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Title: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 28, 2014, 04:49:09 PM
During the 2008 presidential campaign, Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin warned that if Senator Barack Obama were elected president, his "indecision" and "moral equivalence" may encourage Russia's Vladimir Putin to invade Ukraine.
 
Palin said then:
 

After the Russian Army invaded the nation of Georgia, Senator Obama's reaction was one of indecision and moral equivalence, the kind of response that would only encourage Russia's Putin to invade Ukraine next.
 
For those comments, she was mocked by the high-brow Foreign Policy magazine and its editor Blake Hounshell, who now is one of the editors of Politico magazine.
 
In light of recent events in Ukraine and concerns that Russia is getting its troops ready to cross the border into the neighboring nation, nobody seems to be laughing at or dismissing those comments now.
 
Hounshell wrote then that Palin's comments were "strange" and "this is an extremely far-fetched scenario."
 
"And given how Russia has been able to unsettle Ukraine's pro-Western government without firing a shot, I don't see why violence would be necessary to bring Kiev to heel," Hounshell dismissively wrote.
 
Palin made her remarks on the stump after Obama's running mate Joe Biden warned Obama supporters to "gird  your loins" if Obama is elected because international leaders may test or try to take advantage of him.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/02/28/Flashback-Palin-Mocked-in-2008-for-Warning-Putin-May-Invade-Ukraine-if-Obama-Elected-President
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: alabama ftw on February 28, 2014, 07:49:16 PM
Which newspaper did she read?
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: 240 is Back on February 28, 2014, 08:20:39 PM
she predicted something six years ago, and was mocked by some lib. 

Somehow she's "vindicated"?   

Hey, the football game score will be 21-17.   Mock me now.  I'm not gonna say WHEN we'll see this score, but when we do, I'm gonna laugh at all of you that mocked me when I said we'd see a 21-17 football game. 

Epic attempt by this news site to try to keep Palin relevant when she's essentially retired.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 28, 2014, 10:11:56 PM
she predicted something six years ago, and was mocked by some lib. 

Somehow she's "vindicated"?   

Hey, the football game score will be 21-17.   Mock me now.  I'm not gonna say WHEN we'll see this score, but when we do, I'm gonna laugh at all of you that mocked me when I said we'd see a 21-17 football game. 

Epic attempt by this news site to try to keep Palin relevant when she's essentially retired.

She's been right on a hell of a lot more than that.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: blacken700 on March 01, 2014, 06:06:28 AM
lol palin,the gift that keeps giving


Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: 240 is Back on March 01, 2014, 06:57:33 AM
She's been right on a hell of a lot more than that.

She's a pundit.  Her job is to frequently make predictions and guesses and "call for" things.  

I can list a dozen things she got wrong.  I can list a dozen things she "called for" that never happened.  I can go on and on about how "the person who knows more about energy than anyone else in the country" was duped into believing man caused climate change.  

But she's a pundit.  Her job is to make predictions and guesses all day long.  you can't hate on a pundit cause he/she is wrong - they HAVE to make predictions all the time.  It's what pundits do.  It's what politicians do too.  It's like the NFL hosts making predicitons on the games.  nobody mocks them when they get it wrong.  But nobody feels the need to throw them a parade when they get the pick correct.

The fact that someone has to write an article - to gloat because something Palin said 6 years ago ended up being accurate - is pretty sad by itself.  Ted Cruz gets shit right every day.  I don't see a need to gloat in 2020 because he was right this year - I hope in 2020 he's gearing up for re-election to the White House, and we dont have to go back 6 years to give him props for something.


Ugh, I don't know why repubs feel the need to continually tie themselves to palin.  There are FAR better repubs out there which represent the party in a better light.  To brag because "hey, she got one right!"... I dunno... I guess that's why a half-wit illegal kenyan like Obama was able to win the white house twice... as long as repubs tie their cart to palin, and ignore actual conservatives like ron paul, bachman, etc, we'll keep on seeing Dems win white houses and Repubs win predictions from 6 years ago.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: OzmO on March 01, 2014, 11:30:26 AM
Even a blind squirrel gets a nut occasionally
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 01, 2014, 04:58:43 PM
Even a blind squirrel gets a nut occasionally

She hasn't missed about her Obama predictions yet. Pretty sure Romney hasn't either.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: OzmO on March 01, 2014, 07:45:47 PM
She hasn't missed about her Obama predictions yet. Pretty sure Romney hasn't either.

All of them?
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: nasht5 on March 01, 2014, 07:55:29 PM
she predicted something six years ago, and was mocked by some lib. 

Somehow she's "vindicated"?   

Hey, the football game score will be 21-17.   Mock me now.  I'm not gonna say WHEN we'll see this score, but when we do, I'm gonna laugh at all of you that mocked me when I said we'd see a 21-17 football game. 

Epic attempt by this news site to try to keep Palin relevant when she's essentially retired.

your metaphor is soo flawed. she called it, deal with it. no need to point out your mistakes.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: 24KT on March 01, 2014, 08:57:14 PM
Sorry, Putin wasn't the one emboldened in this situation, ...but he appears to be taking care of business,
...just like President Lincoln did when a bunch of European Central bankers decided to fuel dissent, and finance rebellion in the Southern States back in the late 1800s.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: 24KT on March 01, 2014, 08:59:49 PM
your metaphor is soo flawed. she called it, deal with it. no need to point out your mistakes.

She didn't call shit! Puleaze! If she's such a damned oracle, why didn't she see the uprising in the Ukraine?
She only had to look outside her back porch.  ::)  ::)
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: 240 is Back on March 01, 2014, 09:36:44 PM
All of them?
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 01, 2014, 10:05:59 PM
Palin is a silent whistle for idiots.  This thread proves it.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 01, 2014, 10:13:38 PM
All of them?

Ok, MAYBE not all of them. Safer to say she was 95% correct. Lurker or 240 can't except it because they voted for Obama.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: 240 is Back on March 01, 2014, 10:21:28 PM
Ok, MAYBE not all of them. Safer to say she was 95% correct. Lurker or 240 can't except it because they voted for Obama.

“Yes, I could see this one from Alaska. I’m usually not one to Told-Ya-So, but I did, despite my accurate prediction being derided as ‘an extremely far-fetched scenario’ by the ‘high-brow’ Foreign Policy magazine,” she wrote. “Here’s what this ‘stupid’ ‘insipid woman’ predicted back in 2008.”

She's beyond annoying, beyond obnoxious.  I can't even begin to think of the words for just how badly she has hurt the GOP. 

Nine days before Mccain chose Palin, he held a FIVE POINT LEAD NATIONALLY OVER OBAMA.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/08/20/us-usa-poll-politics-idUSN1927197620080820

I guess I just see her still taking airtime from repubs that can actually win the white house.  All this does is re-energize some people with "oh man, she is so annoying" and remind moderate voters that yes, that annoying "told ya so" person is a republican.   

But hey, we can ask President Mccain about Palin's awesomeness. 
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 01, 2014, 10:33:42 PM
“Yes, I could see this one from Alaska. I’m usually not one to Told-Ya-So, but I did, despite my accurate prediction being derided as ‘an extremely far-fetched scenario’ by the ‘high-brow’ Foreign Policy magazine,” she wrote. “Here’s what this ‘stupid’ ‘insipid woman’ predicted back in 2008.”

She's beyond annoying, beyond obnoxious.  I can't even begin to think of the words for just how badly she has hurt the GOP. 

Nine days before Mccain chose Palin, he held a FIVE POINT LEAD NATIONALLY OVER OBAMA.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/08/20/us-usa-poll-politics-idUSN1927197620080820

I guess I just see her still taking airtime from repubs that can actually win the white house.  All this does is re-energize some people with "oh man, she is so annoying" and remind moderate voters that yes, that annoying "told ya so" person is a republican.   

But hey, we can ask President Mccain about Palin's awesomeness. 

Proven to be bullshit and of course the liberal media takes shit out of context or just blatantly lies. Get over it 240, the entire left are worthless, couldn't tell or admit the truth if they're lives depended on it with the exception of a few.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/02/28/Flashback-Palin-Mocked-in-2008-for-Warning-Putin-May-Invade-Ukraine-if-Obama-Elected-President

 http://dailycaller.com/2013/08/21/chomsky-palin-was-right-about-obamas-hopey-changey-gimmick/

http://www.bizpacreview.com/2013/07/31/howard-dean-admits-sarah-palin-was-right-on-death-panels-80721

We'll start there.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: Necrosis on March 02, 2014, 05:22:14 AM
She hasn't missed about her Obama predictions yet. Pretty sure Romney hasn't either.

Did you not watch the video? she is below average intelligence, she didn't even know what the fucking bush doctrine was, can't name a single fucking newspaper, thought Paul Revere was riding through the streets ringing bells and having a good time. She is an idiot who is told what to say and you are an idiot who is told what to believe. Look at the couric interview, ahaah healthcare, haha it's about job creation, shoring up the economy, healthcare reform to help shore up the economy. Does that make any modicum of sense? She was told to say shore up the economy.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: Necrosis on March 02, 2014, 05:30:59 AM
your metaphor is soo flawed. she called it, deal with it. no need to point out your mistakes.

It's not flawed you retard, she gets most of her predictions wrong, hence chance dictates that she may be corrrect. So while you are taking this one precidtion that is true (meaning 100% accuracy) you are avoiding all the other )0% she has dropped.

The prediction isn\t even clear, it's a fucking quasi statement.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: Necrosis on March 02, 2014, 05:33:54 AM
lol palin,the gift that keeps giving




When she is walking with couric and starts to makes shit up and after failing to name a single newspaper she goes on to defend the notion that Alaska isn't a foreign country as if that's what was implied. She is so full of shit. I am against the brigde, I am for it, I hate lobbyist, oh ya I hired one, why? Cus I am far away (aka thinks the phone and internet do not exist). If a guy in a fucking spacestation can stay up to date on current trends I am sure she can manage seems how she is paid for it.

She is dumb, she might be a nice lady but she is clearly stupid and I wish she would do a national IQ test to show everyone that her retarded child didn't fall to far from the tree.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 02, 2014, 10:34:14 AM
Did you not watch the video? she is below average intelligence, she didn't even know what the fucking bush doctrine was, can't name a single fucking newspaper, thought Paul Revere was riding through the streets ringing bells and having a good time. She is an idiot who is told what to say and you are an idiot who is told what to believe. Look at the couric interview, ahaah healthcare, haha it's about job creation, shoring up the economy, healthcare reform to help shore up the economy. Does that make any modicum of sense? She was told to say shore up the economy.

So is Coach.  Which explains why he "just doesn't get it" when it comes to seeing her stupidity.

"When you are dead, you don't know it.  Everyone else knows it and has to deal with it.  Same way when you are stupid."   :)
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: alabama ftw on March 02, 2014, 10:56:23 AM
So is Coach.  Which explains why he "just doesn't get it" when it comes to seeing her stupidity.

"When you are dead, you don't know it.  Everyone else knows it and has to deal with it.  Same way when you are stupid."   :)
Are you saying that coach is stupid? What a bald statement 8) Will you say that the sky is blue or that water is wet tomorrow?
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: RRKore on March 02, 2014, 11:12:22 AM
Ok, MAYBE not all of them. Safer to say she was 95% correct. Lurker or 240 can't except it because they voted for Obama.

They can't "except" it? 

I'm wondering how a sober adult who didn't drop out of elementary school can make this mistake...and I'm coming up empty. 

I'd bet dollars to doughnuts, though, that you move your lips when you read. 

