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Title: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: The True Adonis on January 12, 2014, 04:11:45 PM
Did he not even lift?  ???
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: DanielPaul on January 12, 2014, 04:28:28 PM
Did he not even lift?  ???
good question, I have know idea
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: ESFitness on January 12, 2014, 06:07:15 PM
another clueless question regarding steroid use.

you think all you need to do is take 'roids' and you grow muscles?

fucking ignorant clown.

do you have any clue what 'roids' do? maybe you should talk less and read more.
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: 240 is Back on January 12, 2014, 06:09:19 PM
nutrient timing.  He missed his 10 minute anabolic window following workouts.
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: XFACTOR on January 12, 2014, 06:18:05 PM
Did he not even lift?  ???

Are you serious? Very stupid question dude. A quarter of a billion dollars is why he didn't  walk around looking like jay cutler
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: el numero uno on January 12, 2014, 06:31:11 PM
Are you serious? Very stupid question dude. A quarter of a billion dollars is why he didn't  walk around looking like jay cutler

Who cares about money when you don't have overdeveloped quads?  ::)
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: The Scott on January 12, 2014, 06:46:56 PM
More concerned about the circumference of his wallet than his arm?  That would be my guess.
 ;D
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: doison on January 12, 2014, 06:49:15 PM
Focused on home runs instead of thigh sweep.  I've seen it a hundred times
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: The True Adonis on January 12, 2014, 07:10:30 PM
Are you serious? Very stupid question dude. A quarter of a billion dollars is why he didn't  walk around looking like jay cutler
Really?  With the little amount of muscle he had, he could have done it naturally with just 2-3 days a week in the gym. 
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: XFACTOR on January 12, 2014, 07:16:16 PM
Really?  With the little amount of muscle he had, he could have done it naturally with just 2-3 days a week in the gym. 

You do not understand sports so it's not fair for you to comment. There is more to it than making big muscles
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: lilhawk1 on January 12, 2014, 07:17:18 PM
Really?  With the little amount of muscle he had, he could have done it naturally with just 2-3 days a week in the gym. 

Wow, you really think he trains for size?  Steroids increase power and strength obviously, which in turn improves things such as arm strength, bat speed, etc.  The things that are important in baseball.
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: DanielPaul on January 12, 2014, 07:17:53 PM
It's funny how 100,000 dollar's would make me far happier than 25,000,000 would make him.  He's a green eyed monster who has sculpted his own demise through greed.
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: The True Adonis on January 12, 2014, 07:18:44 PM
another clueless question regarding steroid use.

you think all you need to do is take 'roids' and you grow muscles?

fucking ignorant clown.

do you have any clue what 'roids' do? maybe you should talk less and read more.
::)

Taking Steroids has been proven to be more effective than training in a lot of instances.  Here is one of many studies that showed steroids and no training yielded better results than training an no steroids.

http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=16649835
http://www.ergo-log.com/trainingnosteroids.html
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: The True Adonis on January 12, 2014, 07:19:16 PM
Wow, you really think he trains for size?  Steroids increase power and strength obviously, which in turn improves things such as arm strength, bat speed, etc.  The things that are important in baseball.
Could have easily done it naturally.
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: The True Adonis on January 12, 2014, 07:20:04 PM
You do not understand sports so it's not fair for you to comment. There is more to it than making big muscles
Who said anything about big muscles?  I said he could have achieved all of the results he had naturally.  Problem is, he is a lazy fuck.
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: Earl1972 on January 12, 2014, 07:20:56 PM
he's not cut out for the sport of bodybuilding

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Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: The True Adonis on January 12, 2014, 07:24:53 PM
another clueless question regarding steroid use.

you think all you need to do is take 'roids' and you grow muscles?

fucking ignorant clown.

do you have any clue what 'roids' do? maybe you should talk less and read more.
Here is another one you mountebank.

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199607043350101

The Study

This 10 week study took a group of 43 men of normal body weight between the ages of 19 and 40 who all had some degree of weight training experience. These men were then split up into 4 different groups:

    Group 1 did NOT do any form of exercise, and did NOT receive any form of steroids or drugs. (Natural guys doing no weight training.)
    Group 2 did NOT do any form of exercise, but they received weekly injections of 600 mg of testosterone enanthate. (Drug users doing no weight training.)
    Group 3 DID exercise, but they did NOT receive any form of steroids or drugs. (Natural guys doing weight training.)
    Group 4 DID exercise, and they also received weekly injections of 600 mg of testosterone enanthate. (Drug users doing weight training.)

