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Leg extensions they place more stress on your knees than squats
The pec deck It over stretch the front of the shoulder and cause the muscle at the back of the should to stiffen, this equal future shoulder problems
The smith machine Puts you in an unnatural position that puts a lot of stress on the lower back and knees,
And most importantly with machines you dont work your stabilizer muscles while the muscle gets stronger this can lead to injuries in the future, Free weights are the way to go, I know most of you are afraid because its a harder workout and you prefer the easy way of putting your lazy ass in a machine and pump out a few reps but you are fucking up your body and you dont even know it.
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Leg extensions they place more stress on your knees than squats
The pec deck It over stretch the front of the shoulder and cause the muscle at the back of the should to stiffen, this equal future shoulder problems
The smith machine Puts you in an unnatural position that puts a lot of stress on the lower back and knees,
And most importantly with machines you dont work your stabilizer muscles while the muscle gets stronger this can lead to injuries in the future, Free weights are the way to go, I know most of you are afraid because its a harder workout and you prefer the easy way of putting your lazy ass in a machine and pump out a few reps but you are fucking up your body and you dont even know it.
I couldn't hate the smith machine more, its not possible. Fuck you to whoever invented it! Have seen numerous blokes nearly kill themselves, literally on this dastardly contraption. One dude doing squats had the machine slide backwards cuz the fucktard gym owner never pinned the machine to the ground and nearly was decapitated when he fell on his back and the bar just missed his neck.
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Leg extensions they place more stress on your knees than squats
The pec deck It over stretch the front of the shoulder and cause the muscle at the back of the should to stiffen, this equal future shoulder problems
The smith machine Puts you in an unnatural position that puts a lot of stress on the lower back and knees,
And most importantly with machines you dont work your stabilizer muscles while the muscle gets stronger this can lead to injuries in the future, Free weights are the way to go, I know most of you are afraid because its a harder workout and you prefer the easy way of putting your lazy ass in a machine and pump out a few reps but you are fucking up your body and you dont even know it.
care to post some good free leg workouts??(tear drops, hamstrings, glutes)
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the trainer dropping some real knowlegde here ... I take it his 2 1/2 years in the gym taught him this wisdom
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care to post some good free leg workouts??(tear drops, hamstrings, glutes)
This workout is hard but your legs are going to blowup.
Start out with squats always start light and work your way up, then go to lunges barbell or dumbbells are fine, then stiff legged deadlifts, a gym buddy of mine that only does leg press and hack squats and the smith machine trained legs with me the other day and after he told me it was the first time his legs got sore in recent memory, that is what happens when you do this kind of workout.
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You can alway add leg press and hack squats in the mix but they should never be the foundation of your workout.
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haven't used machines in years. I used to have sore joints all the time, now I've been using free weights only and no joint pain
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"the trainer", can you post a picture to exemplify the tremendous physique such knowledge built? I am sure it's really impressive. Cannot wait to see it
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haven't used machines in years. I used to have sore joints all the time, now I've been using free weights only and no joint pain
It's because youre fat
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This workout is hard but your legs are going to blowup.
Start out with squats always start light and work your way up, then go to lunges barbell or dumbbells are fine, then stiff legged deadlifts, a gym buddy of mine that only does leg press and hack squats and the smith machine trained legs with me the other day and after he told me it was the first time his legs got sore in recent memory, that is what happens when you do this kind of workout.
thanks.. will try tomorrow.. 'cus friday is leg day :'( :P
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It's because youre fat
hahaha, sad pathetic groink. 40 year old drunk driver trying to act young. Do you wear a backwards hat with your string tank top acting all dope?
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hahaha, sad pathetic groink. 40 year old drunk driver trying to act young. Do you wear a backwards hat with your string tank top acting all dope?
did you ever post a pic chubby?
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What destroy the joints/tendons is not the fact of doing free wieghts or machines. Actually only reason people screw their knees and joints is because they only care about moving lots of weight regardless of the form...
Dont lift for ego, put some managable weight and do perfect form. I like high intensity high reps...
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"the trainer", can you post a picture to exemplify the tremendous physique such knowledge built? I am sure it's really impressive. Cannot wait to see it
Too many stalkers and headcases on here for me to post picture but I have being working out non stop for over 12 years so go figure.
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What destroy the joints/tendons is not the fact of doing free wieghts or machines. Actually only reason people screw their knees and joints is because they only care about moving lots of weight regardless of the form...
Dont lift for ego, put some managable weight and do perfect form. I like high intensity high reps...
same here .. mind muscle connection and control builds a winning physique without medical intervention
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thanks.. will try tomorrow.. 'cus friday is leg day :'( :P
If you go to failure you will be sore over the weekend keep it up for a month and you should see improvement in your legs.
