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Since somebody started a thread about Vince Comerford, I went looking for a video on him and found the entire WBF show from '91.
This is the show in its entirety.
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Bump for the Iron Warrior's routine (at 29:26).
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nice find! (thanks)
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nice find! (thanks)
No problem. I bought the video for $4 two years ago on Amazon. The show was even better than I thought (and I saw the footage of the show a week after it happened on WWF Superstars).
This looks more like a 21st-century show than the IFBB shows do today. I remember picking either Eddie Robinson or Gary Strydom to win the show. I wasn't happy that Robinson placed 5th. I personally would have put him above "The Future" Jim Quinn (notwithstanding the fact that I dug Quinn's routine).
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Do you have 92, where Quinn was in full bulk mode and blamed it on Anabolic Diet (Dipasquale)?
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Ah yes, Lex Luger was awesome. Steroids runing rampant in the WWF back then rumored that Vince was the kingpin dealer. Hogan quit because he wouldn't testify against Vince
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Do you have 92, where Quinn was in full bulk mode and blamed it on Anabolic Diet (Dipasquale)?
Now why would you want to see Mike Quinn? I'm still a bit miffed that I plunked $15 to see that show on Pay-per-view.
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These guys were all smooth. Very beach body like.
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most looked offseason,or 4/5 wks out ifbb condition if we are comparing 'peak'condition.strydom great,demay very close to best,robinson took it seriously cause he turned pro 89 and actually won 90 niagra falls show he could have been great in prime ifbb if he did it 'oh well',Christian was about 85/90 his best,dearth again was a newer pro so he was pretty good,baker actually was smaller than when he won usa's /softer.rest were off as I stated 1st line.
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These guys were all smooth. Very beach body like.
Vince McMahon had a hard on for big bulky men.
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Do you have 92, where Quinn was in full bulk mode and blamed it on Anabolic Diet (Dipasquale)?
Here is the 1992 Championship. Since you're a glutton for punishment, Mike Quinn's routine is at 20:00.
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These guys were all smooth. Very beach body like.
Nothing "beach body" about these guys....well, except for Zuccolotto.
;D
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Tried to watch it but far too fruity pebbles for me. Vince McManmeat is a disgusting creature.
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Tried to watch it but far too fruity pebbles for me. Vince McManmeat is a disgusting creature.
Which one?
Vince McMahon isn't in the 1991 show. He does commentary on the 1992 show.
Besides, the guys are in a lot better shape in the '91 contest.
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Which is the one where Strydom comes out in a top hat and cane and the commentator just goes apeshit "Aaaaaa Back Double Biceps!" "Look at the striations!" It's hilarious
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Which is the one where Strydom comes out in a top hat and cane and the commentator just goes apeshit "Aaaaaa Back Double Biceps!" "Look at the striations!" It's hilarious
Neither.
As explained earlier, you are referring to the footage from the '91 show that was aired on BodyStars. On that clip, Vince McMahon's voice is dubbed over that of the actual commentators, Greg Lewis and Tom Platz. Plus, it's only part of Strydom's routine.
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I believe the drug testing accounts for the 'beach body' look of most the guys.
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I believe the drug testing accounts for the 'beach body' look of most the guys.
That's for the '92 show, not the '91 show.
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ahh...
all I remember is the Cybergenics ad's in my old WWF magazines. lol
actually... holy fuck, I forgot I actually USED 2 of those Cybergenics "Cycles". came in a big long box. lol.. forgot all about those.
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Which one?
Vince McMahon isn't in the 1991 show. He does commentary on the 1992 show.
Besides, the guys are in a lot better shape in the '91 contest.
Not sure which one clicked on and the briefly watched but in it during their posing routines many of them were behaving like pole dancers. Gross. I'm surprised the schmoes didn't throw dollars on the stage.
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Here is the 1992 Championship. Since you're a glutton for punishment, Mike Quinn's routine is at 20:00.
Thanks, have you EVER seen anyone compete in that condition? I guess he was contractually bound by McMahon.
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If Strydom had a good back, the 91 WBF showing would have been the greatest bodybuilding display of all time. No homo. The rest of his physique that was unmatched as far as the size, shape, condition, symmetry, etc. Yates was harder, but not as aesthetic. Ronnie's calves were pathetic and didn't have a very pleasing looking body. Strydom here was a huge Benfatto or Paris... Just with no back. It's a shame.
