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Title: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Wiggs on January 31, 2014, 06:13:48 PM
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f93_1390833151
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Schnauzer on January 31, 2014, 06:20:35 PM
Fuck this guy. He's a traitor and a coward.
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Wiggs on January 31, 2014, 06:21:40 PM
Fuck this guy. He's a traitor and a coward.

No he's not. He's a patriot and a hero.  Who exactly did he betray? He's given his info to the American Public.
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Radical Plato on January 31, 2014, 06:24:06 PM
Fuck this guy. He's a traitor and a coward.
lol Brainwashed idiot OUTED !
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Radical Plato on January 31, 2014, 06:24:54 PM
No he's not. He's a patriot and a hero.  Who exactly did he betray? He's given his info to the American Public.
Some people paradoxically just love being fucked up the arse against their will.
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Schnauzer on January 31, 2014, 06:25:37 PM
No he's not. He's a patriot and a hero.  Who exactly did he betray? He's given his info to the American Public.

He gave classified info (that he stole) to WikiLeaks for public dissemination, potentially putting people in the field in danger and giving intel to terrorists.
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Schnauzer on January 31, 2014, 06:26:35 PM
lol Brainwashed idiot OUTED !

Fuck you. Maybe you are the one being brainwashed by the liberal media.
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: TheGrinch on January 31, 2014, 06:30:23 PM
wait so its okay that the US goverment spies on its own people in their own homes?  ???
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Radical Plato on January 31, 2014, 06:32:02 PM
Fuck you. Maybe you are the one being brainwashed by the liberal media.
Fuck you.  Maybe you like living under a Government that protects the political classes and couldn't give a fuck about the rights of ordinary citizens, that's not the world I want to live in.  You may want to be loyal to a Government that has no loyalty to you, but I don't.
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 31, 2014, 06:37:05 PM
Schnauzer?  :)

FUCK YOU

Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Schnauzer on January 31, 2014, 06:37:28 PM
Fuck you.  Maybe you like living under a Government that protects the political classes and couldn't give a fuck about the rights of ordinary citizens, that's not the world I want to live in.  You may want to be loyal to a Government that has no loyalty to you, but I don't.

You are living in a fantasy land. Stop being a fucking drama queen.
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Emmortal on January 31, 2014, 06:37:43 PM
He gave classified info (that he stole) to WikiLeaks for public dissemination, potentially putting people in the field in danger and giving intel to terrorists.

Quote
"If I am a traitor, who did I betray
I gave all of my information to the American Public
To American Jurnalists who were reporting on American issues

If they see that as treason
I think people really need to consider
Who do they think they are working for

The public is suppose to be their boss, not their enemy"
Edward Snowden
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Schnauzer on January 31, 2014, 06:38:19 PM
Schnauzer?  :)

FUCK YOU



Fuck you, dipshit.
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Schnauzer on January 31, 2014, 06:40:18 PM
wait so its okay that the US goverment spies on its own people in their own homes?  ???

What did "the government" do to you? Did they tap your phones? Is there a nondescript van parked outside your house? Think for yourself, not what the media tells you to think.
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Emmortal on January 31, 2014, 06:46:28 PM
What did "the government" do to you? Did they tap your phones? Is there a nondescript van parked outside your house? Think for yourself, not what the media tells you to think.

Fact: The NSA gathers data on every single person on the planet, from SMS, phone calls, emails and web site browsing.  Go read the documents straight from the NSA that Snowden released.

This is a direct violation of the fourth amendment just in case you aren't aware of our constitution since you're knowledge of it shows you know little to nothing.
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Zillotch on January 31, 2014, 06:52:00 PM
What did "the government" do to you? Did they tap your phones? Is there a nondescript van parked outside your house? Think for yourself, not what the media tells you to think.

You're a twit.
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Palpatine Q on January 31, 2014, 06:52:54 PM
Fact: The NSA gathers data on every single person on the planet, from SMS, phone calls, emails and web site browsing.  Go read the documents straight from the NSA that Snowden released.

This is a direct violation of the fourth amendment just in case you aren't aware of our constitution since you're knowledge of it shows you know little to nothing.

Big fucking deal. So does Facebook. Cable Television. Wal Mart...etc etc....you plan on turning into a serial killer..who cares .

Blame technology.

I was out drinking in Old Town Scottsdale last night. Started at AZ88 and went to HiLife...now the world knows...oh no  ::)
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: K-1 on January 31, 2014, 06:56:25 PM
Fuck this guy. He's a traitor and a coward.
X2

He's slowly realizing nothing he thought was revelation was actually not already.

Typical idiot who got a clearance and though he was on some ground breaking shit.
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Emmortal on January 31, 2014, 06:56:39 PM
Big fucking deal. So does Facebook. Cable Television. Wal Mart...etc etc....you plan on turning into a serial killer..who cares .

