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Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
« Reply #25 on: December 08, 2013, 08:49:39 AM »
Get some Nizarol shampoo dude. Helps to reduce DHT in the scalp.

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Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
« Reply #26 on: December 08, 2013, 08:50:59 AM »
Get some Nizarol shampoo dude. Helps to reduce DHT in the scalp.
nizoral has all sort of brand and concentration levels

furthermore it's not fda approved for hairloss


just not sure on the whole thing

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Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
« Reply #27 on: December 08, 2013, 08:52:39 AM »
but i need finasteride even on no test :(

5% minoxidil is no bullshit.

dht will not be an issue with deca....minox has benefits don't rule it out.
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Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
« Reply #28 on: December 08, 2013, 11:40:23 AM »
Get some Nizarol shampoo dude. Helps to reduce DHT in the scalp.

I always find it funny when ppl say this when in fact there is not one single study much less proof that the chemical composition of ketoconazole inhibits dht. Zero.

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Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
« Reply #29 on: December 08, 2013, 11:43:42 AM »
No cure for baldness never will be, just stay off heme-iron. Beaverton's dont have this problem west cost.

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Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
« Reply #30 on: December 08, 2013, 11:44:19 AM »
I always find it funny when ppl say this when in fact there is not one single study much less proof that the chemical composition of ketoconazole inhibits dht. Zero.
my hairloss guru says finasteride works

everything else is shit

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Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
« Reply #31 on: December 08, 2013, 12:00:01 PM »
I always find it funny when ppl say this when in fact there is not one single study much less proof that the chemical composition of ketoconazole inhibits dht. Zero.

I did find that I seemed to lose less hair when I used Nizoral during a cycle.  No way i could prove it was the nizoral, but I lost much more hair on my cycle before i added nizoral.  Again, not saying it is fact, just anecdotal evidence.  Seems a lot of science starts that way... 

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Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
« Reply #32 on: December 08, 2013, 12:25:58 PM »
I did find that I seemed to lose less hair when I used Nizoral during a cycle.  No way i could prove it was the nizoral, but I lost much more hair on my cycle before i added nizoral.  Again, not saying it is fact, just anecdotal evidence.  Seems a lot of science starts that way... 

Its good at reducing excess sebum which is more likely when using steroids. It's an antifungal and if hairloss is occuring from that it will will help but I don't recall if it has dht inhibiting effects...
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Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
« Reply #33 on: December 08, 2013, 12:26:31 PM »
jesus fucking christ you're like a broken record

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Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
« Reply #34 on: December 08, 2013, 12:27:10 PM »
Going off of nothing. Hope you don't crash.  

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Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
« Reply #35 on: December 08, 2013, 12:32:33 PM »
5% minoxidil is no bullshit.

dht will not be an issue with deca....minox has benefits don't rule it out.

It inhibits collagen synthesis... your face gets all wrinkly and you'll get bags under your eyes

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Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
« Reply #36 on: December 08, 2013, 12:33:15 PM »
Hair loss is all genetic. Ask Ferrigno, Yates, et al. No sense in worrying about it.
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Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
« Reply #37 on: December 08, 2013, 01:16:35 PM »
what is the purpose of the 2 months off?

why don't you try 6-8 weeks on and 4-6 weeks off? only use long esters for this as they will taper down in the weeks off so you don't crash. i like doing this because i get sick of pinning after a while. also you don't lose any visible muscle for the 1st month off.

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Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
« Reply #38 on: December 08, 2013, 02:00:49 PM »
It inhibits collagen synthesis... your face gets all wrinkly and you'll get bags under your eyes

And deca increases collagen synthesis...problem solved  :D

But really, I didn't notice any problems with it when I used it. Same with finasteride...
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Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
« Reply #39 on: December 08, 2013, 02:02:55 PM »
what is the purpose of the 2 months off?

why don't you try 6-8 weeks on and 4-6 weeks off? only use long esters for this as they will taper down in the weeks off so you don't crash. i like doing this because i get sick of pinning after a while. also you don't lose any visible muscle for the 1st month off.

