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Are the gun nutters getting tired of defending their position? Or has such shootings become so common now some of them just get simply ignored?
And what the fuck is going on at that military base? It seems to produce some real psycho's.
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There's a thread about it in the Politics forum.
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"Gun nutters"
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Are the gun nutters getting tired of defending their position? Or has such shootings become so common now some of them just get simply ignored?
And what the fuck is going on at that military base? It seems to produce some real psycho's.
No need to defend a position one is secure in. Insecure weenies never miss a chance to voice their fears though
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People are becoming more and more desensitized to these mass shootings events.
Not surprised that the shooter was on SSRI meds... just like 50% of military personnel are. This is how TPTB control their drones. Sometimes it backfires though.
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Are the gun nutters getting tired of defending their position? Or has such shootings become so common now some of them just get simply ignored?
And what the fuck is going on at that military base? It seems to produce some real psycho's.
Nobody in the shooting has arms over 17inches so why should we care.
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Its another one on a military base..involving soldiers...yet the fagg E-Kul somehow wants to blame all american gun owners as usual. ::)
'Guilt redistribution' - the Left's approach to all of these tragic events
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Guilt by association. A very flawed logic.
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Its another one on a military base..involving soldiers...yet the fagg E-Kul somehow wants to blame all american gun owners as usual. ::)
'Guilt redistribution' - the Left's approach to all of these tragic events
Yeah, because a group all supporting the same ideology couldn't be bad for other people. I suppose it was unfair to ban NAZISM in Germany all because of a few bad NAZIS. The problem couldn't have been because of the ideals the average NAZI endorsed and believed in. ::)
I suppose it's bad to penalise drunk drivers because of a few drunken idiots who harmed and killed other people. I guess speed limits are ludicrous too, because of a few idiots who can't handle driving at speed. Seatbelts are stupid, so are helmets and all safety protection equipment. All because of a few idiots.
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Guilt by association. A very flawed logic.
You do realise there are exceptions to the Guilt by association. Exception: If one can demonstrate that the connection between the two characteristics that was inherited by association is causally linked, or the probability of taking on a characteristic would be high, then it would be valid.
Like for instance, gun owners are at higher risk of homicide, suicide, and accidental death by gun. So there is a direct correlation between gun ownership and risk of violence as opposed to non gun owners.
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Then don't buy a fucking gun. Case closed.
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sounds like fox news isn't blaming the dude for being a crazy A-hole.
They're blaming the healthcare system (Read: Obama) for letting him down. WTF.
Fort Hood: Yet another tragedy from our broken mental health care system
Dr. Keith Ablow
Lt. Gen. Mark Milley, commanding general of III Corps and Fort Hood, speaks with the media outside of an entrance to the Fort Hood military base following a shooting that occurred inside, Wednesday, April 2, 2014, in Fort Hood, Texas.AP
It is now an old story, made new again by the tragic events of the second Fort Hood shooter. Untreated, under treated or poorly treated mental illness leads to horrific violence.
Now, a mentally ill man, Ivan Lopez, reportedly being treated for one or more psychiatric disorders, allegedly took the lives of three people at Fort Hood in Texas, wounded 16 others, and then took his own life.
Let me be clear: Comprehensive psychiatric treatment of quality means that it would almost never be the case that someone kills others while struggling with a mental illness. In my opinion and experience as an adult, adolescent and forensic psychiatrist, the willingness to provide resources like the monitored use of anti-psychotic medications and enforced hospitalization can prevent 99.9 percent of all such violence.
The system by which we are deploying psychiatric services in America, particularly in the military, is broken. That – not the availability of firearms – is the explanation for why 7 to 27 veterans commit suicide each day. That broken system is the explanation for the skyrocketing rates of suicide among active duty soldiers—almost one a day in the latest study.
Part of the reason for the military’s particularly severe problem with addressing mental health is the notion of “resiliency”—that psychological services delivered to soldiers should help them quickly rebound from trauma, avoid dwelling on losses and get back to work. Well, from everything I know, that’s the perfect way for denying your feelings and burying your suffering, which will then erupt in worsening symptoms over time.