Blame technology.

Facebook gathers and stores my phone calls?

My cable tv gathers my e-mail contents?

This is obviously a subject that you don't comprehend, go do something you're good at, lying about your steroid use.
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Palpatine Q on January 31, 2014, 06:59:31 PM
Facebook gathers and stores my phone calls?

My cable tv gathers my e-mail contents?

This is obviously a subject that you don't comprehend, go do something you're good at, lying about your steroid use.

They gather other facets of your personal life...ie your "information" dipshit.

Again...who cares. Listen to my phone calls they are pretty boring.
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: mr.turbo on January 31, 2014, 07:01:25 PM
just another freemdom hater
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Emmortal on January 31, 2014, 07:03:13 PM
They gather other facets of your personal life...ie your "information" dipshit.

Again...who cares. Listen to my phone calls they are pretty boring.

The obvious difference, which you miss, is that I choose to use those services and agree to the terms those companies ask, I can also choose not to participate.  It's my choice.  The government, which the NSA falls under, has to follow the constitution, it's not my personal choice to have my entire digital life recorded and stored.
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Palpatine Q on January 31, 2014, 07:08:17 PM
The obvious difference, which you miss, is that I choose to use those services and agree to the terms those companies ask, I can also choose not to participate.  It's my choice.  The government, which the NSA falls under, has to follow the constitution, it's not my personal choice to have my entire digital life recorded and stored.


LOL...you think you have a "choice" whether marketing firms cull whatever they can about you and sell the info. How cute.

I dont think its right..it's reality. Again blame technogy.  15 years ago you couldnt google someone and know just about everything you might want to in 5 seconds

Ofc the govt and big business are going to exploit that.
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Teutonic Knight on January 31, 2014, 07:12:39 PM
He gave classified info (that he stole) to WikiLeaks for public dissemination, potentially putting people in the field in danger and giving intel to terrorists.

Wiggs was security guard at that "heavily" guarded storage  ;D
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Shockwave on January 31, 2014, 07:13:31 PM
No he's not. He's a patriot and a hero.  Who exactly did he betray? He's given his info to the American Public.
I have to agree... As pro military as I am.... I'm more pro-constitution... and while I believe there are certain things the public doesnt need to know... the US Gov has been out of control and we need more people like Snowden to help bring it back into equilibrium... the gov has no respect or fear of its citizens and is running rampant.

Unfortunatley I don't see balance coming.. the Gov is too good at manipulating the citizens.
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Schnauzer on January 31, 2014, 07:14:49 PM
Fact: The NSA gathers data on every single person on the planet, from SMS, phone calls, emails and web site browsing.  Go read the documents straight from the NSA that Snowden released.

This is a direct violation of the fourth amendment just in case you aren't aware of our constitution since you're knowledge of it shows you know little to nothing.

Yes, I'm sure they do. Do you know why? Because the government owns the airwaves and the internet backbone. They developed the tech that eventually allowed you and I to email, text,etc. There is no expectation of privacy once you send your cellphone signal over public airwaves or send an email. Right or wrong, that's the way it is.
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Schnauzer on January 31, 2014, 07:17:28 PM
I have to agree... As pro military as I am.... I'm more pro-constitution... and while I believe there are certain things the public doesnt need to know... the US Gov has been out of control and we need more people like Snowden to help bring it back into equilibrium... the gov has no respect or fear of its citizens and is running rampant.

Unfortunatley I don't see balance coming.. the Gov is too good at manipulating the citizens.

I have to disagree with you. The US gov't is one of the least oppressive in the world. Conspiracy theorists and liberals have convinced themselves that there is a bad repressive gov't watching them. If more Americans went overseas they would appreciate the system we have. I have lived in Venezuela and Egypt, now those are repressive governments that are out of control.
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Schnauzer on January 31, 2014, 07:19:50 PM
The obvious difference, which you miss, is that I choose to use those services and agree to the terms those companies ask, I can also choose not to participate.  It's my choice.  The government, which the NSA falls under, has to follow the constitution, it's not my personal choice to have my entire digital life recorded and stored.


The U. S. Constitution does not give you the right to privacy.
 http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/conlaw/rightofprivacy.html  (http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/conlaw/rightofprivacy.html)
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: TrueGrit on January 31, 2014, 07:22:14 PM
Hates oppressive, rights-abusing government that spies on its people.....goes to live in Russia.
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Wiggs on January 31, 2014, 07:36:20 PM
Schnauzer you're either a shill or an idiot. 
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Schnauzer on January 31, 2014, 07:41:17 PM
Schnauzer you're either a shill or an idiot. 

