of shit.
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should Christians tolerate the term "jesus freak"?
if they are baptist, then they should be used to it.
we Episcopalians aren't in the same class.
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I hope he stays involved. We need people like him involved with public policy.
Sounds like Dr Carson wants to be on the Trump ticket.
Ben Carson defends Donald Trump
Retired neurosurgeon and presidential candidate Ben Carson said Tuesday that he thinks the focus on Donald Trump's recent incendiary comments is "petty" and that the real estate mogul has no reason to drop out of the 2016 race.
"For us to get caught up in a controversy of well, 'What did Donald Trump mean when he said that?' -- It just seems so petty to me," Carson told reporters after speaking to a group of teenage Republicans in Arlington, Va.
[Poll: Trump surges to big lead in GOP presidential race]
Several Republican presidential contenders have said Trump should be disqualified from the presidential race for saying that Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) is not a war hero. Carson disagreed.
"I’m not sure from listening to what he said that he think that Mr. McCain is not a hero," Carson said. "He has repeatedly said yes, he is a hero, so I don’t know where that comes from that he’s disqualified."
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
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A Trump-Carson ticket would surely be the sign we've reached the Idiocracy Singularity
I'm waiting for Terry Crews to announce in candidacy
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arrogant guy
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and probably the first to drop out due to lack of funds/billionaire backer.
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What's his lame ass excuse going to be when "God" picks a Democrat to be POTUS?
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How insane is it that his quote will be viewed positively by some. He is literally claiming to talk to god, receive direction etc. A sign of a good leader is one that defaults to another leader who is invisible. Like North Korea.
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How insane is it that his quote will be viewed positively by some. He is literally claiming to talk to god, receive direction etc. A sign of a good leader is one that defaults to another leader who is invisible. Like North Korea.
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How insane is it that his quote will be viewed positively by some. He is literally claiming to talk to god, receive direction etc. A sign of a good leader is one that defaults to another leader who is invisible. Like North Korea.
Is it not insane then to believe?
You're argument seems to be that if a person believes in God, that would be ok. But, if they see and hear what they believe to be true, then it's not insane?
I run into the same issue. Many who I know believe in God appear to be rational, intelligent, thoughtful people. But, if they told me they were in direct communication of God, I would think them nuts. Seems to be a paradox though.
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Is it not insane then to believe?
You're argument seems to be that if a person believes in God, that would be ok. But, if they see and hear what they believe to be true, then it's not insane?
I run into the same issue. Many who I know believe in God appear to be rational, intelligent, thoughtful people. But, if they told me they were in direct communication of God, I would think them nuts. Seems to be a paradox though.
is it sane to believe, is that the question? the wording is awkward.
Believing in a god is fine, no one knows, I know this because I don't know, i am a human. Humans cannot talk to god quite clearly, so anyone claiming so is likely delusional.
For example, it's god's plan to nurture dr carson to the POTUS, while simultaneously hatching a plan for childhood leukaemia, it makes no sense. The lack of sense is how we can tell delusion, facts and reality matter, a schizo is indistinguishable from a believer if they are pious enough.
You can't have people claiming to talk to god running shit, I want to hear he is in control, not fucking taking orders from his subconscious.
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You have a link for this quote by Dr. Carson? I plugged it into Google and couldn't find it.
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is it sane to believe, is that the question? the wording is awkward.
Believing in a god is fine, no one knows, I know this because I don't know, i am a human. Humans cannot talk to god quite clearly, so anyone claiming so is likely delusional.
For example, it's god's plan to nurture dr carson to the POTUS, while simultaneously hatching a plan for childhood leukaemia, it makes no sense. The lack of sense is how we can tell delusion, facts and reality matter, a schizo is indistinguishable from a believer if they are pious enough.
You can't have people claiming to talk to god running shit, I want to hear he is in control, not fucking taking orders from his subconscious.
So despite being an Obama supporter, you think he is delusional?
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You have a link for this quote by Dr. Carson? I plugged it into Google and couldn't find it.
Bump. Is this another false quote Lurker?
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So despite being an Obama supporter, you think he is delusional?
Black and white thinking is a sign of low intellect, just saying. :-\
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Bump. Is this another false quote Lurker?
It's on the internet. Therefore it has to be real. ::)
Surely you don't have a problem with false quotes. Seeing how you were the fan club President of the king of false quotes.
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Black and white thinking is a sign of low intellect, just saying. :-\
Overstatements are often a sign of being a simpleton. Just sayin . . . .
