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dont ask how i heard about this.
but this seems a good solution, imo could be bit more radical in its sideeffects(accelerating darwinism), but this should realy help
has anyone tried this?
i know one case, and that person still cant stop drinking, even though theres no "high" or being drunk nomore when on this, but still cant stop.
but helps to drink less iguess
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Ant abuse,I know I spelled it wrong. I guess it makes you sick if u drink.
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It's all between the ears. That's where addiction lies. Not until one wants to stop will it happen. I hear shick shadel has helped many solve this by accessing the part of the brain where addiction lies. Looks like their program can really help.
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I heard CBD helps with this also.
I hear going in raw appears to aid with these goals according to recent clinical trials.
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Tell me more Gal. Is this something I could slip into an alcoholics drink?
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One can always stop taking the pill, so they can get drunk....Its bullshit...
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Im pouring a drink as I read this.
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One can always stop taking the pill, so they can get drunk....Its bullshit...
ot if they had the implant chip
i meant the implant,not the tabs.
so, if an alkie wants to stop he can just go and do the start with the implant.
but they dont want, i feel now even less pitty for them and more despise them.
Tell me more Gal. Is this something I could slip into an alcoholics drink?
hm yah, but as said above thatd be just short term useful.
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if one wants to stop drinking
it's a matter of not buying booze
put up sings with your picture at every store
"do not sell alcohol to this man"
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ot if they had the implant chip
i meant the implant,not the tabs.
so, if an alkie wants to stop he can just go and do the start with the implant.
but they dont want, i feel now even less pitty for them and more despise them.
hm yah, but as said above thatd be just short term useful.
I did not know there was an implant, interesting...Thanks for sharing that...
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I wouldnt know. I don't drink :D
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It's all between the ears. That's where addiction lies. Not until one wants to stop will it happen. I hear shick shadel has helped many solve this by accessing the part of the brain where addiction lies. Looks like their program can really help.
I live righf by schick shadel... know many people that have went there.
They make you quit by making yoi get so drunk youre puking, and then pumping younfull of anabuse untill uou get so sick you never wan t to drimk again.
its psychological reversion training... your brain associates your drink/drug with beinf sick and feeling bad so you dont crave it anymorr.
for heroin they pump you full of oxycontin and then shoot you up with naloxone/narcan, instantly outting you into the worst WDs ever.
I never had the balls to try it.
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Tell me more Gal. Is this something I could slip into an alcoholics drink?
yes - if you wanted to kill them
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I live righf by schick shadel... know many people that have went there.
They make you quit by making yoi get so drunk youre puking, and then pumping younfull of anabuse untill uou get so sick you never wan t to drimk again.
its psychological reversion training... your brain associates your drink/drug with beinf sick and feeling bad so you dont crave it anymorr.
for heroin they pump you full of oxycontin and then shoot you up with naloxone/narcan, instantly outting you into the worst WDs ever.
I never had the balls to try it.
Are you sure - pumping you full of antabuse when you have a lot of booze in your system could easily be fatal.
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I used Antibuse and naltrexone (not at the same time) to help me quit drinking. My experiences:
Antibuse had no physical side effects for me because I didn't drink while I was on it. However, there are soooo many horror stories out there, I was mentally shot out BC I was afraid I was going to slip and drink or one of my asshole "friends" would slip me a mickey. The tought of me seizing up was crippling. Also I was already dealing with the mental aspects of drying out so I was a mess. Took it for about a week. Started drinking again about 2 weeks later.
Naltrexone was great for me. It took my desire for booze away. You can drink (and I did) but you don't get a buZz, so there's no point of drinking. I was a little lethargic the first week and nauseous for a few days. I took it for two months and still keDep some nearby in case I get the urge to drink. I strongly encourage you to consider this option if you're having problems. It worked wonders for me.
Any of you studs need to jaw about this feel free to PM me :)
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fuck if i was an alcoholic id straight up immediately have the implant.
how comes theres no such thing for other drugs?
i know in switzerland and russia they have some operations which make you stop even cocaine and heroin use.
not sure if you can stil release dopamine in other ways, i forgot.
but i know the russian approach for heroin has the side effect if you do heroin again, you just die.
but the addiction is gone.some swiss njunkie went to russia and thad the treatment, he never touched heroin again.
but this alcohol addiction seems fixable, this is a great first step i guess.
it has some bad sides if one drinks noentheless, all the way to heart infacrt(thats good, wipes them off the face of the earth), and no "drunk" efect.
ha if i was the government id make this mandatory ;D
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The implant is probably naltrexone. I know they do it a lot in Australia and NZ. Probably in Europe too
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Back in my drinking days,I had a doctor give me some Antabuse........when I got home,I promptly threw that shit in the toilet.
You can have severe seizures if you`re not serious about quitting.
Hitting bottom,then reaching an even lower bottom,will help a drunk to see things with more clarity......if not,he`s done for.
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fuck if i was an alcoholic id straight up immediately have the implant.
how comes theres no such thing for other drugs?
i know in switzerland and russia they have some operations which make you stop even cocaine and heroin use.
not sure if you can stil release dopamine in other ways, i forgot.
but i know the russian approach for heroin has the side effect if you do heroin again, you just die.
but the addiction is gone.some swiss njunkie went to russia and thad the treatment, he never touched heroin again.
but this alcohol addiction seems fixable, this is a great first step i guess.
it has some bad sides if one drinks noentheless, all the way to heart infacrt(thats good, wipes them off the face of the earth), and no "drunk" efect.
ha if i was the government id make this mandatory ;D
Have you heard of the pill Danny Bonaduce is referencing in this clip?
"If I take a drink after swallowing this pill I'll die, quit your whining"
Btw, anytime someone can crowbar Bonaduce into a topic you go ahead and do it :) 8)
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dont ask how i heard about this.
but this seems a good solution, imo could be bit more radical in its sideeffects(accelerating darwinism), but this should realy help
has anyone tried this?
i know one case, and that person still cant stop drinking, even though theres no "high" or being drunk nomore when on this, but still cant stop.
but helps to drink less iguess
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First you, Tovarich COMRADE...
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The implant is probably naltrexone. I know they do it a lot in Australia and NZ. Probably in Europe too
yeah it goes under different names but the disulfirame is the ingredient i think.
Back in my drinking days,I had a doctor give me some Antabuse........when I got home,I promptly threw that shit in the toilet.
You can have severe seizures if you`re not serious about quitting.