I am neither, my Hebrew friend. I am a combat veteran and a lover of my country. If you want to denigrate me by calling me "idiot" that is your right in a free society.
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Primary Captain on January 31, 2014, 07:43:50 PM
No he's not. He's a patriot and a hero.  Who exactly did he betray? He's given his info to the American Public.
Then why did he run and hide like a coward instead of facing the consequences of his actions like a man? Instead he fled to enemy soil. If wiggins endorses this traitor then wiggins is a gutless traitor as well.
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Shockwave on January 31, 2014, 07:44:24 PM
I am neither, my Hebrew friend. I am a combat veteran and a lover of my country. If you want to denigrate me by calling me "idiot" that is your right in a free society.
oh? What branch?

Former Marine here.
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Schnauzer on January 31, 2014, 07:48:51 PM
oh? What branch?

Former Marine here.

I was active duty Navy (a Corpsman, so I got to know the Marines quite well), then Navy Reserve, then out a couple years, then Army National Guard and was deployed twice with the Army.
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: agenda21nwo on January 31, 2014, 09:18:41 PM
Fuck this guy. He's a traitor and a coward.

Spoken like a proud member of the Stasi.
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on January 31, 2014, 09:42:34 PM
They gather other facets of your personal life...ie your "information" dipshit.

Again...who cares. Listen to my phone calls they are pretty boring.

What about when you're arranging to buy gear? This doesn't concern you?
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Automation on January 31, 2014, 09:45:58 PM
Snowden: top bloke. Took one for the team to reveal NSA skullduggery to the world. Exiled in Russia to be used as a pawn by Putin, will likely be sent back as a trade when it suits, and then spend eons in prison for trivial shit like Bradley Manning.

As for all this "operatives in the field" shit, give me a break, I bet not one person died because of the leak.
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: agenda21nwo on January 31, 2014, 09:51:04 PM
Seriously, this is how organizations like the Nazis take power - no one stands up against them, or those that do are killed.

I can guarantee you there were foolish Germans, just like our own Schnauzer, who in the early days of the birth of the Nazis had his exact same attitude to people like Snowden who tried to speak out.

But if you cannot see what is happening in America, perhaps you are meant to be put in death camps, and to suffer horribly?
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Schnauzer on January 31, 2014, 09:51:14 PM
Spoken like a proud member of the Stasi.

The Stasi was dissolved over 23 years ago
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Palpatine Q on January 31, 2014, 09:52:15 PM
Quote from: Big Chiro Flex link=topic=516053.msg7305878#msg730I'm5878 date=1391233354
What about when you're arranging to buy gear? This doesn't concern you?

Not  In the slightest.

I doubt the DEA gives a shit about my one bottle of tren...hell I'm not even.on anything illegal right now
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Schnauzer on January 31, 2014, 09:52:28 PM
Seriously, this is how organizations like the Nazis take power - no one stands up against them, or those that do are killed.

I can guarantee you there were foolish Germans, just like our own Schnauzer, who in the early days of the birth of the Nazis had his exact same attitude to people like Snowden who tried to speak out.

But if you cannot see what is happening in America, perhaps you are meant to be put in death camps, and to suffer horribly?

So you are comparing the US government to the Nazis? Death camps are coming to America? Stop listening to Alex Jones.
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: agenda21nwo on January 31, 2014, 09:56:22 PM
So you are comparing the US government to the Nazis? Death camps are coming to America? Stop listening to Alex Jones.

You think history cannot repeat itself?  What happened in Germany, Russia, China, Cambodia, etc etc etc cannot happen in the USA?  I call that arrogant or stupid.  Which of those two are you?
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Palpatine Q on January 31, 2014, 09:59:17 PM
So you are comparing the US government to the Nazis? Death camps are coming to America? Stop poo rk.listening to Alex Jones.

These people watch too many fkng movies.

The ecoomy collapsed 2008....there werent death camps and roving bands of maauders doing home invasions. People lost a lot of money...said oh fucking well and went back to work. World didnt end..no.apocalypse..no.m ass graves..no zombies
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Schnauzer on January 31, 2014, 09:59:31 PM
You think history cannot repeat itself?  What happened in Germany, Russia, China, Cambodia, etc etc etc cannot happen in the USA?  I call that arrogant or stupid.  Which of those two are you?

Because history can repeat itself you think the US will become a Nazi state? I call that delusional or paranoid. Which of those two are you?
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Palpatine Q on January 31, 2014, 10:01:28 PM
Because history can repeat itself you think the US will become a Nazi state? I call that delusional or paranoid. Which of those two are you?