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It's on the internet. Therefore it has to be real. ::)
Surely you don't have a problem with false quotes. Seeing how you were the fan club President of the king of false quotes.
I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt. So it's yet another quote you attributed to someone that turned out to be false. This has turned into a pattern. Did you not know it was false or were you just being a gullible hack?
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I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt. So it's yet another quote you attributed to someone that turned out to be false. This has turned into a pattern. Did you not know it was false or were you just being a gullible hack?
It's true. It's listed on his website. Right next to the outline of the plan he claims that "the Good Lord" has for him.
Again, false quotes bother you? Or is that a recent development?
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It's true. It's listed on his website. Right next to the outline of the plan he claims that "the Good Lord" has for him.
Again, false quotes bother you? Or is that a recent development?
I just looked at his website. I don't see it. https://www.bencarson.com
Which part of the website did you get the quote from?
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I just looked at his website. I don't see it. https://www.bencarson.com
Which part of the website did you get the quote from?
" Right next to the outline of the plan he claims that "the Good Lord" has for him."
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" Right next to the outline of the plan he claims that "the Good Lord" has for him."
I see. So you either knowingly or unwittingly posted a false quote attributed to Dr. Carson, and you cannot man and up and admit it (again).
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Carson must think he is running for Supreme Leader or christian mullah or something
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I see. So you either knowingly or unwittingly posted a false quote attributed to Dr. Carson, and you cannot man and up and admit it (again).
False quotes only *just now* bother you, but not when you were cheerleading the king of false quotes (again).
"I see".
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False quotes only *just now* bother you, but not when you were cheerleading the king of false quotes (again).
"I see".
It's ok. I know you routinely get fooled by false quotes on the internet.
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It's ok. I know you routinely ignore false quotes when they are about Dems.
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girls, girls, please!
you're both pretty; calm down!
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girls, girls, please!
you're both pretty; calm down!
:o :D
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I hope he stays involved. We need people like him involved with public policy.
Dr. Ben Carson on Presidential Bid: The Good Lord Has a Plan
Thursday, 05 Dec 2013
By Bill Hoffmann
Renowned neurosurgeon Ben Carson inched closer to declaring a 2016 run for the White House on Thursday, saying that while he never expected to seek public office, "the good Lord had a different plan for me."
Asked by Steve Malzberg on Newsmax TV about several grass-roots campaigns to draft him for a presidential run on the Republican ticket, Carson said:
"As far as my running for public office, that was never my intention. I thought when I retired I was going to play golf and learn how to play an organ.
"But, obviously, the good Lord had a different plan for me. I will obviously listen, but that is not what I really had intended to do."
Carson, the former chief for pediatric neurosurgery at the Johns Hopkins Children's Center, said his goal is to "make sure the American people have their eyes open and recognize what's happening and understand that we the people are not each other's enemies.
"The enemies are those people jerking everybody's chains and trying to make them think they're enemies and driving in wedges at particular … to divide and conquer."
Carson opposes President Barack Obama's ongoing call for a $2.85 hike in the federal minimum wage, which currently stands at $7.25 an hour, or around $15,000 a year.
"No one should expect to start out making a lot of money … I worked many, many jobs as a youngster growing up in Detroit. Many of them didn't even pay minimum wage but what they did pay me was an opportunity for me to gain significant experience," Carson said.
"In one case, I took a job as a lab assistant at my high school but I learned enough that I was able to compete successfully against college kids for a lab position at a university when I was still in high school. I couldn't have gotten that if I hadn't done the various low-wage jobs.
He said Americans need to "recognize that there's an actual progression that occurs as you make yourself more valuable.
"But you have to have some place to start and if we make that learning place a point where employers have to pay you more than you actually bring to the job … what that is doing is hurting particularly our young people. They need a place to start. So we have to be able to look at the big picture."
Carson also spoke of the value of reading and urged people to limit the amount of time they watch television.
"I've been asking [people to] promise themselves that they will subtract half an hour or an hour a day from their television watching and read," he said.
"Learn something, pick up an American history book, a world history book, an algebra book, something. You would be amazed at how much you will know after a year of just doing that."
He said he picked up the habit from his mother.
"My mother observed as … she worked as a domestic cleaning other people's houses, [that] these tended to be very successful people and where we lived there tended to be a lot of unsuccessful people," Carson said.
"She noticed they read a lot and they didn't look at a lot of television and they didn't waste a lot of time. So she came home and imposed that upon us. We were, of course, quite disgruntled.