Keep posting, Coach.  This place can always use a little more humor.




Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: StreetSoldier4U on March 02, 2014, 11:42:07 AM
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: bears on March 02, 2014, 11:56:16 AM
First off I don't know shit about whats going on in Russia to be honest.   

but i'm seeing one guy post about how Palin was actually right about something that she said and Blake Hounshell being wrong about something.  And in response, people point to things she was wrong about and saying that she's stupid.  It seems like there are two arguments going on here. 

is she stupid?  I don't know.  Would I vote for her?  No. 

but all i'm seeing is that some woman who many think is stupid and I wouldn't vote for was right about something and Blake Hounshell was wrong.  What exactly am I missing?   
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: Necrosis on March 02, 2014, 12:28:44 PM
First off I don't know shit about whats going on in Russia to be honest.   

but i'm seeing one guy post about how Palin was actually right about something that she said and Blake Hounshell being wrong about something.  And in response, people point to things she was wrong about and saying that she's stupid.  It seems like there are two arguments going on here. 

is she stupid?  I don't know.  Would I vote for her?  No. 

but all i'm seeing is that some woman who many think is stupid and I wouldn't vote for was right about something and Blake Hounshell was wrong.  What exactly am I missing?   

You are missing the general thrust of the thread my handicapped friend. The title "And to think the left made fun of her" implies that those jokes were unfounded, they were not, she was the orchestrator of the whole comedy. Secondly, that a prediction that while it may be good, isn't all that great when in context. Russia was likely to invade Ukraine due to the politicaly climate, not invade, but the sway of the Russians is strong in the former state. that is besides the point, the crux is that even if she is correct is says nothing about the left making fun or her, the left at all (coach is nuts) or that it has any bearing on anything in life. This in no way vindicates her and if coach thinks that this does somehow vindicate her self induced cocksack of a life.

She is a liar but in the worst way, she is also stupid. This creates lies that are easily dismissed, patently false or of such a gradious nature that due to the paucity of the correlation can be dismissed.

So there is no arguments in reality, she was right, great, she is an idiot, and everyone was right and still is right to mock her. I think she should be mocked and ridiculed until she shuts the fuck up. She is the worst type of person, a leach that preys on fears and has no underpinning virtues besides hedonistic tendencies.

TL:DR coach is possibly gay and certainly retarded.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: chadstallion on March 02, 2014, 01:32:51 PM
and we still make fun of her
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: OzmO on March 02, 2014, 02:55:18 PM
Ok, MAYBE not all of them. Safer to say she was 95% correct. Lurker or 240 can't except it because they voted for Obama.

95%?

You taken into account every prediction?   Can you list 19 predictions about OB that came true?

Exactly how predictions has she made since getting the nomination in 2007?
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: 240 is Back on March 02, 2014, 05:20:49 PM
95%?

You taken into account every prediction?   Can you list 19 predictions about OB that came true?

Exactly how predictions has she made since getting the nomination in 2007?


Almost 52% of the candidates she endorsed have won their office.  Granted, it was in the midst of tea party fervor when they were cleaning up... but almost 52 percent, that's pretty epic.  Not 50, not 51, but we're talking 51.56% of the people she endorsed have won.

if that's not a kingmaker, I don't know what it.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: blacken700 on March 02, 2014, 05:25:17 PM
Palin is a silent whistle for idiots.  This thread proves it.

THIS
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 02, 2014, 05:36:57 PM
95%?

You taken into account every prediction?   Can you list 19 predictions about OB that came true?

Exactly how predictions has she made since getting the nomination in 2007?

Do you really expect him to answer you?  If he does it will be with his usual drivel of "you just don't get it do you..?"
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: alabama ftw on March 02, 2014, 09:22:10 PM
95%?

You taken into account every prediction?   Can you list 19 predictions about OB that came true?

Exactly how predictions has she made since getting the nomination in 2007?
He will never answer that. He will as usual when he gets cornered plead the fifth or say "you just don't understand".
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on March 02, 2014, 09:45:19 PM
During the 2008 presidential campaign, Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin warned that if Senator Barack Obama were elected president, his "indecision" and "moral equivalence" may encourage Russia's Vladimir Putin to invade Ukraine.
 
Palin said then:
 

After the Russian Army invaded the nation of Georgia, Senator Obama's reaction was one of indecision and moral equivalence, the kind of response that would only encourage Russia's Putin to invade Ukraine next.
 
For those comments, she was mocked by the high-brow Foreign Policy magazine and its editor Blake Hounshell, who now is one of the editors of Politico magazine.
 
In light of recent events in Ukraine and concerns that Russia is getting its troops ready to cross the border into the neighboring nation, nobody seems to be laughing at or dismissing those comments now.
 
Hounshell wrote then that Palin's comments were "strange" and "this is an extremely far-fetched scenario."
 
"And given how Russia has been able to unsettle Ukraine's pro-Western government without firing a shot, I don't see why violence would be necessary to bring Kiev to heel," Hounshell dismissively wrote.
 
Palin made her remarks on the stump after Obama's running mate Joe Biden warned Obama supporters to "gird  your loins" if Obama is elected because international leaders may test or try to take advantage of him.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/02/28/Flashback-Palin-Mocked-in-2008-for-Warning-Putin-May-Invade-Ukraine-if-Obama-Elected-President


A broken clock is right twice a day.  It would not have made a difference who was in office because we would be in the same situation.  To say that Russia went into the Ukraine because of Obama being elected in office is quite possibly the most retarded thing ever said and still is.   

Sarah Palin is an idiot and a sore loser. 
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: 24KT on March 03, 2014, 03:01:49 AM

A broken clock is right twice a day.  It would not have made a difference who was in office because we would be in the same situation.  To say that Russia went into the Ukraine because of Obama being elected in office is quite possibly the most retarded thing ever said and still is.    

Sarah Palin is an idiot and a sore loser.  

X2

The Russians were destined to go into Ukraine, ...especially with so much NATO money backing unrest.
You'd think they would learn by now... Trying to f**k with Russians during the Olympics doesn't work.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: mik1111 on March 03, 2014, 04:50:29 AM
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
I was going to say the exact same thing
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 03, 2014, 07:05:47 AM
So where is dumb ass Coach at now?
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: alabama ftw on March 03, 2014, 07:51:42 AM
So where is dumb ass Coach at now?
He is too busy studying to get into Pat Robertson university. The only school where you flunk out if you get the answers right. He is going to be the first redneck in space.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: bears on March 03, 2014, 08:36:47 AM
You are missing the general thrust of the thread my handicapped friend. The title "And to think the left made fun of her" implies that those jokes were unfounded, they were not, she was the orchestrator of the whole comedy. Secondly, that a prediction that while it may be good, isn't all that great when in context. Russia was likely to invade Ukraine due to the politicaly climate, not invade, but the sway of the Russians is strong in the former state. that is besides the point, the crux is that even if she is correct is says nothing about the left making fun or her, the left at all (coach is nuts) or that it has any bearing on anything in life. This in no way vindicates her and if coach thinks that this does somehow vindicate her self induced cocksack of a life.

She is a liar but in the worst way, she is also stupid. This creates lies that are easily dismissed, patently false or of such a gradious nature that due to the paucity of the correlation can be dismissed.

So there is no arguments in reality, she was right, great, she is an idiot, and everyone was right and still is right to mock her. I think she should be mocked and ridiculed until she shuts the fuck up. She is the worst type of person, a leach that preys on fears and has no underpinning virtues besides hedonistic tendencies.

TL:DR coach is possibly gay and certainly retarded.

wow.  you really have a strong hatred for some woman on TV that you've never met.   
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: RRKore on March 03, 2014, 04:00:42 PM
wow.  you really have a strong hatred for some woman on TV that you've never met.   

Coach is on TV?

Just funnin'.

I think I agree with Bears here. 

Though Palin politically is just an opportunistic grifter and intellectual flyweight, seeming to profess a lot of anger towards her doesn't seem that appropriate, especially if you lean to the left politically. 

Personally, I'm happy McCain chose her -- It's highly unlikely that the old I-could-die-at-any-time McCain could ever win with that Alaskan phony by his side.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: Straw Man on March 03, 2014, 04:18:56 PM
During the 2008 presidential campaign, Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin warned that if Senator Barack Obama were elected president, his "indecision" and "moral equivalence" may encourage Russia's Vladimir Putin to invade Ukraine.
 
Palin said then:
 

After the Russian Army invaded the nation of Georgia, Senator Obama's reaction was one of indecision and moral equivalence, the kind of response that would only encourage Russia's Putin to invade Ukraine next.
 
For those comments, she was mocked by the high-brow Foreign Policy magazine and its editor Blake Hounshell, who now is one of the editors of Politico magazine.
 
In light of recent events in Ukraine and concerns that Russia is getting its troops ready to cross the border into the neighboring nation, nobody seems to be laughing at or dismissing those comments now.
 
Hounshell wrote then that Palin's comments were "strange" and "this is an extremely far-fetched scenario."
 
"And given how Russia has been able to unsettle Ukraine's pro-Western government without firing a shot, I don't see why violence would be necessary to bring Kiev to heel," Hounshell dismissively wrote.
 
Palin made her remarks on the stump after Obama's running mate Joe Biden warned Obama supporters to "gird  your loins" if Obama is elected because international leaders may test or try to take advantage of him.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/02/28/Flashback-Palin-Mocked-in-2008-for-Warning-Putin-May-Invade-Ukraine-if-Obama-Elected-President

Can you post the quote where she said that Ukranians would violently revolt against their own corrupt government and that their President would flee the country...and of course they would do all that because of Obama
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: bears on March 03, 2014, 04:25:04 PM
Coach is on TV?

Just funnin'.

I think I agree with Bears here. 

Though Palin politically is just an opportunistic grifter and intellectual flyweight, seeming to profess a lot of anger towards her doesn't seem that appropriate, especially if you lean to the left politically. 

Personally, I'm happy McCain chose her -- It's highly unlikely that the old I-could-die-at-any-time McCain could ever win with that Alaskan phony by his side.

she's never impressed me much.  which is why I don't get the animosity towards her.  usually you see people hating on someone because they're perceived as a threat.  I just don't get it with her.  I do believe deep down that it has something to do with the fact that most of us wanna fuck the shit out of her but know that we can't.  gotta admit it makes me hate her a little bit.  but not enough to rant about how much I hate her on getbig. 
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: StreetSoldier4U on March 03, 2014, 04:31:37 PM
she's never impressed me much.  which is why I don't get the animosity towards her.  usually you see people hating on someone because they're perceived as a threat.  I just don't get it with her.  I do believe deep down that it has something to do with the fact that most of us wanna fuck the shit out of her but know that we can't.  gotta admit it makes me hate her a little bit.  but not enough to rant about how much I hate her on getbig. 

My problem with her is that she doesn't come across as genuine at all.  Sure, she isn't the brightest bulb but what politician is
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: blacken700 on March 03, 2014, 04:33:41 PM
she's never impressed me much.  which is why I don't get the animosity towards her.  usually you see people hating on someone because they're perceived as a threat.  I just don't get it with her.  I do believe deep down that it has something to do with the fact that most of us wanna fuck the shit out of her but know that we can't.  gotta admit it makes me hate her a little bit.  but not enough to rant about how much I hate her on getbig. 

speak for yourself,she does nothing for me
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: headhuntersix on March 03, 2014, 04:49:28 PM
My problem with her is that she doesn't come across as genuine at all.  Sure, she isn't the brightest bulb but what politician is

I feel the same way......
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: RRKore on March 03, 2014, 06:30:58 PM
My problem with her is that she doesn't come across as genuine at all.  Sure, she isn't the brightest bulb but what politician is

A+ post. 