Hitting bottom,then reaching an even lower bottom,will help a drunk to see things with more clarity......if not,he`s done for.
theres ppl who try the same with coke., "one more time pedal to the metal and then quit",often fails ofcourse, i think it must be something very dramatic happening in order to stop.
but when an addict has given up on himself in the inside, when dont care about the world anymore, when they let go entirely, then theres no help nomore.
the addiction then becomes coupled to a depression state when sober.thats the moment where one is throughoutly fucked.
when even during bad withdrawals and suffering from previous consumption,cant wait for the next shot-sip,smoke-whatever.
tommywish bone some other day said neever trust someone who never drinks, and others quoted similiar saying, well i say fuck that and fuck the people who drag and invite others into drinking.
someppl dont have self limitations on many substances and have poor pr no control over themselves and are best off never even coming close to anything.
this bullshit about dont trust blabla.who cares if one wants to drink,let them, if one doesnt want, let them be.
me i just dont like alc, niether the taste, nor the effects of slightly drunk, nor fully drunki, i dont need this to feel relaxe and open up to people,im crazy enough without it.theres ppl who simply dont like alc at all.
all those sayings and quotes coming from drunks,i say fuck those quotes.
just bc i dont drink doesnt mean i dont do other unhealthy things.i smoke ciggs,thats bad enough.injeted enough steroids in my life to raise a racehorse farm, thats bad enough too.
"lets have a social drink" really?
lets do away with boundaroes, lets have a social 1 gramm of cocaine, bro.
i really really disliked that quote annbput not trusting a man who never drinks.for so many reasons.
cheers wes, i can tell you been there and glad you made it out of he misery.isnt it like a new gifted life
Have you heard of the pill Danny Bonaduce is referencing in this clip?
"If I take a drink after swallowing this pill I'll die, quit your whining"
Btw, anytime someone can crowbar Bonaduce into a topic you go ahead and do it :) 8)
yah its gonna be something similiar or the same like in the title.
it can actualy kill you,is listed as official side effect,if you drink nonetheless.
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First you, Tovarich COMRADE...
i dont get it, i dont drink.only when social pressure is built up too much i have a little bit to satisfy the mongoloids.i guess it makes them feel better about themselves"im not the only one doing this"
you can bet if i was alcoholic, id have the chip on the same day.
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Are you sure - pumping you full of antabuse when you have a lot of booze in your system could easily be fatal.
100 percent. Its very well regulated... they feed you an exact amount of booze and then an exact amount of anabuse designed to make you horribly sick without getting into trouble.
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Thanks Gal,very good posts as usual,and yes,I feel awesome,like I got a new lease on life,which in essence,I actually did.
What you said about the addict or drunk completely giving up on himself is very true....been there,done that,but deep inside,I always knew I was a terrible drunk and drug user.........really out of control most of the time,and that I had more potential to do so much better in life.
Sounds corny I know,but training,which has always been a part of my life,truly helped me to stay on the straight and narrow as it was a healthy goal orientated endeavor which is what I needed most to get out of the rut I was in.
Another thing that helped was realizing that the only difference between the rut I was in and the grave I would potentially be in,was only just a matter of a few feet. ;)
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I would like to know why Galeniko hates Alcoholics so much? He clearly thinks they are the scum of the earth. Why do you put alcoholics above all other addicts?
Do you not also partake in alcohol consumption Galeniko?
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Good to see you pulled out of the darkness, Wes.
Not many do. Society works against staying alcohol
free.
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Thanks bud,these days,I very seldom even think about taking a drink.
All the best. ;)
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100 percent. Its very well regulated... they feed you an exact amount of booze and then an exact amount of anabuse designed to make you horribly sick without getting into trouble.
Sounds like A Clockwork Orange.
Takes away free will.
I think you need true will to beat addiction, if not, nature wins.
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Thanks Gal,very good posts as usual,and yes,I feel awesome,like I got a new lease on life,which in essence,I actually did.
What you said about the addict or drunk completely giving up on himself is very true....been there,done that,but deep inside,I always knew I was a terrible drunk and drug user.........really out of control most of the time,and that I had more potential to do so much better in life.
Sounds corny I know,but training,which has always been a part of my life,truly helped me to stay on the straight and narrow as it was a healthy goal orientated endeavor which is what I needed most to get out of the rut I was in.
Another thing that helped was realizing that the only difference between the rut I was in and the grave I would potentially be in,was only just a matter of a few feet. ;)
Good post right there^.
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Thanks Gal,very good posts as usual,and yes,I feel awesome,like I got a new lease on life,which in essence,I actually did.
What you said about the addict or drunk completely giving up on himself is very true....been there,done that,but deep inside,I always knew I was a terrible drunk and drug user.........really out of control most of the time,and that I had more potential to do so much better in life.
Sounds corny I know,but training,which has always been a part of my life,truly helped me to stay on the straight and narrow as it was a healthy goal orientated endeavor which is what I needed most to get out of the rut I was in.
Another thing that helped was realizing that the only difference between the rut I was in and the grave I would potentially be in,was only just a matter of a few feet. ;)
yah brother, exactly, the most dangerous thing is alc is affordable, if one has the little bit money for alc and has given up on the inside and no outlook for other hooby as replacement,they really are done,the only thing thatll stop it will be a prison term(dont happen, alcoholics got no balls to do a crime bad enough most of the time)or suden death, cirhossis, something liek that.
theres been many ppl i seen over the decades, where i could predict this wont end well, and in every single case it didnt end well.they all are either liver cirhossis, run donwn helth to shit, or on the best way to do so and still drunk every single day, imagine this, every single day the goal being just drunk to "shut down".this cant be the purpose of life.
no 1 time lets enjoy sunny weather and have a walk, all living every day seeking the next drunk-high.
some ppl feel like shit the day after drinking and then leave it for a while for good.
it runs one down slowly and consstently, self worth goes to shit, dont wash and shave as frequent etcetc.and suddenly youre old and have ruined the body and the life.
in contrast, heroin addicts are in govt programmes and more stable, at least over here.
cocaine addicts often simply stop when they run out of funds.or end up in prison bc they tried to get money for the habbit by crime(they have the "balls"or rather desperation and then do stupid things and boom, prison time,lol).
now i hear meth addicts are worse,but we dont have them ocver here, the white trash drug addicts is very rare here, its the amphetamine heads, every rare, ppl here use coce bc they feel so upper clas,thing to do blabla.
I would like to know why Galeniko hates Alcoholics so much? He clearly thinks they are the scum of the earth. Why do you put alcoholics above all other addicts?