Schnauzer easily clubbing these fools with rational thinking
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: dr.chimps on January 31, 2014, 10:03:40 PM
Snowden should be *commended* for his *spy* disclosures, but the gross way he went about it was *problematic*

/my name is 'wes'
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: agenda21nwo on January 31, 2014, 10:04:02 PM
Because history can repeat itself you think the US will become a Nazi state? I call that delusional or paranoid. Which of those two are you?

YOU embarrass yourself by showing your low intellectual capabilities.  I never said it would become a Nazi state, I indicated it could become a similar environment for it's citizens.  Capiche?

And Groink, your weak handed attempt to put all concerned citizens into a "single basket" along with each other is also a sign of a weak brain.
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: agenda21nwo on January 31, 2014, 10:05:27 PM
Schnauzer easily clubbing these fools with rational thinking

Again embarrassing yourself.  Just as well the steroid thing is working for you.
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Palpatine Q on January 31, 2014, 10:09:06 PM
YOU embarrass yourself by showing your low intellectual capabilities.  I never said it would become a Nazi state, I indicated it could become a similar environment for it's citizens.  Capiche?

And Groink, your weak handed attempt to put all concerned citizens into a "single basket" along with each other is also a sign of a weak brain.

Says umm....you.

Who are you again exactly that you are under the impression your opinion is somehow more valid ?
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: agenda21nwo on January 31, 2014, 10:12:05 PM
Says umm....you.

Who are you again exactly that you are under the impression your opinion is somehow more valid ?

Again embarrassing yourself.

Let me give you a little lesson in analytical thinking and argument - it doesn't matter "who I am" but the argument I put forward.  It's not a "personality" or "physique" contest. 

Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Palpatine Q on January 31, 2014, 10:16:32 PM
Again embarrassing yourself.

Let me give you a little lesson in analytical thinking and argument - it doesn't matter "who I am" but the argument I put forward.  It's not a "personality" or "physique" contest. 



Its not an argument. You are proselytizing to us  about things you cant possibly know...and inssting you are "smarter" than me because I dont agree.

Ok then   ::)
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: cephissus on January 31, 2014, 10:23:43 PM
Again embarrassing yourself.

Let me give you a little lesson in analytical thinking and argument - it doesn't matter "who I am" but the argument I put forward.  It's not a "personality" or "physique" contest. 



newsflash: things don't "matter" except to people.  lesson in argument: they have little to do with "truth"

hope this helps
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: agenda21nwo on January 31, 2014, 10:37:01 PM
newsflash: things don't "matter" except to people.  lesson in argument: they have little to do with "truth"

hope this helps

no kidding?

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Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: f450 on January 31, 2014, 10:49:59 PM
They gather other facets of your personal life...ie your "information" dipshit.

Again...who cares. Listen to my phone calls they are pretty boring.


thats because your life is useless... you are useless.. your family, your interests, your loved ones.. all useless. You will not contribute anything of value to the human race. You will eat, shit, die and be forgotten ... useless.
There are people unlike you and me who are not useless, who have the potential and ability to effect immense change. You dont want a government which is bought and paid for by corporations, bankers and the uber-rich elite snooping on these folks and snuffing out/coopting them long before they fulfill their potential.

Americans are some of the most stupid people on the planet...giving away all these hard fought rights just to feel a little safer. Fucking disgusting. Disgusting and maddening.


/rant
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Palpatine Q on January 31, 2014, 10:55:58 PM

thats because your life is useless... you are useless.. your family, your interests, your loved ones.. all useless. You will not contribute anything of value to the human race. You will eat, shit, die and be forgotten ... useless.
There are people unlike you and me who are not useless, who have the potential and ability to effect immense change. You dont want a government which is bought and paid for by corporations, bankers and the uber-rich elite snooping on these folks and snuffing out/coopting them long before they fulfill their potential.

Americans are some of the most stupid people on the planet...giving away all these hard fought rights just to feel a little safer. Fucking disgusting. Disgusting and maddening.


/rant

You can "not want" it until your eyes bleed.  Too late  ;)
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Rascal full on February 01, 2014, 05:01:39 AM
Interesting to hear the views of those that think all this spying is somehow ok. The general feeling seems to be 'why worry if you have nothing to hide?'

I get that but still get the feeling this is all heading in the wrong direction. Where will people draw the line? When is invasion of privacy going to be considered too much?

One positive thing is at least people are discussing this stuff and having a debate about it. I honestly couldn't even see the other side until I heard Schnauzer and Groink give their opinions.
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Parker on February 01, 2014, 06:03:48 AM
Those who surrender freedom for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.
Benjamin Franklin

Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Palpatine Q on February 01, 2014, 06:33:48 AM
Those who surrender freedom for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.
Benjamin Franklin




Benjamin Franklin had slaves....LOLOL.