It's maddening that anyone would trust her.  Reminds me of that elementary school teacher that would completely pull the wool over your mom's eyes by acting convivial during any kind of teacher/parent night even though every kid knew she was an evil bullying bitch when no other adults were around.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: Mr.1derful on March 03, 2014, 06:41:43 PM
X2

The Russians were destined to go into Ukraine, ...especially with so much NATO money backing unrest.
You'd think they would learn by now... Trying to f**k with Russians during the Olympics doesn't work.


Putin teaching US and NATO how to draw a real red line.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 03, 2014, 06:53:50 PM
A+ post. 

It's maddening that anyone would trust her.  Reminds me of that elementary school teacher that would completely pull the wool over your mom's eyes by acting convivial during any kind of teacher/parent night even though every kid knew she was an evil bullying bitch when no other adults were around.

Yet liberal tampons trusted o-pos and look where we are. 


Liberal = FNG FAIL 

Liberal = FNG COMMIE

Liberal = PUT A BULLET IN YOUR HEAD

Liberal = traitor jihadi thug
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 03, 2014, 09:03:38 PM
Crytalians - sociopath losers with blatant homo tendencies and no lives.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: RRKore on March 03, 2014, 09:18:28 PM
Yet liberal tampons trusted o-pos and look where we are. 


Liberal = FNG FAIL 

Liberal = FNG COMMIE

Liberal = PUT A BULLET IN YOUR HEAD

Liberal = traitor jihadi thug

Yeah, you sound sane, lol. 

Isn't it time for you to go run around with a backpack full of bricks?
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: alabama ftw on March 03, 2014, 09:24:37 PM
Yeah, you sound sane, lol. 

Isn't it time for you to go run around with a backpack full of bricks?
He believes that Obama has a secret time machine. I think he is mentally ill at this point.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 04, 2014, 01:52:29 AM
I think obama is racing this nation right off the cliff
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: blacken700 on March 04, 2014, 04:52:48 AM
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Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: whork on March 04, 2014, 06:17:04 AM
(http://preview.images.memegenerator.net/Instance/Preview?imageID=8815437&generatorTypeID=&panels=&text0=living rent free in coach's head&text1=you betcha&text2=&text3=)

 ;D
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: Necrosis on March 04, 2014, 10:15:44 AM
wow.  you really have a strong hatred for some woman on TV that you've never met.   

I am not sure the word strong is of any utility. I generally need to correct you at least once.

I hate her yes. I would piss on her if she was burning but I would piss in a form of a chalk outline for the charred body awaiting arrival.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: bears on March 04, 2014, 10:20:53 AM
I am not sure the word strong is of any utility. I generally need to correct you at least once.

I hate her yes. I would piss on her if she was burning but I would piss in a form of a chalk outline for the charred body awaiting arrival.


you feel a stronger hatred for her than any intelligent person should ever feel about someone on TV they've never met.  you sound like one of those people whose politics has become their religion.  because you probably are.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: Necrosis on March 04, 2014, 10:29:43 AM
you feel a stronger hatred for her than any intelligent person should ever feel about someone on TV they've never met.  you sound like one of those people whose politics has become their religion.  because you probably are.

Not at all, you are literally way off base. I don't mention politics outside this board, namely because, I find american politics more interesting, it's hilarious. I can have immense hate for someone and it have no effect on me. I MC the haters ball bitch.

You know what else I hate?

blueberry flavored shit
aids
waiting
pinching the tip. This is a habit I got into when I was a kid, instead of letting loose I pool my cum in my foreskin. Any ideas?



Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: alabama ftw on March 05, 2014, 10:30:26 PM
Another thread that Coach starts and after he gets cornered he pleads the fifth. What a shock! ::)
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 05, 2014, 11:27:56 PM
(http://preview.images.memegenerator.net/Instance/Preview?imageID=8815437&generatorTypeID=&panels=&text0=living rent free in coach's head&text1=you betcha&text2=&text3=)

Doesn't help your case at all. Haha
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 05, 2014, 11:32:29 PM
Not really sure what I was supposed to answer here. She was right. The left is fucked in the head and can't make a case for what president loser is doing. So I'm just going to sit back and be right.... As always.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: 240 is Back on March 05, 2014, 11:40:15 PM
Not really sure what I was supposed to answer here. She was right. The left is fucked in the head and can't make a case for what president loser is doing. So I'm just going to sit back and be right.... As always.

Palin gets a LOT of shit wrong:
http://www.ranker.com/list/13-social-studies-facts-sarah-palin-got-wrong/kel-varnsen

We all get things wrong... but it's like she goes a way to be over the top with these odd, quirkly comments that really appeal to the voters that use emotion & hormones to vote, rather than logic or facts.   The left does it too, I'm not making this dem/repub.  Most repubs at that level are competent and skilled and know their stuff.  She just isn't nearly as prepared as cruz, rand, jeb, perry, or others.  She's really not.  I think most republicans on getbig will say Obama is an idiot, Hilary is an idiot, most repubs have great intelligence, most dems are immature and unrealistic/stupid, and sarah palin is just not a brilliant person - average intelligence at best.  it's okay to point out her as just not bright, just wrong on so many things, without being on obama's nuts.  People think it's either/or.  No, it's okay to say "obama is an illegal kenyan marxist bent on destroying america" AND "sarah palin is not that bright.  you see, BOTH things are possible.

She makes up words (refudiate!)   She speaks authoritatively on history - when her facts are beyond wrong.  Above all, she BELIVED MAN CAUSED GLOBAL WARMING a few years back when most repubs were off that wagon.  AND she supports amnesty.  Is she still brilliant? 


"Polls are for strippers and cross-country skiers" –Sarah Palin, speaking at a Tea Party rally in Iowa, Sept. 3, 2011

"If we were really domestic terrorists, President Obama would want to be palling around with us." --Sarah Palin, on allegations that Vice President Joe Biden referred to the Tea Party as acting like "terrorists" in the debt ceiling standoff, which Biden denied, Aug. 2, 2011

"[Paul Revere] did warn the British. And in a shout-out, gotcha-type of question that was asked of me, I answered candidly. And I know my American history." --Sarah Palin, defending her botched Paul Revere history lesson by taking issue with the reporter, who simply asked her "What have you seen so far today, and what are you going to take away from your visit?" (Fox News Sunday interview, June 5, 2011)

"He who warned, uh, the British that they weren't gonna be takin' away our arms, uh, by ringing those bells, and um, makin' sure as he's riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells that we were going to be sure and we were going to be free, and we were going to be armed." --Sarah Palin, on Paul Revere's midnight ride, June 3, 2011

"I love that smell of the emissions!" --Sarah Palin, at a motorcycle rally in Washington, D.C., where she rode in on a Harley, May 29, 2011

"I haven't heard the president state that we're at war. That's why I too am not knowing -- do we use the term intervention? Do we use war? Do we use squirmish? What is it?" --Sarah Palin, on the U.S. and NATO bombing of Libya, March 29, 2011

"Especially within hours of a tragedy unfolding, journalists and pundits should not manufacture a blood libel that serves only to incite the very hatred and violence they purport to condemn. That is reprehensible." --Sarah Palin, defending her fiery campaign rhetoric in the wake of the Arizona shooting massacre by invoking a phrase ("blood libel") that typically refers historically to the alleged murder of Christian babies by Jews, Jan. 12, 2011

"Because of that one episode, that one episode, that would turn an issue into what it has become over the last two years. I think that's ridiculous. That's one of those things, where that issue...that I don't read, or that I'm not informed, it's one of those questions where I like to turn that around and ask the reporters, 'Why would it be that there is that perception that I don't read?'" --Sarah Palin, ABC interview with Barbara Walters, Dec. 9, 2010

"But obviously, we've got to stand with our North Korean allies." --Sarah Palin, after being asked how she would handle the current hostilities between the two Koreas, interview on Glenn Beck's radio show, Nov. 24, 2010

"I want to help clean up the state that is so sorry today of journalism. And I have a communications degree." --Sarah Palin, Fox News interview with Sean Hannity, Nov. 22, 2010

"Who hijacked term: 'feminist'? A cackle of rads who want 2 crucify other women w/whom they disagree on a singular issue; it's ironic (& passé)" --Sarah Palin, in a Twitter message, Aug. 18, 2010

"Dr. Laura: don't retreat...reload! (Steps aside bc her 1st Amend.rights ceased 2exist thx 2activists trying 2silence "isn't American,not fair")" --Sarah Palin, in a Twitter message coming to the defense of Dr. Laura Schlessinger, the talk radio host who apologized and decided to retire from her highly-rated program after using the N-word on the air 11 times in 5 minutes, Aug. 18, 2010

"As we work and sightsee on America's largest island, we'll get to view more majestic bears, so now is a good time to draw attention to the political equivalent of the species." --Sarah Palin, referring to Kodiak Island in Alaska, even though Hawaii is America's biggest island, July 19, 2010

"Ground Zero Mosque supporters: doesn't it stab you in the heart, as it does ours throughout the heartland? Peaceful Muslims, pls refudiate." --a Tweet by Sarah Palin, which she quickly removed after being ridiculed for inventing the word "refudiate," July 18, 2010

"Peaceful New Yorkers, pls refute the Ground Zero mosque plan if you believe catastrophic pain caused @ Twin Towers site is too raw, too real." --a second Tweet by Sarah Palin, which she also removed after misusing the word "refute," July 18, 2010

"'Refudiate,' 'misunderestimate,' 'wee-wee'd up.' English is a living language. Shakespeare liked to coin new words too. Got to celebrate it!'" --a follow-up Tweet by Sarah Palin, proudly mistaking her illiteracy for literary genius, July 18, 2010

"[Barack and Michelle Obama] have power in their words. They could refudiate what it is that this group is saying." –Sarah Palin, on the NAACP charge of racism in the Tea Party movement, The Sean Hannity Show, Fox News, July 14, 2010

"We have a President, perhaps for the very first time since the founding of our republic, who doesn't appear to believe that America is the greatest earthly force for good the world has ever known." --Sarah Palin, Facebook note, June 30, 2010

"I would have waived the Jones Act, and some unions not might not like it, not union membership, but the union leaders, too many, who are thugs." --Sarah Palin, speaking at the Oil Palace in Tyler, Texas, June 26, 2010

"This is Reagan country (applause). Yeah! And perhaps it was destiny that the man who went to California's Eureka College would become so woven within and inter-linked to the Golden State." --Sarah Palin, blundering on Reagan's education while speaking at a fundraiser at California State University-Stanislaus. Eureka College is in Illinois. (June 25, 2010)

"What the federal government should have done is accept the assistance of foreign countries, of entrepreneurial Americans who have had solution that they wanted presented ... The Dutch and the Norwegians, they are known for dikes and for cleaning up water and for dealing with spills." --Sarah Palin, on solving the Gulf oil spill crisis, Fox News, June 15, 2010

"Shoot, I must have lived such a doggoned sheltered life as a normal, independent American up there in the Last Frontier, schooled with only public education and a lowly state university degree, because obviously I haven't learned enough to dismiss common sense." --Sarah Palin, on opposition to offshore oil drilling, Facebook note, June 13, 2010