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what do u guys think of the guy at 47 minutes named johnnie morant? i was fortunate enough to train in gym he trained at(diamond gym) n at same time in morning. he was so huge it was unreal when u seen him in person, sick quads
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what do u guys think of the guy at 47 minutes named johnnie morant? i was fortunate enough to train in gym he trained at(diamond gym) n at same time in morning. he was so huge it was unreal when u seen him in person, sick quads
yep,legs like trees mass wise..shame he went there after turning pro only yr before ,in those shows he never got in good shape as when he won north america's he won same yr as lenda murray,,,
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yep,legs like trees mass wise..shame he went there after turning pro only yr before ,in those shows he never got in good shape as when he won north america's he won same yr as lenda murray,,,
Actually, Johnnie Morant competed in the IFBB after turning pro in 1989. He placed 4th at the 1990 Night of Champions, behind Danny Padilla, Dorian Yates, and the late Mohammed Benaziza.
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Not sure which one clicked on and the briefly watched but in it during their posing routines many of them were behaving like pole dancers. Gross. I'm surprised the schmoes didn't throw dollars on the stage.
If it's the girls in the sauna feeling up DeMey, that's the 1991 show.
If it's Robinson shooting ninjas, it's the 1992 version.
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If Strydom had a good back, the 91 WBF showing would have been the greatest bodybuilding display of all time. No homo. The rest of his physique that was unmatched as far as the size, shape, condition, symmetry, etc. Yates was harder, but not as aesthetic. Ronnie's calves were pathetic and didn't have a very pleasing looking body. Strydom here was a huge Benfatto or Paris... Just with no back. It's a shame.
But he didn't. Just like Nasser. And chances are, just like Nasser, Yates (with arms) would decimate Strydom, and so would Ronnie.
I was ways impressed by Strydom's delts and chest.
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But he didn't. Just like Nasser. And chances are, just like Nasser, Yates (with arms) would decimate Strydom, and so would Ronnie.
I was ways impressed by Strydom's delts and chest.
Not in 1991. Ronnie was still an amateur, just winning his class at the Universe when Strydom was WBF Champion.
As for Dorian, he'd just won the 1991 NOC, which Strydom won in 1988 (I think). But, of course that wasn't the Strydom of the early 90s.
Yates was basically Mike Christian with legs. So, the matchup would have been interesting. But, decimating Strydom? I'm not so sure of that.
If back were all it took to beat somebody, Tony Pearson and Mike Christian would have been Mr. Olympia or WBF Champion.
most looked offseason,or 4/5 wks out ifbb condition if we are comparing 'peak'condition.strydom great,demay very close to best,robinson took it seriously cause he turned pro 89 and actually won 90 niagra falls show he could have been great in prime ifbb if he did it 'oh well',Christian was about 85/90 his best,dearth again was a newer pro so he was pretty good,baker actually was smaller than when he won usa's /softer.rest were off as I stated 1st line.
You call this offseason?
(http://www.musclememory.com/magCovers/bl/bl0206.jpg)
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If Strydom had a good back, the 91 WBF showing would have been the greatest bodybuilding display of all time. No homo. The rest of his physique that was unmatched as far as the size, shape, condition, symmetry, etc. Yates was harder, but not as aesthetic. Ronnie's calves were pathetic and didn't have a very pleasing looking body. Strydom here was a huge Benfatto or Paris... Just with no back. It's a shame.
but he had no biceps either which hurts him in a million poses.
great legs delts and chest. good abs.
terrible back and no bis to speak of.
ronnie would crush him and so would yates.
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but he had no biceps either which hurts him in a million poses.
great legs delts and chest. good abs.
terrible back and no bis to speak of.
ronnie would crush him and so would yates.
In 1991? Yates....would have been interesting. Coleman? He was still an amateur. So neither one of them could have crushed Strydom then.
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Actually, Johnnie Morant competed in the IFBB after turning pro in 1989. He placed 4th at the 1990 Night of Champions, behind Danny Padilla, Dorian Yates, and the late Mohammed Benaziza.
ur right jim quinn won na's with lenda..
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Not in 1991. Ronnie was still an amateur, just winning his class at the Universe when Strydom was WBF Champion.
As for Dorian, he'd just won the 1991 NOC, which Strydom won in 1988 (I think). But, of course that wasn't the Strydom of the early 90s.
Yates was basically Mike Christian with legs. So, the matchup would have been interesting. But, decimating Strydom? I'm not so sure of that.
If back were all it took to beat somebody, Tony Pearson and Mike Christian would have been Mr. Olympia or WBF Champion.
You call this offseason?
(http://www.musclememory.com/magCovers/bl/bl0206.jpg)
thats top 5 guys rest.. were soft or smaller than used to seeing...as u stated morant was best in ifbb these shows not,baker too,padilla forget it,mquinn disaster both shows,dearth actually second show he looked better a bit ,baker looked better 2nd show and it was 'tested'.