Do you not also partake in alcohol consumption Galeniko?
see above, i also adressed my own consumption,which is extreme rare and bare minimum.
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wisdom from galeniko
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fuck if i was an alcoholic id straight up immediately have the implant.
how comes theres no such thing for other drugs?
i know in switzerland and russia they have some operations which make you stop even cocaine and heroin use.
not sure if you can stil release dopamine in other ways, i forgot.
but i know the russian approach for heroin has the side effect if you do heroin again, you just die.
but the addiction is gone.some swiss njunkie went to russia and thad the treatment, he never touched heroin again.
but this alcohol addiction seems fixable, this is a great first step i guess.
it has some bad sides if one drinks noentheless, all the way to heart infacrt(thats good, wipes them off the face of the earth), and no "drunk" efect.
ha if i was the government id make this mandatory ;D
Bro, there are several dopamine agonists that Bodybuilders use.
Anti-Parkinsons medications such as Pramiprexol
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here are several dopamine agonists that Bodybuilders use.
Anti-Parkinsons medications such as Pramiprexol
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Pramipexole (Mirapex, Mirapexin, Sifrol, etc)
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Thanks bud,these days,I very seldom even think about taking a drink.
All the best. ;)
So Wes.....were you an alcoholic?
Did you actually hit what you considered "rock bottom" before you decided on a change?
This question goes to any alcoholics posting in this thread.
As some of you know I just very recently experienced my first real intimate interaction with an alcoholic and it has been a completely devastating experience. I really want to help him but I don't know how.
I've been completely ignoring him because I just don't know what to do. And I miss him like fucking hell and feel bad but I don't know any other ways to deal with him. :'(
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So Wes.....were you an alcoholic?
Did you actually hit what you considered "rock bottom" before you decided on a change?
This question goes to any alcoholics posting in this thread.
As some of you know I just very recently experienced my first real intimate interaction with an alcoholic and it has been a completely devastating experience. I really want to help him but I don't know how.
I've been completely ignoring him because I just don't know what to do. And I miss him like fucking hell and feel bad but I don't know any other ways to deal with him. :'(
Rock bottom is differetn from person to person.
Basically, it's as low as a persons morals and values will let them sink before they say "Alright, ive had enough".
For some, it's sucking dick for a fix. For me, it was hurting my family members with lies and generally shit behavior... (disappearing for weeks, not calling, swearing at my mother and father). Thats where I drew the line. I never stole, I never hurt anyone... I pawned the shit outta my own stuff and wracked up debt, but that was it.
I basically would go until I couldn't go anymore financially, then I'd dig myself out of the hole, and start all over again... eventually, my parents started getting sick from worry... and when my father passed out at work from stress... That was it for me.
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As cruel as this sounds I WANT my alcoholic to hit rock bottom.
I WANT him to lose his job, the support of his family, everything he cares about.
I believe it's the only way he'll get better.
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So Wes.....were you an alcoholic?
Did you actually hit what you considered "rock bottom" before you decided on a change?
This question goes to any alcoholics posting in this thread.
As some of you know I just very recently experienced my first real intimate interaction with an alcoholic and it has been a completely devastating experience. I really want to help him but I don't know how.
I've been completely ignoring him because I just don't know what to do. And I miss him like fucking hell and feel bad but I don't know any other ways to deal with him. :'(
Oh yeah...serious drunk,but have been recovered for many years now.
I hit rock bottom many times,as I had periods of sobriety in between each period.
When I picked up again after a time,I would hit bottom and it would be worse than the low point I hit the previous time.
One time in a bar,I had one of my many moments of clarity when I heard 3 raggedy ass crack heads who looked like they`d kill you for a nickel talk about what a mess I was.
These are guys that I would have normally considered dogshit on the bottom of my shoe.
I quit a million times for various lengths of time,but I never stopped trying until I finally got it right.
I grew up in the streets so I always had a crazy life and did crazy stuff,but these days thinking back on some of the shit I did while fucked up scares even me. ;)
Anyway,like Gal said,it`s good to have another avenue,pastime,or hobby,to fall back on as idle hands.....you know the rest,but bottom line is,you have to really want to quit and you have to be sick and tired,of being sick and tired.
You are doing the right thing by avoiding your friend..........it won`t ever work out as long as he is still drinking.
Good luck with him...........offer him help,but don`t become an enabler.
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Rock bottom is differetn from person to person.
Basically, it's as low as a persons morals and values will let them sink before they say "Alright, ive had enough".
For some, it's sucking dick for a fix. For me, it was hurting my family members with lies and generally shit behavior... (disappearing for weeks, not calling, swearing at my mother and father). Thats where I drew the line. I never stole, I never hurt anyone... I pawned the shit outta my own stuff and wracked up debt, but that was it.
I basically would go until I couldn't go anymore financially, then I'd dig myself out of the hole, and start all over again... eventually, my parents started getting sick from worry... and when my father passed out at work from stress... That was it for me.
Damn bro
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Rock bottom is differetn from person to person.
Basically, it's as low as a persons morals and values will let them sink before they say "Alright, ive had enough".
For some, it's sucking dick for a fix. For me, it was hurting my family members with lies and generally shit behavior... (disappearing for weeks, not calling, swearing at my mother and father). Thats where I drew the line. I never stole, I never hurt anyone... I pawned the shit outta my own stuff and wracked up debt, but that was it.
I basically would go until I couldn't go anymore financially, then I'd dig myself out of the hole, and start all over again... eventually, my parents started getting sick from worry... and when my father passed out at work from stress... That was it for me.
Good post brother...glad you`re clean and sober.
Addiction makes you do crazy stuff,usually to people you love or care about.
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Wow Wes/Shockwave.
Thanks for sharing such intimate experiences. :(
Alcoholism is hard for me to understand because my body has never craved alcohol.
I've never been able to drink that much before my body will reject it. After two to three drinks I have a good buzz. 6 to 8 and I'm good and drunk....anymore and I will expel it instead of being able to drink anymore.
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I would like to know why Galeniko hates Alcoholics so much? He clearly thinks they are the scum of the earth. Why do you put alcoholics above all other addicts?
Do you not also partake in alcohol consumption Galeniko?
Drinking alcohol is an expected social behavior. The common belief is that everyone can get shitfaced on the weekends, and not have negative effects, such as on family or work. But for many, that is not the case.
I come from a long line of alcoholics on both maternal and paternal sides. It was easy to hate alcoholics while growing up, as the ones I knew all used the same tactic of blaming everyone but themselves for their failings in life.
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Wow Wes/Shockwave.