All of their diets (calorie intake, protein intake, nutrient intake, etc.) were standardized according to each person’s body weight, recorded, verified and adjusted when needed. The 2 groups who WERE weight training (groups 3 and 4) followed the same supervised workouts each week.

Meaning, with the exception of the fact that some groups were or were not weight training, and some were or were not using drugs… everything else (diet and training) was equal and even.
The Results

So… guess what happened?

    Group 1 (no exercise, natural) experienced no significant changes. No surprise there.
    Group 2 (no exercise, drug use) was able to build about 7 pounds of muscle. That’s not a typo. The group receiving testosterone injections and NOT working out at all gained 7 pounds of muscle.
   Group 3 (exercise, natural) was able to build about 4 pounds of muscle.
    Group 4 (exercise, drug use) was able to build about 13 pounds of muscle.

So What Does This Study Show Us?

Well, for starters, if you are natural and not doing any form of weight training, your muscle building results will suck. But we all knew that already.

Second, the muscle building effects of steroids are pretty F-ing significant. Despite using identical workout routines and diets, the guys who were also receiving testosterone injections gained over 3 TIMES as much muscle as the natural guys in the same period of time. The average difference was 13lbs gained to just 4lbs gained.

And third… here’s the most insane part of all. The group getting the testosterone injections and NOT doing any form of weight training whatsoever still gained significantly more muscle than the natural guys who WERE weight training. The difference was 7lbs gained to 4lbs gained
.


Let me repeat that again just in case it didn’t sink in. Guys using drugs and doing NOTHING built more muscle than the natural guys who were weight training 3 times per week. How crazy is that?

I know my article about how much muscle you can gain mentions steroid/drug use as one of the main factors that influence a person’s rate and limit of muscle growth, but did you think the effects would be THIS significant? No? Well… surprise! They are.
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: XFACTOR on January 12, 2014, 07:25:25 PM
Who said anything about big muscles?  I said he could have achieved all of the results he had naturally.  Problem is, he is a lazy fuck.

Dude you do not even know how to quantify "results" in this instance because you have ever played a sport.
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: TrueGrit on January 12, 2014, 07:25:40 PM
He could have done a regional show but instead chased the bucks.
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: XFACTOR on January 12, 2014, 07:27:04 PM
Here is another one you mountebank.

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199607043350101

The Study

This 10 week study took a group of 43 men of normal body weight between the ages of 19 and 40 who all had some degree of weight training experience. These men were then split up into 4 different groups:

    Group 1 did NOT do any form of exercise, and did NOT receive any form of steroids or drugs. (Natural guys doing no weight training.)
    Group 2 did NOT do any form of exercise, but they received weekly injections of 600 mg of testosterone enanthate. (Drug users doing no weight training.)
    Group 3 DID exercise, but they did NOT receive any form of steroids or drugs. (Natural guys doing weight training.)
    Group 4 DID exercise, and they also received weekly injections of 600 mg of testosterone enanthate. (Drug users doing weight training.)

All of their diets (calorie intake, protein intake, nutrient intake, etc.) were standardized according to each person’s body weight, recorded, verified and adjusted when needed. The 2 groups who WERE weight training (groups 3 and 4) followed the same supervised workouts each week.

Meaning, with the exception of the fact that some groups were or were not weight training, and some were or were not using drugs… everything else (diet and training) was equal and even.
The Results

So… guess what happened?

    Group 1 (no exercise, natural) experienced no significant changes. No surprise there.
    Group 2 (no exercise, drug use) was able to build about 7 pounds of muscle. That’s not a typo. The group receiving testosterone injections and NOT working out at all gained 7 pounds of muscle.
   Group 3 (exercise, natural) was able to build about 4 pounds of muscle.
    Group 4 (exercise, drug use) was able to build about 13 pounds of muscle.

So What Does This Study Show Us?

Well, for starters, if you are natural and not doing any form of weight training, your muscle building results will suck. But we all knew that already.

Second, the muscle building effects of steroids are pretty F-ing significant. Despite using identical workout routines and diets, the guys who were also receiving testosterone injections gained over 3 TIMES as much muscle as the natural guys in the same period of time. The average difference was 13lbs gained to just 4lbs gained.

And third… here’s the most insane part of all. The group getting the testosterone injections and NOT doing any form of weight training whatsoever still gained significantly more muscle than the natural guys who WERE weight training. The difference was 7lbs gained to 4lbs gained
.