"Here's an example of how it wastes some time. To be judged on or to be talked about on appearance—say chest size—it makes me wear layers, it makes me have to waste time figuring out what am I going to wear so that nobody will look in an area that I don't need them to look at." --Sarah Palin, Fox interview with Greta Van Susteren, June 12, 2010

"Unless government appropriately regulates oil developments and holds oil executives accountable, the public will not trust them to drill, baby, drill. And we must!" --Sarah Palin, Facebook note, June 8, 2010

"Extreme deep water drilling is not the preferred choice to meet our country's energy needs, but your protests and lawsuits and lies about onshore and shallow water drilling have locked up safer areas. It's catching up with you. The tragic, unprecedented deep water Gulf oil spill proves it." --Sarah Palin, blaming the Gulf oil spill disaster on "extreme environmentalists," Facebook note, June 2, 2010

"I think it's appalling and a violation of our freedom of the press." –Sarah Palin, speaking about the negative media coverage of Republican congressional candidate Vaughn Ward, Boise, Idaho, May 21, 2010

"We're all Arizonans now." --Sarah Palin, defending Arizona's new law cracking down on illegal immigration, May 15, 2010

"Go back to what our founders and our founding documents meant -- they're quite clear -- that we would create law based on the God of the bible and the Ten Commandments." –-Sarah Palin, arguing that Judeo-Christian belief was the basis for American law and should continue to be used as a guiding force for creating future legislation, interview with Bill O'Reilly, May 6, 2010

"We used to hustle over the border for health care we received in Canada. And I think now, isn't that ironic?" --Sarah Palin, admitting that her family used to get treatment in Canada's single-payer health care system, despite having demonized such government-run programs as socialized medicine that will lead to death-panel-like rationing, March 6, 2010

Sarah Palin, on writing notes on her hand during her Tea Party convention speech: "I didn't really had a good answer, as so often -- is me. But then somebody sent me the other day, Isaiah 49:16, and you need to go home and look it up. Before you look it up, I'll tell you what it says though. It says, hey, if it was good enough for God, scribbling on the palm of his hand, it's good enough for me, for us. He says, in that passage, 'I wrote your name on the palm of my hand to remember you,' and I'm like, 'Okay, I'm in good company.'" (March 5, 2010)

"They are kooks, so I agree with Rush Limbaugh. Rush Limbaugh was using satire ... I didn't hear Rush Limbaugh calling a group of people whom he did not agree with 'f-ing retards,' and we did know that Rahm Emanuel, as has been reported, did say that. There is a big difference there." --Sarah Palin, attempting to rationalize why it's okay for Limbaugh to use the word "retards" but not Emanuel, FOX News Sunday interview, Feb. 7, 2010

"Who calls a shot like that? Who makes a decision like that? It's a disturbing trend." –Sarah Palin, pushing a conspiracy theory that "In God We Trust" had been moved to the edge of coins by the Obama administration (the change was made by the Bush administration in 2007 and was later reversed by Congress, before Obama took office), West Allis, Wisconsin, Nov. 6, 2009

"The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama's 'death panel' so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their 'level of productivity in society,' whether they are worthy of health care. Such a system is downright evil." –-Sarah Palin, in a message posted on Facebook about Obama's health care plan, Aug. 12, 2009

"Left Unalakleet warmth for rain in Juneau tonite. No drought threat down here, ever but consistent rain reminds us: 'No rain? No rainbow!'" --one of many Tweets by Sarah Palin that William Shatner recited as poetry on "The Tonight Show"

"I think on a national level your Department of Law there in the White House would look at some of the things that we've been charged with and automatically throw them out." --Sarah Palin, referring to a department that does not exist while attempting to explain why as president she wouldn't be subjected to the same ethics investigations that compelled her to resign as governor of Alaska, ABC News interview, July 7, 2009

"How sad that Washington and the media will never understand; it's about country. And though it's honorable for countless others to leave their positions for a higher calling and without finishing a term, of course we know by now, for some reason a different standard applies for the decisions I make." --Sarah Palin, July 4, 2009

"It may be tempting and more comfortable to just keep your head down, plod along, and appease those who demand: 'Sit down and shut up,' but that's the worthless, easy path; that's a quitter's way out." --Sarah Palin, announcing her resignation as governor, July 3, 2009

"Let me go back to a comfortable analogy for me - sports... basketball. I use it because you're naive if you don't see the national full-court press picking away right now: A good point guard drives through a full court press, protecting the ball, keeping her eye on the basket... and she knows exactly when to pass the ball so that the team can WIN." --Sarah Palin, announcing her resignation, July 3, 2009

"Only dead fish go with the flow." --Sarah Palin, quitting, July 3, 2009

"Letterman certainly has the right to 'joke' about whatever he wants to, and thankfully we have the right to express our reaction. This is all thanks to our U.S. military women and men putting their lives on the line for us to secure America's Right to Free Speech - in this case, may that right be used to promote equality and respect." --Sarah Palin, misunderstanding the First Amendment, June 16, 2009

"That was fun!" --Sarah Palin, conducting an interview after pardoning a turkey for Thanksgiving while other turkeys were slaughtered in the background, Nov. 20, 2008

"I'm like, OK, God, if there is an open door for me somewhere, this is what I always pray, I'm like, don't let me miss the open door. Show me where the open door is." --Sarah Palin, on running for national office in the future, FOX News interview, Nov. 10, 2008

"John McCain and I, we love you and thank you for spending a few minutes to talk to me." --Sarah Palin, talking with Canadian radio prankster posing as French President Nicolas Sarkozy, Nov. 1, 2008 (Read more about the prank call, watch the video and see the transcript)

"Ohh, good, thank you, yes." --Sarah Palin, after the Canadian prank caller complimented her on the documentary about her life, Hustler's "Nailin Paylin," Nov. 1, 2008

"We realize that more and more Americans are starting to see the light there and understand the contrast. And we talk a lot about, OK, we're confident that we're going to win on Tuesday, so from there, the first 100 days, how are we going to kick in the plan that will get this economy back on the right track and really shore up the strategies that we need over in Iraq and Iran to win these wars?" --Sarah Palin, suggesting we are at war with Iran, FOX News interview, Nov. 1, 2008
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 05, 2014, 11:41:09 PM
Another thread that Coach starts and after he gets cornered he pleads the fifth. What a shock! ::)

Plead the fifth on what? The left are getting cought in lies, deceit and corruption in every possible way. Are you fucking kidding me? Haha

Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: AbrahamG on March 05, 2014, 11:45:11 PM
They can't "except" it? 

I'm wondering how a sober adult who didn't drop out of elementary school can make this mistake...and I'm coming up empty. 

I'd bet dollars to doughnuts, though, that you move your lips when you read. 

Keep posting, Coach.  This place can always use a little more humor.

Sure he uses the finger as well.




Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 05, 2014, 11:49:56 PM
Rob, no way I'm reading all that. But in short Hillary has a clue and is evil. Obama has NO clue and is evil. He's a fucking traitor and at the risk of of going to jail, I would honest to God tell him that to his face if he were 6" from me.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: alabama ftw on March 05, 2014, 11:50:43 PM
Plead the fifth on what? The left are getting cought in lies, deceit and corruption in every possible way. Are you fucking kidding me? Haha


You do the exact same thing in every thread. You start and idiotic thread that everyone with a little bit of skepticism easily can dismiss as bullshit. When your crap gets debunked and questioned you refuse to answer and disappear.

Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 05, 2014, 11:51:11 PM


The left nitpicks as if they don't make mistakes. lol
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: alabama ftw on March 05, 2014, 11:52:30 PM
Rob, no way I'm reading all that. But in short Hillary has a clue and is evil. Obama has NO clue and is evil. He's a fucking traitor and at the risk of of going to jail, I would honest to God tell him that to his face if he were 6" from me.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-WkQka90H83U/Tb67Djh7gVI/AAAAAAAADQA/HPJ32EL2ehg/s1600/delusional.jpg)
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 05, 2014, 11:53:05 PM
You do the exact same thing in every thread. You start and idiotic thread that everyone with a little bit of skepticism easily can dismiss as bullshit. When your crap gets debunked and questioned you refuse to answer and disappear.


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Jesus Christ you moron. Was she right or not? That was the point of the fucking thread. Keep spinning lefty. Keep avoiding the obvious.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: 240 is Back on March 05, 2014, 11:56:37 PM
Rob, no way I'm reading all that. But in short Hillary has a clue and is evil. Obama has NO clue and is evil. He's a fucking traitor and at the risk of of going to jail, I would honest to God tell him that to his face if he were 6" from me.

I agree with 100% of this.

But I ALSO think Palin is an idiot.

See, I think BOTH things are true.  I mean, I can say the Bucs suck AND the minnesota vikings suck too.   Obama AND Palin can both be complete idiot d-bags, even if they're on opposite sides of the political aisle.  

It is possible that some VERY STUPID people have good political ideologies.  Aside from global warming and amnesty,, Palin has some great political positions.   Book stupid, but smart politically.

At the same time, Rachel Maddow has advanced degrees, obviously has a high IQ, as demonstrated by her ability to speak on the fly with some amazingly constructed thoughts... but she's VERY misguided politically.   Book smart, sense stupid.  

This whole "smart" thing... smart people can be misguided, and dumb people can have awesome political views.
Neither Palin nor Obama should be running the country.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 06, 2014, 12:06:20 AM
I agree with 100% of this.

But I ALSO think Palin is an idiot.

See, I think BOTH things are true.  I mean, I can say the Bucs suck AND the minnesota vikings suck too.   Obama AND Palin can both be complete idiot d-bags, even if they're on opposite sides of the political aisle.  

It is possible that some VERY STUPID people have good political ideologies.  Aside from global warming and amnesty,, Palin has some great political positions.   Book stupid, but smart politically.

At the same time, Rachel Maddow has advanced degrees, obviously has a high IQ, as demonstrated by her ability to speak on the fly with some amazingly constructed thoughts... but she's VERY misguided politically.   Book smart, sense stupid.  

This whole "smart" thing... smart people can be misguided, and dumb people can have awesome political views.
Neither Palin nor Obama should be running the country.

Rob, you hated Palin since day one. She has proven (as already known) she's light years ahead of Obama (and the left) in intelligence and a more qualified than Obama would have ever been. If you compared what Palin has said and what Obama has said over the years, you'd think Obama was severely mentally retarted. I'm not even kidding on this. This clown isn't qualified to be a jr. High history teacher let alone the leader of the not-so- free world.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: 240 is Back on March 06, 2014, 12:10:21 AM
Rob, you hated Palin since day one. She has proven (as already known) she's light years ahead of Obama (and the left) in intelligence and a more qualified than Obama would have ever been. If you compared what Palin has said and what Obama has said over the years, you'd think Obama was severely mentally retarted. I'm not even kidding on this. This clown isn't qualified to be a jr. High history teacher let alone the leading of the not-so- free world.

Yes, from minute 1, I saw Palin as someone who was unprepared to hold the VP office.

See, she's light years ahead of obama... but they're BOTH way back in the pack, behind people who are actually qualified to lead the nation.

You're so stuck on obama.... you fail to see she is ALSO ill-qualified to run our nation.  Sure, she's LESS stupid than Obama, but she's still right in his ballpark.

It's like saying your dog should be allowed to drive a car, because he's damn sure smarter than my pet squirrel.  Maybe they BOTH lack the brainpower to drive a car?   :)

They're both idiots.   Obama is a bigger idiot, she's a smaller idiot... but they'd both be dangerous leading our nation.   Her politics are WAY better.  But she would try that insulting, condescending tone at a table with world leaders... unreal.

