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Title: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: blacken700 on March 20, 2014, 12:10:46 PM
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 20, 2014, 12:18:19 PM
My 1300 more a year and 6500 higher deductible is BS to you? 
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: OzmO on March 20, 2014, 12:25:07 PM
My 1300 more a year and 6500 higher deductible is BS to you? 

68% cost increase for me.

Easy to sign up for though.   ::)
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: blacken700 on March 20, 2014, 12:32:57 PM
68% cost increase for me.

Easy to sign up for though.   ::)

again I think this post was on this ad

maybe soul crusher they can use you on the next ad,showing you trying to open a water bottle saying you can't open it because you can't afford your arthritis meds because of Obama care  :D
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 20, 2014, 12:34:52 PM
again I think this post was on this ad

maybe soul crusher they can use you on the next ad,showing you trying to open a water bottle saying you can't open it because you can't afford your arthritis meds because of Obama care  :D

Or maybe we can just use Obama's own promises he made over and over and over about keeping your plan, doctor, and saving 2500 a year perhaps? 
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: James28 on March 20, 2014, 12:46:18 PM
again I think this post was on this ad

maybe soul crusher they can use you on the next ad,showing you trying to open a water bottle saying you can't open it because you can't afford your arthritis meds because of Obama care  :D

As bad as SC can get, you appear like the type that would excuse Obama for pedophilia.

Do you think his administration has been good for the country?
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 20, 2014, 12:50:17 PM
All I know is my personal situation and those around me.   Not one has seen a decrease in rates or costs.  I don't need to see ads with people in it and their situations.  I and those around me live this garbage. 

Skyrocketing costs and mandates directly as a result of obamacare.  If they run some stupid ad like this - does not change my personal situation at all. 
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: blacken700 on March 20, 2014, 12:55:03 PM
All I know is my personal situation and those around me.   Not one has seen a decrease in rates or costs.  I don't need to see ads with people in it and their situations.  I and those around me live this garbage. 

Skyrocketing costs and mandates directly as a result of obamacare.  If they run some stupid ad like this - does not change my personal situation at all. 

if it's all around you why do they have to run bogus ads
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: dario73 on March 20, 2014, 01:08:35 PM
My 1300 more a year and 6500 higher deductible is BS to you? 

Reid says you are lying.
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 20, 2014, 01:08:46 PM
if it's all around you why do they have to run bogus ads

Don't ask me - all you need are to read the posts of those on this site who are being ripped off due to obamacare - its not a joke - its real life.

But because of blind cultish creepy religious devotion to o-choom - you could care less so long as that asshole is kept out of the cross fire
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: dario73 on March 20, 2014, 01:09:11 PM
68% cost increase for me.

Easy to sign up for though.   ::)

You are a liar. Reid says so.
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: loco on March 20, 2014, 01:13:41 PM
:D

Millions of Americans lost their health insurance coverage starting October 1st, 2013 because of Obamacare.  Then they were unable to sign up for a new insurance policy because of the broken Obamacare website.  Now, that's heart breaking.

And you think that's a laughing matter?
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: blacken700 on March 20, 2014, 01:14:30 PM
mine didn't go up any more than it has in the last 10 years,nobody I know has said their insurance went up.i don't know why is that
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: StreetSoldier4U on March 20, 2014, 01:16:44 PM
All you have to do is turn off your cable, Internet and cell phone and you can afford your insurance. Its all about priorities and proper budgeting.     The president said so.   But god forbid you ask a person on gov benefits to budget and get an ID card to vote. Thats asking to much.
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 20, 2014, 01:18:15 PM
mine didn't go up any more than it has in the last 10 years,nobody I know has said their insurance went up.i don't know why is that

Obama promised a $2500 decrease remember? 
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: dario73 on March 20, 2014, 01:19:01 PM
Did anyone watch the video?

That idiot and the OP, a bigger idiot, do not understand  how health insurande works.

Her yearly premium is lower by $1,000 a year but her DEDUCTIBLE is higher.

I want to know much higher. Because that is the trick here people. ACA hikes your deductible from $500 to $2500 in order to even attempt to give you a lower premium.

If her deductible went up by $2000, she isn't saving anything. She is actually spending $1000 more.
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: blacken700 on March 20, 2014, 01:19:12 PM
Millions of Americans lost their health insurance coverage starting October 1st, 2013 because of Obamacare.  Then they were unable to sign up for a new insurance policy because of the broken Obamacare website.  Now, that's heart breaking.

