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Title: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
Post by: warez4gold on February 19, 2014, 04:39:11 PM
drug free? or, on gear?



Summary:

640x4 Squat @ BW of around 200-210 lbs.

Title: Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
Post by: nasht5 on February 19, 2014, 04:44:56 PM
she looks drug free.
Title: Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
Post by: warez4gold on February 19, 2014, 04:46:03 PM
she looks drug free.

(http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130925101957/powerlisting/images/a/a9/I-see-what-you-did-there.jpg)
Title: Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
Post by: warez4gold on February 19, 2014, 04:57:36 PM
mark bell recently squatted 675 for a single (open gear user)

(<---mark bell squat video)

kid in video (original post) squats 640 for 5 and claims lifetime natty

dafuq?
Title: Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
Post by: Nails on February 19, 2014, 05:00:50 PM
yes
Title: Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
Post by: nasht5 on February 19, 2014, 05:22:40 PM
mark bell doesn't worrry about his raw squat max because he competes in gear (squat suit & briefs) so he doesn't train for a high raw squat.

it is possible that this kid can squat 640lbs for reps.
Title: Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
Post by: BB on February 19, 2014, 05:38:12 PM
The recent raw record in the #198 class is #760, at #220, it's #854. Think about that.

Not by the hairs on Denise Rutkowski's chinny, chin, chin is that kid a nat.




Title: Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
Post by: warez4gold on February 19, 2014, 05:49:53 PM
The recent raw record in the #198 class is #760, at #220, it's #854. Think about that.

Not by the hairs on Denise Rutkowski's chinny, chin, chin is that kid a nat.






according to this formula that jim wendler uses to calculate "estimated 1RMs", {[640(4)]0.03333} + 640 = 725

this means that this kid's raw squat estimated 1RM is 725 lbs at a meet; assuming he pulls it off on meet day.

if your info is correct, this would put him very close to the world record in the federation, which i highly doubt was set by a lifetime natty lifter.  thank you for knocking some sense into the masses bro!
Title: Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
Post by: warez4gold on February 19, 2014, 05:51:22 PM
mark bell doesn't worrry about his raw squat max because he competes in gear (squat suit & briefs) so he doesn't train for a high raw squat.

it is possible that this kid can squat 640lbs for reps.

@nasht5, mark competes as a raw lifter now.  he doesn't compete or train in suits or briefs anymore.
Title: Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
Post by: Schnauzer on February 19, 2014, 05:51:25 PM
Ben Rice is natural, but I thought he was an old black man

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_X0ImYnn69r8/TDTYkaCuWWI/AAAAAAAAFFI/C-gv_isA4Tc/s1600/BIB-WGB-Image.jpg)
Title: Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
Post by: warez4gold on February 19, 2014, 05:53:31 PM
those calculations are absolutely horse shit

no calculation for this stuff

you don't squat heavy and you don't train like a powerlifter and you ask us if you should squat now after a 2 year hiatus.  i've tried this formula many times and it pretty close to being accurate.  obvs its not 100%, but it does work.

just post on bodybuilding topics bro, you don't know anything about lifting heavy weights. 

its almost 6 pm pst, isn't it time for your next injection?
Title: Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
Post by: warez4gold on February 19, 2014, 05:54:44 PM
Ben Rice is natural, but I thought he was an old black man

you don't think it's possible that he is lying to his subs?  he makes money off youtube views.  why wouldn't he use gear?
Title: Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
Post by: Schnauzer on February 19, 2014, 05:57:03 PM
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you don't think it's possible that he is lying to his subs?  he makes money off youtube views.  why wouldn't he use gear?
 

Yes, this kid is juiced to the gills

(http://www.lift.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/ben.jpg)
Title: Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
Post by: Mawse on February 19, 2014, 05:58:24 PM
 Lance Armstrong was using AAS too and he had 11" arms.

Not every sauced up powerlifter looks like sam byrd.

But hey, people believe Layne Nerdton is naturally squatting 600 for reps so who am I to judge?

The only thing this proves is that neckbeards who keep parroting that Power Lifting is The Key To Massive Size need to STFU (although they would probably say it's because the kid didn't drink enough whole milk)
Title: Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
Post by: warez4gold on February 19, 2014, 05:58:36 PM
Yes, this kid is juiced to the gills

maybe he just responds to drugs like anabolichalo
Title: Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
Post by: BB on February 19, 2014, 05:59:01 PM
.

