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Title: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
Post by: anabolichalo on December 08, 2013, 04:08:44 AM
last injection was on monday


good night sweet gains
Title: Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
Post by: Rascal full on December 08, 2013, 04:44:18 AM
Have you been tapering down?
Title: Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
Post by: d0nny2600 on December 08, 2013, 04:56:00 AM
last injection was on monday


good night sweet gains
Soon…..its going to take longer now though…..soon
Title: Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
Post by: anabolichalo on December 08, 2013, 05:09:48 AM
Have you been tapering down?
getbig principles dictate that tapering down dosages is absurd since regarless of dosage the effect on natural sex hormones is the same - SHUT DOWN


therefor anything under an effective dosage for muscle mass enhancement is a waste
Title: Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
Post by: d0nny2600 on December 08, 2013, 05:10:28 AM
getbig principles dictate that tapering down dosages is absurd since regarless of dosage the effect on natural sex hormones is the same - SHUT DOWN


therefor anything under an effective dosage for muscle mass enhancement is a waste
Ronnie never came off….
Title: Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
Post by: anabolichalo on December 08, 2013, 05:12:50 AM
Ronnie never came off….

ronnie was a goddamn hero

i'm just an ordinary man
Title: Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
Post by: Rascal full on December 08, 2013, 05:13:56 AM
getbig principles dictate that tapering down dosages is absurd since regarless of dosage the effect on natural sex hormones is the same - SHUT DOWN


therefor anything under an effective dosage for muscle mass enhancement is a waste

Ok bro I wish you all the best. I have always found tapering down has helped me with the mental aspect of coming off. Kinda like jogging down a steep hill rather than jumping off a cliff.... :)
Title: Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
Post by: anabolichalo on December 08, 2013, 05:15:43 AM
Ok bro I wish you all the best. I have always found tapering down has helped me with the mental aspect of coming off. Kinda like jogging down a steep hill rather than jumping off a cliff.... :)
right i can see it working from that angle
Title: Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
Post by: Borracho on December 08, 2013, 05:44:40 AM
Is it the acne that's making you come off?
Title: Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
Post by: Kwon_2 on December 08, 2013, 05:53:37 AM
last injection was on monday


good night sweet gains

Good goin!

How about visiting a tanning salon a bit as well?

Title: Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
Post by: Mr Nobody on December 08, 2013, 06:27:07 AM
Title: Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
Post by: no one on December 08, 2013, 06:28:27 AM

you wont last 6 weeks.

you look good till week 5 when you go off. at week 6 you get up in the am, look in the mirror and see a small fat man looking back at you.
Title: Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
Post by: _aj_ on December 08, 2013, 06:53:13 AM
you wont last 6 weeks.

you look good till week 5 when you go off. at week 6 you get up in the am, look in the mirror and see a small fat man looking back at you.

LOL. Horrible. 5 weeks is almost as good, right?
Title: Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
Post by: Thick Nick on December 08, 2013, 06:56:53 AM
No one cares. Please go away. That is all.
Title: Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
Post by: SquatsRule on December 08, 2013, 07:10:30 AM
Looking forward to Anabolichalo's next thread, "I'm staying on forever."
Title: Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
Post by: _aj_ on December 08, 2013, 07:14:58 AM
Looking forward to Anabolichalo's next thread, "I'm staying on forever."

For sure. The hoes are not going to see past the 18" cannons to notice the mange in your "hair" and the leprosy all over your back and shoulders. 600? Pfft. I see 1g+ in your future. Like in racing, baby, you don't brake into a curve, you hit that gas!
Title: Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
Post by: Rascal full on December 08, 2013, 07:25:01 AM
Like in racing, baby, you don't brake into a curve, you hit that gas!
   :D Good line!
Title: Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
Post by: Rascal full on December 08, 2013, 07:30:45 AM
On a serious note if you do actually want to go off completely here's some advice. Take HCG, proviron (although not hair friendly), keeping training hard, use creatine, don't weigh yourself and find something to occupy your mind. Those 60 days will fly by and you can start up again with freshly gleaming receptors  :)
Title: Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on December 08, 2013, 08:22:54 AM
Self administered TRT for the win
Title: Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
Post by: anabolichalo on December 08, 2013, 08:37:04 AM
On a serious note if you do actually want to go off completely here's some advice. Take HCG, proviron (although not hair friendly), keeping training hard, use creatine, don't weigh yourself and find something to occupy your mind. Those 60 days will fly by and you can start up again with freshly gleaming receptors  :)
that destroys the purpose of coming off then
Title: Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
Post by: Borracho on December 08, 2013, 08:44:43 AM
that destroys the purpose of coming off then