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hahaha, sad pathetic groink. 40 year old drunk driver trying to act young. Do you wear a backwards hat with your string tank top acting all dope?
Yes it's SO sad and pathetic knowing I'm 20 years older than you...and any woman on the planet would push you out of the way to get to me. 8)
tell me..did you wear your hat backwards in vegas as you "kicked everyone's ass" in your mind ?
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Too many stalkers and headcases on here for me to post picture but I have being working out non stop for over 12 years so go figure.
:D :D :D
translation: I look like shit so I won't post pics
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I couldn't hate the smith machine more, its not possible. Fuck you to whoever invented it! Have seen numerous blokes nearly kill themselves, literally on this dastardly contraption. One dude doing squats had the machine slide backwards cuz the fucktard gym owner never pinned the machine to the ground and nearly was decapitated when he fell on his back and the bar just missed his neck.
Gym owner probably left the machine like this on purpose so that would happen to people squatting using a smith machine.
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Personally I find that I get way more size and shape in my quads from leg press than squats.
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Personally I find that I get way more size and shape in my quads from leg press than squats.
Probably over 6' tall.
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Probably over 6' tall.
Nope lol...5'-8"
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Only machines I use are the preacher curls machine, Hammer Strength machines for chest and maybe on occasion the shoulder press machine. Though the shoulder press is ALWAYS on an awkward fucking angle.
My current gym is too small for a heap of machines. It's either weights or nothing.
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Personally I find that I get way more size and shape in my quads from leg press than squats.
Science has proven that no other exercise works as much muscle fibers in the legs as squat, so maybe you are not doing them correctly.
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I think I will take the advice of jay cutler bro
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-cjB6kKnkcjA/UFUIkJd9uyI/AAAAAAAAB5I/Ls0UWJk7Jvg/s1600/GYM+PEC+DECK.jpg)
Which Cutler is that?
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Science has proven that no other exercise works as much muscle fibers in the legs as squat, so maybe you are not doing them correctly.
Or maybe these "scientists" weren't doing the leg press correctly.
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It's because youre fat
Lol made me chuckle.....really
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I'm starting to think it doesn't matter 'which' exercise you're doing, as long as you're stressing the hairy c/unt out of the muscle. And I'm also starting to think that 'overtraining' is overrated.
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light bench press in the smith is one of the best chest exercises you will ever do.
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I have shitty shoulders, using hammer machine and pec dec are the only things that aren't aggravating them at moment ???
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light bench press in the smith is one of the best chest exercises you will ever do.
This..put a 25 under one end of the bench..slight decline.....like butter
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leg press is the worst... if u did them how i did them... knees to chest, kills your back
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Machines are safer when your going for the 'health look'.
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I have shitty shoulders, using hammer machine and pec dec are the only things that aren't aggravating them at moment ???
try using dumbbells and find an angle where you are not feeling the pain and do the pressing there.
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Leg extensions they place more stress on your knees than squats
The pec deck It over stretch the front of the shoulder and cause the muscle at the back of the should to stiffen, this equal future shoulder problems
The smith machine Puts you in an unnatural position that puts a lot of stress on the lower back and knees,
And most importantly with machines you dont work your stabilizer muscles while the muscle gets stronger this can lead to injuries in the future, Free weights are the way to go, I know most of you are afraid because its a harder workout and you prefer the easy way of putting your lazy ass in a machine and pump out a few reps but you are fucking up your body and you dont even know it.
Agreed, Leg Extensions can still be beneficial though, just lighten the weight. Too many people do heavy leg extensions which equals future knee problems. The leg wasn't designed to be extended in such a way with heavy weight resistance.
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What destroy the joints/tendons is not the fact of doing free wieghts or machines. Actually only reason people screw their knees and joints is because they only care about moving lots of weight regardless of the form...
Dont lift for ego, put some managable weight and do perfect form. I like high intensity high reps...
yep. the muscle doesnt know the difference between what you are doing..it doesnt have a brain. it just knows stress.
fact is that free weights arent as effective as certain machines that have cams and cables.. because you can only work against gravity and where your skeleton puts a pivot.
leg press is superior to squats for leg development, and cable curls with a cam superior to free weight leg curls. any pec excerise that works on bringing the arms across the body through the shoulder as a pivot is superior to bench press, and so on..
anyone who says machines are better than free weights just doesnt understand mechanics of movement and where the muscles insert relative to the skeletal pivots,.
thats why physios, doctors and body professionals etc have degrees, and weight trainers generally are dumb fucks..leave the science to the scientists and stop making shit up that you dont understand.
even better, study some kind of engineering or physics and then see if you still believe what you do.
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ive always believed that a combination of free weights n machines(hammer strength) worked best for me, i think both work great together n benefit a lifter alot