"Her friends just criticized her severely. 'You can't make boys stay in the house and read books! They'll grow up but they'll hate you. I would say, mother you know they're right, but she wasn't going to listen to that. We had to do it."
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/ben-carson-president-lord-plan/2013/12/05/id/540340#ixzz2mioPn2C8
80% of BLACK households have NO father figure present. Who's fault is that ? Are whites responsible for a BLACK mens inability to care for their offspring? Blame everyone but YOURSELF.
Black Lives Matter...........my ass.
Just another BS slogan.
"Papa was a rolling stone, wherever he laid his hat was his home". ( Black musicians sang about this behavior in the 60's, and nothing has changed)
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Pat Robertson has already said God told him Dr. Carson will win and be the president.
might as well close all these political threads.
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Pat Robertson has already said God told him Dr. Carson will win and be the president.
might as well close all these political threads.
Yeah, well... you know, it was probably just a bad cellular connection because God was driving through an area with poor coverage and Pat's hearing isn't shitty to begin with.
So what God really was saying was: "PATTY-POO, I WAS JUST OVER AT CARSON'S SALON WITH MY BFF CHARLENE GETTING MANI-PEDIS AND GUESS WHO WALKS IN? THE DEVIL! WE WERE BOTH LIKE OMG, HE'S SO SEXY AND HOT AND... PAT? HELLO? CAN YOU HEAR ME!? AHH, MOTHERFUCKING HT&T!"
And what Pat heard was: "PAT... CARSON.. HEAR ME!"
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Yeah, well... you know, it was probably just a bad cellular connection because God was driving through an area with poor coverage and Pat's hearing isn't shitty to begin with.
So what God really was saying was: "PATTY-POO, I WAS JUST OVER AT CARSON'S SALON WITH MY BFF CHARLENE GETTING MANI-PEDIS AND GUESS WHO WALKS IN? THE DEVIL! WE WERE BOTH LIKE OMG, HE'S SO SEXY AND HOT AND... PAT? HELLO? CAN YOU HEAR ME!? AHH, MOTHERFUCKING HT&T!"
And what Pat heard was: "PAT... CARSON.. HEAR ME!"
I'm going to enjoy your posts !
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is it sane to believe, is that the question? the wording is awkward.
Believing in a god is fine, no one knows, I know this because I don't know, i am a human. Humans cannot talk to god quite clearly, so anyone claiming so is likely delusional.
For example, it's god's plan to nurture dr carson to the POTUS, while simultaneously hatching a plan for childhood leukaemia, it makes no sense. The lack of sense is how we can tell delusion, facts and reality matter, a schizo is indistinguishable from a believer if they are pious enough.
You can't have people claiming to talk to god running shit, I want to hear he is in control, not fucking taking orders from his subconscious.
No, you're talking about mere belief in a supernatural being that could've created all we know.
But religious people don't have typically have that mere belief, they also believe that God has communicated either directly to them or via a prophet the way things are supposed to be. They have entire rituals for worship, prayer, and the like.
So why aren't they considered insane? But somebody who claims such direct communication is insane?
I do the same thing myself, I just find it a paradox in labeling such people, lol.
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I can see the Left getting real flustered trying to find a way to label him a racist ;D
Good one :)...usually black Republicans are very stupid, ignorant and naive......Dr. Carson already raised eyebrows when he said that Homosexuality is a choice because prisoners have sex in prison
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No, you're talking about mere belief in a supernatural being that could've created all we know.
But religious people don't have typically have that mere belief, they also believe that God has communicated either directly to them or via a prophet the way things are supposed to be. They have entire rituals for worship, prayer, and the like.
So why aren't they considered insane? But somebody who claims such direct communication is insane?
I do the same thing myself, I just find it a paradox in labeling such people, lol.
It depends on how we define these things, are they insane in a psychotic manner? no, they are delusional.
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No, you're talking about mere belief in a supernatural being that could've created all we know.
But religious people don't have typically have that mere belief, they also believe that God has communicated either directly to them or via a prophet the way things are supposed to be. They have entire rituals for worship, prayer, and the like.
So why aren't they considered insane? But somebody who claims such direct communication is insane?
I do the same thing myself, I just find it a paradox in labeling such people, lol.
It's especially touching when they claim "it's all part of God's plan" and then turn around bitching nonstop about the outcome of certain events. For people who trust in this invisible being unconditionally, they sure don't have a lot of faith in his decisions.