Well, 60% of voters said, in the 2008 fox/moffit poll, that palin wasn't ready to even be veep.  I agree with them, but I respect those who disagree.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: Necrosis on March 06, 2014, 05:43:10 AM
Rob, no way I'm reading all that. But in short Hillary has a clue and is evil. Obama has NO clue and is evil. He's a fucking traitor and at the risk of of going to jail, I would honest to God tell him that to his face if he were 6" from me.


how can someone be so fucking stupid and live?

Gets rebutted says he won't read it and goes back to his feelings. You are the biggest moron I have ever encountered. I have hate in my soul for you, there's a special place is sheeva's retard pit for people like you.

Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: bears on March 06, 2014, 03:20:42 PM
why do we have debates and campaign speeches when we have a group of guys who can tell if someone is ready to hold a position in government just by looking at them for 3 seconds?  you guys are seriously smart as hell.   
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: RRKore on March 06, 2014, 09:47:41 PM
... she's light years ahead of Obama (and the left) in intelligence...

Holy shit, do you really believe this?  If so, what kind of intelligence are you talking about? 

You can't be suggesting that you think Palin's I.Q. is higher than Obama's, can you?
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: 240 is Back on March 06, 2014, 10:18:13 PM
Holy shit, do you really believe this?  If so, what kind of intelligence are you talking about? 

You can't be suggesting that you think Palin's I.Q. is higher than Obama's, can you?

A lot of people don't separate IQ and common sense/political ideology.

Rachel Maddow is more intelligent than Sarah Palin.  There is no denying that.  Her massive education, her ability to convey her thoughts, and more. 

HOWEVER, many people would believe Maddow is clueless, ignorant, misguided, confused.... totally cool. 

Look at it this way - It's long been believed that Hitler had an IQ of 141.   He wrote books, convinced many people to do many things, ran a nation, was no doubt a psychopathic, evil man... but he was of high intelligence.  He was the picture of outright evil, but many evil people are of high intelligence.  Dumb + evil = live with mom and kill pets in basement.  Brilliant + evil = can do way more damage to mankind :(

Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: 240 is Back on March 07, 2014, 01:42:58 AM
Sarah Palin thinks President Obama and his mom jeans are no match for Vladimir Putin

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/sarah-palin-slams-president-obama-article-1.1710052

Palin, who prides herself on her knowledge of Russia, warned that Putin "harkens back to the era of the czars" and is on a quest to regain dominance when she spoke to FOX's Sean Hannity Monday night.

"People are looking at Putin as one who wrestles bears and drills for oil. They look at our president as one who wears mom jeans and equivocates and bloviates," Palin added.

The President was photographed donning denim on Saturday, when he called Putin from the Oval Office to discuss the situation in Ukraine.

Some conservatives complained that Obama's choice of attire was no match for the global crisis at hand.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: Necrosis on March 07, 2014, 04:25:59 AM
Holy shit, do you really believe this?  If so, what kind of intelligence are you talking about? 

You can't be suggesting that you think Palin's I.Q. is higher than Obama's, can you?

The bitter irony here, is he spelled retarded, retarted.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 07, 2014, 05:30:05 AM
The bitter irony here, is he spelled retarded, retarted.

O-fAgcare.   Boom
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 07, 2014, 06:16:51 AM
At this point?  You mean you didn't reach that conclusion years ago?

I knew the little closet case had something wrong with him back when he was telling us how he packed three survival duffel bags in preparation for cities burning when Obama was elected in 2008.  The only thing I have seen burning is the Jungle Fever he has for Obama.

(Sad when such a loser actually has to have protection from the reality he has created for himself.  Not surprising the biggest hypocrite on the board is his protector.)


You voted for obama 2 x - stfu twink.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: dario73 on March 07, 2014, 06:19:48 AM
Dumb Palin is a lot smarter than these libtards.

When will CBS, NBC, ABC, Biden, and barry apologize to Palin?

Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: Necrosis on March 07, 2014, 06:24:17 AM
Dumb Palin is a lot smarter than these libtards.

When will CBS, NBC, ABC, Biden, and barry apologize to Palin?



Apologize for what? he prediction? jesus how bad do you need a pat on the back? These fucking idiot would die on the stairs of any university from sheer intellectual repulsion.

She was asked what is your stance on the Bush Doctrine, she had no idea, that's akin to a doctor not knowing what cancer is.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: RRKore on March 07, 2014, 06:49:29 AM
O-fAgcare.   Boom

LOL.  Was wondering when you were going to bring back the "boom".
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: 240 is Back on March 07, 2014, 07:39:32 AM
anytime a person has to go back 6 years with "told ya so" in order to drum up some positive support in the press, it's pretty desperate. 

"I hate to say I told ya so, but..." = Palin desperate to be relevant again.  Remember, the GOP and FOX wouldn't even let her SPEAK at the 2012 convention.  She was the fresh bright light of the GOP in 2008, and 4 years later, they were scared to even let her say a word.  She had to beg FOX just to give her a mic.  You had no-names from Idaho and whevever giving speeches, and they woudln't let her speak. 

But she'll always have her supporters that believe she's smarter than every lib on the planet.  Sorry, but Warren Buffet is way smarter than Palin, even if one believes his politics are misguided.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: Option D on March 07, 2014, 07:42:53 AM
Dumb Palin is a lot smarter than these libtards.

When will CBS, NBC, ABC, Biden, and barry apologize to Palin?




no...she just isnt. and you know that. She went to 5 shitty schools for a god damn journalism degree. Tha fuck out of here
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: 240 is Back on March 07, 2014, 07:48:11 AM
Very stupid people can have good political viewpoints.

Very smart people can be politically misguided.

There are people with 75 IQ who are brilliant with cars, but can't read their way out of a paper bag.
There are people with billions from shrewd investments (Buffet) who are bedwetting liberals.

And of course, there are people who connect 3-4 sentences into random run-on verbal atrocities, speak on history without any actual facts, and really play the fool politically - who are shrewd enough to make millions by wearing a wig, winking at cameras, and appealing to sexually repressed FOX news viewers that play pocket pool way more than they should.

Maybe we can say maybe she's not smart, but she's been shrewd enough to make a small fortune by finding her niche and being passionate about it?   That's accurate, IMO.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: RRKore on March 07, 2014, 08:40:36 AM

no...she just isnt. and you know that. She went to 5 shitty schools for a god damn journalism degree. Tha fuck out of here

A journalism degree from the prestigious (lol) University of Idaho.

Though guessing her IQ from anything but an IQ test is anything but conclusive, a number of sources have estimated that her IQ is between 100 and 110.  Here's what seems to me is a pretty objective (and fairly interesting) article about that from late 2008:
http://www.halfsigma.com/2008/09/sarah-palins-iq-no-higher-than-110.html (http://www.halfsigma.com/2008/09/sarah-palins-iq-no-higher-than-110.html)

Sarah Palin's IQ: no higher than 110

September 05, 2008

The starting point for my estimation of Sarah Palin’s IQ is her college career. The fact that she graduated from a four year college at all indicates her IQ is above average (above 100). But her college history seems indicative of someone who was barely able to graduate. It seems as if she couldn’t hack majoring at business at a college in Hawii, and then transferred to community colleges, and finally was able to transfer back to an easy four year college, the University of Idaho, where she graduated with an easy major, journalism. She definitely does not have the college career of someone whose IQ is one standard deviation or more above the mean (115 or higher). Thus her IQ is likely somewhere between 100 and 115. Perhaps I was being generous in the previous post where I estimated 110. It could be as little as 100. A person with an IQ of 100 can still graduate from a four year college if she chooses an easy major and attends a non-challenging school such as the University of Idaho.

Now we must look at evidence of smartness and evidence of dumbness. Evidence of smartness first:

(1) Her sister says she is smart. In her biography, the sister says she was a bookworm as a kid, and on a recent interview on CNN, the sister said Sarah is very smart.

It’s not unheard of for siblings to help each other out, so this doesn’t really prove much. I would also not put much stock in the opinions of people in Wasilla where she was mayor. The average IQ of Wasilla seems to be about 95, and in the land of the blind the one-eyed woman is queen.

(2) She seemed competent talking about oil drilling on a Larry Kudlow interview that I watched.

What IQ does one need to speak competently about one topic? I think the 110 number would be high enough.

(3) She got elected governor of Alaska.

Surely this must demonstrate something? On the other hand, it seems to me like some freak occurrence, and maybe demonstrates the low IQ of Alaska voters rather than the high IQ of Sarah. Alaska does have a pretty abysmal high school graduation rate. Most intellectual Alaskans flee the state for more mentally stimulating jobs in the lower 48.

(4) She gave a good speech at the convention.

To what extent is public speaking correlated IQ? The correlation may not be that high. There are lots of high IQ people who are abysmal public speakers, so public speaking is not a highly g-loaded task. Normally, people with IQs below 115 don’t have the opportunity to do much public speaking because they don’t have much to say. But my guess is that a person with a propensity for public speaking with an IQ of 100 can sound a lot smarter than her IQ if there is a smart person available to put words in her mouth.

Meaningless evidence:

(1) Sarah is very self confident.

Self confidence is a trait that, if correlated with intelligence at all, is most likely inversely correlated. Comparing races, blacks have the highest self-confidence and Asians have the lowest self-confidence. But blacks have the lowest IQ and Asians have the highest IQ. Self confidence allows you to trick people into believing that you’re more competent than you really are.

Self confidence is related to being a good public speaker, so this trait is tricking people into overestimating her IQ.

Evidence of dumbness:

(1) She majored in journalism but there’s no evidence that she ever wrote anything.

Writing is a highly g-loaded task, so the lack of anything that she’s written could indicate her inability to write at a competent level.

(2) She had to hire an administrator to run the “city” of Wasilla.

Indicates she wasn’t smart enough to run the city herself?

(3) Interest in evangelical Christianity.

People who believe in the literal word of the Bible and get into evangelical Christianity are, on average, less intelligent than mainline Protestants.

(4) No intellectual hobbies.

Smart people have intellectual hobbies. Sarah likes to hunt moose.

(4) Proleness

I find this to be the most compelling indicator that Sarah’s IQ isn’t much higher than the minimum required to graduate from the University of Idaho. Social class is highly correlated with IQ. This correlation is much higher than the correlation between income and IQ or between income and class.

Both of Sarah’s parents are school teachers, the quintessential middle class jobs, but Sarah has clearly sunk to prole. Her husband hasn’t graduated from college, Track is not going to college, and Bristol gives no indication of being college-bound. Track getting arrested, and Bristol getting pregnant at 17 are markers of being prole rather than middle class.

Sinking in class below one’s parents tends to indicate having a lower IQ than one’s parents, which is why I have a hard time believing that Sarah’s IQ is any higher than 110.

Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: bears on March 07, 2014, 09:34:37 AM
these threads are ridiculous. 

Here's the sad reality.  none of you would last a minute in that arena.  you would all get destroyed.  and no matter what you like to think, you would all come across as stupider then Sarah Palin.   

you don't think so?  that makes you even stupider. 

the saddest part of it is that none of you believe me. 
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: RRKore on March 07, 2014, 10:02:02 AM
these threads are ridiculous. 

Here's the sad reality.  none of you would last a minute in that arena.  you would all get destroyed.  and no matter what you like to think, you would all come across as stupider then Sarah Palin.   

you don't think so?  that makes you even stupider. 

the saddest part of it is that none of you believe me. 

We'd all come across as stupider than Palin even if we had the coaching and years of experience that Palin has had? 

