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Paul Grent, Luke Woody, Flex Wheels and many more....developed serious kidney issues. Some were lucky enough like paul and flex to be able to live with the problem but some not so lucky ones like luke got hit hard.
Discuss.
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Sterons
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???
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they used more than recommended on getbig tho
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Diuretics
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Diuretics
What about gal? He did nit use any.
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What about gal? He did nit use any.
i wondered the same
he only uses 250mg of HG test e
that's all
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What about gal? He did nit use any.
I think gals was more an issue of holding 4.0% for a few years straight.
Anything excessive wont be good.
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I think gals was more an issue of holding 4.0% for a few years straight.
Anything excessive wont be good.
So, how can we blame the keto diet for kidney damage?
Just curious bro.
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So, how can we blame the keto diet for kidney damage?
Just curious bro.
That's too broad of a generalization IMO.
You can eat low protein and high "healthy" fats and still be in ketosis without fuckin up your kidneys. Bu most Bodybuilders go way high on protein for traditional kero's to make up for the caloric deficit. 500g protein a day is creating a lotta work for your kidneys.
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That's too broad of a generalization IMO.
You can eat low protein and high "healthy" fats and still be in ketosis without fuckin up your kidneys. Bu most Bodybuilders go way high on protein for traditional kero's to make up for the caloric deficit. 500g protein a day is creating a lotta work for your kidneys.
500 grams? So whats considered low, a gram per lb of bodyweight?
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I think gals was more an issue of holding 4.0% for a few years straight.
Anything excessive wont be good.
Doesn't seem fair the fatso swines can be 400 lbs for 40 years and no problem but gal is shredded 3 years and blows a kidney.
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:(
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500 grams? So whats considered low, a gram per lb of bodyweight?
1g/Lb of lean mass (not body weight) is still high, that's what I run. About 200g/day. But much more conservative than most competitors I know.
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Paul Grent, Luke Woody, Flex Wheels and many more....developed serious kidney issues. Some were lucky enough like paul and flex to be able to live with the problem but some not so lucky ones like luke got hit hard.
Discuss.
not to mention the toxic liver, andres munzer's organs are said to have just melted.
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not to mention the toxic liver, andres munzer's organs are said to have just melted.
Munzer was swimming in roids. He passed away due to internal bleeding in the stomach though.
My first cycle i had bleeding in my stomach. Was lucky enough to have still gained mass.
Flex wheeler had almost collapsed on the Olympia stage. Went too far with aas or diueritics or protein....god only knows. Happenwd to see him a couple of weeks back. Dude is still swole. Hym rat swole. But with just 1 kisney. Can anyone confirm this?
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there are definitely safer, healthier hobbies in life....
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there are definitely safer, healthier hobbies in life....
like mastering an instrument
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what are you gonna teach your son, how to inject steroids , lift weights ?
...nothing?
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what are you gonna teach your son, how to inject steroids , lift weights ?
...nothing?
how to dominate other people
no need for steroid he has superior west african muscle building gene
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No one can ever say bb at the competitive national and beyond level is anything but protracted suicide. That level of drug abuse is on par with severe alcoholism. But using gear, even at huge dosages, for periods of time with breaks is not the same thing. The kidneys and liver take a beating for sure, but these organs, especially the liver, can recover. Staying on high dose all the time without breaks is crazy and no different than drinking to excess every single day. A lot of people dont even think about the kidneys. Usually you hear about liver damage from drug abuse but the kidneys take a beating and DO NOT RECOVER like the liver does. The liver has incredible regenerative capabilities. You can have 1/3 of a liver transplanted into you and it will grow to full size!! Look it up. that is what they do for liver transplants. Kidneys are more fragile but just as crucial for life.