And you think that's a laughing matter?

nice how you don't put the rest of the sentence in,to be expected of you.your probably not known for your honesty
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: dario73 on March 20, 2014, 01:20:18 PM
Obama promised a $2500 decrease remember?  

HEHEEE!!

That is what the OP misses here. But, he is a moron. What do you expect from such a fool?

Then he says he doesn't know anyone whose premium increased. Him, his friends if he has any and his family must be at the poverty level.
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 20, 2014, 01:33:53 PM
If her deductible goes up by 6500 like most have but she does not have the 6500 in savings ?  Than her costs are going up if the premium stays the same or is even a little lower since she will have to spend that out of pocket before even the insurance kicks in.

ObamaCare is a DISASTER financially for most people
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: blacken700 on March 20, 2014, 01:42:01 PM
sorry to burst your bubble


By contrast, the Blues’ plan premium costs $571 a month or $6,852 for the year. Since out-of-pocket costs are capped at $5,100, including deductibles, the maximum Boonstra would pay this year for all of her cancer treatment is $11,952.
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: blacken700 on March 20, 2014, 01:43:16 PM
HEHEEE!!

That is what the OP misses here. But, he is a moron. What do you expect from such a fool?

Then he says he doesn't know anyone whose premium increased. Him, his friends if he has any and his family must be at the poverty level.


just curious who the moron is now lol
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 20, 2014, 01:45:19 PM
sorry to burst your bubble


By contrast, the Blues’ plan premium costs $571 a month or $6,852 for the year. Since out-of-pocket costs are capped at $5,100, including deductibles, the maximum Boonstra would pay this year for all of her cancer treatment is $11,952.

And what was it before obamacare? 
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: blacken700 on March 20, 2014, 01:48:27 PM
Boonstra’s old plan cost $1,100 a month in premiums or $13,200 a year  do the math my boy
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: blacken700 on March 20, 2014, 01:54:34 PM
silence is deafening  :o
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: StreetSoldier4U on March 20, 2014, 01:54:38 PM
Boonstra’s old plan cost $1,100 a month in premiums or $13,200 a year  do the math my boy

Where did you get this information
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: RRKore on March 20, 2014, 02:05:49 PM
Where did you get this information

I read about this on Daily Kos maybe about 10 days ago.  The slant of that article was that the woman was taken advantage of by folks that wanted to put together the ad, I think. 

When it was first pointed out to her that she would actually be saving money, she refused to believe it, poor thing.

Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: blacken700 on March 20, 2014, 02:09:32 PM
HEHEEE!!

That is what the OP misses here. But, he is a moron. What do you expect from such a fool?

Then he says he doesn't know anyone whose premium increased. Him, his friends if he has any and his family must be at the poverty level.


so I guess this makes you the moron,but we already knew that didn't we ;D
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: dario73 on March 20, 2014, 02:10:39 PM
http://www.ksl.com/?sid=27834668


 
KAYSVILLE — Having a child diagnosed with cancer is an unimaginable ordeal for any family, and adding any challenges on top of it can seem overwhelming.

Paul and Jami Porter of Kaysville learned last week their insurance plan was terminated under the Affordable Care Act, more than 3 1/2 months into their daughter's fight with undifferentiated sarcoma began.


Read more at http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=27834668#bLjhhyzqMzGvtESJ.99

Silence!
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: dario73 on March 20, 2014, 02:15:12 PM
so I guess this makes you the moron,but we already knew that didn't we ;D

Ah, you are still the moron because that post was to Soul Crusher's comment that Obama claimed that premiums would decrease by $2500.

Did this woman's premium decrease by $2500? It didn't.

Did Soul Crusher's premium decrease by $2500? No.

You are too stupid to understand that for every person whose premium has decreased, there is someone whose premium is going up to subsidize that decrease.

That is not what your idol claimed was going to happen.

So no. You are still the only moron here, Harry Reid Jr.



Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: blacken700 on March 20, 2014, 02:23:18 PM
Ah, you are still the moron because that post was to Soul Crusher's comment that Obama claimed that premiums would decrease by $2500.

Did this woman's premium decrease by $2500? It didn't.

Did Soul Crusher's premium decrease by $2500? No.

You are too stupid to understand that for every person whose premium has decreased, there is someone whose premium is going up to subsidize that decrease.