Let me repeat that again just in case it didn’t sink in. Guys using drugs and doing NOTHING built more muscle than the natural guys who were weight training 3 times per week. How crazy is that?

I know my article about how much muscle you can gain mentions steroid/drug use as one of the main factors that influence a person’s rate and limit of muscle growth, but did you think the effects would be THIS significant? No? Well… surprise! They are.

You are terrible to argue with in that you do not have real knowledge only google.

Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: NYSTATEOFMIND on January 12, 2014, 07:28:26 PM
maybe he needs more  drugs because he really looks like shit..i meam really
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: XFACTOR on January 12, 2014, 07:30:01 PM
He could have done a regional show but instead chased the bucks.

Lol
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: tom joad on January 12, 2014, 07:34:32 PM
I don't understand why Arod chose to go to battle with a bat and Yankees pinstripes rather than going to battle armed only with a thong and fake tan?
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: jude2 on January 12, 2014, 07:37:28 PM
Do all the tennis players who juice look like they train?
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: galeniko on January 12, 2014, 07:39:48 PM
Really?  With the little amount of muscle he had, he could have done it naturally with just 2-3 days a week in the gym. 
he used the stuff for faster recovery first and foremost.

and strenght, explosiveness.you get stronger on the gear, kinda like out of nowhere.

and it increases endurance, if cardio is done.

the fatleniko pic was on gear too,technicaly, it was 1 week after first shot :D
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: The True Adonis on January 12, 2014, 07:40:37 PM
Dude you do not even know how to quantify "results" in this instance because you have ever played a sport.

I have played more sports than you.  I was one of the best in the state at one time in Track and Cross-Country.  I also swam competitively for 8 years and nearly had a state record in Breast Stroke.  

Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: The True Adonis on January 12, 2014, 07:41:28 PM
You are terrible to argue with in that you do not have real knowledge only google.


How am I terrible?

I deal only in facts. Take me out of the equation.  I am just using studies, facts, evidence and Science.  What are you using?  Bro-science and bullshit?

Get the fuck out of here.
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: Wolfsanglerune on January 12, 2014, 07:42:23 PM
been discussed a bit sir...but ive seen it enough times to know some people have close to no response to it or what they expect it to be.
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: The True Adonis on January 12, 2014, 07:43:23 PM
Whats this you say?

ANOTHER study proving that Taking Steroids alone and not working out is better than just working out.

http://m.ajpendo.physiology.org/content/281/6/E1172.full
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: ZOD on January 12, 2014, 07:46:37 PM
I deal only in facts. 

this is from Mike Gravel, former Democratic Senator who ended the military draft

404 - facts not found.
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: galeniko on January 12, 2014, 07:48:41 PM
been discussed a bit sir...but ive seen it enough times to know some people have close to no response to it or what they expect it to be.
i dont know how can it come as suprise to ppl that steroids wont do much for muscle look if diet and training are off.

it just will not happen.youve said it very nicely"what they expect it to be" ;D

another question is how would arod have looked if he took nothing.thatd be few lbs muscle difference, but since he dont give shit about walking ripped,i see no suprises.

john mc enroe and petr korda used steroids too,lol.

and nah he wouldnt have been the same naturaly, maybe look, but not same power, recovery,strenght.
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: The True Adonis on January 12, 2014, 07:50:00 PM
404 - facts not found.
404-Mike Gravel was alone in his filibuster which changed the zeitgeist and led to the ending of the draft. Read the book, Secrets: A Memoir of Vietnam and the Pentagon Papers by Daniel Ellsberg.  Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: pellius on January 12, 2014, 07:52:14 PM
another clueless question regarding steroid use.

you think all you need to do is take 'roids' and you grow muscles?

fucking ignorant clown.

do you have any clue what 'roids' do? maybe you should talk less and read more.

You should be a mod here. Every one of your posts are spot on.
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: The True Adonis on January 12, 2014, 07:52:59 PM
You should be a mod here. Every one of your posts are spot on.
Not if you read his "financial advice".

 :D
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: TrueGrit on January 12, 2014, 07:54:58 PM
 Gali is spot on. Lance Armstrong didn't take a slew of drugs (test, growth, EPO) to look good or beefy in his underwear. Sportsmen take the drugs to aid strength, recovery, endurance.  Most - although some are - are not taking them to add significant amounts of muscle mass.
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: pellius on January 12, 2014, 07:58:59 PM
::)

Taking Steroids has been proven to be more effective than training in a lot of instances.  Here is one of many studies that showed steroids and no training yielded better results than training an no steroids.

http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=16649835
http://www.ergo-log.com/trainingnosteroids.html

But you are missing the point. Steroids and gh aid in recovery. Being able to get up the next day and lift that barbell or swing that bat. Arod was about swinging a bat.