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i think the key to bring up a child to be able to dominate other ppl
is to send them to a very strict secondary school where they stay all week and only come home on weekends
then in weekend spend a lot of time with them
during the week they are forced to study then and are cut off from the outside world
this way they are very ready for advanced education by age 18 and have only friends who are serious, not meat heads and losers
::) ::) ::) ::)
then after a masters in legitimate course ideally high level internship in leadership programs from good company or at least MBA course
then they all set to dominate meatheads and losers, get fat paycheck and nice company car
in this process they meet virtuous intelligent woman in university
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i wondered the same
he only uses 250mg of HG test e
that's all
from what I know he did keto diet for years and stays at %4-5 bf.. to much protein can cause kidney issues too.. for me anything over 300g is useless even 300g is too much imo
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i think the key to bring up a child to be able to dominate other ppl
is to send them to a very strict secondary school where they stay all week and only come home on weekends
then in weekend spend a lot of time with them
during the week they are forced to study then and are cut off from the outside world
this way they are very ready for advanced education by age 18 and have only friends who are serious, not meat heads and losers
::) ::) ::) ::)
then after a masters in legitimate course ideally high level internship in leadership programs from good company or at least MBA course
then they all set to dominate meatheads and losers, get fat paycheck and nice company car
in this process they meet virtuous intelligent woman in university
This should be printed out as a document and handed to all new parents in maternity wards upon birth of the child. Especially masculine ones.
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This should be printed out as a document and handed to all new parents in maternity wards upon birth of the child. Especially masculine ones.
the worst mistake is to let a dominant woman make school decisions
if a dad drops the ball here the kid is dead meat
destined to be dominated by others unless he has some sort of very rare self organization skills like Mathilda, but that was a children's movie not real life
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the atkins people say that it is kidney safe though... right?
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the atkins people say that it is kidney safe though... right?
science has established protein stresses the kidney
not conclusive tho as to whether how much is too much to do damage in ppl without history of kidney problems
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the worst mistake is to let a dominant woman make school decisions
if a dad drops the ball here the kid is dead meat
destined to be dominated by others unless he has some sort of very rare self organization skills like Mathilda, but that was a children's movie not real life
Oh yeah. Females and the homo teachers at school teach boys to NEVER fight for any reason. This nonsense is instilled in them at the worst time..right when they are most impressionable. A boy should be taught by a man, preferably his father, that this world is brutal and the fittest are the ones that are successful. Fighting for yourself and your family is not just important, it is REQUIRED if you want to be happy and successful. Save your love for your family and people who have earned it.
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http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/06/01/high-protein-low-carb-diet-safe-for-kidneys/
always wondered about this
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I don't know who Paul Grent is but Paul Grant died from kidney problems. He came in third in the 1975 Heavy Mr. Universe.
I think it's a couple of things. One could be high blood pressure from using steroids, high body weights and lifting heavy weights that spikes blood pressure even in normal people. Second is oil injections. The kidney can't be flooded with all that oil and not fail. Lastly is diuretics.
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the atkins people say that it is kidney safe though... right?
well, it is, as long they kidney works fine.
one rule is dont be too shredded all the time.its almost impossible to stay hdrated well at all times when so lean.
other rule, only use "safe" doses ,which is broad broad general term.bc at one side of spectrum one can still be shredded on low doses anytime, while the other side of spectrum being too fat and of too high blood pressure permanently will do the kidneys in too.
btw mine are fine, they just had bit hard time keeping up with the detoxifying process.
whats realy scary is, the bbuilders seem often to blow out both kidneys.if "just" one fails, youre still ok,can live.but they blow them both out.
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Lol dumb fuck.
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Great info Gal! I just had the worst month of my life pain wise. Kidney stones. Horrible low right back pain. I hurt every second of every day for 30 days straight. Felt like I was being stabbed in my L5 and S1 with a sword. :(
(http://www.medicalexhibits.com/obrasky/2009/09031_04X.jpg)
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(http://meded.ucsd.edu/clinicalmed/abdomen_kidneys3.jpg)
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I don't know who Paul Grent it but Paul Grant died from kidney problems. He came in third in the 1975 Heavy Mr. Universe.
I think it's a couple of things. One could be high blood pressure from using steroids, high body weights and lifting heavy weights that spikes blood pressure even in normal people. Second is oil injections. The kidney can't be flooded with all that oil and not fail. Lastly is diuretics.