That is not what your idol claimed was going to happen.

So no. You are still the only moron here, Harry Reid Jr.





instead of checking facts you just run and jump,you know like an idiot.thats why your part of the stupid party.until they kick morons like you to the side they will have that name :D
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: dario73 on March 20, 2014, 02:30:54 PM
There is no such thing as a decrease of $2500.

There's no 3000% decrease in premium for employees.

You can't keep your doctor.

You can't keep your insurance plan.

You can only get a lower premium by getting a jacked up deductible and your neighbor paying for you. The OP is happy with stealing from his neighbor.

Yet, the OP pulls 1 ad out of so many stories of people who have lost their insurance and DID NOT GET BETTER COVERAGE NOR LESSER PREMIUM.

BUT, hey, he FOUND ONE AD that is not true. Yeah, that discounts all the other 6 million people that lost their insurance and it erases every lie by the joke in the white house.

HEHEHEHEHEH!!
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: OzmO on March 20, 2014, 02:32:03 PM
Why is this even a argument?


Who here has had their premiums decrease and deductibles decrease that were affected by the FIRST PHASE OF  THE ACA?


The "affordable car act"  what a fucking lie
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: dario73 on March 20, 2014, 02:32:28 PM
http://www.ksl.com/?sid=27834668


 
KAYSVILLE — Having a child diagnosed with cancer is an unimaginable ordeal for any family, and adding any challenges on top of it can seem overwhelming.

Paul and Jami Porter of Kaysville learned last week their insurance plan was terminated under the Affordable Care Act, more than 3 1/2 months into their daughter's fight with undifferentiated sarcoma began.


Read more at http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=27834668#bLjhhyzqMzGvtESJ.99

Crickets
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: dario73 on March 20, 2014, 02:39:15 PM
Let me ask the OP.

Are you claiming that there is not a person in this nation whose premium didn't increase?

There are 4 posting on this thread whose premium increased.


So are they full of BS?

If our premiums increased, doesn't that mean your messiah lied?
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: OzmO on March 20, 2014, 02:49:30 PM
Its all good......


So you are a fanatical democrat.  But you can't even acknowledge the turd the ACA is?


Something is wrong with you if you are.


Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: RagingBull on March 20, 2014, 03:01:59 PM
My deductible went from $1500 to $5000 and my premium went up $70.00.
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: blacken700 on March 20, 2014, 03:34:32 PM
to answer the getbig bigot,he knows who he is .show me where I said no ones premium went up.i said mine didn't go up any more than normal and I didn 't know anyone personally that their insurance went up.and about the ad what I said is why do the have to run a bullshit ad and not just run a real ad,doesn't help their cause
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 20, 2014, 03:36:23 PM
to answer the getbig bigot,he knows who he is .show me where I said no ones premium went up.i said mine didn't go up any more than normal and I didn 't know anyone personally that their insurance went up.and about the ad what I said is why do the have to run a bullshit ad and not just run a real ad,doesn't help their cause

THAT IS NOT WHAT WAS PROMISED MORON 
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: blacken700 on March 20, 2014, 03:39:58 PM
your in a sad state when you believe a politician,how old are you
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 20, 2014, 03:40:37 PM
your in a sad state when you believe a politician,how old are you

so now its my fault right? 

F Obama - he is a lying pos
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: blacken700 on March 20, 2014, 03:42:46 PM
do you always believe politicians,if you do,don't
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: 24KT on March 20, 2014, 06:17:08 PM
Why is this even a argument?


Who here has had their premiums decrease and deductibles decrease that were affected by the FIRST PHASE OF  THE ACA?


The "affordable car act"  what a fucking lie

Actually i havent seen any changes at all in neither my premiums nor my out-of-pocket costs for healthcare ;D
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: Shockwave on March 20, 2014, 06:41:01 PM
mine didn't go up any more than it has in the last 10 years,nobody I know has said their insurance went up.i don't know why is that
Thats because you have no friends and no one in the real world  will actually engage you in conversation.

No offense.
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: Roger Bacon on March 20, 2014, 08:16:35 PM
My 1300 more a year and 6500 higher deductible is BS to you? 