Pro Tip about our "Founding Fathers"

They were rch guys who didnt want to pay taxes...sound familiar ?
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Parker on February 01, 2014, 06:51:35 AM

Benjamin Franklin had slaves....LOLOL.

Pro Tip about our "Founding Fathers"

They were rch guys who didnt want to pay taxes...sound familiar ?
Yep, and didn't want a government far away telling us what to do...
The US colonies were not the money makers, even with the taxes. It was the Caribbean that was making money for England.

Sugar tax and tea tax, who would they most affect back then? Chances are the rich folk.
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: theredeemer on February 01, 2014, 07:24:43 AM
Groink, you sound like a spineless toady who overcompensates by taking steroids to get big muscles to make up for your lilly livered nature.
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: MAXX on February 01, 2014, 07:48:37 AM
good guy

missuse of power in the US goverment. probably because of the jews. he talks about powerful lobbygroups, that's it.
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Voice of Doom on February 01, 2014, 08:24:34 AM
lots of bottoms in this thread 'ok' with big daddy watching out for them... ::)
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Rami on February 01, 2014, 08:47:43 AM
go suck schnauze
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: mass243 on February 01, 2014, 10:13:39 AM
Kid Snowden nominated for Nobel peace prize candidate by Norwegian MP:

http://rt.com/news/snowden-nobel-peace-prize-norway-353/



He has temporary asylum in Russia for a year. It will be interesting to see what happens with this.
He also has recently asked for extra protection after receiving "death threats" from US officials.

Snowden Seeking Russian Protection After Threats: Lawyer

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-01-21/snowden-requesting-russian-protection-after-threats-lawyer-says.html
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: thebrink on February 01, 2014, 03:16:03 PM
Fuck this guy. He's a traitor and a coward.

Moron.  ::)

He's trying to protect YOUR rights.
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Schnauzer on February 01, 2014, 03:17:22 PM
Moron.  ::)

He's trying to protect YOUR rights.

I protected my own rights (and yours) by serving my country in the military.





Moron.  ;D
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: thebrink on February 01, 2014, 03:23:20 PM
I protected my own rights (and yours) by serving my country in the military.





Moron.  ;D

Fine, you win  ::)
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on February 01, 2014, 08:26:05 PM
I protected my own rights (and yours) by serving my country in the military.





Moron.  ;D

 ::)
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Palpatine Q on February 01, 2014, 08:29:26 PM
lots of bottoms in this thread 'ok' with big daddy watching out for them... ::)

And a couple of realists.

You may as well complain about gravity...or racism.

Accept the world you live in and make the best of it.
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: bebop396 on February 01, 2014, 08:34:23 PM
Fuck this guy. He's a traitor and a coward.

I did not read this thread, this is all i needed to agree with..Rest is all bullshit!
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Parker on February 01, 2014, 08:52:08 PM
Seriously, this is how organizations like the Nazis take power - no one stands up against them, or those that do are killed.

I can guarantee you there were foolish Germans, just like our own Schnauzer, who in the early days of the birth of the Nazis had his exact same attitude to people like Snowden who tried to speak out.

But if you cannot see what is happening in America, perhaps you are meant to be put in death camps, and to suffer horribly?
Godwin's Law...
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Marty Champions on February 01, 2014, 08:57:11 PM
No he's not. He's a patriot and a hero.  Who exactly did he betray? He's given his info to the American Public.
x2
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: tu_holmes on February 01, 2014, 09:02:55 PM
I have to agree... As pro military as I am.... I'm more pro-constitution... and while I believe there are certain things the public doesnt need to know... the US Gov has been out of control and we need more people like Snowden to help bring it back into equilibrium... the gov has no respect or fear of its citizens and is running rampant.

Unfortunatley I don't see balance coming.. the Gov is too good at manipulating the citizens.

Agreed.

Sad that people are just "OK" with the government doing whatever they want to.

The bottom line is that we the people are supposed to be the ones who decide whether he's a traitor or not and I can't seem to find 3 out of 4 people who think he did something to be penalized for.

He told WE THE PEOPLE what was going on... That's not treasonous, that's patriotic.

Our country is supposed to be spying on the enemies, not the citizens.
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: tu_holmes on February 01, 2014, 09:04:18 PM
And a couple of realists.

You may as well complain about gravity...or racism.

Accept the world you live in and make the best of it.

Some people out there like to make a mark and change it.

Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Palpatine Q on February 01, 2014, 09:09:12 PM
Agreed.

Sad that people are just "OK" with the government doing whatever they want to.

The bottom line is that we the people are supposed to be the ones who decide whether he's a traitor or not and I can't seem to find 3 out of 4 people who think he did something to be penalized for.

He told WE THE PEOPLE what was going on... That's not treasonous, that's patriotic.

Our country is supposed to be spying on the enemies, not the citizens.