Thanks for sharing such intimate experiences. :(
Alcoholism is hard for me to understand because my body has never craved alcohol.
I've never been able to drink that much before my body will reject it. After two to three drinks I have a good buzz. 6 to 8 and I'm good and drunk....anymore and I will expel it instead of being able to drink anymore.
This is a good thing ^^^. :)
You`re welcome.
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Drinking alcohol is an expected social behavior. The common belief is that everyone can get shitfaced on the weekends, and not have negative effects, such as on family or work. But for many, that is not the case.
I come from a long line of alcoholics on both maternal and paternal sides. It was easy to hate alcoholics while growing up, as the ones I knew all used the same tactic of blaming everyone but themselves for their failings in life.
I was never one to blame others,though there were lots of circumstances that helped me along the road to becoming an alcoholic,but no one made me pick up the bottle.
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Drugs and alcohol have always been there when I needed them...I refuse to speak ill of any of my old friends.
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This is a good thing ^^^. :)
You`re welcome.
You're absolutely right. It IS good thing.
Saves my liver, saves my sanity, saves me money. Prevents people from taking any type of advantage of me as well.
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Rock bottom is differetn from person to person.
Basically, it's as low as a persons morals and values will let them sink before they say "Alright, ive had enough".
For some, it's sucking dick for a fix. For me, it was hurting my family members with lies and generally shit behavior... (disappearing for weeks, not calling, swearing at my mother and father). Thats where I drew the line. I never stole, I never hurt anyone... I pawned the shit outta my own stuff and wracked up debt, but that was it.
I basically would go until I couldn't go anymore financially, then I'd dig myself out of the hole, and start all over again... eventually, my parents started getting sick from worry... and when my father passed out at work from stress... That was it for me.
Amazing story.
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Drugs and alcohol have always been there when I needed them...I refuse to speak ill of any of my old friends.
True the other mofos left went elsewhere.
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Drugs and alcohol have always been there when I needed them...I refuse to speak ill of any of my old friends.
Finally, a man of principle.
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You're absolutely right. It IS good thing.
Saves my liver, saves my sanity, saves me money. Prevents people from taking any type of advantage of me as well.
All plusses !! ;)
I have yet to see anything good come out of drinking to excess whether it be a rare occurrence,or an occupation like it was in my case................I put in way too much overtime! ;D
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Drugs and alcohol have always been there when I needed them...I refuse to speak ill of any of my old friends.
;D
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I figure if you have not gone to your mailbox in 3 weeks you dont give a fuck.
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I figure if you have not gone to your mailbox in 3 weeks you dont give a fuck.
Just watched an old Sugar Ray Leonard fight......bad mofo he was.
Having another cup of coffee now,typing to you.
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Drinking alcohol is an expected social behavior. The common belief is that everyone can get shitfaced on the weekends, and not have negative effects, such as on family or work. But for many, that is not the case.
I come from a long line of alcoholics on both maternal and paternal sides. It was easy to hate alcoholics while growing up, as the ones I knew all used the same tactic of blaming everyone but themselves for their failings in life.
its a bit the same way like when in chokoloate ads a topmodel with sixpack or topmodel famelae weighing 100lbs soaking wet and icluding her fake tits weight into the weight, they eat a little bit chocolate and then stop.
the reality is, this bit chocolate triggers and epic binge in most people.
cocaine is also accepted behavior between cocaine buddies.
very good post btw.
when the drinkers say comeon have one drink.wh the fuck would i have a drink if i dont like it.
this is the blueprint to many addict stories and how it started, group pressure on a weak and lost individual.
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Just watched an old Sugar Ray Leonard fight......bad mofo he was.
Having another cup of coffee now,typing to you.
Sugar Ray was a bad mofo the Duran fights golden.
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Oh hell yeah bud..............Hagler took him lghtly thinking he was just a primadonna and got his ass handed to him.
Right now,I`m watching Ray Mancini versus Hector Camacho............getti ng hooked on these old fights.
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Oh hell yeah bud..............Hagler took him lghtly thinking he was just a primadonna and got his ass handed to him.
Right now,I`m watching Ray Mancini versus Hector Camacho............getti ng hooked on these old fights.
Ali vs Frazier some of the best. Oh and dont forget Tyson.
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Whenever you think about quitting drinking, just remember why you started.
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Whenever you think about quitting drinking, just remember why you started.
ASSHOLE!!!!! lol
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About a month ago I made a decision to give up booze. (The only drug I did, I don't do weed, roids, or anything else).
However, I have a tolerance and could split a fifth of tequila, and drink a 6 pack or more, be up at 4 AM the next day, and in the gym by 6:30 AM).
Cant be good for the internal organs though.
It's been fun, going to these holiday parties, drinking coffee and ginger ale, and watching everyone else act foolish.
Plus the drive home was great, not having to worry about putting others or myself in danger.
I did my time, 30+ years of drinking booze, just don't want to do it any more, used to do it to "de-stress". Ha, it only made things worse.
Feeling F-In fantastic!
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About a month ago I made a decision to give up booze. (The only drug I did, I don't do weed, roids, or anything else).
However, I have a tolerance and could split a fifth of tequila, and drink a 6 pack or more, be up at 4 AM the next day, and in the gym by 6:30 AM).
Cant be good for the internal organs though.
It's been fun, going to these holiday parties, drinking coffee and ginger ale, and watching everyone else act foolish.
Plus the drive home was great, not having to worry about putting others or myself in danger.
I did my time, 30+ years of drinking booze, just don't want to do it any more, used to do it to "de-stress". Ha, it only made things worse.
Feeling F-In fantastic!
Good for you man,it`a win win situation........congrat s.
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Since alcohol is our no.1 date rape drug, slippin this into drinks (if it works that fast) when a girl start to notice bad signs would be a great tool, take some yourself...keep drinking and get the hell out when he passes out! I got help to stop drink with xanax...alot of alcoholism is often a sign of anxiety disorder. Don't do both though if you really want help!
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About a month ago I made a decision to give up booze. (The only drug I did, I don't do weed, roids, or anything else).
However, I have a tolerance and could split a fifth of tequila, and drink a 6 pack or more, be up at 4 AM the next day, and in the gym by 6:30 AM).
Cant be good for the internal organs though.
It's been fun, going to these holiday parties, drinking coffee and ginger ale, and watching everyone else act foolish.
Plus the drive home was great, not having to worry about putting others or myself in danger.
I did my time, 30+ years of drinking booze, just don't want to do it any more, used to do it to "de-stress". Ha, it only made things worse.