And I've read that study and it is telling but not surprising. They give cows and pigs steroids to beef them up and there is no muscle building program for them. But don't forget that you get even better results in so far as building muscle when you included training and AAS. And you achieve better health and better condition training without AAS then you would just taking AAS. Big muscles don't necessarily equate to better health or athletic condition.
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: pellius on January 12, 2014, 08:00:43 PM
Who said anything about big muscles?  I said he could have achieved all of the results he had naturally.  Problem is, he is a lazy fuck.

There is no way you can prove that. But it has been proven that AAS has enhanced an athlete's performance in a number of sports. That's why they use them. Lazy or not.
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: pellius on January 12, 2014, 08:04:22 PM
Not if you read his "financial advice".

 :D

Hmm, I have not. But point taken. OK, he should be a mod on the steroid board.
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on January 12, 2014, 09:26:52 PM
Here is another one you mountebank.

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199607043350101

The Study

This 10 week study took a group of 43 men of normal body weight between the ages of 19 and 40 who all had some degree of weight training experience. These men were then split up into 4 different groups:

    Group 1 did NOT do any form of exercise, and did NOT receive any form of steroids or drugs. (Natural guys doing no weight training.)
    Group 2 did NOT do any form of exercise, but they received weekly injections of 600 mg of testosterone enanthate. (Drug users doing no weight training.)
    Group 3 DID exercise, but they did NOT receive any form of steroids or drugs. (Natural guys doing weight training.)
    Group 4 DID exercise, and they also received weekly injections of 600 mg of testosterone enanthate. (Drug users doing weight training.)

All of their diets (calorie intake, protein intake, nutrient intake, etc.) were standardized according to each person’s body weight, recorded, verified and adjusted when needed. The 2 groups who WERE weight training (groups 3 and 4) followed the same supervised workouts each week.

Meaning, with the exception of the fact that some groups were or were not weight training, and some were or were not using drugs… everything else (diet and training) was equal and even.
The Results

So… guess what happened?

    Group 1 (no exercise, natural) experienced no significant changes. No surprise there.
    Group 2 (no exercise, drug use) was able to build about 7 pounds of muscle. That’s not a typo. The group receiving testosterone injections and NOT working out at all gained 7 pounds of muscle.
   Group 3 (exercise, natural) was able to build about 4 pounds of muscle.
    Group 4 (exercise, drug use) was able to build about 13 pounds of muscle.

So What Does This Study Show Us?

Well, for starters, if you are natural and not doing any form of weight training, your muscle building results will suck. But we all knew that already.

Second, the muscle building effects of steroids are pretty F-ing significant. Despite using identical workout routines and diets, the guys who were also receiving testosterone injections gained over 3 TIMES as much muscle as the natural guys in the same period of time. The average difference was 13lbs gained to just 4lbs gained.

And third… here’s the most insane part of all. The group getting the testosterone injections and NOT doing any form of weight training whatsoever still gained significantly more muscle than the natural guys who WERE weight training. The difference was 7lbs gained to 4lbs gained
.


Let me repeat that again just in case it didn’t sink in. Guys using drugs and doing NOTHING built more muscle than the natural guys who were weight training 3 times per week. How crazy is that?

I know my article about how much muscle you can gain mentions steroid/drug use as one of the main factors that influence a person’s rate and limit of muscle growth, but did you think the effects would be THIS significant? No? Well… surprise! They are.

600mgs of test E and no working out.....these guys didn't gain muscle, they gained 7lbs of aromatised water bloat. Big surprise!
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on January 12, 2014, 09:32:38 PM
When explosiveness increases and his "smash factor" number will go up...Smash factor is something that is used in golf but is now also used in hitting a baseball. Also, any bat speed that is picked up from steroid use allows the batter to wait on a pitch longer.
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: ESFitness on January 12, 2014, 09:57:26 PM
Whats this you say?

ANOTHER study proving that Taking Steroids alone and not working out is better than just working out.

http://m.ajpendo.physiology.org/content/281/6/E1172.full

you really are a clueless moron.

you think alex looked worse than a guy who took steroids and didn't workout?