I disagree.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: 240 is Back on March 07, 2014, 10:11:32 AM
there are always going to be some people that MAKE FUN of those with advanced education.  ALWAYS.

there are always going to be people that resent those who went to college or earned advanced certifications, etc.

Nothing wrong with that... they have their own reasons, and yes, they need a candidate to support.

Palin is GREAT for them.  They didn't need 6 years of college, and they turned out fine, and maybe they reject the candidates like Obama with a silver spoon or someone who paid for their school.  THEY NEED A CANDIDATE TOO... palin is great for that.

I took the Palin route when it came to college, also.  I went to 2 community colleges (one for just a semester) and another univ for my BS and MBA, and some tech trade school too (A+, Net+, CCNA stuff)... I've been everywhere, man :)  So I don't shit on palin for that...

I do, however, dislike her trashing getting an education.  I would hope most kids don't look at that and say educations are for the elite, etc.   
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: Necrosis on March 07, 2014, 10:22:28 AM
Very stupid people can have good political viewpoints.

Very smart people can be politically misguided.

There are people with 75 IQ who are brilliant with cars, but can't read their way out of a paper bag.
There are people with billions from shrewd investments (Buffet) who are bedwetting liberals.

And of course, there are people who connect 3-4 sentences into random run-on verbal atrocities, speak on history without any actual facts, and really play the fool politically - who are shrewd enough to make millions by wearing a wig, winking at cameras, and appealing to sexually repressed FOX news viewers that play pocket pool way more than they should.

Maybe we can say maybe she's not smart, but she's been shrewd enough to make a small fortune by finding her niche and being passionate about it?   That's accurate, IMO.

Hi Robert,

That is retard level iq, they are great at nothing, spelling their name at that level is like finding the Higgs Boson.
Where do you get your car fixed? I think you need to get a second opinion.

Rob
Car is broke timmy
Timmy
Ok, potatoe
Rob
Great service, keep the change.
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Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: bears on March 07, 2014, 10:23:29 AM
We'd all come across as stupider than Palin even if we had the coaching and years of experience that Palin has had? 

I disagree.

everyone likes to think that but they're wrong.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: bears on March 07, 2014, 10:25:52 AM
We'd all come across as stupider than Palin even if we had the coaching and years of experience that Palin has had? 

I disagree.

much smarter people than you and I have thought this and gotten skewered. 
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: RRKore on March 07, 2014, 10:36:10 AM
much smarter people than you and I have thought this and gotten skewered. 

You are absolutely right about that. 

Remember Ross Perot's vice presidential running mate?
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 07, 2014, 10:50:39 AM

You voted for obama 2 x - stfu twink.

You melted down twice.  Good job closet fag.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: bears on March 07, 2014, 10:56:59 AM
You are absolutely right about that.  

Remember Ross Perot's vice presidential running mate?

plus coming across as intelligent in the political arena has almost ZERO to do with how intelligent you actually are.  it has much more to do with how you handle pressure.  so a lot of people posting on here think that if they are intelligent it will allow them to succeed in the political arena.  and they're wrong. 
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: 240 is Back on March 07, 2014, 11:04:01 AM
You are absolutely right about that.  

Remember Ross Perot's vice presidential running mate?

ah, yes.  He was an admiral with a shitload of relevant experience, masters degree in international relations, an amazing writer...

BUT

He lacked communication skills, wasn't knowledgeable in current areas, and there were major holes in what he knew and didn't know.  He was flaky.  He wasn't worthy of the VP or prez slot, despite his resume, etc.

He was by NO means a "stupid" man... but he lacked what it took to be president - that ability to understand and communicate quickly in a hundred different arenas.  Palin lacks that too.  Rapid subject changes -

here she is trying to support a Bailout that she really doesn't understand... and look at the structure of this ONE sentence.

PALIN: "That's why I say, I, like every American I'm speaking with, we're ill about this position that we have been put in where it is the tax payers looking to bail out, but ultimately, what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the healthcare reform that is needed to help shore up our economy, helping tho— it's got to be all about job creation too, shoring up our economy, and putting it back on the right track, so healthcare reform and reducing taxes and reining in spending has got to accompany tax reductions and tax relief for Americans. "

That was ONE sentence
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: bears on March 07, 2014, 11:06:35 AM
plus I also understand that most on here don't think she's stupid because they think she's stupid.  they think she's stupid because she's a Republican and the Democratic machine that guides their beliefs make them believe that she's stupid.  same thing with Republicans thinking Barack Obama is "stupid".  its just something that they know they're supposed to say.

I think the main difference between me and a lot of people on here is that I simply don't believe in any of this anymore.  

I think it's all silly.  to me there is absolutely ZERO difference between the Presidential elections and WWE Monday night Raw.  
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: 240 is Back on March 07, 2014, 11:09:26 AM
Bush was smart.   Obama is smart.   They are definitely well over 115 IQ, one standard deviation and I'd bet they're both 130 easily.  You don't finish the MBA or JD if you're completely stupid.

Now, we can argue either/both of them were murderous, politically misguided, idiotic, evil, selfish, lying, etc... YES, very possible that one or both of them fall under this heading.

But as far as being SMART... as far as IQ, as far as being able to understand complex subects, YES, they are smart people.    Everytime I see a high school dropout in the bar saying "Obama is DUMB", I just shake my head... just about everyone at this top level is pretty smart.  And the ones who are not, well, we see it pretty quickly.  Obama sucks, but his IQ is probably 130 easily, and I'd agree with this for most in Congress, to be honest.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: loco on March 07, 2014, 11:12:16 AM
Rep. Henry Waxman clueless in Bigger Stronger Faster

Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: loco on March 07, 2014, 11:29:57 AM
Guam will Capsize and Tip Over into the ocean by adding troops

Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: loco on March 07, 2014, 12:09:03 PM
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: 240 is Back on March 07, 2014, 12:18:41 PM
these liberals such as the guam=tipping guy are also stone cold idiots.  no doubt.   

an island can tip over... I mean, if he's that stupid in one area, how dumb is he in some other areas?  It's like, you learn islands don't actually float by the 3rd or 4th grade.  What else did he miss at school that day?
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: RRKore on March 07, 2014, 02:02:43 PM
these liberals such as the guam=tipping guy are also stone cold idiots.  no doubt.   

an island can tip over... I mean, if he's that stupid in one area, how dumb is he in some other areas?  It's like, you learn islands don't actually float by the 3rd or 4th grade.  What else did he miss at school that day?

For sure libs, particularly certain ones, can say incredibly stupid shit. 

I'm going to go out on a limb here (naah, not really) and say it's far easier to find the really stupid stuff coming out of the mouths of those on the right, though.  (Since the right currently encompasses evangelicals and tea party folks, how could this not be true?)

For the sake of balance, though, I'm not inclined to post any vids to back up what I'm saying here.  We see too much of that kind of stuff already, I think.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: Necrosis on March 07, 2014, 02:04:15 PM
these threads are ridiculous. 

Here's the sad reality.  none of you would last a minute in that arena.  you would all get destroyed.  and no matter what you like to think, you would all come across as stupider then Sarah Palin.   

you don't think so?  that makes you even stupider. 

the saddest part of it is that none of you believe me. 

Oh jesus, are you serious? she is stupid dude, many people sound far more intelligent then her and can answer simple fucking questions, like name a newspaper. I can also remember more then three facts at any one instance. She is only able to breath and think one thought.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: bears on March 07, 2014, 02:37:16 PM
Oh jesus, are you serious? she is stupid dude, many people sound far more intelligent then her and can answer simple fucking questions, like name a newspaper. I can also remember more then three facts at any one instance. She is only able to breath and think one thought.

you have far too strong of an opinion of some chick who took second place in an election for me to believe that your opinion isn't rooted in ideology.  what's funny is you can tell just by reading your posts how fucking angry you are at some chick you never met and who you know only from soundbytes on the internet.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 07, 2014, 10:39:25 PM
Holy shit, do you really believe this?  If so, what kind of intelligence are you talking about? 

You can't be suggesting that you think Palin's I.Q. is higher than Obama's, can you?

The fucker couldn't spell respect. Yes. She is. Fuck IQ, I'm sure the left are full of "high IQ" minions, but that doesn't mean they have commonsense. No, Obama is as dumb as box of fucking rocks.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: 24KT on March 07, 2014, 10:57:53 PM
The fucker couldn't spell respect. Yes. She is. Fuck IQ, I'm sure the left are full of "high IQ" minions, but that doesn't mean they have commonsense. No, Obama is as dumb as box of fucking rocks.

Coach, if Obama is as dumb as a box of rocks, but managed to beat your choices for President TWICE,
...what does that say about the intelligence of your preferred candidates? And what would that say about YOU for preferring candidates that are DUMBER than a box of rocks?

That said, Palin did NOT predict an Russian invasion of Crimea which has yet to occur.

If memory serves me correctly, she stated that if Putin were to make a move to invade the USA, he would make his attempt via Alaska. She also stated she could see Russia from her backyard. ::)
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: RRKore on March 07, 2014, 11:04:45 PM
The fucker couldn't spell respect. Yes. She is. Fuck IQ, I'm sure the left are full of "high IQ" minions, but that doesn't mean they have commonsense. No, Obama is as dumb as box of fucking rocks.

Really?  lol  

Dumb as a box of rocks though he graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law School?  

How does that make any kind of sense (common or otherwise)?   Use your brain, Coach.  You sound like a crazy person.  

Obama has done some objectionable shit by almost anyone's measure but that doesn't mean he's "as dumb as a box of rocks" (or even as dumb as the Wasilla quitter whom you seem to admire for some reason).  

I get that you get that brain power isn't your strong suit, ya gym nerd, but it's pathetic the way you wear your insecurity on your sleeve.  

Unless you're just trying to get folks to pity you, you should quit that.  Makes you look weak.



Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 07, 2014, 11:17:23 PM
Really?  lol  

Dumb as a box of rocks though he graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law School?  

How does that make any kind of sense (common or otherwise)?   Use your brain, Coach.  You sound like a crazy person.  

Obama has done some objectionable shit by almost anyone's measure but that doesn't mean he's "as dumb as a box of rocks" (or even as dumb as the Wasilla quitter whom you seem to admire for some reason).  

I get that you get that brain power isn't your strong suit, ya gym nerd, but it's pathetic the way you wear your insecurity on your sleeve.  

Unless you're just trying to get folks to pity you, you should quit that.  Makes you look weak.





Yes, and how did he get into Harvard again?? Ok, you skated around the last question I asked which is why I ignored you. Let's try another. What qualified him to be where he is now? Do you really think he's more qualified than what Palin was? If you say yes (which you undoubtedly will) explain why. And saying he's made "some" questionable moves is the biggest understatement of the decade.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: Necrosis on March 08, 2014, 01:59:54 AM
you have far too strong of an opinion of some chick who took second place in an election for me to believe that your opinion isn't rooted in ideology.  what's funny is you can tell just by reading your posts how fucking angry you are at some chick you never met and who you know only from soundbytes on the internet.


My opinion is rooted in fact,she has said things that lead me to believe she is stupid. The manner in which she speaks, the non-sense she spews, how the words that come from her dick hole have no rational backing.

She isn't that bright, is a shitstain on mccains record.

If you are impressed by her speaking and intellect, I challenge you to go to a grade 12 public speaking conference and see how smart you have to be to speak intelligently, particularly when preperation is involved.