I  Agree 100%

Heres my thing...no wiseass...what can anyone do about it ?

Vote Republican ?  LOLOLOL.
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: agenda21nwo on February 01, 2014, 09:09:28 PM
Some people out there like to make a mark and change it.



Groinks goal in life is to take low quality pictures of his muscles and post them on getbig.  AS long as his steroid supply is left alone, he is happy.
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Palpatine Q on February 01, 2014, 09:12:15 PM
Groinks goal in life is to take low quality pictures of his muscles and post them on getbig.  AS long as his steroid supply is left alone, he is happy.

And apparently yours is to whine about me
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: tu_holmes on February 01, 2014, 09:29:59 PM
I  Agree 100%

Heres my thing...no wiseass...what can anyone do about it ?

Vote Republican ?  LOLOLOL.

No... vote for NONE of those fuckers. Vote outside of the big two... shake it up.

I don't have it in me to just throw my hands up... can't help it.
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: agenda21nwo on February 01, 2014, 09:35:24 PM
No... vote for NONE of those fuckers. Vote outside of the big two... shake it up.

I don't have it in me to just throw my hands up... can't help it.

And support people who speak out so the big two are FORCED to change.
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: thebrink on February 02, 2014, 09:34:55 AM
No... vote for NONE of those fuckers. Vote outside of the big two... shake it up.

I don't have it in me to just throw my hands up... can't help it.

Exactly. Don't vote for the big 2
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: _bruce_ on February 02, 2014, 10:33:44 AM
The chance for people to again rule themselves, given they've ever pulled of such a feat, is slim.
Forging your destiny requires to know who you are, your concerns, obligations to yourself and others + have wit & guts.
I kinda agree with Schnauzer that the US is made out to be the bogey man when there's so many islamic shitholes all over the world(soon including parts of Europe) where you get stomped if you jump out of the line.

On the other hand the US has been slowly captured and its virtues and raw power misused and misguided against its own citizens and many others all over the globe.

World Wars, Solipsism and Internationalism have destroyed much of the west.


Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Voice of Doom on February 02, 2014, 10:39:54 AM
And a couple of realists.

You may as well complain about gravity...or racism.

Accept the world you live in and make the best of it.

"stay the course, do as your told, don't make waves, make the best of things"....the words of people who contribute nothing to the evolution of humanity.   But to each their own.
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Shockwave on February 02, 2014, 10:41:06 AM
The chance for people to again rule themselves, given they've ever pulled of such a feat, is slim.
Forging your destiny requires to know who you are, your concerns, obligations to yourself and others + have wit & guts.
I kinda agree with Schnauzer that the US is made out to be the bogey man when there's so many islamic shitholes all over the world(soon including parts of Europe) where you get stomped if you jump out of the line.

On the other hand the US has been slowly captured and its virtues and raw power misused and misguided against its own citizens and many others all over the globe.

World Wars, Solipsism and Internationalism have destroyed much of the west.



Oh I agree with him that we are not nearly as bad as others make out... BUT, it has been steadily going backwards against the constitution and the citizens just dont care, or say "well were still the best!".... If we don't start trying to guide ourselves back on track, we'll be on the road to totalitarianism soon enough.
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Giovanni1443 on February 02, 2014, 10:50:37 AM
Edward Snowden is a hero some Americans are so brainwashed there is no point in debating with them !

FLUORIDE !
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: thebrink on February 02, 2014, 01:58:52 PM
Edward Snowden is a hero some Americans are so brainwashed there is no point in debating with them !

FLUORIDE !

Yep the media and the idea of chauvinism has really got ahold of their brains.
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Roger Bacon on February 02, 2014, 02:02:01 PM
I have to agree... As pro military as I am.... I'm more pro-constitution... and while I believe there are certain things the public doesnt need to know... the US Gov has been out of control and we need more people like Snowden to help bring it back into equilibrium... the gov has no respect or fear of its citizens and is running rampant.

Unfortunatley I don't see balance coming.. the Gov is too good at manipulating the citizens.

Yes, I can't see how anyone could think a guy that outed such massive government crimes could be a traitor.

He deserves a fucking award.
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Schnauzer on February 02, 2014, 02:06:55 PM
Yes, I can't see how anyone could think a guy that outed such massive government crimes could be a traitor.

He deserves a fucking award.

What "massive crimes"? People here keep repeating the same platitudes ad nauseum with no facts.



December 27, 2013 - A federal judge ruled on Friday that the National Security Agency's bulk collection of millions of Americans' telephone and Internet records is legal and a critical component of the country's effort to combat the threat of terrorism.

In the 54-page opinion issued in New York, U.S. District Judge William Pauley said the sweeping program "represents the government's counter-punch" to eliminate al-Qaeda's terror network by connecting fragmented and fleeting communications.