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ur right jim quinn won na's with lenda..
Jim Quinn won the North American in 1990. Johnnie Morant won it in 1989, as did Lenda Murray.
Debbie Muggli won the women's North American title in 1990.
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thats top 5 guys rest.. were soft or smaller than used to seeing...as u stated morant was best in ifbb these shows not,baker too,padilla forget it,mquinn disaster both shows,dearth actually second show he looked better a bit ,baker looked better 2nd show and it was 'tested'.
Padilla placed 3rd at the 1990 NOC, actually beating Morant. At the Gold's Classic, he placed 2nd (after a 9-year reprieve) behind future-fellow-WBFer, Eddie Robinson.
Since you mentioned Baker, I've always stated that, if anyone should have been suspected of maybe bucking the test in 1992, it was the "Dark Angel". He was the only one who was actually bigger (and better) in '92 than in '91.
But, how would he do that? Mutiple WBF guys have stated everyone was tested. Christian (though he claimed Strydom was exempt) got popped and fined a month's salary ($25K).
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Padilla placed 3rd at the 1990 NOC, actually beating Morant. At the Gold's Classic, he placed 2nd (after a 9-year reprieve) behind future-fellow-WBFer, Eddie Robinson.
danny looked great in 90 so why did he fail to get in shape 91 wfb ?weird.
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danny looked great in 90 so why did he fail to get in shape 91 wfb ?weird.
I don't know. He was long in the tooth, as was "Jetman" Tony Pearson.
I thought Pearson got robbed in 1992. He should have made the top 5, instead of David Dearth (pyro guitar and all).
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I don't know. He was long in the tooth, as was "Jetman" Tony Pearson.
I thought Pearson got robbed in 1992. He should have made the top 5, instead of David Dearth (pyro guitar and all).
pearson looked great in upper body 92 as was baker smaller but ripped compared to 91 which wasn't tested.ihave those mags still lol...i was demey fan and it was the 1st time you saw the modern bbers late 80's guys or newer pro pale and softer ,true offseason in a mag.
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pearson looked great in upper body 92 as was baker smaller but ripped compared to 91 which wasn't tested.ihave those mags still lol...i was demey fan and it was the 1st time you saw the modern bbers late 80's guys or newer pro pale and softer ,true offseason in a mag.
Baker looked bigger to me in '92. Maybe it was his mane tied up that did the trick.
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Baker looked bigger to me in '92. Maybe it was his mane tied up that did the trick.
i think cause he was much harder than 91,the guy when he won usa was really good and then by 94/95 ifbb was huge as ever..
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i think cause he was much harder than 91,the guy when he won usa was really good and then by 94/95 ifbb was huge as ever..
Here's Baker in 1992 (at 1:05:21)
And here's Baker in 1991 (at 14:44)
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Not in 1991. Ronnie was still an amateur, just winning his class at the Universe when Strydom was WBF Champion.
As for Dorian, he'd just won the 1991 NOC, which Strydom won in 1988 (I think). But, of course that wasn't the Strydom of the early 90s.
Yates was basically Mike Christian with legs. So, the matchup would have been interesting. But, decimating Strydom? I'm not so sure of that.
If back were all it took to beat somebody, Tony Pearson and Mike Christian would have been Mr. Olympia or WBF Champion.
You call this offseason?
(http://www.musclememory.com/magCovers/bl/bl0206.jpg)
I'm talking about in the respective time periods--the Yatesian Era and Coleman Era.
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33.52 "It's amazing you can do that without steroids!"
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33.52 "It's amazing you can do that without steroids!"
You're referring to David Dearth's routine. I would have put Tony Pearson in the top 5, instead of him.
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Since so many folks are complaining about the 2014 Olymia, why not go back to (perhaps) a more entertaining show from 23 years ago?
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Vince McMahon had a hard on for big bulky men.
Where is that gif of him reacting to poses when you need it? ;D
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Bump for the Iron Warrior's routine (at 29:26).
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That's probably what Greene wanted to do to the judges at the O.
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To commemorate the 30-year anniversary......
June 15, 1991.
https://www.team-andro.com/tube/v/12231/
;D
"The Flexing Dutchman" Berry DeMey
"The Zuke" Troy Zuccolotto
"Mighty" Mike Quinn"
"The Executioner" Johnnie Morant
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"Rock & Roll Wild Child" David Dearth
"The Future" Jim Quinn
"The Giant Killer" Danny Padilla
Eddie Robinson (Major Guns nickname didn't come until 1992)
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"The Jetman" Tony Pearson
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Gary Strydom (eventual WBF champion)
I can't find the routines for "The Dark Angel", Aaron Baker, "The Iron Warrior", Mike Christian, or "The Phoenix" Vince Comeford on YouTube.