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/04/03/fort-hood-yet-another-tragedy-from-our-broken-mental-health-care-system/
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Then don't buy a fucking gun. Case closed.
That still doesn't lessen my risk of being killed by some random gun nutter in a high gun ownership country. My risk will still be far higher than it need be. Imagine there was no speed laws, and as a result there were more serious accidents, imagine I supported speed limits and was told by those who didn't support such laws "Well, just don't fucking speed then". They may decrease my chances slightly of being killed on the road, but I am still put at greater risk of being killed by another speeding driver than if I would be in a country with speed limits"
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That still doesn't lessen my risk of being killed by some random gun nutter in a high gun ownership country. My risk will still be far higher than it need be. Imagine there was no speed laws, and as a result there were more serious accidents, imagine I supported speed limits and was told by those who didn't support such laws "Well, just don't fucking speed then". They may decrease my chances slightly of being killed on the road, but I am still put at greater risk of being killed by another speeding driver than if I would be in a country with speed limits"
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Better just stay indoors with a helmet on in a padded room all day then...you will be 'safe' ::)
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I can't stand it when suicidal/mentally ill people kill people before themselves - what's the fucking point? Obviously they have lost the plot, and we can't actually prevent these types of killings, but it really is the saddest shit out there.
"Mummy why is Daddy not home yet?"
"Sweetheart, someone was very unhappy so shot daddy and 3 of his colleagues at random in the head, so your life will be forever empty as well as mine".
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"Mental Health" oh brother
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Better just stay indoors with a helmet on in a padded room all day then...you will be 'safe' ::)
Yeah, that makes sense, why minimise unnecessary risk, let's just climb Mt Everest barefoot while wearing our pajamas. Moron
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That still doesn't lessen my risk of being killed by some random gun nutter in a high gun ownership country. My risk will still be far higher than it need be. Imagine there was no speed laws, and as a result there were more serious accidents, imagine I supported speed limits and was told by those who didn't support such laws "Well, just don't fucking speed then". They may decrease my chances slightly of being killed on the road, but I am still put at greater risk of being killed by another speeding driver than if I would be in a country with speed limits"
Fine. All true. What is it that you need to hear in order to move on from this topic, you nutbar autist?
it would almost never be the case that someone kills others while struggling with a mental illness.
Yes, we here in the Army use only the certified sane to kill others.
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Yeah, that makes sense, why minimise unnecessary risk, let's just climb Mt Everest barefoot while wearing our pajamas. Moron
you better stay off the roads then
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Fine. All true. What is it that you need to hear in order to move on from this topic, you nutbar autist?
Yes, we here in the Army use only the certified sane to kill others.
I don't know that people will ever move on from the topic until it stops being a regular occurrence. I just wish the necessary heartbreak could be felt for the innocent people killed, but these shootings just get lost in a mire of gun debate. I think if more people actually identified with the victims they would be more willing to do anything to minimise such incidents occurring, even give up their guns. There I said it, voluntarily give up their guns! I have never owned a gun and would only consider one if the community I lived in become anarchistic and the rule of law broke down or if survival was dependant on hunting or even farming.
I am so glad I don't live in a culture dominated by guns, I think I would see that as symbolic of a failed society. If I genuinely needed a gun for protection, then the country I live in is no longer striving to be civilised and has become anarchistic. I would understand the need for guns in an anarchist society, but not in a civilized one. Perhaps America already is part anarchistic with a facade of being civilised. I don't know what the answers are, but if I was given the choice of choosing between a gun culture and a non gun culture, I would choose the latter every day of the week.
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What country do u live in...we're a nation of 350 million so unless your particular country is massive and completely peaceful you really can't compare the two.
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I agree with a lot of what you say. You just seem kind of preoccupied with it is all.
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I don't know that people will ever move on from the topic until it stops being a regular occurrence. I just wish the necessary heartbreak could be felt for the innocent people killed, but these shootings just get lost in a mire of gun debate. I think if more people actually identified with the victims they would be more willing to do anything to minimise such incidents occurring, even give up their guns. There I said it, voluntarily give up their guns! I have never owned a gun and would only consider one if the community I lived in become anarchistic and the rule of law broke down or if survival was dependant on hunting or even farming.