Does a dodgy #705 here in his best meet, but still has a #1830 total.
Title: Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
Post by: Schnauzer on February 19, 2014, 06:03:15 PM
Lance Armstrong was using AAS too and he had 11" arms.

Not every sauced up powerlifter looks like sam byrd.

But hey, people believe Layne Nerdton is naturally squatting 600 for reps so who am I to judge?

The only thing this proves is that neckbeards who keep parroting that Power Lifting is The Key To Massive Size need to STFU (although they would probably say it's because the kid didn't drink enough whole milk)

Sure, but Lance was also riding over 100 miles per day
Title: Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
Post by: sean on February 19, 2014, 10:09:27 PM
Ive seen 1030 for 3 reps once. A little high and yes, he was natural. I guess not everyone has been fortunate to be around naturally strong people that apply themselves to weights. 
Title: Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
Post by: cephissus on February 19, 2014, 10:37:27 PM
Ive seen 1030 for 3 reps once. A little high and yes, he was natural. I guess not everyone has been fortunate to be around naturally strong people that apply themselves to weights. 

I actually laughed out loud at this post
Title: Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
Post by: FermiDirac on February 19, 2014, 11:12:59 PM
Yes, this kid is juiced to the gills

(http://www.lift.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/ben.jpg)

In addition, sponsored by Universal? No respectable supplement company would sponsor a natty.  >:(
Title: Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
Post by: Liftingformass on February 20, 2014, 12:12:26 AM
I live in Washington and have trained with Ben on a number of occasions and have followed his progress for a few years now. He is definitely lifetime drug free. He has always trained for progress and never has taken any focus from progressing his lifts.
Title: Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
Post by: FermiDirac on February 20, 2014, 12:27:28 AM
I live in Washington and have trained with Ben on a number of occasions and have followed his progress for a few years now. He is definitely lifetime drug free. He has always trained for progress and never has taken any focus from progressing his lifts.

And any respectable roider wouldn't have the same goal?  ::)
Title: Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
Post by: Liftingformass on February 20, 2014, 12:33:11 AM
Not implying that at all. Just vouching for him that he has always kept his focus on getting stronger.
Title: Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
Post by: Dr.J on February 20, 2014, 01:54:36 AM
Its only possible if you want it to be possible.
Title: Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
Post by: The Grim Lifter on February 20, 2014, 02:34:03 AM
I live in Washington and have trained with Ben on a number of occasions and have followed his progress for a few years now. He is definitely lifetime drug free. He has always trained for progress and never has taken any focus from progressing his lifts.

Hi Ben welcome to getbig
Title: Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
Post by: MONSTER_TRICEPS on February 20, 2014, 05:38:56 AM
 :D drug free for life, eat heavy, making it happen

Title: Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
Post by: falco on February 20, 2014, 06:39:48 AM
I live in Washington and have trained with Ben on a number of occasions and have followed his progress for a few years now. He is definitely lifetime drug free. He has always trained for progress and never has taken any focus from progressing his lifts.

But off course you live and trained and followed.
Title: Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
Post by: forillagorilla on February 20, 2014, 06:44:48 AM
No - absolutely not. The only way anyone gains any muscle or lifts more than a girl is by using steroids. If anyone doesn't look like a you and actually has muscle there is no possible way they did it - and it IS your fucking business as to absolutely everything they use - who do these drug junkies think they are with the whole privacy crap. You look like a little slob ONLY because you are not all drugged up - NOT because you are weak willed.
I am glad you have questioned this - man SOMEBODY needs to be asking the tough questions
Title: Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
Post by: oldgolds on February 20, 2014, 07:23:10 AM
Definitely looks drug free to me.
Title: Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
Post by: cephissus on February 21, 2014, 07:37:01 PM
No - absolutely not. The only way anyone gains any muscle or lifts more than a girl is by using steroids. If anyone doesn't look like a you and actually has muscle there is no possible way they did it - and it IS your fucking business as to absolutely everything they use - who do these drug junkies think they are with the whole privacy crap. You look like a little slob ONLY because you are not all drugged up - NOT because you are weak willed.
I am glad you have questioned this - man SOMEBODY needs to be asking the tough questions

I'm guessing you're under 6ft
Title: Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
Post by: nasht5 on February 22, 2014, 10:02:39 AM
@nasht5, mark competes as a raw lifter now.  he doesn't compete or train in suits or briefs anymore.

And Mark has also lost a lot of weight as well. Yes he's out of gear so now his hips/glutes have to get stronger while he squats in the hole. losing weight also can sap strength.

I think the kid in the vid could be drug free. certainly not enough evidence to suggest otherwise.