Fuck coming off...go on 100mg of test, get yourself some deca and keep growing. Hopefully that'll be better on your skin like it is on mine and not make your fall out either.
Title: Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
Post by: anabolichalo on December 08, 2013, 08:45:38 AM
Fuck coming off...go on 100mg of test, get yourself some deca and keep growing. Hopefully that'll be better on your skin like it is on mine and not make your fall out either.
doesnt deca + finasteride = brutal hairloss?
Title: Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
Post by: anabolichalo on December 08, 2013, 08:46:28 AM
maybe i should just go back on my former brand and run 1cc of that (300mg)


maybe 300 mg of that is superior to 500mg of this

i still have a bottle
Title: Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
Post by: Borracho on December 08, 2013, 08:47:19 AM
doesnt deca + finasteride = brutal hairloss?

You won't need finasteride with that little amount of test. If you respond like the average person does to deca you will not have hair loss issues with it.
Title: Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
Post by: anabolichalo on December 08, 2013, 08:48:46 AM
You won't need finasteride with that little amount of test. If you respond like the average person does to deca you will not have hair loss issues with it.
but i need finasteride even on no test :(
Title: Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
Post by: Rascal full on December 08, 2013, 08:49:39 AM
Get some Nizarol shampoo dude. Helps to reduce DHT in the scalp.
Title: Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
Post by: anabolichalo on December 08, 2013, 08:50:59 AM
Get some Nizarol shampoo dude. Helps to reduce DHT in the scalp.
nizoral has all sort of brand and concentration levels

furthermore it's not fda approved for hairloss


just not sure on the whole thing
Title: Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
Post by: Borracho on December 08, 2013, 08:52:39 AM
but i need finasteride even on no test :(

5% minoxidil is no bullshit.

dht will not be an issue with deca....minox has benefits don't rule it out.
Title: Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
Post by: Oly15 on December 08, 2013, 11:40:23 AM
Get some Nizarol shampoo dude. Helps to reduce DHT in the scalp.

I always find it funny when ppl say this when in fact there is not one single study much less proof that the chemical composition of ketoconazole inhibits dht. Zero.
Title: Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
Post by: Mr Nobody on December 08, 2013, 11:43:42 AM
No cure for baldness never will be, just stay off heme-iron. Beaverton's dont have this problem west cost.
Title: Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
Post by: anabolichalo on December 08, 2013, 11:44:19 AM
I always find it funny when ppl say this when in fact there is not one single study much less proof that the chemical composition of ketoconazole inhibits dht. Zero.
my hairloss guru says finasteride works

everything else is shit
Title: Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
Post by: Dago_Joe on December 08, 2013, 12:00:01 PM
I always find it funny when ppl say this when in fact there is not one single study much less proof that the chemical composition of ketoconazole inhibits dht. Zero.

I did find that I seemed to lose less hair when I used Nizoral during a cycle.  No way i could prove it was the nizoral, but I lost much more hair on my cycle before i added nizoral.  Again, not saying it is fact, just anecdotal evidence.  Seems a lot of science starts that way... 
Title: Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
Post by: Borracho on December 08, 2013, 12:25:58 PM
I did find that I seemed to lose less hair when I used Nizoral during a cycle.  No way i could prove it was the nizoral, but I lost much more hair on my cycle before i added nizoral.  Again, not saying it is fact, just anecdotal evidence.  Seems a lot of science starts that way... 

Its good at reducing excess sebum which is more likely when using steroids. It's an antifungal and if hairloss is occuring from that it will will help but I don't recall if it has dht inhibiting effects...
Title: Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
Post by: SmallPole on December 08, 2013, 12:26:31 PM
jesus fucking christ you're like a broken record
Title: Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
Post by: dr.chimps on December 08, 2013, 12:27:10 PM
Going off of nothing. Hope you don't crash.  
Title: Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on December 08, 2013, 12:32:33 PM
5% minoxidil is no bullshit.

dht will not be an issue with deca....minox has benefits don't rule it out.

It inhibits collagen synthesis... your face gets all wrinkly and you'll get bags under your eyes
Title: Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
Post by: Mr Nobody on December 08, 2013, 12:33:15 PM
Hair loss is all genetic. Ask Ferrigno, Yates, et al. No sense in worrying about it.
X2.
Title: Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
Post by: a_pupil on December 08, 2013, 01:16:35 PM
what is the purpose of the 2 months off?

why don't you try 6-8 weeks on and 4-6 weeks off? only use long esters for this as they will taper down in the weeks off so you don't crash. i like doing this because i get sick of pinning after a while. also you don't lose any visible muscle for the 1st month off.
Title: Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
Post by: Borracho on December 08, 2013, 02:00:49 PM
It inhibits collagen synthesis... your face gets all wrinkly and you'll get bags under your eyes

And deca increases collagen synthesis...problem solved  :D

But really, I didn't notice any problems with it when I used it. Same with finasteride...
Title: Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
Post by: Rascal full on December 08, 2013, 02:02:55 PM
what is the purpose of the 2 months off?

why don't you try 6-8 weeks on and 4-6 weeks off? only use long esters for this as they will taper down in the weeks off so you don't crash. i like doing this because i get sick of pinning after a while. also you don't lose any visible muscle for the 1st month off.