I can't believe how completely fucking stupid you are.

why don't you just do the world a favor, tie a rope, wrap it around your neck, and hang yourself as quickly as possible. be sure to call text somebody first, because we all know you won't be having any friends who'd notice you're gone and your neighbors would be pissed at the smell and it'd take them a month to call the cops.

fucking loser.
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: pellius on January 12, 2014, 10:01:16 PM

^^^

See, I told you. Mod material right here. Everything he says is spot on.
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: f450 on January 12, 2014, 10:02:21 PM
Who said anything about big muscles?  I said he could have achieved all of the results he had naturally.  Problem is, he is a lazy fuck.

stupidest thing I've read all year... basically all the record breaking steroid freaks in different sports all over the world, could have achieved the same results naturally... they just needed to work harder.
 you
cant
 be
serious.
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on January 12, 2014, 10:04:33 PM
Adonis is not aware of the purpose of PEDS.

Wait for it.....

To EHANCE PERFORMANCE.

Who cares what this multimillionaire athlete looks like with his shirt off  LOL.
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: tommywishbone on January 12, 2014, 10:17:02 PM
Steroids work. Always have, always will.  

If you can do it, steroids make you do it better. This is undisputed.
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: The True Adonis on January 12, 2014, 10:21:54 PM
Adonis is not aware of the purpose of PEDS.

Wait for it.....

To EHANCE PERFORMANCE.

Who cares what this multimillionaire athlete looks like with his shirt off  LOL.
(http://test.terezowens.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/alex-rodriguez-1000x0415x600.jpg)
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: G_Thang on January 12, 2014, 10:29:10 PM
another clueless question regarding steroid use.
fucking ignorant clown.

 ;D
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: Palpatine Q on January 12, 2014, 10:40:08 PM
When explosiveness increases and his "smash factor" number will go up...Smash factor is something that is used in golf but is now also used in hitting a baseball. Also, any bat speed that is picked up from steroid use allows the batter to wait on a pitch longer.


This.

There is a 4 foot hrick wall on one side of my driveway.  Before I took tren..I had to get my dog from the neighbors yard and it was a pain in the ass getting over it quickly...after Tren I could put one hand on top of the wall and clear it by a foot with zero effort.
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: Nasty Nate on January 13, 2014, 12:45:07 AM
::)

Taking Steroids has been proven to be more effective than training in a lot of instances.  Here is one of many studies that showed steroids and no training yielded better results than training an no steroids.

http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=16649835
http://www.ergo-log.com/trainingnosteroids.html

lol after I saw his post I was gonna post something like this.

"uh ya actually just taking steroids and not training DOES yield muscle gains"

Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on January 13, 2014, 04:36:14 AM
I'm sure the stack was weak by bodybuilding standards... his weekly dosage would't even last
through breafast for a bb.

Even then I bet it gave him 15lbs of muscle/water. It most definitely worked very well.
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: MONSTER_TRICEPS on January 13, 2014, 06:15:47 AM
Adonis doing some master trolling again. Can't believe you people still fall for this.  ;D
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on January 13, 2014, 06:23:19 AM
Adonis doing some master trolling again. Can't believe you people still fall for this.  ;D

No no Adonis believes this stuff
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: hipolito mejia on January 13, 2014, 06:25:41 AM
Did he not even lift?  ???

He needed to
Come negative in drug textings..... And he did 16 times.

Next question.
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: Ronnie Rep on January 13, 2014, 06:27:36 AM
News Flash..... Steroids work!
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: CalvinH on January 13, 2014, 06:28:41 AM

This.

There is a 4 foot hrick wall on one side of my driveway.  Before I took tren..I had to get my dog from the neighbors yard and it was a pain in the ass getting over it quickly...after Tren I could put one hand on top of the wall and clear it by a foot with zero effort.


Lol, don't know why but this makes me laugh ;D
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on January 13, 2014, 06:30:20 AM

This.

There is a 4 foot hrick wall on one side of my driveway.  Before I took tren..I had to get my dog from the neighbors yard and it was a pain in the ass getting over it quickly...after Tren I could put one hand on top of the wall and clear it by a foot with zero effort.

Oh yeah? Well, after EQ, I shaved 7 minutes off of my normal lawn mowing time.

What you?
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: The_Punisher on January 13, 2014, 06:34:59 AM
at this point, there is nothing A-Roid can do to salvage his legacy...no Hall of Fame for him...his Lawyers are asking the Federal court to review this case..blah..blah..blah.. ....Yankee management tossed champagne upon hearing this news and when or if A-roid career resumes, let's hope it's not gonna be with the yanks......BUSTED!!!!
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: Pet shop boys on January 13, 2014, 06:39:25 AM
News Flash..... Steroids work!

