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Title: The Smith machine
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 11, 2014, 09:23:21 AM
 ;D


Title: Re: The Smith machine
Post by: Man of Steel on February 11, 2014, 09:53:10 AM
I love the smith machine LOL.
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Post by: Ronnie Rep on February 11, 2014, 10:00:57 AM
My favorite piece of equipment :)
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Post by: gracie bjj on February 11, 2014, 11:05:16 AM
im a huge smith fan also
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Post by: Grape Ape on February 11, 2014, 11:06:04 AM
hate the smith machine
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Post by: CalvinH on February 11, 2014, 11:08:11 AM
Groink loves the Smiths.
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Post by: affeman on February 11, 2014, 11:12:04 AM
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Post by: Princess L on February 11, 2014, 12:35:49 PM
;D





Practice sloth hanging   lol  ;D


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Title: Re: The Smith machine
Post by: local hero on February 11, 2014, 12:36:42 PM
i prefer the smythe, dogcrapp style
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Post by: Fortress on February 11, 2014, 12:47:09 PM
Hilarious!

And for the record, the Smith machine is one of the best pieces of equipment if injury is your end game.
Title: Re: The Smith machine
Post by: funk51 on February 11, 2014, 01:00:04 PM
;D



pic'd is the inventor of the smith machine rudy smith [were you expecting jones] pic underneath is the vince gironda version pipe smith mach.
Title: Re: The Smith machine
Post by: funk51 on February 11, 2014, 01:02:24 PM
next to pic is the weider version  called the multi-press ubit 29.95 back in the day.
Title: Re: The Smith machine
Post by: funk51 on February 11, 2014, 01:04:18 PM
about a month ago a guy on ironhistory.com gave one away for free. here's the pic.
Title: Re: The Smith machine
Post by: hazbin on February 11, 2014, 01:11:56 PM
I built myself one of these in highschool shop when I was a kid.   its amazing how many things you can do on one when you are young and motivated

Coach, that vertical leg press has been sitting out in the snow on my acreage since we talked about it a couple years ago.  I'm guessing it Is pretty much ruined by now.
Title: Re: The Smith machine
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 11, 2014, 01:30:36 PM
I built myself one of these in highschool shop when I was a kid.   its amazing how many things you can do on one when you are young and motivated

Coach, that vertical leg press has been sitting out in the snow on my acreage since we talked about it a couple years ago.  I'm guessing it Is pretty much ruined by now.

 ??? I didn't hear back from you on that so I figured you didn't want to get rid of it. Damn!
Title: Re: The Smith machine
Post by: oldtimer1 on February 11, 2014, 01:30:46 PM
Just a couple of points with the smith machine. One is the obvious. You have to subtract about 35 lbs from what ever you do on one with the counter weights.

These two are the big ones concerning safety. Yes, spin the bar and it will catch. You can also set the lowest height of travel safety bars. The part that could get you killed is if you are benching or incline benching and you touch your chest and get stuck you might not be at the right height for the twist catch to catch. You might need another 3 to 4 inches travel for the catch and if you are stuck you are in trouble if no one is around.

Lastly, you could tip over the entire unit squatting. Generally is happens with heavy weights. Just using 2 or 3 45lbs on each side on a quality unit isn't to bad but it can still happen. When you squat you don't push the bar in a completely perpendicular path that the smith machine requires. Shoving the bar forward or backward could tip the entire unit. The injuries could be horrific.
Title: Re: The Smith machine
Post by: The_Punisher on February 11, 2014, 01:32:37 PM
hate the smith machine

Amen....that shit hurts my shoulder when doing any type of bench pressing....I like smith only for squating
Title: Re: The Smith machine
Post by: hazbin on February 11, 2014, 05:03:44 PM
??? I didn't hear back from you on that so I figured you didn't want to get rid of it. Damn!

damn bro.   last thing I texted you was to get a shipping company to give you a quote on delivery.  I didn't want anything from you for it. I figured the shipping was high and you decided it wasn't worth it.   sorry for the miscommunication. 
Title: Re: The Smith machine
Post by: Shockwave on February 11, 2014, 07:51:14 PM
I use it once in a while for military presses when everything else is booked up.

We don't have a barbell military press station at our gym, it's fucking gay.
Title: Re: The Smith machine
Post by: bigkid on February 11, 2014, 08:36:47 PM
I don't mind using the smith.  I train alone, Clubber Lang style so it's easier then asking some queef for a spot on a free barbell.
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Post by: HavoX on February 11, 2014, 11:12:23 PM
I use it for heavy curls
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Post by: Vince B on February 11, 2014, 11:30:57 PM
Ah, the Smith machine. The original machine solved the problem of not binding by having both sides locked by chains and sprockets. I never liked that so devised a version in 1982 in my factory that used linear motion bearings. No sprockets or chains were necessary. Now everyone uses linear motion bearings. I believe I was the first to solve this problem with these bearings.