This is the woman that was verbally owned by a person with DOWN SYNDROME. she was owned, logically, by a retard. Not the derogatory term, a legit retard owned her.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: RRKore on March 08, 2014, 07:44:47 AM
Yes, and how did he get into Harvard again?? Ok, you skated around the last question I asked which is why I ignored you. Let's try another. What qualified him to be where he is now? Do you really think he's more qualified than what Palin was? If you say yes (which you undoubtedly will) explain why. And saying he's made "some" questionable moves is the biggest understatement of the decade.

I don't know how he got into Harvard Law School but is how he got into Harvard Law School relevant to his level of intelligence if he graduated magna cum laude?  You seem to be implying that he wasn't intelligent enough to get into the school on the merits of his mental competence alone but the fact that he passed the classes graduated with honors shoots that bullshit right out of the water.

Let's put it this way:  If some guy with no qualifications gets on the Olympic weightlifting team but then medals at the actual Olympics, are you really going to keep saying, "Oh, that' dude is weak"?

And still bringing up "Palin is so qualified" crap?  What are her qualifications again?  Because you seem to have been asleep for the last 5 years.   

Let me clue you in:  It's currently 2014 and "qualified" Palin quit as governor of Alaska in 2009 when she was less than halfway through her first 4-year term.  Does that sound like someone who's "qualified"?
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: Necrosis on March 08, 2014, 08:02:11 AM
I don't know how he got into Harvard Law School but is how he got into Harvard Law School relevant to his level of intelligence if he graduated magna cum laude?  You seem to be implying that he wasn't intelligent enough to get into the school on the merits of his mental competence alone but the fact that he passed the classes graduated with honors shoots that bullshit right out of the water.

Let's put it this way:  If some guy with no qualifications gets on the Olympic weightlifting team but then medals at the actual Olympics, are you really going to keep saying, "Oh, that' dude is weak"?

And still bringing up "Palin is so qualified" crap?  What are her qualifications again?  Because you seem to have been asleep for the last 5 years.   

Let me clue you in:  It's currently 2014 and "qualified" Palin quit as governor of Alaska in 2009 when she was less than halfway through her first 4-year term.  Does that sound like someone who's "qualified"?

He likes quitter dictators.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 08, 2014, 09:51:08 AM
I don't know how he got into Harvard Law School but is how he got into Harvard Law School relevant to his level of intelligence if he graduated magna cum laude?  You seem to be implying that he wasn't intelligent enough to get into the school on the merits of his mental competence alone but the fact that he passed the classes graduated with honors shoots that bullshit right out of the water.

Let's put it this way:  If some guy with no qualifications gets on the Olympic weightlifting team but then medals at the actual Olympics, are you really going to keep saying, "Oh, that' dude is weak"?

And still bringing up "Palin is so qualified" crap?  What are her qualifications again?  Because you seem to have been asleep for the last 5 years.   

Let me clue you in:  It's currently 2014 and "qualified" Palin quit as governor of Alaska in 2009 when she was less than halfway through her first 4-year term.  Does that sound like someone who's "qualified"?

He was also raised and mentored by known communists. If he's so freaking intelligent then why has just about everything he's touched failed in this country? As for Palin, she was FAR more qualified than Obama ever was at any given time, but since the left can't argue policy, they demonize and brainwash the takers and dumbshit's who actually believed the shit the left spewed. There are plenty of people who have graduated from Ivy league schools (that actually have transcripts and documentation to prove it) that were more qualified than Obama.

 But aside from his bullshit accomplishments of being a "law professor" in which he clearly forgets by breaking the law what seems to be on a daily basis and oh, lets not for about both he and moooshell getting their law licenses revoked, failing the district he supposedly represented in Chicago that looked like a third world country when he left that office, not showing up for votes but just voting "present"..let's take a look at Palins accomplishments while she was Governor...

http://conservatives4palin.com/2012/06/governor-palins-executive-accomplishments.html
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: Necrosis on March 08, 2014, 09:57:47 AM
He was also raised and mentored by known communists. If he's so freaking intelligent then why has just about everything he's touched failed in this country? As for Palin, she was FAR more qualified than Obama ever was at any given time, but since the left can't argue policy, they demonize and brainwash the takers and dumbshit's who actually believed the shit the left spewed. There are plenty of people who have graduated from Ivy league schools (that actually have transcripts and documentation to prove it) that were more qualified than Obama.

 But aside from his bullshit accomplishments of being a "law professor" in which he clearly forgets by breaking the law what seems to be on a daily basis and oh, lets not for about both he and moooshell getting their law licenses revoked, failing the district he supposedly represented in Chicago that looked like a third world country when he left that office, not showing up for votes but just voting "present"..let's take a look at Palins accomplishments while she was Governor...

http://conservatives4palin.com/2012/06/governor-palins-executive-accomplishments.html

liks a site called conservatives for palin as a source for palins credentials. Bet that site ain't biased. lol.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: blacken700 on March 08, 2014, 09:58:15 AM
Arguing that palin is intelligent makes you look unintelligent. Really,your playing the fools hand
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 08, 2014, 10:10:43 AM
liks a site called conservatives for palin as a source for palins credentials. Bet that site ain't biased. lol.

I'm sorry, is her list of accomplishments wrong?
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: RRKore on March 08, 2014, 11:19:10 AM
He was also raised and mentored by known communists. If he's so freaking intelligent then why has just about everything he's touched failed in this country? As for Palin, she was FAR more qualified than Obama ever was at any given time, but since the left can't argue policy, they demonize and brainwash the takers and dumbshit's who actually believed the shit the left spewed. There are plenty of people who have graduated from Ivy league schools (that actually have transcripts and documentation to prove it) that were more qualified than Obama.

 But aside from his bullshit accomplishments of being a "law professor" in which he clearly forgets by breaking the law what seems to be on a daily basis and oh, lets not for about both he and moooshell getting their law licenses revoked, failing the district he supposedly represented in Chicago that looked like a third world country when he left that office, not showing up for votes but just voting "present"..let's take a look at Palins accomplishments while she was Governor...

http://conservatives4palin.com/2012/06/governor-palins-executive-accomplishments.html

Coach, you are evading my question:  How is Obama "as dumb as a box of rocks" and yet he graduated Harvard Law School with honors?  (Hint:  This question in no way has anything to do with his qualifications to be president;  It only has to do with disproving your statements about his lack of intelligence.)

Is it really possible that you're not man enough to admit that you were exaggerating?  I don't understand that kind of shit at all.

BTW, imo, the whole "qualification issue" as it relates to suitability for presidency is asinine since he (and Palin, too, actually) is technically qualified to be president. 

If you're in favor of adding some extra legal qualifications for presidential candidates (like no black libs or whatever, lol) you should contact your congressman and see if you can get the law changed.

BTW, Mr. wannabe-propagator-of-false-info, neither President Obama nor his wife had their law licenses "revoked".  That's a myth you probably read in an email from some fringe-y rightwing group.  According to the following article, both voluntarily placed their licenses on inactive status.  Don't believe me?  Read the article here so you can have a clue about the whole (non)issue:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/lawlicenses.asp (http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/lawlicenses.asp)

Taking License

Claim:   Barack and Michelle Obama both surrendered their law licenses to avoid pending disciplinary actions.

   FALSE


Much more info at link.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 08, 2014, 12:01:53 PM
http://www.examiner.com/article/why-did-the-obamas-lose-their-law-licenses
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: RRKore on March 08, 2014, 12:18:47 PM
http://www.examiner.com/article/why-did-the-obamas-lose-their-law-licenses

Holy reading comprehension, did you even read the article? 

...and now, it appears that Barack and Michelle Obama have lost their Illinois law licenses.

The Attorney Registration & Disciplinary Commission, an agency of the Illinois Supreme Court, has a web site that indicates the status of all lawyers licensed to practice in that state. President Barack Obama, former president of the Harvard Law Review, adjunct teacher of Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago law school, and self-described expert on the U.S. Constitution, is no longer a “lawyer.” For unstated reasons, he voluntary surrendered his law license back in 2008. The ARDC describes his bar status as: “Voluntarily retired and not authorized to practice law.”

Michelle Lavaughn Robinson Obama “voluntarily surrendered” her law license in 1993, for unspecified reasons. The ARDC describes her bar status as: “Voluntarily inactive and not authorized to practice law.”

So, Barack and Michelle are no longer licensed to practice law. This much we know for sure. What we do not know—and may never know, given the Obama’s penchant for secrecy concerning their resumes—is why these two legal powerhouses would “voluntarily” surrender their valuable law licenses.


The rest of the article speculates about possible reasons which is fine since it isn't misleading in the way it does that.

Seriously, Coach, there's got to be a low-cost community college in your area.  Just one night class per semester (in critical thinking, American history, whatever) would do you a lot of good in just a few short years. 

I'm not joking about the classes being good for you.  Even if your basic political views were to remain unchanged, you'd at least be able to make your arguments much more effectively.  (Also, community college girls are often pretty freakin' hot and maybe even dumb enough to fall for an old man like you, lol.)
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 08, 2014, 12:29:39 PM
I did read it, I also read for unspecified reasons. I also read this which makes a good point.


So, Barack and Michelle are no longer licensed to practice law. This much we know for sure. What we do not know—and may never know, given the Obama’s penchant for secrecy concerning their resumes—is why these two legal powerhouses would “voluntarily” surrender their valuable law licenses. They spent almost 20 years apiece just getting to the point where they were eligible to take the Illinois bar exam. Most attorneys who take political jobs (technically, Michelle is unemployed) keep renewing their law licenses. And most states allow lawyers to place their licenses in “inactive” status, to eliminate the tiresome necessity of taking mandatory annual continuing legal education (CLE) training, but still require payment of yearly dues.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: Necrosis on March 08, 2014, 01:05:51 PM
I'm sorry, is her list of accomplishments wrong?

The website has sarahpalin in it, I doubt it's anything but great things, like how she didn't get the revere thing wrong.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: Necrosis on March 08, 2014, 01:11:29 PM
I did read it, I also read for unspecified reasons. I also read this which makes a good point.


So, Barack and Michelle are no longer licensed to practice law. This much we know for sure. What we do not know—and may never know, given the Obama’s penchant for secrecy concerning their resumes—is why these two legal powerhouses would “voluntarily” surrender their valuable law licenses. They spent almost 20 years apiece just getting to the point where they were eligible to take the Illinois bar exam. Most attorneys who take political jobs (technically, Michelle is unemployed) keep renewing their law licenses. And most states allow lawyers to place their licenses in “inactive” status, to eliminate the tiresome necessity of taking mandatory annual continuing legal education (CLE) training, but still require payment of yearly dues.

Ughhh they don't practice law, why would you keep the lincense active? it costs money, he is the PRESIDENT. This guy is acting like they can never get the lincense back as well.

You are nuts. Everyone here thinks/knows you are borederline happy puppet syndrome dude.

Obama is dumb, yet you believe he has duped the world over and over. The whole world, the best of the best have been tricked by this Kenyen hipster.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: RRKore on March 08, 2014, 01:23:47 PM
I did read it, I also read for unspecified reasons. I also read this which makes a good point.


So, Barack and Michelle are no longer licensed to practice law. This much we know for sure. What we do not know—and may never know, given the Obama’s penchant for secrecy concerning their resumes—is why these two legal powerhouses would “voluntarily” surrender their valuable law licenses. They spent almost 20 years apiece just getting to the point where they were eligible to take the Illinois bar exam. Most attorneys who take political jobs (technically, Michelle is unemployed) keep renewing their law licenses. And most states allow lawyers to place their licenses in “inactive” status, to eliminate the tiresome necessity of taking mandatory annual continuing legal education (CLE) training, but still require payment of yearly dues.