"There is no evidence that the Government has used any of the bulk telephony metadata it collected for any purpose other than investigating and disrupting terrorist attacks," he wrote.

The judge further maintained that the program, which sucks up vast amounts of data, is subject to executive and congressional oversight as well as monitoring by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/12/27/new-york-nsa-phone-surveillance/4219055/   (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/12/27/new-york-nsa-phone-surveillance/4219055/)
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: thebrink on February 02, 2014, 02:07:30 PM
Yes, I can't see how anyone could think a guy that outed such massive government crimes could be a traitor.

He deserves a fucking award.

Because they are told by the media to think this way. Thats how powerful they are.
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Roger Bacon on February 02, 2014, 02:20:32 PM
What "massive crimes"? People here keep repeating the same platitudes ad nauseum with no facts.



December 27, 2013 - A federal judge ruled on Friday that the National Security Agency's bulk collection of millions of Americans' telephone and Internet records is legal and a critical component of the country's effort to combat the threat of terrorism.
In the 54-page opinion issued in New York, U.S. District Judge William Pauley said the sweeping program "represents the government's counter-punch" to eliminate al-Qaeda's terror network by connecting fragmented and fleeting communications.

"There is no evidence that the Government has used any of the bulk telephony metadata it collected for any purpose other than investigating and disrupting terrorist attacks," he wrote.

The judge further maintained that the program, which sucks up vast amounts of data, is subject to executive and congressional oversight as well as monitoring by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/12/27/new-york-nsa-phone-surveillance/4219055/   (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/12/27/new-york-nsa-phone-surveillance/4219055/)

His leaks revealed much more than that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Schnauzer on February 02, 2014, 02:28:04 PM
His leaks revealed much more than that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

Again, no facts, but a Wiki on the definition of the 4th Amendment. In September 2013 Judge Claire Eagan issued an opinion on NSA surveillance:


Judge Eagan’s legal analysis starts with a Fourth Amendment discussion that, while entirely unsurprising to anyone with any kind of background in modern Fourth Amendment law, will probably surprise some people who have loudly denounced NSA’s activity. Many critics of NSA’s programs casually throw around the allegation that this sort of collection implicates—or shreds—the Fourth Amendment. But Judge Eagan clearly regards Section 215 as not presenting a close question under the law. The Fourth Amendment does not bar the government’s proposed collection of telephony metadata, she writes, because the production “is squarely controlled by” Smith v. Maryland, in which the Supreme Court held that it was not a search for the government to install a pen register on telephone company equipment to capture non-content data concerning telephone calls. An individual has no legitimate expectation of privacy with respect to telephone numbers he dialed and thereby conveyed to the company, the Supreme Court concluded in Smith. Judge Eagan concludes that if metadata does not implicate an individual’s Fourth Amendment privacy interest in his telephony metadata, neither does the bulk collection of metadata about numerous persons. She writes, “where one individual does not have a Fourth Amendment interest, grouping together a large number of similarly-situated individuals cannot result in a Fourth Amendment interest springing into existence ex nihilo.”

 http://www.lawfareblog.com/2013/09/congress-has-no-clothes-a-quick-and-dirty-summary-of-the-new-fisc-opinion/#.Uu7FwPldXh4  (http://www.lawfareblog.com/2013/09/congress-has-no-clothes-a-quick-and-dirty-summary-of-the-new-fisc-opinion/#.Uu7FwPldXh4)
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Schnauzer on February 02, 2014, 02:35:08 PM
His leaks revealed much more than that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution


January 29, 2014 - WASHINGTON (AP) — Two congressmen say a classified Pentagon report on former National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden says most of the documents he took concerned current military operations.

House Intelligence Chairman Mike Rogers, R-Mich., and ranking Democrat C.A. Dutch Ruppersberger of Maryland say Snowden tipped off U.S. enemies to spying methods used to defend the country, and potentially jeopardized U.S. troops overseas.

They say the classified report by the Defense Intelligence Agency found that Snowden stole approximately 1.7 million intelligence files that “concern vital operations of the U.S. Army, Navy, Marine Corps, and Air Force.”

  http://www.salon.com/2014/01/09/lawmakers_snowdens_leaks_may_endanger_us_troops/  (http://www.salon.com/2014/01/09/lawmakers_snowdens_leaks_may_endanger_us_troops/)
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Roger Bacon on February 02, 2014, 02:36:38 PM
His leaks weren't limited to telephone meta data. Although lots of people would still argue that that's still a clear violation of the Constitution. It's convenient how they can reinterpret to infringe on our rights, we've s3en that happen a lot with the Second Ammendment.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2014/01/03/the-three-types-of-nsa-snooping-that-edward-snowden-revealed/
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Roger Bacon on February 02, 2014, 02:39:58 PM
"Edward Snowden Is a Patriot": Ex-NSA CIA, FBI and Justice Whistleblowers Meet Leaker in Moscow