You can afford it though, Obama's sons like blacken007 can't....
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: 240 is Back on March 20, 2014, 10:26:18 PM
g
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: loco on March 21, 2014, 05:12:15 AM
nice how you don't put the rest of the sentence in,to be expected of you.your probably not known for your honesty

The rest of what sentence?  What are you talking about?  And why would you say that I'm not known for my honesty?  Can you substantiate that accusation?
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: blacken700 on March 21, 2014, 05:19:06 AM
where's the post where all I have is a cheesy face?
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 21, 2014, 05:19:51 AM
where's the post where all I have is a cheesy face?

How much do they pay you to post this idiocy?
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: dario73 on March 21, 2014, 05:20:04 AM
Cancel your cell phone to pay for a program forced on you by the federal program. ::)

You can choose to pay for a cell phone, you don't have the choice to not carry health insurance without being penalized.

By the way. Average cell phone bill is about $90 a month. Average silver plan in crapcare is $249 a month.

That is like saying tax the rich 100% in order to bring down the deficit. It won't make a difference.
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: loco on March 21, 2014, 05:25:52 AM
where's the post where all I have is a cheesy face?

What?  Are you talking about your quote?  Follow the link.  Not sure I understand.  Is you drinking or something?
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 21, 2014, 05:28:16 AM
Cancel your cell phone to pay for a program forced on you by the federal program. ::)

You can choose to pay for a cell phone, you don't have the choice to not carry health insurance without being penalized.

By the way. Average cell phone bill is about $90 a month. Average silver plan in crapcare is $249 a month.

That is like saying tax the rich 100% in order to bring down the deficit. It won't make a difference.

To a democrat cultist communist fuck - if you go broke paying for obamacare - just go on welfare and sign up for obamaphone. 
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: blacken700 on March 21, 2014, 05:44:29 AM
The rest of what sentence?  What are you talking about?  And why would you say that I'm not known for my honesty?  Can you substantiate that accusation?

again I think this post was on this ad

maybe soul crusher they can use you on the next ad,showing you trying to open a water bottle saying you can't open it because you can't afford your arthritis meds because of Obama care  :D

this is the full quote I posted it had the cheesy grin at the end,as you can see the grin was for the joke about soul crusher not about people without health care. you quoted just the grin to insinuate that I was making fun of people losing health insurance     reply #11 first page
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 21, 2014, 05:46:30 AM
You can keep your plan - lie

You can keep your doctor - lie

Family will get 2500 reduction - lie

Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: blacken700 on March 21, 2014, 05:48:19 AM
You can keep your plan - lie

You can keep your doctor - lie

Family will get 2500 reduction - lie



I have my plan
I have my doctor
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 21, 2014, 05:49:11 AM
I have my plan
I have my doctor

STFU liar - you have welfare and obamaphone
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: RRKore on March 21, 2014, 05:51:51 AM
How much do they pay you to post this idiocy?

SC, you are the last person who should be asking this question of anyone ('cept yourself, of course).
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 21, 2014, 05:52:34 AM
SC, you are the last person who should be asking this question of anyone ('cept yourself, of course).

Really?  Show me even one post ever shilling for the republicans
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: loco on March 21, 2014, 05:55:56 AM
this is the full quote I posted it had the cheesy grin at the end,as you can see the grin was for the joke about soul crusher not about people without health care. you quoted just the grin to insinuate that I was making fun of people losing health insurance     reply #11 first page

Why didn't you just say I left out the rest of your quote?  You said I didn't "put the rest of the sentence."   So I thought you were talking about my post, not yours.

My post was in response to your laughing face and cheerful attitude throughout this thread on the topic of health care.  I would normally highlight a word or two in your quote for emphasis and not leave the rest of it out, but I can't highlight an image of a laughing face.
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: RRKore on March 21, 2014, 06:15:02 AM
Really?  Show me even one post ever shilling for the republicans

Seriously? 

You don't think that constantly criticizing Obama and liberals in general (for offenses of which some are valid and others ridiculously not so) should be considered shilling for the Republicans? 

You know there are really only 2 political parties in the USA, right?

On second thought, maybe it IS unlikely that any Repubs would pay you for daily frothing at the mouth over the evil Dems since there's very little chance that any independent voter would be swayed by your ranting.  You certainly aren't likely to be changing anyone's mind and reasonable Repubs would likely just be embarrassed by a lot of things you say.
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: loco on March 21, 2014, 06:25:49 AM
Seriously? 

You don't think that constantly criticizing Obama and liberals in general (for offenses of which some are valid and others ridiculously not so) should be considered shilling for the Republicans? 

