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any of you ever hear of this? no, cause it doesn't exist. I came upon it based on my own experiences and trial and error after years of trying everything under the sun.
ever wonder why your diet fails fails you? Macros are macros and cals are cals. so in essence ANY diet should work. calorie deficit = weight loss.
that being said, if it's not the nuts and bolts of cals in vs cals expended that fails you, then what is it?
YOU fail you. you as in your inability to stay on your diet.
ever wonder why you can't stay on a diet while others can just grind out month after month with no problems and end up shredded? it's because they, accidentally, have discovered a way of dieting that agreed with their personality.
think about it. I know myself I am all or nothing. I can't have x amount of carbs, x amount of protein, x amounts of fat. why? cause I will not adhere to it. why can't I not adhere to it? because if I can eat carbs and stay within my daily cal intake, guess what- a majority of my cals will come from carbs. why? because I'm allowed them. I am not regimented enough to measure foods, prepare meals, and whatnot. I need simplicity and absolutes. therefor ketogenic dieting fits me to a T.
there is no carbs. if there's no carbs I simply don't crave them. my personality doesn't let me crave then because they just simply are not allowed. so what then can I eat? protein and fat. and as a result I always hit my protein goal for your day. always. cause it's the only cals I can eat. that combined w fasting and an extreme cal deficit (ie the Galeniko method) works amazingly for me because there it is hard and all or nothing.
I urge you to take into account your personalities next time you diet. are you highly regimented highly organized? chances are a 30/30/30 or some other kind of macro provisioning diet is right up your alley. you'll stay on it cause it suits your personality.
no diet will or can work if you don't stay on it. if your not having much success dieting maybe look at your personality, then build your diet around that.
cheers.
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Solid post
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It takes a determined and focused mindset to eat strict for lengthly periods......especially at the start of the diet.
For me,once I go 2-3 weeks,it`s all tunnellvision with no cheating................ just comes easy at that point for me and I`ve eaten clean for almost a whole year at times.
When I say clean,I mean fucking Spartanlike.
Too easy.........for me anyway, awhat with my superior mind! :D
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I experimented with diets in order to find the healthiest compromise and a balanced diet people can shape up and feel good not a grueling contest.
I liked my 100/100/100 diet. 100g of protein, 100g of carbs and 100g of fats .. or variations on this theme.
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which chapter of the book is this in?
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i dont believe in dieting
i only believe in steroids and genetics
(http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq145/bianconero8/paul_dillet9-1.jpg)
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which chapter of the book is this in?
no chapter bro. just our commitment to keep updating everyone with whatever we discover as we fine tune and find things we can add in to help everyone become successful with their journey.
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which chapter of the book is this in?
You're fat
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I experimented with diets in order to find the healthiest compromise and a balanced diet people can shape up and feel good not a grueling contest.
I liked my 100/100/100 diet. 100g of protein, 100g of carbs and 100g of fats .. or variations on this theme.
Sev's 100/100/100/100 diet: 100g protein, 100g carbs, 100g of fats and 100mg dbol.
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no chapter bro. just our commitment to keep updating everyone with whatever we discover as we fine tune and find things we can add in to help everyone become successful with their journey.
Despite the examples of you and Gal, I worry a lot about dieting away what little muscle I have on a keto/super low cal diet.
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Sev's 100/100/100/100 diet: 100g protein, 100g carbs, 100g of fats and 100mg dbol.
wow.. did it take you long to think this joke? or was it like a flash of brilliance?
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Despite the examples of you and Gal, I worry a lot about dieting away what little muscle I have on a keto/super low cal diet.
I thought you were on gear ?
You shouldnt have to worry about that.
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Despite the examples of you and Gal, I worry a lot about dieting away what little muscle I have on a keto/super low cal diet.
eaze into it try few days on at ist ,or wks,..to see if it is for you or how it makes u feel/look.
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wow.. did it take you long to think this joke? or was it like a flash of brilliance?
I actually thought it was clever :-\
Oh well. It was a flash.
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I thought you were on gear ?
You shouldnt have to worry about that.
I am and I still worry about it. I just don't spam the board with my concerns.
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Despite the examples of you and Gal, I worry a lot about dieting away what little muscle I have on a keto/super low cal diet.
you will not lose muscle. do you realise how hard it is to lose tissue? fuck this is the biggest 'broscience' myth of this century.
you'll lose glycogen and water, and the illusion of size. but not tissue. you'll soon find out if you have real muscle, or a lot of fat masquerading as muscle.
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i dont believe in dieting
i only believe in steroids and genetics
(http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq145/bianconero8/paul_dillet9-1.jpg)
Is that Prince Dianabol when he grows up
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you'll soon find out if you have real muscle, or a lot of fat masquerading as muscle.
And therein lies the fear.