Sensible idea actually. I do find steroids mentally addictive but then I have an addictive personality. I can't drink anymore because I just can't drink sensibly. Everytime I have cycled off roids I have had to replace them with weed or go on holiday or do some sh!t to completely take my mind off them.

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Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
« Reply #40 on: December 08, 2013, 04:51:44 PM »
That didn't take long.

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Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
« Reply #41 on: December 08, 2013, 04:56:40 PM »
LOL. Horrible. 5 weeks is almost as good, right?
first few weeks off will look the very best ever.

and then, boom, ineviatably towards skinnyfat, bit worse than before the cycle, bc test levels are entiraly shot.natty atleast have some test, and the athlete who goes off will be dominated by female hormones for a while.

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Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
« Reply #42 on: December 08, 2013, 05:00:35 PM »
On a serious note if you do actually want to go off completely here's some advice. Take HCG, proviron (although not hair friendly), keeping training hard, use creatine, don't weigh yourself and find something to occupy your mind. Those 60 days will fly by and you can start up again with freshly gleaming receptors  :)
haha we got a comedian here
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Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
« Reply #43 on: December 08, 2013, 05:13:49 PM »
haha we got a comedian here

lol I wasn't even going to respond :D
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Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
« Reply #44 on: December 08, 2013, 05:26:17 PM »
lol I wasn't even going to respond :D
lets assume he was serious,lol,he said on a serious note after all

take hcg? really? so what for exaclty? lets see some studies on this helps to revocer own test production.would be a sales hit for trt clinics,no?

proviron? yeah that will sure help to clean up the hormonal mess when one goes off.

use creatine, haha, why?whatfor?

receptor recovery?

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Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
« Reply #45 on: December 08, 2013, 05:34:45 PM »
lets assume he was serious,lol,he said on a serious note after all

take hcg? really? so what for exaclty? lets see some studies on this helps to revocer own test production.would be a sales hit for trt clinics,no?

proviron? yeah that will sure help to clean up the hormonal mess when one goes off.

use creatine, haha, why?whatfor?

receptor recovery?



You are right.  No way around the crash when you come off.  HCG is not the answer at all.  Proviron might help a little with freeing up test by inhibiting SHBG, but not anything miraculous.  No way around it , you gotta pay the piper when you come off gear.  The crash is fucking horrible which is why most never come off high doses or "blast and cruise" forever.  TRT seems to be the way to go if you have been a long time gear abuser.  Or man up and suffer tremendously through the crash and hope your genes are strong and you kick your natural production in fast.  I couldn't stand the depression and lethargy, so just stay on TRT doses when not on full-blown.  I reckon most do that. 

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Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
« Reply #46 on: December 08, 2013, 05:44:01 PM »
lets assume he was serious,lol,he said on a serious note after all

take hcg? really? so what for exaclty? lets see some studies on this helps to revocer own test production.would be a sales hit for trt clinics,no?

proviron? yeah that will sure help to clean up the hormonal mess when one goes off.

use creatine, haha, why?whatfor?

receptor recovery?



No comedian dumbass just adding my two cents. I am not saying my suggestions will restore perfect hormonal balance but they are better than doing f*ck all.

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Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
« Reply #47 on: December 08, 2013, 05:45:21 PM »
lol I wasn't even going to respond :D

Interested to hear what you would advise if my ideas are so sh!t?

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Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
« Reply #48 on: December 10, 2013, 12:55:30 PM »
i'm doing 150mg enanthate per week now for 8 weeks

wonder what to expect

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Re: i'm going off for 2 months starting today
« Reply #49 on: December 10, 2013, 01:22:32 PM »
i'm doing 150mg enanthate per week now for 8 weeks

wonder what to expect
Wtf are you doing finally bro. there is another thread which read that you are staying on
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