Feeling F-In fantastic!
congrats,much respect,truly happy for you.
none of the i found god bs, plain willpower.
welcome to a new life.
isnt it nice to wake up on a sunny day and be happy about the weather, something that goes to wasdte-unnoticd while being an addict.
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I'm drying out again after another relationship gone bad. This girl really loves me and I can't handle being with her. When shit gets hard I run to drink. Fucked me up so much I had to leave her cuz she has kids and they can't see me leaving for days then coming back every few weeks. It's a fucked up vicous cycle and it's killing all my gains as well. Whats the point of a good body if you can't even use it.
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Took 2 sips of my Bud Light tallboy then poured the rest down the sink.
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I'm drying out again after another relationship gone bad. This girl really loves me and I can't handle being with her. When shit gets hard I run to drink. Fucked me up so much I had to leave her cuz she has kids and they can't see me leaving for days then coming back every few weeks. It's a fucked up vicous cycle and it's killing all my gains as well. Whats the point of a good body if you can't even use it.
why dont you release the steam in the gym instead of sipping poison into yourself?
result is you look better and get another girl, this is the best cure for past relationships meltdowns
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why dont you release the steam in the gym instead of sipping poison into yourself?
result is you look better and get another girl, this is the best cure for past relationships meltdowns
Best advice you can give someone on this. Hanging up a punching bag
is also helpful. Working out fights depression as well. During the low points in my life, the gym was always there.
Fall 1986 would be the perfect example of that for me. I was homeless for the most part, and sleeping on a rotted couch in a condemned building. The only job I could find was digging out broken sewer lines with a shovel for little money so I could eat. I took the bus to the gym so I could shower and still work out.
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Best advice you can give someone on this. Hanging up a punching bag
is also helpful. Working out fights depression as well. During the low points in my life, the gym was always there.
Fall 1986 would be the perfect example of that for me. I was homeless for the most part, and sleeping on a rotted couch in a condemned building. The only job I could find was digging out broken sewer lines with a shovel for little money so I could eat. I took the bus to the gym so I could shower and still work out.
Damn
How did you end up in this situation bro?
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Best advice you can give someone on this. Hanging up a punching bag
is also helpful. Working out fights depression as well. During the low points in my life, the gym was always there.
Fall 1986 would be the perfect example of that for me. I was homeless for the most part, and sleeping on a rotted couch in a condemned building. The only job I could find was digging out broken sewer lines with a shovel for little money so I could eat. I took the bus to the gym so I could shower and still work out.
have seen similiar times, after this you never wanna go back there, im glad you made it out, i dont know you and all, but this is always great to hear.
happy new year 8)
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Damn
How did you end up in this situation bro?
Life was great the Summer of '86. I went on a 2,000 mile trip to see family, and I thought everything was fine upon returning home. The landlord's daughter went psycho on me one night, and I got kicked out of where I was living. Thankfully, her sister was home, and was a witness for me to keep me out of jail. My roomate's girlfriend borrowed my car while I was on vacation, and blew the engine. I had little money, after spending it on my travels. My boss didn't like excuses for not being to work on time, so I was fired.
I had nowhere to go, so I called my "friend", who owned a plumbing business. I slept on the couch in his warehouse, and worked for him digging sewer lines. The job outlook was bad, so I was simply in a holding pattern for a few months. No one from my social circle wanted to be acquainted with me, as most of the guys I hung out came from money, or simply didn't want to deal with it. So, I minded my own business, accepted life for what it was, and carried on. Being in the gym was a big part of being able to keep my sanity.
That December, I got a job on a construction crew in the next state. I spent the next 6 months reorganizing, and having fun like a 21 year old should. I learned a lot from that event, and don't regret it. I should have had an emergency fund, especially without a family to lean on, but I came out fine.
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Life was great the Summer of '86. I went on a 2,000 mile trip to see family, and I thought everything was fine upon returning home. The landlord's daughter went psycho on me one night, and I got kicked out of where I was living. Thankfully, her sister was home, and was a witness for me to keep me out of jail. My roomate's girlfriend borrowed my car while I was on vacation, and blew the engine. I had little money, after spending it on my travels. My boss didn't like excuses for not being to work on time, so I was fired.
I had nowhere to go, so I called my "friend", who owned a plumbing business. I slept on the couch in his warehouse, and worked for him digging sewer lines. The job outlook was bad, so I was simply in a holding pattern for a few months. No one from my social circle wanted to be acquainted with me, as most of the guys I hung out came from money, or simply didn't want to deal with it. So, I minded my own business, accepted life for what it was, and carried on. Being in the gym was a big part of being able to keep my sanity.
That December, I got a job on a construction crew in the next state. I spent the next 6 months reorganizing, and having fun like a 21 year old should. I learned a lot from that event, and don't regret it. I should have had an emergency fund, especially without a family to lean on, but I came out fine.
Great friends you had.......fucking losers!! >:(
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Life was great the Summer of '86. I went on a 2,000 mile trip to see family, and I thought everything was fine upon returning home. The landlord's daughter went psycho on me one night, and I got kicked out of where I was living. Thankfully, her sister was home, and was a witness for me to keep me out of jail. My roomate's girlfriend borrowed my car while I was on vacation, and blew the engine. I had little money, after spending it on my travels. My boss didn't like excuses for not being to work on time, so I was fired.
I had nowhere to go, so I called my "friend", who owned a plumbing business. I slept on the couch in his warehouse, and worked for him digging sewer lines. The job outlook was bad, so I was simply in a holding pattern for a few months. No one from my social circle wanted to be acquainted with me, as most of the guys I hung out came from money, or simply didn't want to deal with it. So, I minded my own business, accepted life for what it was, and carried on. Being in the gym was a big part of being able to keep my sanity.
That December, I got a job on a construction crew in the next state. I spent the next 6 months reorganizing, and having fun like a 21 year old should. I learned a lot from that event, and don't regret it. I should have had an emergency fund, especially without a family to lean on, but I came out fine.
Damn! Thats nuts
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have seen similiar times, after this you never wanna go back there, im glad you made it out, i dont know you and all, but this is always great to hear.
happy new year 8)
Happy new year's as well. Overall, it was my fault for my lack of an emergency fund, and my poor choices in friends. I have had a greater appreciation for life since then, and I have a great circle of friends today. To be honest, they are used to leaning on me, since I am the one constantly pushing them to make goals and better themselves. Most of them don't know about my challenges back then, but it's ok.
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Can some alcoholics have the occasional drink again?
Or is it all or nothing.