Sensible idea actually. I do find steroids mentally addictive but then I have an addictive personality. I can't drink anymore because I just can't drink sensibly. Everytime I have cycled off roids I have had to replace them with weed or go on holiday or do some sh!t to completely take my mind off them.
Title: Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
Post by: _aj_ on December 08, 2013, 04:51:44 PM
That didn't take long.
Title: Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
Post by: galeniko on December 08, 2013, 04:56:40 PM
LOL. Horrible. 5 weeks is almost as good, right?
first few weeks off will look the very best ever.

and then, boom, ineviatably towards skinnyfat, bit worse than before the cycle, bc test levels are entiraly shot.natty atleast have some test, and the athlete who goes off will be dominated by female hormones for a while.

Title: Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
Post by: galeniko on December 08, 2013, 05:00:35 PM
On a serious note if you do actually want to go off completely here's some advice. Take HCG, proviron (although not hair friendly), keeping training hard, use creatine, don't weigh yourself and find something to occupy your mind. Those 60 days will fly by and you can start up again with freshly gleaming receptors  :)
haha we got a comedian here
Title: Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
Post by: no one on December 08, 2013, 05:13:49 PM
haha we got a comedian here

lol I wasn't even going to respond :D
Title: Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
Post by: galeniko on December 08, 2013, 05:26:17 PM
lol I wasn't even going to respond :D
lets assume he was serious,lol,he said on a serious note after all

take hcg? really? so what for exaclty? lets see some studies on this helps to revocer own test production.would be a sales hit for trt clinics,no?

proviron? yeah that will sure help to clean up the hormonal mess when one goes off.

use creatine, haha, why?whatfor?

receptor recovery?

Title: Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
Post by: Dago_Joe on December 08, 2013, 05:34:45 PM
lets assume he was serious,lol,he said on a serious note after all

take hcg? really? so what for exaclty? lets see some studies on this helps to revocer own test production.would be a sales hit for trt clinics,no?

proviron? yeah that will sure help to clean up the hormonal mess when one goes off.

use creatine, haha, why?whatfor?

receptor recovery?



You are right.  No way around the crash when you come off.  HCG is not the answer at all.  Proviron might help a little with freeing up test by inhibiting SHBG, but not anything miraculous.  No way around it , you gotta pay the piper when you come off gear.  The crash is fucking horrible which is why most never come off high doses or "blast and cruise" forever.  TRT seems to be the way to go if you have been a long time gear abuser.  Or man up and suffer tremendously through the crash and hope your genes are strong and you kick your natural production in fast.  I couldn't stand the depression and lethargy, so just stay on TRT doses when not on full-blown.  I reckon most do that. 
Title: Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
Post by: Rascal full on December 08, 2013, 05:44:01 PM
lets assume he was serious,lol,he said on a serious note after all

take hcg? really? so what for exaclty? lets see some studies on this helps to revocer own test production.would be a sales hit for trt clinics,no?

proviron? yeah that will sure help to clean up the hormonal mess when one goes off.

use creatine, haha, why?whatfor?

receptor recovery?



No comedian dumbass just adding my two cents. I am not saying my suggestions will restore perfect hormonal balance but they are better than doing f*ck all.
Title: Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
Post by: Rascal full on December 08, 2013, 05:45:21 PM
lol I wasn't even going to respond :D

Interested to hear what you would advise if my ideas are so sh!t?
Title: Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
Post by: anabolichalo on December 10, 2013, 12:55:30 PM
i'm doing 150mg enanthate per week now for 8 weeks

wonder what to expect
Title: Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
Post by: macos on December 10, 2013, 01:22:32 PM
i'm doing 150mg enanthate per week now for 8 weeks

wonder what to expect
Wtf are you doing finally bro. there is another thread which read that you are staying on
Title: Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
Post by: anabolichalo on December 10, 2013, 01:32:39 PM
Wtf are you doing finally bro. there is another thread which read that you are staying on
this is staying on is it not?

at a low maintenance dose to avoid shut down


then after 8 week i up dose
Title: Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
Post by: macos on December 10, 2013, 01:35:33 PM
to avoid shutdown, better use some adex with proviron with hcg for some time. throw in some clen with to keep the protein synthesis up.