News flash .... STEROIDS ARE PART OF BASEBALL
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: XFACTOR on January 13, 2014, 07:15:41 AM
stupidest thing I've read all year... basically all the record breaking steroid freaks in different sports all over the world, could have achieved the same results naturally... they just needed to work harder.
 you
cant
 be
serious.

The TA guy is not very smart.  The guy has to use google as he doesn't have good formal education or experiences.

  TA I get you  want to portray that you have a little class and smarts but you need to start by travelling and not sitting around in the small little town. You talk about history/religion (and we share similar beliefs)  yet you have never been to Israel or Switzerland.  Googling studies in your small little town doesn't make you smart.
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: Palpatine Q on January 13, 2014, 07:38:45 AM

Lol, don't know why but this makes me laugh ;D

That dog is a pain in my ass  ;D
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: Palpatine Q on January 13, 2014, 07:40:41 AM
Oh yeah? Well, after EQ, I shaved 7 minutes off of my normal lawn mowing time.

What you?

Don't be s dick and copy me man. Not cool.

I'll punch you right in the fucking face
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: oldtimer1 on January 13, 2014, 07:47:57 AM
Bodybuilding fans have a warped view on what an athlete should look like. You could take the top ten pro bodybuilders and they would never be a factor in any sport like the NFL, Olympic lifting, sprinting, or boxing. Drug bloated muscles are just for show. Hitting baseballs involves power. If it was strength a power lifter would be recruited as home run hitters every where.

Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on January 13, 2014, 07:59:01 AM
600mgs of test E and no working out.....these guys didn't gain muscle, they gained 7lbs of aromatised water bloat. Big surprise!

How do I get into one of these studies where I can get free pharma test and GH?
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: Palpatine Q on January 13, 2014, 08:07:17 AM
Bodybuilding fans have a warped view on what an athlete should look like. You could take the top ten pro bodybuilders and they would never be a factor in any sport like the NFL, Olympic lifting, sprinting, or boxing. Drug bloated muscles are just for show. Hitting baseballs involves power. If it was strength a power lifter would be recruited as home run hitters every where.



Most pro athletes that  I have met have long arms and they are all ass and legs.
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: Ronnie Rep on January 13, 2014, 08:14:14 AM
Most pro athletes that  I have met have long arms and they are all ass and legs.
True, except for running backs, full backs!
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: tom joad on January 13, 2014, 09:35:20 AM
TA I get you  want to portray that you have a little class and smarts but you need to start by travelling and not sitting around in the small little town. You talk about history/religion (and we share similar beliefs)  yet you have never been to Israel or Switzerland.  Googling studies in your small little town doesn't make you smart.

Adonis, do you have a passport? (about 65% of Americans don't)
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: XFACTOR on January 13, 2014, 10:07:20 AM
Adonis, do you have a passport? (about 65% of Americans don't)

Is that seriously the stat?

I highly doubt that guy has a passport, he doesn't go anywhere.
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on January 13, 2014, 10:20:56 AM
How do I get into one of these studies where I can get free pharma test and GH?

Send your nude pictures to Ron Avidan and he will contact the appropriate people.
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: tom joad on January 13, 2014, 10:35:31 AM
Is that seriously the stat?

I highly doubt that guy has a passport, he doesn't go anywhere.

yeah, about 35% of Americans have a passport which is an all-time high.

in 1989, less than 3% of Americans had a passport.
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on January 13, 2014, 10:52:24 AM
Send your nude pictures to Ron Avidan and he will contact the appropriate people.

I've sent him numerous over the years and have yet to be invited to one  :P
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: The True Adonis on January 13, 2014, 11:27:09 AM
Oh yeah? Well, after EQ, I shaved 7 minutes off of my normal lawn mowing time.

What you?
ROFLAMO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: The True Adonis on January 13, 2014, 11:28:25 AM
The TA guy is not very smart.  The guy has to use google as he doesn't have good formal education or experiences.

  TA I get you  want to portray that you have a little class and smarts but you need to start by travelling and not sitting around in the small little town. You talk about history/religion (and we share similar beliefs)  yet you have never been to Israel or Switzerland.  Googling studies in your small little town doesn't make you smart.
I`ve been to France, Germany, London and Austria.  I have family that live in Boblingen.  Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on January 13, 2014, 11:31:52 AM
I have played more sports than you.  I was one of the best in the state at one time in Track and Cross-Country.  I also swam competitively for 8 years and nearly had a state record in Breast Stroke.  