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Can some alcoholics have the occasional drink again?
Or is it all or nothing.
I know I tried to get a small bag of glass, say a 40, id always wind up on a week long bender and spend 250 minimum.
You cannot ever self regulate. .. you go right back to where you were at the when you put down whatever you were using.
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Can some alcoholics have the occasional drink again?
Or is it all or nothing.
As an alcoholic,if you have to control your drinking,that means it`s out of control.
Better to stay clean and sober 24/7 365.
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Can some alcoholics have the occasional drink again?
Or is it all or nothing.
better to never ever get close to drinking any alc again.
the mindset must be "i had the very last drink already and dont ever want one again"
for one who truly came off,wont be a big problem.
only those whi lie to themselves will fail.
deep inside everyone knows whether theyve stopped or not.
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better to never ever get close to drinking any alc again.
the mindset must be "i had the very last drink already and dont ever want one again"
for one who truly came off,wont be a big problem.
only those whi lie to themselves will fail.
deep inside everyone knows whether theyve stopped or not.
Good post,and very true.
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Another question for you alcoholics.......you obviously hurt people...but kept drinking.
Do you feel guilty, while under the influence, about the things you have done. Why isn't the guilt enough to stop you from drinking? It is a physical addiction?
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Another question for you alcoholics.......you obviously hurt people...but kept drinking.
Do you feel guilty, while under the influence, about the things you have done. Why isn't the guilt enough to stop you from drinking? It is a physical addiction?
nah the guilt will be very vague and never honest,untill they stop.
the worst scum walking earth are cocaine-alc combo addicts.
the highest peak on the scum ranking goes to the heroin addicts when having peak withdrawlals.
but median line avergae coke-alc are the scum of the world.
esp the ones who smoke the coke.
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Another question for you alcoholics.......you obviously hurt people...but kept drinking.
Do you feel guilty, while under the influence, about the things you have done. Why isn't the guilt enough to stop you from drinking? It is a physical addiction?
I used to feel guilty about stuff like that,but I tried to make amends to people that I knew.....most if not all,understood that it was booze and drugs that caused me to be an asshole.
I think I`m a good guy sober,at least I always try to be,but once I add alcohol,there`s no telling who or what I might transform into.
For the fuckers I hurt that I didn`t know,they shouldn`t have been on my turf at night.
Just kidding. LOL ;D
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nah the guilt will be very vague and never honest,untill they stop.
the worst scum walking earth are cocaine-alc combo addicts.
the highest peak on the scum ranking goes to the heroin addicts when having peak withdrawlals.
but median line avergae coke-alc are the scum of the world.
esp the ones who smoke the coke.
nah bro...
IV meth users are the worst. They literally lose touch with reality and will commit any horrendous act to get thwir drugs. rhey dont care.
heroin uaers during WD are up there. Cokeaholics seem mild to me compared.to the shit that IV meth users do for their drugs.
the absolute worse are the iv meth/heroin users (which is what I was, although I never was willing to do anything horrible for my fix... I just wouldnt stoop that low)
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ah ok sorry cant speak on meth users, there are none over here.
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why dont you release the steam in the gym instead of sipping poison into yourself?
result is you look better and get another girl, this is the best cure for past relationships meltdowns
I actually talked it out with her last night and we agreed on dating again a few nights a week and see where it goes. So this is my final chance with her. She grew up with alcoholic problems in her family. She's not gonna put up with it and I really care for this one, unlike my last one. But def gonna release it in the gym instead of drinking.
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Another question for you alcoholics.......you obviously hurt people...but kept drinking.
Do you feel guilty, while under the influence, about the things you have done. Why isn't the guilt enough to stop you from drinking? It is a physical addiction?
never guilty while drinking, and never guilty after. i felt they did me wrong (when they actually try to help me). then i ran to the bottle for some more liquid morale. vicious cycle and it looks absolutely ridiculous to someone sober.
a good way to scare yourself into quitting is seeing a video of yourself bombed out. holy fuck that is embarrassing and humbling.
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never guilty while drinking, and never guilty after. i felt they did me wrong (when they actually try to help me). then i ran to the bottle for some more liquid morale. vicious cycle and it looks absolutely ridiculous to someone sober.
a good way to scare yourself into quitting is seeing a video of yourself bombed out. holy fuck that is embarrassing and humbling.
So you still don't feel bad to this day, towards the ones you hurt?
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My "rock bottom" was DUI conviction. I was never a everyday drinker, just once every week or two, but I would drink too much and do stupid shit that I regretted.
I've cut down my drinking a lot since then, only had maybe 3 days this year of drinking since february. One year a couple years ago I didn't drink at all.
Having said that, I will probably be drinking tonight at a new years eve house party. And I am in Thailand in a few days so will might go nuts with the alcohol, I will try my best not to though, but it is hard with the nightlife culture there.
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So you still don't feel bad to this day, towards the ones you hurt?
During times of hardcore addiction there is no conscience.
The people that are still with you after all the fucked up shit are the only ones worth feeling sorry for. The ones that are gone weren't worth keeping around anyway.
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During times of hardcore addiction there is no conscience.
The people that are still with you after all the fucked up shit are the only ones worth feeling sorry for. The ones that are gone weren't worth keeping around anyway.
How can you say that?
If someone keeps abusing you and your generosity through your tough times should you stay? If they keep lying to you? Basically the addict is using you, taking advantage of you and using you as a punching bag (I don't necessarily mean literally).
I WANT to be there for my alcoholic but how can I? All he does is lie to me and makes me feel like complete shit. Everything he does with me is to somehow try and manipulate me into believing he is sober....yet his actions are horrific.
Explain your stance, and what would you suggest for being supportive, if only at a distance. The only way I can be supportive is at a distance.
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My "rock bottom" was DUI conviction. I was never a everyday drinker, just once every week or two, but I would drink too much and do stupid shit that I regretted.
I've cut down my drinking a lot since then, only had maybe 3 days this year of drinking since february. One year a couple years ago I didn't drink at all.
Having said that, I will probably be drinking tonight at a new years eve house party. And I am in Thailand in a few days so will might go nuts with the alcohol, I will try my best not to though, but it is hard with the nightlife culture there.
Man, your bottom needs WAY more depth, guy.
Only kidding, you wised up quick is all.
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Man, your bottom needs WAY more depth, guy.
Only kidding, you wised up quick is all.
I wised up extremely quick.
But it still hurts. :'(
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I wised up extremely quick.
But it still hurts. :'(
Are you not a drinker, BS?
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How can you say that?