Their routines on the Team Andro link are located at 15:05, 29:50, and, 37:20, respectively.
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Thanks for the fun trip down memory lane, McWay.
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Was Strydom better than Haney from the front? He has my Vote.
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Thanks for the fun trip down memory lane, McWay.
You're welcome.
I really thought bodybuilding had finally hit the big time, when the WBF came to fruition:
- $100,000 prize money for the winner; Haney only got $60,000 for his 1990 Olympia win and $80,000 for his 1991 win.
- Bodybuilders featured every week on WWF Superstars and Wrestling Challenge.
- Quick contest results; the WBF Championships highlights occurred one week after the show vs. 3-6 months later in the magazines.
Even decades years later, the 1991 WBF Championship looks better than some Mr. Olympias have in recent years.
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WBF Top 5 Finalists:
The first World Bodybuilding Federation Champion, GARY STRYDOM!!!
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1991:
https://www.team-andro.com/tube/v/12231/
1992:
https://www.team-andro.com/tube/v/12232/
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Bodybuilding was so huge in 91. Being in South Jersey, our small gym rented a full sized school bus and we all saw this in Atlantic City in person. BB was still on ESPN and the Mr. O was a big thing that folks got real excited about in the gym.
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Bodybuilding was so huge in 91. Being in South Jersey, our small gym rented a full sized school bus and we all saw this in Atlantic City in person. BB was still on ESPN and the Mr. O was a big thing that folks got real excited about in the gym.
You got to see this live, what luck.
I don't remember this being advertised on PPV or I would have tried to watch it. I only saw the highlights on WWF Superstars a week later.
I did get to see the 1992 show, though (cost me $15) :(. It was the first bodybuilding show I'd ever seen on the day it actually occurred.
Bodybuilding was on ESPN but you had to wait until 2 or 3 am to watch it most of the time.
Plus, you got to see the contests 3-6 months after they happened. They did have "Bodyshaping", first with Cory Everson; then with a team of Rick Valente (Mr. Florida), Kiana Tom, and one other girl. Lee Haney had his own show as well; my favorite was when he had Debbie Kruck as his co-host.
1991:
https://www.team-andro.com/tube/v/12231/
1992:
https://www.team-andro.com/tube/v/12232/
I already put up the Team Andro link on the previous page, mainly because I couldn't find the routines for Christian, Baker, or Comeford on YouTube.
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And (just before the proverbial hammer came down), there was WBF Bodystars, which is where I saw more of the posing routines from the 1991 show.
Some had no commentary; others, as I learned later, had Vince McMahon voice-overs (including the infamous one with Stardom).
Finally, I thought, bodybuilding was on TV every week, not every three months at zero-dark-thirty in the morning.
Training Clip: Jim Quinn (2nd place, 1992 WBF Championship) - Chest.
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Promos for the 1991 WBF Championship, aired on WWF Wrestling Challenge and WWF Superstars.
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I didn't see the episode of Bodystars with this clip, back in 1992.
USA Network aired WBF Bodystars. But SkySports in England aired the show there, which was called WBF Bodystars America.
Some UHF (and apparently, from this clip, VHF) stations that aired WWF wrestling also aired WBF Bodystars America. Back in the day in my home, the Tampa Bay area, channel 32 aired this at 4:30 pm vs. USA airing Bodystars at 11 am.
That worked for me because I didn't have to ask my mom or stepfather to record it for me anymore; nor did I need cable in my room to watch it either.
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Mike Christian's 1991 routine @ 32:45 :
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Mike Christian 2019
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My nikka
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Mike Christian's 1991 routine @ 32:45 :
Thanks! This was one of my favorite routines. Some have argued that this was his best shape ever. Others claim it was the 1990 Olympia.
He's not as cut in 1991 as he was in 1990. But, BOY, does he look bigger, fuller, and healthier.
I didn't see the episode of Bodystars with this clip, back in 1992.
USA Network aired WBF Bodystars. But SkySports in England aired the show there, which was called WBF Bodystars America.
Some UHF (and apparently, from this clip, VHF) stations that aired WWF wrestling also aired WBF Bodystars America. Back in the day in my home, the Tampa Bay area, channel 32 aired this at 4:30 pm vs. USA airing Bodystars at 11 am.
That worked for me because I didn't have to ask my mom or stepfather to record it for me anymore; nor did I need cable in my room to watch it either.
If this is FIBO and it's about guest posing, I wonder why they didn't let Lex Luger flex next to the WBF pros.