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Is that Prince Dianabol when he grows up
he gonna be bad boy
5 plate militaries for sets of 12-15
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And therein lies the fear.
lol :D
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And therein lies the fear.
very honest
we have all been there
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there is no carbs. if there's no carbs I simply don't crave them. my personality doesn't let me crave then because they just simply are not allowed. so what then can I eat? protein and fat. and as a result I always hit my protein goal for your day. always. cause it's the only cals I can eat. that combined w fasting and an extreme cal deficit (ie the Galeniko method) works amazingly for me because there it is hard and all or nothing.
Is this your normal everyday diet or is it when cutting or maintaining whilst cut?
Any re-feed days at all?
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i dont believe in dieting
i only believe in steroids and genetics
(http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq145/bianconero8/paul_dillet9-1.jpg)
One of the most crazy bodybuilding pics ever. I remember this from back in the day
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Good thread!
Eat good,to look good.....anyone can get big and fat.
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my personality type is fat
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Is this your normal everyday diet or is it when cutting or maintaining whilst cut?
Any re-feed days at all?
ive been fucking around with the system a lot.
to answer your question, my every day diet doesnt involve counting cals, and has no regimentation whatsoever- carbs proteins fats its all ball/ junk food etc- the only thing i do all year round is train fasted, and fast after a big meal. just by doing this i can stay within 4-5% of my best, but that 5% to me is still sloppy weight bourne of being lazy. there is no need for it, but like the thread says i have a disorder of all or nothing. be lean or walk around slightly chubby (you know how it is when your not shredded your chubby no matter what your bf is), so miantenance isnt possible for me, as much as i wished it could be. i either have to be totally dieting or not. there is no middle ground, which really sucks because i suffer great fluctuations in the way i 'look' imo.
when im ok time to get lean what i found works absolutely best for me is total keto for the days im low cal. typically low cal for me is around 1200-1600 depending on how much pb i ate that day 1600 being very high and not as rule more of an anomaly. i have upped my cals somewhat as i have started doing a bit more cardio than i ever have- started playing basketball again and at least 3-4 times a week im in the gym shooting around. because my knees are fucked atm, i cant play run and gun, just shoot around by myself but even this is enough to get my HR over 130. i find on keto i can have a bit higher cals and not have it impact my energy levels as my cals climb a bit, whereas w cabs in the diet is i was approaching 1600 id get lethargic as hell.
i have been having a carb refeed every 4 days or so. what im finding is that i might not need it at e4d. the day after the fast- so about 36 hours post carbs i start to pull out of the lethargy i experience from eating carbs. im starting to wonder if it is even worth it. i *think* as im no scientist but it stands to reason if i run high energy on fat/pro, and get lethargic on carbs, is my bodies ability to burn fat may also being impeded. tbh im starting to realise maybe im just not meant or built to eat carbs, but they taste so good- i dont think about them when im in the heart of the protein/ fat so WHY i eat them i dont know. prolly cause i like pizza.
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I found ( thanks to the no one galeniko method) that fasting either intermittent 16hrs, or more 24+ is the best method for me to burn fat. Also the whole burning muscle thing is a myth I believe. I sure don't notice it anyway. Keto works great for me too but I can't stay on it more than a few weeks.
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Same is often true of training, your training style will be determined by your personality. Some people simply can't train with great "intensity". These people can't go short, heavy and very intense, no matter what. Others simply can't train with high volume and "light" weights never hitting failure, it just doesn't match their personality. What their brains tell them would be most beneficial doesn't matter.
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Excellent thread. I'm the same way, all or nothing. A bite of something sweet and the floodgates open, I can't control myself for the rest of the day. But 3-4 days on a strict diet and I'm in the zone.... It's always a social obligation that gets me to stray, I seldom get the urge to cheat myself
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Agreed.
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ive been fucking around with the system a lot.
to answer your question, my every day diet doesnt involve counting cals, and has no regimentation whatsoever- carbs proteins fats its all ball/ junk food etc- the only thing i do all year round is train fasted, and fast after a big meal. just by doing this i can stay within 4-5% of my best, but that 5% to me is still sloppy weight bourne of being lazy. there is no need for it, but like the thread says i have a disorder of all or nothing. be lean or walk around slightly chubby (you know how it is when your not shredded your chubby no matter what your bf is), so miantenance isnt possible for me, as much as i wished it could be. i either have to be totally dieting or not. there is no middle ground, which really sucks because i suffer great fluctuations in the way i 'look' imo.
when im ok time to get lean what i found works absolutely best for me is total keto for the days im low cal. typically low cal for me is around 1200-1600 depending on how much pb i ate that day 1600 being very high and not as rule more of an anomaly. i have upped my cals somewhat as i have started doing a bit more cardio than i ever have- started playing basketball again and at least 3-4 times a week im in the gym shooting around. because my knees are fucked atm, i cant play run and gun, just shoot around by myself but even this is enough to get my HR over 130. i find on keto i can have a bit higher cals and not have it impact my energy levels as my cals climb a bit, whereas w cabs in the diet is i was approaching 1600 id get lethargic as hell.
i have been having a carb refeed every 4 days or so. what im finding is that i might not need it at e4d. the day after the fast- so about 36 hours post carbs i start to pull out of the lethargy i experience from eating carbs. im starting to wonder if it is even worth it. i *think* as im no scientist but it stands to reason if i run high energy on fat/pro, and get lethargic on carbs, is my bodies ability to burn fat may also being impeded. tbh im starting to realise maybe im just not meant or built to eat carbs, but they taste so good- i dont think about them when im in the heart of the protein/ fat so WHY i eat them i dont know. prolly cause i like pizza.