We both are talking about the same Paul. Typo. :)
Great info Gal! I just had the worst month of my life pain wise. Kidney stones. Horrible low right back pain. I hurt every second of every day for 30 days straight. Felt like I was being stabbed in my L5 and S1 with a sword. :(
(http://www.medicalexhibits.com/obrasky/2009/09031_04X.jpg)
So what treatment/detox herbal you went for bro??
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hm is that the location?
i wouldve thought its bit lower down and more to the sides
Lol dumb fuck.
hey mongoloid.miscarriage.ch ild from whore mother customer.sit down in the corner and listen:
if one want to look beyond natural, gott a take the measures.
its none of your business what someone else does to their bodies.
if you dont take the measures, youre destined to forever look like shit, look no further than into the mirror for proof of that.
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see the pictures of the kidneys? my pain was far below that. right side. almost at my butt. around l5 and s1 area
so that is why I thought it was my back
but like esf, when I checked my back, it was good to go (he went to squat rack and blasted legs)... and you wait for your back to blow out... but hey, you are fucking good to go... no way you can squat with a bad back... you will be stopped in your fucking tracks... then you are in bed and you feel like you have to take a piss, but you can tell that it is going to burn... and then you finally go and piss, and it really burns...
to me, the kidney stones were more about the back pain they caused though, and not so much the piss hurting...
after all of those tests in the hospital, they said that I must have passed them, because I had none left and that my kidneys looked great...
but jesus, did I feel horrible for 30 days straight... I hurt every second of every day... and I have blown out both knees, etc... so I know pain all too well... nothing hurt like this... I wanted to cry and not move or breathe... then when I felt like I had to vomit, I had a fever of 104, then I got the chills, I felt sea sick, etc I knew it had to be the organs and not just low right back pain... my body was screaming at me and trying to tell me that I was ill... I refused to take pain meds because I wanted to know that I was in pain and whether I was getting better, staying the same, or getting worse...
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How is your health now, bro??
:) ::)
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see the pictures of the kidneys? my pain was far below that. right side. almost at my butt. around l5 and s1 area
so that is why I thought it was my back
but like esf, when I checked my back it was good to go (he went to squat rack and blasted legs)... and you wait for your back to blow out... but hey, you are fucking good to go... no way you can squat with a bad back... you will be stopped in your fucking tracks... then you are in bed and you feel like you have to take a piss, but you can tell that it is going to burn... and then you finally go and piss, and it really burns...
to me, the kidney stones were more about the back pain they caused though, and not so much the piss hurting...
after all of those tests in the hospital, they said that I must have passed them, because I had none left and that my kidneys looked great...
but jesus, did I feel horrible for 30 days straight... I hurt every second of every day... and I have blown out both knees, etc... so I know pain all too well... nothing hurt like this... I wanted to cry and not move or breathe... then when I felt like I had to vomit, I had a fever of 104, then I got the chills, I felt sea sick, etc I knew it had to be the organs and not just low right back pain... my body was screaming at me and trying to tell me that I was ill... I refused to take pain meds because I wanted to know that I was in pain and whether I was getting better, staying the same, or getting worse...
did you have foaming peepee?i meant eh piss itself.
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did you have foaming peepee?i meant eh piss itself.
gal, what the fuck is foaming peepee???
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see the pictures of the kidneys? my pain was far below that. right side. almost at my butt. around l5 and s1 area
so that is why I thought it was my back
but like esf, when I checked my back it was good to go (he went to squat rack and blasted legs)... and you wait for your back to blow out... but hey, you are fucking good to go... no way you can squat with a bad back... you will be stopped in your fucking tracks... then you are in bed and you feel like you have to take a piss, but you can tell that it is going to burn... and then you finally go and piss, and it really burns...
to me, the kidney stones were more about the back pain they caused though, and not so much the piss hurting...
after all of those tests in the hospital, they said that I must have passed them, because I had none left and that my kidneys looked great...
but jesus, did I feel horrible for 30 days straight... I hurt every second of every day... and I have blown out both knees, etc... so I know pain all too well... nothing hurt like this... I wanted to cry and not move or breathe... then when I felt like I had to vomit, I had a fever of 104, then I got the chills, I felt sea sick, etc I knew it had to be the organs and not just low right back pain... my body was screaming at me and trying to tell me that I was ill... I refused to take pain meds because I wanted to know that I was in pain and whether I was getting better, staying the same, or getting worse...