:D

you look more like a chef than a former "track" athlete .. a swimmer? I'll give you that  ;D
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: The True Adonis on January 13, 2014, 11:41:24 AM
:D

you look more like a chef than a former "track" athlete .. a swimmer? I'll give you that  ;D
You are in luck today.  I am serving up fists on a platter and you are invited for a six course meal.
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: funk51 on January 13, 2014, 11:45:43 AM
Did he not even lift?  ???
ask this man he introduced a-rod to a steroid dealer while a-rod was still a teenager..... ::) :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: The True Adonis on January 13, 2014, 12:22:00 PM
Adonis, do you have a passport? (about 65% of Americans don't)
I`ve had a passport since 2-3 years old, my first trip to Germany.
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on January 13, 2014, 12:24:20 PM
You are in luck today.  I am serving up fists on a platter and you are invited for a six course meal.
good one, bet you learned it from your grampa ...impressive nonetheless Michelle Phelps
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: The True Adonis on January 13, 2014, 12:28:31 PM
good one, bet you learned it from your grampa ...impressive nonetheless Michelle Phelps
I learned it while studying for my black belt in Ro Man Kwon Do.
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on January 13, 2014, 12:32:20 PM
I learned it while studying for my black belt in Ro Man Kwon Do.
weak comeback .. rethink it and come back again
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: The True Adonis on January 13, 2014, 12:33:37 PM
weak comeback .. rethink it and come back again
I don`t need to rethink anything.  I am a 7th degree in kicking Romanian ass.
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on January 13, 2014, 12:35:27 PM
To answer TA's question.  Latino genetics.  They all look like shit.  Not many of them, even on all that gear have good physiques.
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: The True Adonis on January 13, 2014, 12:38:07 PM
To answer TA's question.  Latino genetics.  They all look like shit.  Not many of them, even on all that gear have good physiques.
Interesting observation.  Do you suppose this is why the Latin community likes to overdo the oils and synthol?
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on January 13, 2014, 12:39:34 PM
Interesting observation.  Do you suppose this is why the Latin community likes to overdo the oils and synthol?

This and the popularity of plastic surgery down there.
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: hipolito mejia on January 13, 2014, 04:35:47 PM
To answer TA's question.  Latino genetics.  They all look like shit.  Not many of them, even on all that gear have good physiques.


Couldn't be more wrong.....  maybe if youre from Mexico/central America you don't have good genetics  but go to Cuba and or DR the average teenager there is taller and in better  shape than the average US white boy.

Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: The True Adonis on January 13, 2014, 04:36:09 PM

Couldn't be more wrong.....  maybe if youre from central America you don't have good genetics  but go to Cuba and or DR the average teenager there is taller and in better  shape than the average US white boy.


???
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: hipolito mejia on January 13, 2014, 04:42:16 PM
???


I have been there myself buddy... Ive seen  players both  amateur and professional for a little while .......

but to make it simple to you, Just Go to any gym in the states and then go visit some In the caribbean   even the woman eating garbage are in way better shape there ....and don't crack as fast as Caucasians do.
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: qbkilla on January 13, 2014, 04:46:54 PM
Did he not even lift?  ???

i ask the same question about 99% o guys that post on bodybuilding forums,,why do they look like shit after taking so much roids? 
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: flinstones1 on January 13, 2014, 05:16:54 PM
Are you serious? Very stupid question dude. A quarter of a billion dollars is why he didn't  walk around looking like jay cutler

It's not a stupid question .... Alex was groomed by Conseco from an early age. forget steroids...Conseco  was the guy to bring serious weight training to baseball and changed the myth that weights would make you slow and inflexible when he became the biggest strongest and the fastest guy in the game. In Jose's book he even talks about going to bodybuilders for advice on how to use growth hormone. Mcgwire's brother was a competitive bodybuilder as well who designed mark's cycles.

The reason alex never looked impressive is because of his height. 6'4.
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: flinstones1 on January 13, 2014, 05:30:11 PM
Quote from: hipolito mejia link=topic=513980.msg7267946#msg7267946 date=138966013[b
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I have been there myself buddy... Ive seen  players both  amateur and professional for a little while .[/b]......

but to make it simple to you, Just Go to any gym in the states and then go visit some In the caribbean   even the woman eating garbage are in way better shape there ....and don't crack as fast as Caucasians do.