Thanks mate, great response and info, not sure now why I didnt like you before.
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Thanks mate, great response and info, not sure now why I didnt like you before.
x2,,was a long drawn out thread for no reason...entertaining tho ;D,,,no one is a straight shooter/honest/all around great guy here.he picks up the slack when galineko is not here and oth..
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x2,,was a long drawn out thread for no reason...entertaining tho ;D,,,no one is a straight shooter/honest/all around great guy here.he picks up the slack when galineko is not here and oth..
Where is galeniko? Business trip? Surgery? Ibiza?
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Same is often true of training, your training style will be determined by your personality. Some people simply can't train with great "intensity". These people can't go short, heavy and very intense, no matter what. Others simply can't train with high volume and "light" weights never hitting failure, it just doesn't match their personality. What their brains tell them would be most beneficial doesn't matter.
great post. never considered the training end of things.
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Excellent thread. I'm the same way, all or nothing. A bite of something sweet and the floodgates open, I can't control myself for the rest of the day. But 3-4 days on a strict diet and I'm in the zone.... It's always a social obligation that gets me to stray, I seldom get the urge to cheat myself
exactly! dude im the same.
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my personality type is fat
LOL mine too and proud of it. I see no issues; there's more important things in life such as family, stability, faith and peace of mind than "dieting personalities" and having an orange tan all year around while living in shitty Ontario suburbs... lol oh brother the delusion and lack of self esteem.
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Thanks mate, great response and info, not sure now why I didnt like you before.
whats not to love? :D thank you for saying such. i appreciate the comments. :)
x2,,was a long drawn out thread for no reason...entertaining tho ;D,,,no one is a straight shooter/honest/all around great guy here.he picks up the slack when galineko is not here and oth..
thanks my friend. likewise.
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any of you ever hear of this? no, cause it doesn't exist. I came upon it based on my own experiences and trial and error after years of trying everything under the sun.
ever wonder why your diet fails fails you? Macros are macros and cals are cals. so in essence ANY diet should work. calorie deficit = weight loss.
that being said, if it's not the nuts and bolts of cals in vs cals expended that fails you, then what is it?
YOU fail you. you as in your inability to stay on your diet.
ever wonder why you can't stay on a diet while others can just grind out month after month with no problems and end up shredded? it's because they, accidentally, have discovered a way of dieting that agreed with their personality.
think about it. I know myself I am all or nothing. I can't have x amount of carbs, x amount of protein, x amounts of fat. why? cause I will not adhere to it. why can't I not adhere to it? because if I can eat carbs and stay within my daily cal intake, guess what- a majority of my cals will come from carbs. why? because I'm allowed them. I am not regimented enough to measure foods, prepare meals, and whatnot. I need simplicity and absolutes. therefor ketogenic dieting fits me to a T.
there is no carbs. if there's no carbs I simply don't crave them. my personality doesn't let me crave then because they just simply are not allowed. so what then can I eat? protein and fat. and as a result I always hit my protein goal for your day. always. cause it's the only cals I can eat. that combined w fasting and an extreme cal deficit (ie the Galeniko method) works amazingly for me because there it is hard and all or nothing.
I urge you to take into account your personalities next time you diet. are you highly regimented highly organized? chances are a 30/30/30 or some other kind of macro provisioning diet is right up your alley. you'll stay on it cause it suits your personality.
no diet will or can work if you don't stay on it. if your not having much success dieting maybe look at your personality, then build your diet around that.
cheers.
omfg, yes bro !!!!
you are right on, I was kind of thinking about this the other day after reading something that Matt Porter said about people who have depression issues
he says if his clients are on anti depressant, he never has them cheat because when they cheat it creats such a high in their brain that they can't stop to binge for the life of them and they eat way to much and end up not loosing as much weight
like you said, they are a lot of variables here
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omfg, yes bro !!!!
you are right on, I was kind of thinking about this the other day after reading something that Matt Porter said about people who have depression issues
he says if his clients are on anti depressant, he never has them cheat because when they cheat it creats such a high in their brain that they can't stop to binge for the life of them and they eat way to much and end up not loosing as much weight
like you said, they are a lot of variables here
for sure bro- funny abt how you mention the correlation between depression and bingeing.
I have noticed in myself carbs (I don't know which ones tho) cause me to become withdrawn, avoiding interpersonal contact, unmotivated and tired. all symptoms of depression.
am I depressed? no. but I now strongly believe my food choices (carbs) cause me to manifest the same symptoms.
I do t know the mechanisms behind this but for me just know that it happens has gone a long way to changing my life for the better. I wonder how many people on medications for depression might benefit from a high protein/ fat diet.
cheers.