(http://benswann.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/article-2451778-18A7E3C100000578-665_634x382.jpg)

The Sam Adams Associates Integrity and Intelligence Award is given each year by a group of retired CIA officers. It is given to an individual who takes a stand against abuse of information gathering. Many of the award’s past recipients have been whistleblowers — in fact, the award itself is named after Vietnam whistleblower Samuel A. Adams. Wikileak’s Julian Assange received the award in 2010.


http://benswann.com/ed-snowden-emerges-from-hiding-to-receive-award-father-lon-snowden-makes-trip-to-russia/
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: DroppingPlates on February 03, 2014, 08:33:57 AM
He should join Getbig to make some knuckleheads aware of the fact that they life in a police state.
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Schnauzer on February 03, 2014, 08:43:36 AM
He should join Getbig to make some knuckleheads aware of the fact that they life in a police state.

Only a knucklehead would think the US is a "police state"  ::)
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: DroppingPlates on February 03, 2014, 08:51:01 AM
Only a knucklehead would think the US is a "police state"  ::)

Not a matter of thinking, conditioned good citizen..
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: thebrink on February 03, 2014, 05:30:32 PM
Only a knucklehead would think the US is a "police state"  ::)

lol
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: agenda21nwo on February 04, 2014, 04:32:16 AM
Schnauzer, wipe your boss's cum of your shirt, and don't rush home, because the next door neighbor is fucking your wife.
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: falco on February 04, 2014, 06:48:31 AM
How can he be acused of treason if he told the truth to the american people. Who did he betrayed? Certainlly not americans.
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: thebrink on February 04, 2014, 02:26:23 PM
How can he be acused of treason if he told the truth to the american people. Who did he betrayed? Certainlly not americans.

exactly
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: TrueGrit on February 04, 2014, 05:43:36 PM
I wonder if Putin listens to his phone calls?
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Novena on February 04, 2014, 05:48:06 PM
Of course he does!
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: James28 on February 04, 2014, 11:05:10 PM
No... vote for NONE of those fuckers. Vote outside of the big two... shake it up.

I don't have it in me to just throw my hands up... can't help it.

Vote outside the big two? Hahahahahahaha

As if people have it in them to do that. I'll put my fucking LIFE on it that if ten 'rebels' on Getbig claim they'll vote for a 3rd party, nine of them will pussy out and go back sucking on Repub/Democrat teats. They won't bring themselves to do. They can't. You think the Big Two don't know this?

Listen, I don't mean this loosely when I say that people are fucking idiots. They take marching orders from the media. Any new thoughts or ideas frighten them. Hey, it's a shitty deal but at least they know what they're getting under a Repub/Democrat adminstration.

I can't say this any more sincere, from the true bottom of my soul, I'd rather hack my own dick off before listening to what the media says on politics.

But people do, and that's why the same lot always get voted in.
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: JBGRAY on February 05, 2014, 01:15:59 AM
The government is more powerful than you....side with the more powerful faction.
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: tu_holmes on February 05, 2014, 01:36:32 AM
Vote outside the big two? Hahahahahahaha

As if people have it in them to do that. I'll put my fucking LIFE on it that if ten 'rebels' on Getbig claim they'll vote for a 3rd party, nine of them will pussy out and go back sucking on Repub/Democrat teats. They won't bring themselves to do. They can't. You think the Big Two don't know this?

Listen, I don't mean this loosely when I say that people are fucking idiots. They take marching orders from the media. Any new thoughts or ideas frighten them. Hey, it's a shitty deal but at least they know what they're getting under a Repub/Democrat adminstration.

I can't say this any more sincere, from the true bottom of my soul, I'd rather hack my own dick off before listening to what the media says on politics.

But people do, and that's why the same lot always get voted in.

I don't know what to say... You get the government you deserve I suppose.

I voted for Gary Johnson in 2012 and will certainly and ALWAYS vote  for an independent or 3rd party candidate from here on out.
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: mass243 on February 05, 2014, 05:22:18 AM
I wonder if Putin listens to his phone calls?

(http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4823/2144/320/VladimirPutinHeadphones.jpg)
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: TrueGrit on February 05, 2014, 10:29:53 AM
(http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4823/2144/320/VladimirPutinHeadphones.jpg)


Love the camp expression.
Title: Re: New Snowden interview, media blackout
Post by: Nails on April 28, 2016, 09:40:36 AM
SNOWDEN - trailer - Another Nicolas Cage blockbuster