What utter bullshit. The only  reason you mexicans dominate in baseball is because  In the dominican republic baseball is these kid's way out of the ghetto and the fact is  white kids are pushed to get an education and even the ones who dont  ;D  are not going hungry any time soon...

Also let me add that  if the african american youth directed a 1/4 of the energy they put into football and basketball into baseball, your players would all be sent back home on a bus
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: Grape Ape on January 13, 2014, 05:43:59 PM
It's not a stupid question .... Alex was groomed by Conseco from an early age. forget steroids...Conseco  was the guy to bring serious weight training to baseball and changed the myth that weights would make you slow and inflexible when he became the biggest strongest and the fastest guy in the game. In Jose's book he even talks about going to bodybuilders for advice on how to use growth hormone. Mcgwire's brother was a competitive bodybuilder as well who designed mark's cycles.

The reason alex never looked impressive is because of his height. 6'4.

The training changed though.   I've read many articles on it.  Canseco trained like a bodybuilder.  Rodriguez hired smarter people who train him for strength, speed, flexibility and explosiveness.

I remember once a trainer was complaining that the guys wanted to keep their waists small, and his counter was "baseball players need those muscles"
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: The True Adonis on January 13, 2014, 05:44:57 PM
Aren't you getbig's resident Southern Belle who doesn't follow sports and instead enjoys baking muffins and gardening?  ???
I`ve got your Southern Bell right here and I am ready to ring it until you go deaf.
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: hipolito mejia on January 13, 2014, 06:00:24 PM
It's not a stupid question .... Alex was groomed by Conseco from an early age. forget steroids...Conseco  was the guy to bring serious weight training to baseball and changed the myth that weights would make you slow and inflexible when he became the biggest strongest and the fastest guy in the game. In Jose's book he even talks about going to bodybuilders for advice on how to use growth hormone. Mcgwire's brother was a competitive bodybuilder as well who designed mark's cycles.

The reason alex never looked impressive is because of his height. 6'4.

Jose is 6'4" actually .
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: hipolito mejia on January 13, 2014, 06:10:02 PM
What utter bullshit. The only  reason you mexicans dominate in baseball is because  In the dominican republic baseball is these kid's way out of the ghetto and the fact is  white kids are pushed to get an education and even the ones who dont  ;D  are not going hungry any time soon...

Also let me add that  if the african american youth directed a 1/4 of the energy they put into football and basketball into baseball, your players would all be sent back home on a bus


Go back to school buddy, im not talking about the broke ass toothless immigrant forced to leave everything behind to come to the USA, Also Mexicans maybe the (only latinos you know), are about 5'7" or less in average while Dominicans and Cubans are about 5'10"tall as I have been several times to both countries   You can go to school and still b strong fast and in good shape if you got the genetics......white trash are not pushed to go get education and yet look like shit.


But Im gonna make it simple to you,  got to Dominican Rep or Cuba to any bar to have few drinks  then do the same in the USA  youll find more people out of shape in the US bars/pubs   ...
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: The True Adonis on January 13, 2014, 06:23:13 PM
Weak sauce, Paula Deen. ::)

You were probably in the kitchen with your apron on while you typed that shit.
Doesn`t matter what room I am sashaying in.  I could wear your mom`s moo moo and still serve you up a Thanksgiving beating in front of your wife, "Horatio Guns".
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: Grape Ape on January 13, 2014, 06:49:23 PM
Jose is 6'4" actually .

Flint's been sorta know to ignore baseball facts when they don't fit his argument.
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: XFACTOR on January 13, 2014, 07:58:31 PM
Flint's been sorta know to ignore baseball facts when they don't fit his argument.

I don't even respond to him anymore. Like a gnat flying around my apple.
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: pellius on January 13, 2014, 09:17:41 PM
Doesn`t matter what room I am sashaying in.  I could wear your mom`s moo moo and still serve you up a Thanksgiving beating in front of your wife, "Horatio Guns".

Um, that would be "muumuu".

(http://www.wifeadvice.com/wp-content/uploads/wifeadvice/2010/03/homer_muumuu.jpg)
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: The True Adonis on January 13, 2014, 09:43:27 PM
Um, that would be "muumuu".

(http://www.wifeadvice.com/wp-content/uploads/wifeadvice/2010/03/homer_muumuu.jpg)
I was referring to his mother`s utters.
Title: Re: Why did Alex Rodriguez look like shit despite all the roids?
Post by: pellius on January 13, 2014, 09:49:20 PM
I was referring to his mother`s utters.

Ah! My mistake. Carry on.