If someone keeps abusing you and your generosity through your tough times should you stay? If they keep lying to you? Basically the addict is using you, taking advantage of you and using you as a punching bag (I don't necessarily mean literally).
I WANT to be there for my alcoholic but how can I? All he does is lie to me and makes me feel like complete shit. Everything he does with me is to somehow try and manipulate me into believing he is sober....yet his actions are horrific.
Explain your stance, and what would you suggest for being supportive, if only at a distance. The only way I can be supportive is at a distance.
Instead of trying to get him to stop drinking, find out the reason why he does it. Truth is he probably doesn't even remember himself.
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Are you not a drinker, BS?
I am a drinker. Not an alcoholic.
I can't drink on the days I work my job...I am in a dry camp and get drug tested regularly.
But on days off I drink...especially when dining out I like a martini or two.
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Instead of trying to get him to stop drinking find out the reason why he does it. Truth is he probably doesn't even remember himself.
I think I know why. I can't help him with it....just support him.
Fuck him for hurting me though. I mean that.
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So you still don't feel bad to this day, towards the ones you hurt?
not a single sorry is felt. for people that I cared for they all stuck around and still to this day try to help me with tough love. I guess i'm just lucky in that sense.
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not a single sorry is felt. for people that I cared for they all stuck around and still to this day try to help me with tough love. I guess i'm just lucky in that sense.
Does this include a significant other?
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Does this include a significant other?
the only one I ever really felt for, and she's we just got back together last night and going to try again.
when these people give me tough love its they won't give me rides when i'm drunk, they make me walk. won't associate with me while i'm drinking. kick me when i'm down and hungover and beat it into me how pathetic i'm being. it's made me cut down a lot and I truly want to stop for good. i'm gonna lose everything if I don't. for new years i'm gonna stay in with her and watch Pain & Gain and smoke a blunt while munching out on some steak n chicken stir fry
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Like I said earlier,in my case anyway,the people I hurt that were still around after the smoke cleared,were the people that truly gave a fuck about me, and realized that I had wronged them due simply to my alcoholism not out of malice.
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I think I know why. I can't help him with it....just support him.
Fuck him for hurting me though. I mean that.
Yeah fuck him..he's gotta stop being a little bitch.
Just keep in mind its harder to fight off help when it comes in the form of love instead of anger. (no homo)
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But on days off I drink...especially when dining out I like a martini or two.
Good times.
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the only one I ever really felt for, and she's we just got back together last night and going to try again.
when these people give me tough love its they won't give me rides when i'm drunk, they make me walk. won't associate with me while i'm drinking. kick me when i'm down and hungover and beat it into me how pathetic i'm being. it's made me cut down a lot and I truly want to stop for good. i'm gonna lose everything if I don't. for new years i'm gonna stay in with her and watch Pain & Gain and smoke a blunt while munching out on some steak n chicken stir fry
Not to be an asshole here bro,but if you really want to quit drinking,you can`t substitute one drug for another........it just doesn`t work....PERIOD.
Been there,done that.
Failed relationships were one of the biggest triggers for me to go on an insane binge,but in retrospect,I really wouldn`t want to be with anybody either if they were fucked up 24/7.......... which was usually the case for me a lot of times,and the main reason said relationships failed in the first place.
Sounds like a worn out cliche`,but one day at a time works if put into practice.
No crying about the past,no projection into the future,just live in the moment and remain steadfast in your conviction to get sober.
It only gets worse over time,never better,trust me,it`s a progressive disease of the mind moreso that the body for most people.
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You guys.....how can I be there for him without physically being around him? Is there a way?
I don't want to see him because it hurts too much. All he does is drink and acts like an idiot....and when he's sobering up he's indifferent and cruel. He has also just recently started lying to my face......that fucking hurts BUT it also pisses me off. I rarely get angry but this has done it.
So is there even a point in trying to keep this friendship/relationship going?
Is it possible he will contact me if he ever sobers up or truly cares?
I do believe in him and want to be there for him but I'm not sure how I can support him and let him know I'm supporting him. If we aren't communicating isn't that a sign we are done?
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You guys.....how can I be there for him without physically being around him? Is there a way?
I don't want to see him because it hurts too much. All he does is drink and acts like an idiot....and when he's sobering up he's indifferent and cruel. He has also just recently started lying to my face......that fucking hurts BUT it also pisses me off. I rarely get angry but this has done it.
So is there even a point in trying to keep this friendship/relationship going?
Is it possible he will contact me if he ever sobers up or truly cares?
I do believe in him and want to be there for him but I'm not sure how I can support him and let him know I'm supporting him. If we aren't communicating isn't that a sign we are done?
First rule of thumb BS,is that the drunk or addict has to want to sober up................nothin g you or anyone can do if this first step isn`t implemented.
I`d call him,try to catch him in sober moments,and simply tell him what time it is...aka,how you feel about him,and how his drinking is negatively affecting those feelings.
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Not to be an asshole here bro,but if you really want to quit drinking,you can`t substitute one drug for another........it just doesn`t work....PERIOD.
Been there,done that.
Failed relationships were one of the biggest triggers for me to go on an insane binge,but in retrospect,I really wouldn`t want to be with anybody either if they were fucked up 24/7.......... which was usually the case for me a lot of times,and the main reason said relationships failed in the first place.
Sounds like a worn out cliche`,but one day at a time works if put into practice.
No crying about the past,no projection into the future,just live in the moment and remain steadfast in your conviction to get sober.
It only gets worse over time,never better,trust me,it`s a progressive disease of the mind moreso that the body for most people.
I smoke weed at night, every night, to relax and go to sleep. I have severe sleep apnea and insomnia and my sleep clinic doctor recommended I smoke weed if I had access. I never smoke in the day. Its a nice way to relax my body. I once quit drinking on my own for 200 days but soon after had a traumatic life experience and picked the bottle back up. Wish I never had done that i'll tell you.
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You guys.....how can I be there for him without physically being around him? Is there a way?
I don't want to see him because it hurts too much. All he does is drink and acts like an idiot....and when he's sobering up he's indifferent and cruel. He has also just recently started lying to my face......that fucking hurts BUT it also pisses me off. I rarely get angry but this has done it.
So is there even a point in trying to keep this friendship/relationship going?
Is it possible he will contact me if he ever sobers up or truly cares?
I do believe in him and want to be there for him but I'm not sure how I can support him and let him know I'm supporting him. If we aren't communicating isn't that a sign we are done?
Seems there is nothing to save at this point. You know what you need to do. Good luck.