Sorry to hear about this. I hope you are doing well. I hear about kidney stones all the time, I hope I never have to encounter them...uh, what causes them?
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Low water intake ::)
...to begin with
:)
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Don long.
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gal, what the fuck is foaming peepee???
Some people with bad kidneys when they urinate their urine looks like soapy water. I'm not a doctor disclaimer.
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(http://i.imgur.com/jeeGXKH.jpg)
my horrific pain, was where the black is
I drank a lot of water, cranberry juice, pomegranate juice, in addition to anti biotics
this and time... time to rest, and time to heal...
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no... no foam... when esf said he pissed, it was dark brown... mine was never abnormal... the only sign that I got, was the horrible back pain out of no where... no trauma... no injury at all... just felt like some one stabbed me in the low right back with a sword...
ps, as I was getting better... after all of the doctor visits, hospital time, etc... I could feel my kidneys itching... my right kidney actually... like it was a scab trying to get better... very creepy to have a wound itch from the in side... no way to scratch it...
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I think gals was more an issue of holding 4.0% for a few years straight.
Anything excessive wont be good.
We need fat for our own safety. 50 grams/day protein is adequate.
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We need fat for our own safety. 50 grams/day protein is adequate.
You are one of the safest men posting on this board judging from your recent pics bro.
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You are one of the safest men posting on this board judging from your recent pics bro.
Lol
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This should be printed out as a document and handed to all new parents in maternity wards upon birth of the child. Especially masculine ones.
Masculine ones? Like a masculine girl?
I'll bet you put mayo on your hot dogs.
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You are one of the safest men posting on this board judging from your recent pics bro.
Finally, something amusing from you.
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Grant
(http://cache4.asset-cache.net/gc/144568269-bodybuilder-paul-grant-poses-before-for-the-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=Z0zsWpN2ukUDXYqF4boPJT8ftXuwUsZVJ89yDqRdK%2b0ikOeiJkIW%2fLbJSBgLQOGKruuF4QrNcH7xf09%2fiPDFDA%3d%3d)
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Masculine ones? Like a masculine girl?
I'll bet you put mayo on your hot dogs.
Dude, watch the Godfather ever? Fucks sake....and no mayo, just ketchup.
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Finally, something amusing from you.
Roundhouse kick to your teeth, etc....
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:D ;D
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Finally, something amusing from you.
Why do you color posts vince basile [color] ?? [/color]
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Happy Holidays Macos!
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Dude, watch the Godfather ever? Fucks sake....and no mayo, just ketchup.
Yeah, I remember now. Godfather (first one), where Luca Brasi tells Don Corleone that he hopes the Don's daughter's child is a "masculine" child. Why not say "boy". But Brasi did seem a bit addled.
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i think the key to bring up a child to be able to dominate other ppl
is to send them to a very strict secondary school where they stay all week and only come home on weekends
then in weekend spend a lot of time with them
during the week they are forced to study then and are cut off from the outside world
this way they are very ready for advanced education by age 18 and have only friends who are serious, not meat heads and losers
::) ::) ::) ::)
then after a masters in legitimate course ideally high level internship in leadership programs from good company or at least MBA course
then they all set to dominate meatheads and losers, get fat paycheck and nice company car
in this process they meet virtuous intelligent woman in university
Should you run for office you will get my vote.
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Should you run for office you will get my vote.
just an ordinary man in persuit of big arms and a good life
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Happy Holidays Macos!
Happy holidays bruv
:)