Someone improved the machine by having a slight angle. When you do squats, presses and bench presses you don't go in a straight line but a curve. The angle of about 10 degrees makes a big difference. I also used stainless steel for the bar which had an internal high tensile steel bar. Pins were covered in polyurethane so there was no metal to metal contact. The machine that I made stopped just before your neck if you were bench pressing. So you couldn't get trapped in that exercise. All the bench presses, inclines and declines in my gym have safety catches so one can't impact ones face while using them.

The machine I made in the photo is probably the best such machine ever made. It has quality stainless steel parts. A chinning station, foot rest, and is angled at 10 degrees.
Title: Re: The Smith machine
Post by: SF1900 on February 11, 2014, 11:31:56 PM
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Title: Re: The Smith machine
Post by: SF1900 on February 11, 2014, 11:34:31 PM
Ah, the Smith machine. The original machine solved the problem of not binding by having both sides locked by chains and sprockets. I never liked that so devised a version in 1982 in my factory that used linear motion bearings. No sprockets or chains were necessary. Now everyone uses linear motion bearings. I believe I was the first to solve this problem with these bearings.

Someone improved the machine by having a slight angle. When you do squats, presses and bench presses you don't go in a straight line but a curve. The angle of about 10 degrees makes a big difference. I also used stainless steel for the bar which had an internal high tensile steel bar. Pins were covered in polyurethane so there was no metal to metal contact. The machine that I made stopped just before your neck if you were bench pressing. So you couldn't get trapped in that exercise. All the bench presses, inclines and declines in my gym have safety catches so one can't impact ones face while using them.

The machine I made in the photo is probably the best such machine ever made. It has quality stainless steel parts. A chinning station, foot rest, and is angled at 10 degrees.  



What about this bicep machine?

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Title: Re: The Smith machine
Post by: Vince B on February 11, 2014, 11:55:17 PM
The biceps-supinator is in my factory in pieces. Will have the arm assemblies bolted to the frame so it can easily go through doorways. Will adjust the action for the 3rd time. Have to get it right.
Title: Re: The Smith machine
Post by: Powerlift66 on February 12, 2014, 02:05:35 AM
about a month ago a guy on ironhistory.com gave one away for free. here's the pic.

Funk.. It just came in yesterday from Mike (he sent it to me), nice collector piece. Not a useable thing though (luckily)  ;D
Title: Re: The Smith machine
Post by: Henda on February 12, 2014, 02:44:20 AM
I like the one that slopes backwards.
Use it after free weights rather than instead of,eg high rep smith squats to a box set at parallell are great way to finish leg workout.
Title: Re: The Smith machine
Post by: Mr. MB on February 12, 2014, 07:47:34 AM
In the early-mid 1950s the Bert Goodrich Gym in Hollywood, Ca. had a pipe rack vertical press machine. The actor Bill Smith hogged it all the time. So it became known as "Smith's Machine". Bill went over to Gironda's Gym and Vince built a similar pipe rack "Smith Machine". From there it spread from coast to coast and others refined it with patents.

The pic on page one here of the pipe rack machine is with Bill Smith pressing it.

I was there.


Title: Re: The Smith machine
Post by: Mr. MB on February 12, 2014, 09:07:19 AM
Bill Smith became a fixture at Vince's Gym. Later Bill was noted for the his epic fight scene with Clint Eastwood in the second oragatang Which Way movie.


Title: Re: The Smith machine
Post by: Man of Steel on February 12, 2014, 11:31:26 AM
I remain 100% pro-smith machine.
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Post by: dr.chimps on February 12, 2014, 11:39:43 AM
I remain 100% pro-smith machine.
So like you: making everything political.      ;D
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Post by: funk51 on February 12, 2014, 12:03:05 PM
Bill Smith became a fixture at Vince's Gym. Later Bill was noted for the his epic fight scene with Clint Eastwood in the second oragatang Which Way movie.



i thought the fight scene in darker than amber was good too.there was genuine heat between bill and rod taylor. according to bill both actors sustained injuries shooting this climatic scene.
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Post by: wild willie on February 12, 2014, 12:04:24 PM
I dig the smith machine......I use it for incline presses......shoulder presses......and squats.
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Post by: Simple Simon on February 12, 2014, 12:05:36 PM
Bill Smith became a fixture at Vince's Gym. Later Bill was noted for the his epic fight scene with Clint Eastwood in the second oragatang Which Way movie.



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Title: Re: The Smith machine
Post by: funk51 on February 12, 2014, 12:07:07 PM
Funk.. It just came in yesterday from Mike (he sent it to me), nice collector piece. Not a useable thing though (luckily)  ;D
it didn't look too  safe dave  . but it was a piece of ironhistory. i just trashed 3 pieces to make room for some new stuff, maybe i should have offered it up if anyone wanted it. didn't think of it at the time. i got a good price on a large unit and needed the room quick.
Title: Re: The Smith machine
Post by: Benjamin_pearson on February 13, 2014, 04:34:53 PM
;D




Catch serious question what's david spades opinion n the smith machine.... And more importantly what does jay glazier think of cross fit???