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Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
« on: February 19, 2014, 04:39:11 PM »
drug free? or, on gear?



Summary:

640x4 Squat @ BW of around 200-210 lbs.


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Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2014, 04:44:56 PM »
she looks drug free.
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Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2014, 04:46:03 PM »

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Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2014, 04:57:36 PM »
mark bell recently squatted 675 for a single (open gear user)

(<---mark bell squat video)

kid in video (original post) squats 640 for 5 and claims lifetime natty

dafuq?

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Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2014, 05:00:50 PM »
yes

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Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2014, 05:22:40 PM »
mark bell doesn't worrry about his raw squat max because he competes in gear (squat suit & briefs) so he doesn't train for a high raw squat.

it is possible that this kid can squat 640lbs for reps.
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Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2014, 05:38:12 PM »
The recent raw record in the #198 class is #760, at #220, it's #854. Think about that.

Not by the hairs on Denise Rutkowski's chinny, chin, chin is that kid a nat.





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Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2014, 05:49:53 PM »
The recent raw record in the #198 class is #760, at #220, it's #854. Think about that.

Not by the hairs on Denise Rutkowski's chinny, chin, chin is that kid a nat.






according to this formula that jim wendler uses to calculate "estimated 1RMs", {[640(4)]0.03333} + 640 = 725

this means that this kid's raw squat estimated 1RM is 725 lbs at a meet; assuming he pulls it off on meet day.

if your info is correct, this would put him very close to the world record in the federation, which i highly doubt was set by a lifetime natty lifter.  thank you for knocking some sense into the masses bro!

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Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2014, 05:51:22 PM »
mark bell doesn't worrry about his raw squat max because he competes in gear (squat suit & briefs) so he doesn't train for a high raw squat.

it is possible that this kid can squat 640lbs for reps.

@nasht5, mark competes as a raw lifter now.  he doesn't compete or train in suits or briefs anymore.

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Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2014, 05:51:25 PM »
Ben Rice is natural, but I thought he was an old black man


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Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2014, 05:53:31 PM »
those calculations are absolutely horse shit

no calculation for this stuff

you don't squat heavy and you don't train like a powerlifter and you ask us if you should squat now after a 2 year hiatus.  i've tried this formula many times and it pretty close to being accurate.  obvs its not 100%, but it does work.

just post on bodybuilding topics bro, you don't know anything about lifting heavy weights. 

its almost 6 pm pst, isn't it time for your next injection?

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Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2014, 05:54:44 PM »
Ben Rice is natural, but I thought he was an old black man

you don't think it's possible that he is lying to his subs?  he makes money off youtube views.  why wouldn't he use gear?

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Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2014, 05:57:03 PM »
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you don't think it's possible that he is lying to his subs?  he makes money off youtube views.  why wouldn't he use gear?
 

Yes, this kid is juiced to the gills


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Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2014, 05:58:24 PM »
 Lance Armstrong was using AAS too and he had 11" arms.

Not every sauced up powerlifter looks like sam byrd.

But hey, people believe Layne Nerdton is naturally squatting 600 for reps so who am I to judge?

The only thing this proves is that neckbeards who keep parroting that Power Lifting is The Key To Massive Size need to STFU (although they would probably say it's because the kid didn't drink enough whole milk)

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Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2014, 05:58:36 PM »
Yes, this kid is juiced to the gills

maybe he just responds to drugs like anabolichalo

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Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2014, 05:59:01 PM »
.

Does a dodgy #705 here in his best meet, but still has a #1830 total.

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Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2014, 06:03:15 PM »
Lance Armstrong was using AAS too and he had 11" arms.

Not every sauced up powerlifter looks like sam byrd.

But hey, people believe Layne Nerdton is naturally squatting 600 for reps so who am I to judge?

The only thing this proves is that neckbeards who keep parroting that Power Lifting is The Key To Massive Size need to STFU (although they would probably say it's because the kid didn't drink enough whole milk)

Sure, but Lance was also riding over 100 miles per day

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Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2014, 10:09:27 PM »
Ive seen 1030 for 3 reps once. A little high and yes, he was natural. I guess not everyone has been fortunate to be around naturally strong people that apply themselves to weights. 

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Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2014, 10:37:27 PM »
Ive seen 1030 for 3 reps once. A little high and yes, he was natural. I guess not everyone has been fortunate to be around naturally strong people that apply themselves to weights. 

I actually laughed out loud at this post

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Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2014, 11:12:59 PM »
Yes, this kid is juiced to the gills



In addition, sponsored by Universal? No respectable supplement company would sponsor a natty.  >:(

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Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2014, 12:12:26 AM »
I live in Washington and have trained with Ben on a number of occasions and have followed his progress for a few years now. He is definitely lifetime drug free. He has always trained for progress and never has taken any focus from progressing his lifts.

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Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
« Reply #21 on: February 20, 2014, 12:27:28 AM »
I live in Washington and have trained with Ben on a number of occasions and have followed his progress for a few years now. He is definitely lifetime drug free. He has always trained for progress and never has taken any focus from progressing his lifts.

And any respectable roider wouldn't have the same goal?  ::)

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Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
« Reply #22 on: February 20, 2014, 12:33:11 AM »
Not implying that at all. Just vouching for him that he has always kept his focus on getting stronger.

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Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
« Reply #23 on: February 20, 2014, 01:54:36 AM »
Its only possible if you want it to be possible.
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Re: Is This Possible W/O Steroids?
« Reply #24 on: February 20, 2014, 02:34:03 AM »
I live in Washington and have trained with Ben on a number of occasions and have followed his progress for a few years now. He is definitely lifetime drug free. He has always trained for progress and never has taken any focus from progressing his lifts.

Hi Ben welcome to getbig