You know there are really only 2 political parties in the USA, right?

On second thought, maybe it IS unlikely that any Repubs would pay you for daily frothing at the mouth over the evil Dems since there's very little chance that any independent voter would be swayed by your ranting.  You certainly aren't likely to be changing anyone's mind and reasonable Repubs would likely just be embarrassed by a lot of things you say.

Not necessarily.

Seymour Hersh and Ralph Nader, both liberal W. Bush haters, yet both believe Obama is much worse than Bush.

Seymour Hersh "is adamant that Obama is worse than Bush."
http://www.theguardian.com/media/media-blog/2013/sep/27/seymour-hersh-obama-nsa-american-media

Ralph Nader Blasts Minimum Wage, Obama: 'Has There Ever Been A Bigger' White House 'Con Man'?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/13/ralph-nader-minimum-wage_n_3437545.html

Ralph Nader: Barack Obama is worse than George W. Bush
http://www.examiner.com/article/ralph-nader-barack-obama-is-worse-than-george-w-bush-video

I don't believe that Hersh and Nader are getting paid to say these things.
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 21, 2014, 06:27:59 AM
Seriously? 

You don't think that constantly criticizing Obama and liberals in general (for offenses of which some are valid and others ridiculously not so) should be considered shilling for the Republicans? 

You know there are really only 2 political parties in the USA, right?

On second thought, maybe it IS unlikely that any Repubs would pay you for daily frothing at the mouth over the evil Dems since there's very little chance that any independent voter would be swayed by your ranting.  You certainly aren't likely to be changing anyone's mind and reasonable Repubs would likely just be embarrassed by a lot of things you say.

I left the GOP in 2005 due to W's actions and criticize repubs all the time
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: Montague on March 21, 2014, 06:29:22 AM
mine didn't go up any more than it has in the last 10 years,nobody I know has said their insurance went up.i don't know why is that


My health insurance premium went up a nominal amount, but my deductibles shot through the roof. My company even distributed an email prior to open enrollment explaining the restructuring and explicitly attributing the changes to the Affordable Care Act.
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: loco on March 21, 2014, 06:42:40 AM

My health insurance premium went up a nominal amount, but my deductibles shot through the roof. My company even distributed an email prior to open enrollment explaining the restructuring and explicitly attributing the changes to the Affordable Care Act.

Got friends working in the USA who said the same thing happened to them.  For employees who are single, both premiums and deductibles went up some.  However, for employees who are married with children and include their family in the policy, both premiums and deductibles shot through the roof.  It was like a mule kick to the face, one said.  They too received an email from their employer explicitly attributing the increases to the Affordable Care Act.
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: RRKore on March 21, 2014, 06:53:25 AM
Not necessarily.

Seymour Hersh and Ralph Nader, both liberal W. Bush haters, yet both believe Obama is much worse than Bush.

Seymour Hersh "is adamant that Obama is worse than Bush."
http://www.theguardian.com/media/media-blog/2013/sep/27/seymour-hersh-obama-nsa-american-media

Ralph Nader Blasts Minimum Wage, Obama: 'Has There Ever Been A Bigger' White House 'Con Man'?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/13/ralph-nader-minimum-wage_n_3437545.html

Ralph Nader: Barack Obama is worse than George W. Bush
http://www.examiner.com/article/ralph-nader-barack-obama-is-worse-than-george-w-bush-video

I don't believe that Hersh and Nader are getting paid to say these things.

Legitimately good point.

Don't forget about the "idiocy" part, though.

Even folks that hate Hersh and Nader might call them "useful idiots" but I don't think anyone thinks they're really "idiots".

SC's original question (that I questioned) was "How much do they pay you to post this idiocy?"

Pretty sure that even the most committed conservatives here will admit, at least privately, that SC spouts a lot of idiocy on this board.
Title: Re: Heart-Breaking Anti-Obamacare Ad Shows Woman Suffering From Bullshit
Post by: Montague on March 21, 2014, 10:26:32 AM
Got friends working in the USA who said the same thing happened to them.  For employees who are single, both premiums and deductibles went up some.  However, for employees who are married with children and include their family in the policy, both premiums and deductibles shot through the roof.  It was like a mule kick to the face, one said.  They too received an email from their employer explicitly attributing the increases to the Affordable Care Act.


These companies no doubt expect some degree of employee backlash over the changes and are attempting to make it very clear that the changes were forced on them.