I wouldn't call it a good point but understand that it might seem compelling to some but, bottomline, none of that proves anything though, does it?  

Why wouldn't I call it a "good point"?  For fuck's sake, it says "Most attorneys who take political jobs..."  So somehow being the President of the United States (or even being the first black 1st Lady) is just "taking a political job"?  

What I'm talking about is this:  It stands to reason that most lawyers who get political jobs keep their law licenses active because they know those jobs are usually temporary so they'll one day probably need to return to working as lawyers to make money, doesn't it?  

So, c'mon now, do you seriously think either Barack or Michelle will EVER need to return to litigating court cases to make money?  Who would be delusional enough to think that?  -- When the Obama family wants to make some money after they're out of he White House, they'll likely just give speeches for which they'll be richly remunerated (and for a minimum of effort, too).  They'll hardly be the first national politicians to go this route and you must be aware of that, I'm thinking.

Also, my non-critical thinking fellow getbigger, did you notice that your excerpt from the article says "Most states"?  Didn't that make you think something might be up?  Seems like kind of weasel-y language since we're clearly talking about the state of Illinois and only Illinois. So....

I looked that shit up and here's what I was able to find out in about 10 minutes:  
- It turns out that the part from your excerpt about still needing to pay dues even when on inactive status DOES apply to Illinois; In Illinois, if you remain on "active" status, you will pay a higher annual registration fee ($342- for active vs $105- for inactive) but, of course, this is just pocket change for the Obama family.  But...
- In Illinois, if you remain on "active" status, you ARE subject to MCLE requirements (Minimum Continuing Legal Education).  Nowhere in the lengthy list of exceptions to this requirement does it indicate that a President or 1st Lady is allowed to avoid the requirement.  And...
- In Illinois, if you remain on "active" status, you must maintain malpractice insurance.  (Not sure how much this costs but I'll bet it's more than the registration fee difference between "active" and "inactive" status).

Read for yourself here:
http://www.state.il.us/court/supremecourt/rules/art_vii/artvii.htm (http://www.state.il.us/court/supremecourt/rules/art_vii/artvii.htm)

Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: RRKore on March 08, 2014, 01:26:37 PM
Ughhh they don't practice law, why would you keep the lincense active? it costs money, he is the PRESIDENT. This guy is acting like they can never get the lincense back as well.

You are nuts. Everyone here thinks/knows you are borederline happy puppet syndrome dude.

Obama is dumb, yet you believe he has duped the world over and over. The whole world, the best of the best have been tricked by this Kenyen hipster.

Good point about being able to go back on "active" status without much problem.  I missed that.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: AbrahamG on March 08, 2014, 07:29:01 PM
The single most important fact that everyone is overlooking is that Glen Rice fucked the living shit out of her with his HUGE BLACK COCK.  I"d bet 10K ala Mitt Romney that she sucked it after it was balls deep in her vagina.  The real question is did they do anal?  I'd say yes.  ATM?  Not so sure.  Hope this helps.
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: RRKore on March 08, 2014, 10:58:24 PM
The single most important fact that everyone is overlooking is that Glen Rice fucked the living shit out of her with his HUGE BLACK COCK.  I"d bet 10K ala Mitt Romney that she sucked it after it was balls deep in her vagina.  The real question is did they do anal?  I'd say yes.  ATM?  Not so sure.  Hope this helps.

LOL!!!  I wasn't sure if you meant Michelle Obama or Sarah Palin and really wasn't sure you meant if you meant Glen Rice who first became well-known when he played B-ball for Michingan but HOLY SHIT! How is it I never heard of this before:

http://deadspin.com/5840042/new-biography-claims-sarah-palin-had-a-one-night-stand-with-glen-rice-in-1987 (http://deadspin.com/5840042/new-biography-claims-sarah-palin-had-a-one-night-stand-with-glen-rice-in-1987)

New Biography Claims Sarah Palin Had A One-Night Stand With Glen Rice In 1987

The National Enquirer grabbed some details from the upcoming Joe McGinniss Sarah Palin book, and this chunk is too delightful not to share with you immediately. Apparently Palin had a fling with former Heat/Hornet/Laker Glen Rice while he was in college and while she was a sports reporter in Alaska, all the way back in 1987. Rice confirms it in the book.

Here's the Enquirer:

    In the book, which will be published on September 20th, McGinniss claims Sarah had a steamy interracial hookup with basketball stud Glen Rice less than a year before she eloped with her husband Todd.

    Sarah hooked up with the NBA great, then a 6-foot-8 junior at the University of Michigan when he was playing in a college basketball tournament in Alaska in 1987, the book says. At the time, Sarah, just out of college, was working as a sports reporter for the Anchorage TV station KTUU.

    A publishing source told The ENQUIRER that McGinniss claims Sarah had a "fetish" for black men at the time and he quotes a friend as saying Sarah had "hauled (Rice's) ass down."
    [...]
    In the book, McGinniss quotes Rice as confirming the one-night stand.

We won't subject her journalistic ethics to any kind of scrutiny at this point, because, well, wow. And, oh, don't worry, we are all just as terribly confused as you are.


Oh, there was an update:
http://deadspin.com/5840280/heres-sarah-palin-reporting-on-glen-rices-michigan-team-three-months-after-they-allegedly-humped (http://deadspin.com/5840280/heres-sarah-palin-reporting-on-glen-rices-michigan-team-three-months-after-they-allegedly-humped)

Here's Sarah Palin Reporting On Glen Rice's Michigan Team Three Months After They Allegedly Humped

Just about three months after her alleged one-night stand with Michigan star player Glen Rice, Sarah Palin (then Sarah Heath) reported on a Wolverines game for Anchorage's KTUU-TV. In the clip above, she's reporting on Michigan's 80-67 loss to Purdue on March 3, 1988, in which clinched the Big Ten championship game for the Boilermakers.


More, including a video of the intimidatingly confident-looking young Sarah Palin reporting on college b-ball, at the link above. (She looks way smarter without her glasses, lol.)

Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: 240 is Back on March 08, 2014, 11:02:13 PM
Here's the thing...

Palin was the shining star of the republican party in 2008.  Mccain was old, he lost, and as the VP pick and the cheerleader of the party, she was no doubt a major frontrunner in 2012.  All she had to do was keep kicking ass as governor, keep fundraising, keep cheering on the 2010 race, etc.

unfortunately, she quickly left her governor job, took a job and FOX, and spent the next year attaching herself to everything tea party (even when it violated many of her previous positions).   instead of doing selected speeches and just kicking ass as Gov, she decided to stand in front of turkeys being butchered, she decided to invent words like refudiate.... She just kept on acting the fool until the GOP practically disowned her.

The left doesn't like her.   But except for a small few, the RIGHT has disowned her too.   Can't blame the "libs" when FOX news disses her.   She very quickly showed she's all abuot being an entertainer, which is cool.... it's her true calling... she went to school for journalism... I bet she LOVED working at FOX.  

SO as long as she stays out of politics, I dont have a beef with her.  She WILL hand any election she enters, to the Dems.  No doubt about that. Repubs seem to agree too... why they keep anyone with her kinda starpower on the sidelines...
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: 240 is Back on March 08, 2014, 11:07:04 PM
Sarah Palin (then Sarah Heath)

Wider than Heath. 

What's the big deal who she slept with?   YEs, NBA baller Glen Rice confirmed the sexual tryst, but said they didn't rush things - He said they got to know each other that weekend before having sex... that weekend...

http://deadspin.com/5841835/all-the-details-of-the-sarah-palin-glen-rice-coitus-youve-been-waiting-for

Also, he said they continued being friends, keeping in touch via phone right up until she got married.  Nothing wrong with 2 adults having sex at their own pace.  And it's cool they stayed friends. 
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: blacken700 on March 10, 2014, 01:51:14 PM
Wider than Heath. 

What's the big deal who she slept with?   YEs, NBA baller Glen Rice confirmed the sexual tryst, but said they didn't rush things - He said they got to know each other that weekend before having sex... that weekend...

http://deadspin.com/5841835/all-the-details-of-the-sarah-palin-glen-rice-coitus-youve-been-waiting-for

Also, he said they continued being friends, keeping in touch via phone right up until she got married.  Nothing wrong with 2 adults having sex at their own pace.  And it's cool they stayed friends. 

Sarah a mudshark lol
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: Option D on March 10, 2014, 02:25:47 PM
Yes, and how did he get into Harvard again??

He got in because he kicked fuckin ass and he OBVIOUSLY  belonged there as he graduated TOP OF HIS CLASS....like seriously...what in the shit are we talking about
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: Option D on March 10, 2014, 02:27:48 PM
I'm sorry, is her list of accomplishments wrong?

accomplishments such as like 5 shitty schools for a journalism degree....or the fact that she lost to the first Knee-Grow president, or the fact that she Quit while yapping about how hard working she is....i mean shit... those are all facts
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: bears on March 10, 2014, 03:55:42 PM


4:55 to the end is just.......wow. 
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: blacken700 on March 10, 2014, 05:55:06 PM
lol palin,the gift that keeps giving




Haha i win
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 10, 2014, 08:26:53 PM
He got in because he kicked fuckin ass and he OBVIOUSLY  belonged there as he graduated TOP OF HIS CLASS....like seriously...what in the shit are we talking about

And he still can't spell R E S P E C T or S Y R A C U S E
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: chadstallion on March 11, 2014, 06:15:12 AM
did she ever get back to Katie with a couple newspapers and magazines she reads?
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: blacken700 on March 11, 2014, 06:17:13 AM
did she ever get back to Katie with a couple newspapers and magazines she reads?

it's beyond me how anybody can even defend her  :o :D :D
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: Option D on March 11, 2014, 07:13:56 AM
And he still can't spell R E S P E C T or S Y R A C U S E

i mispell words sometimes. And so do you. Withoug spellcheck i imagine your posts would be disasters.
but he still graduated from Harvard at the top of his class. And you, in all likleyhood,  dont even know anyone that ever went to Harvard
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 11, 2014, 07:18:34 AM
i mispell words sometimes. And so do you. Withoug spellcheck i imagine your posts would be disasters.
but he still graduated from Harvard at the top of his class. And you, in all likleyhood,  dont even know anyone that ever went to Harvard

Speaking of spellcheck?   ;)
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: Option D on March 11, 2014, 07:43:59 AM
Speaking of spellcheck?   ;)


i dont run spell check ever on here. If my finger hits a "g" instread of a "t" because i use 3 different keyboards a day, sue me
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 11, 2014, 07:47:32 AM

i dont run spell check ever on here. If my finger hits a "g" instread of a "t" because i use 3 different keyboards a day, sue me

Maybe you have fat fingers lately . . . . . . .  :D
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: Option D on March 11, 2014, 07:51:17 AM
Maybe you have fat fingers lately . . . . . . .  :D

yeah crossfit gym was burned down
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 11, 2014, 07:52:44 AM
yeah crossfit gym was burned down

Hate cross fit - its a waste of $ 

Now your situation . . . . . . we need to have a frank discussion on where this is all going.   ;)
Title: Re: And to think the left made fun of her..
Post by: bears on March 11, 2014, 08:38:27 AM
watching people on here pretend like they're being objective is like watching your 5 year old son lie to you about who ate the cookie when there's chocolate all over his face. 

except with adults, its not cute.  its disturbing.  I don't want anyone on this thread bashing religion anymore.  because this thread is dripping with religious faith.