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You guys.....how can I be there for him without physically being around him? Is there a way?
I don't want to see him because it hurts too much. All he does is drink and acts like an idiot....and when he's sobering up he's indifferent and cruel. He has also just recently started lying to my face......that fucking hurts BUT it also pisses me off. I rarely get angry but this has done it.
So is there even a point in trying to keep this friendship/relationship going?
Is it possible he will contact me if he ever sobers up or truly cares?
I do believe in him and want to be there for him but I'm not sure how I can support him and let him know I'm supporting him. If we aren't communicating isn't that a sign we are done?
Are you my girlfriend? I'm exactly like your ex. He's hardcore and Wes is right, he's gotta want it for himself, and not anyone else.
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I smoke weed at night, every night, to relax and go to sleep. I have severe sleep apnea and insomnia and my sleep clinic doctor recommended I smoke weed if I had access. I never smoke in the day. Its a nice way to relax my body. I once quit drinking on my own for 200 days but soon after had a traumatic life experience and picked the bottle back up. Wish I never had done that i'll tell you.
I hear ya bud,but you have to be careful doing that.
I used to "quit" by smoking pot and/or doing valiums.....I was still altering my reality,and eventually would return to booze again.
These days I have a script for Valium.....5mgs. 3 X a day but usually only take one or two 5 mg, tabs when my anxiety is extremely bad........other than that,I rarely ever take one at all.
If I wanted to,I could do a shitload and get high,but my sobriety hinges on me staying alive.
Sounds like drama,but if I never stopped,I`d be long dead,long before now,no doubt in my mind about it.
Good luck!
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First rule of thumb BS,is that the drunk or addict has to want to sober up................nothin g you or anyone can do if this first step isn`t implemented.
I`d call him,try to catch him in sober moments,and simply tell him what time it is...aka,how you feel about him,and how his drinking is negatively affecting those feelings.
Then there isn't anything I can do.
Deep down I know he wants to...but he is embarrassed about relapsing and insists he doesn't have a problem, when he clearly fucking does.
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Thanks guys.
You can clearly tell from my posts that I want to try and hold on to this guy....but that's my heart.
Being a scientist my logic always trumps all. Logic tells me there is nothing I can do at this point, and I have to let go.
I don't want to but I have to. :-\
If he comes to me for help I will climb mountains....but until then I need to move on and not keep in touch.
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Thanks guys.
You can clearly tell from my posts that I want to try and hold on to this guy....but that's my heart.
Being a scientist my logic always trumps all. Logic tells me there is nothing I can do at this point, and I have to let go.
I don't want to but I have to. :-\
If he comes to me for help I will climb mountains....but until then I need to move on and not keep in touch.
Very wise. Sucks, but you're doing the right thing.
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Then there isn't anything I can do.
Deep down I know he wants to...but he is embarrassed about relapsing and insists he doesn't have a problem, when he clearly fucking does.
Shit,if I worried about relapses,I`d have never gotten sober.
It took me a zillion or so times to finally get it right.
Most drunks don`t like to hear this,especially if they are in denial or not yet ready to get sober,but I`d recommend AA and like I said in my previous post,you shoukld just lay your cards on the table and tell him how you feel,or not of course.
At any rate BS,good luck,I know it`s not easy putting up with an alcoholic that you care for.
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First rule of thumb BS,is that the drunk or addict has to want to sober up................nothin g you or anyone can do if this first step isn`t implemented.
I`d call him,try to catch him in sober moments,and simply tell him what time it is...aka,how you feel about him,and how his drinking is negatively affecting those feelings.
Yeah if he doesn't think he has a problem than there is nothing to fix.
In his mind bikini is the problem; you're just no fun and losing you is not a big deal.
Better for her to move on with her life at this point and find herself a getbigger like me.
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Yeah if he doesn't think he has a problem than there is nothing to fix.
In his mind bikini is the problem; you're just no fun and losing you is not a big deal.
Better for her to move on with her life at this point and find herself a getbigger like me.
Good points..............I defiiately agree.
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My best friend growing up became a heroin junkie.
When you see a person you love more than family going through dope sickness at 20 years old, you feel totally helpless.
I was always there for him, and put myself in harm's way to the max to help save my friend. I couldn't understand at such a young age that the addict has to actually want to be clean.
I had to walk away from him at one point due to the danger he was bringing on himself and everyone around him. He stole from EVERYONE (parents, grandparents, friends, doctor's offices, etc.). He just simply couldn't be trusted.
And no offense Wes, the only "friends" he had when he was near his lowest point were the ones doing the exact same shit as him. You see, he had the money, and everyone else was there for the gravy train.
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And no offense Wes, the only "friends" he had when he was near his lowest point were the ones doing the exact same shit as him. You see, he had the money, and everyone else was there for the gravy train.
Obviously those are not real friends....just equally lost human beings.
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My best friend growing up became a heroin junkie.
When you see a person you love more than family going through dope sickness at 20 years old, you feel totally helpless.
I was always there for him, and put myself in harm's way to the max to help save my friend. I couldn't understand at such a young age that the addict has to actually want to be clean.
I had to walk away from him at one point due to the danger he was bringing on himself and everyone around him. He stole from EVERYONE (parents, grandparents, friends, doctor's offices, etc.). He just simply couldn't be trusted.
And no offense Wes, the only "friends" he had when he was near his lowest point were the ones doing the exact same shit as him. You see, he had the money, and everyone else was there for the gravy train.
No offense take bro,but the main difference in his case was that he was a junkie.
An alcoholic will steal your wallet..............a junkie will steal your wallet and help you look for it.
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No offense take bro,but the main difference in his case was that he was a junkie.
An alcoholic will steal your wallet..............a junkie will steal your wallet and help you look for it.
Wow.
Why is that? Are they that desperate to convince you?
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Finally a thread where shizzo can chimme in with his expertise ;D
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Wow.
Why is that? Are they that desperate to convince you?
Junkies for some reason always want to play a victim. Some junkie fat bitch stole a syringe out of my stash (good thing she doesn't know what AAS is) and $5. I confront her on it on the phone (don't know where she lives) and she denies then goes to tell me she doesn't do needles (arms say otherwise) and that if she stole she wouldn't took more than $5 and took my $165 I had. They steal a little, in order to back to do it again.
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No offense take bro,but the main difference in his case was that he was a junkie.
An alcoholic will steal your wallet..............a junkie will steal your wallet and help you look for it.
ha! We used to say that about coke and heroin junkies vs meth junkies as well.
funny how its all relative.
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