I am so glad I don't live in a culture dominated by guns, I think I would see that as symbolic of a failed society. If I genuinely needed a gun for protection, then the country I live in is no longer striving to be civilised and has become anarchistic. I would understand the need for guns in an anarchist society, but not in a civilized one. Perhaps America already is part anarchistic with a facade of being civilised. I don't know what the answers are, but if I was given the choice of choosing between a gun culture and a non gun culture, I would choose the latter every day of the week.
Typical liberal utopian fantasy world type thinking..
Hey, i bet those victims you speak wished very badly they would have had a gun on them when this guy entered the room. But by all means continue your fantasy land of world peace and unicorns and rainbows...if only those evil normal americans would turn in their evil guns!!!
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Yes, we here in the Army use only the certified sane to kill others.
lol
It's ironic isn't it. Sometimes I think you have to be somewhat dysfunctional to do well in life, to fit into a disturbed system, you have to be slightly disturbed yourself. You know, to consider it normal to join the military, travel overseas, kill strangers and travel home again and not be bothered by it, theres something disturbing about such a mindset. You would think such unnatural lifestyles would lead to far more people snapping. It's almost when they snap, their humanness is exposed, all their repressed feelings finally get released, their angry, rage filled, frustrated feelings. They seek revenge and to hurt others, all this is human and the normal consequence of torment, tragedy, loss, war and life itself. One can only imagine the psychological twists, turns and maneuverings the so called normal psyche has to do to avoid such an outburst after experiencing trauma.
Insanity — a perfectly rational adjustment to an insane world.
R. D. Lang
Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives…. I think we’re being run by maniacs for maniacal ends … and I think I’m liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That’s what’s insane about it.
John Lennon
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Hey, i bet those victims you speak wished very badly they would have had a gun on them when this guy entered the room.
I bet they wished more that he didn't have a gun!
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Typical liberal utopian fantasy world type thinking..
Ironic really, because I have always seen the belief that the way to create a safe society is by arming everyone as typical liberal utopian fantasy world type thinking..
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We're to big...to diverse to live in fuzzy bunny lib land. The cops can't be everywhere.
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We're to big...to diverse to live in fuzzy bunny lib land. The cops can't be everywhere.
You can't eliminate crime, only minimise it. A Gun Culture increases your chances of being a victim, why on Earth would anybody want to increase their chances of becoming a victim other than if they were brainwashed by a group with an agenda. I wonder who that could be?
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lol
It's ironic isn't it. Sometimes I think you have to be somewhat dysfunctional to do well in life, to fit into a disturbed system, you have to be slightly disturbed yourself. You know, to consider it normal to join the military, travel overseas, kill strangers and travel home again and not be bothered by it, theres something disturbing about such a mindset. You would think such unnatural lifestyles would lead to far more people snapping. It's almost when they snap, their humanness is exposed, all their repressed feelings finally get released, their angry, rage filled, frustrated feelings. They seek revenge and to hurt others, all this is human and the normal consequence of torment, tragedy, loss, war and life itself. One can only imagine the psychological twists, turns and maneuverings the so called normal psyche has to do to avoid such an outburst after experiencing trauma.
Insanity — a perfectly rational adjustment to an insane world.
R. D. Lang
Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives…. I think we’re being run by maniacs for maniacal ends … and I think I’m liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That’s what’s insane about it.
John Lennon
Considering war...warfare and conflict historically is the natural state of man....I'm not sure what your point is. I've got 4 combat tours..to two each sandfilled shithole. Besides almost zero patience left I'm fine....and a recent weird claustrophobia thing happening.
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You can't eliminate crime, only minimise it. A Gun Culture increases your chances of being a victim, why on Earth would anybody want to increase their chances of becoming a victim other than if they were brainwashed by a group with an agenda. I wonder who that could be?
Dude..where are you from. When I put on a pistol..I'm not a victim, I'm planning to not be a victim. You're the one planning for fantasy land...the reality here is that bad shit happens sometimes. I'm not sure what the hell a "gun culture" is anyway. The entire world is full of weapons. America has 350 million people and a lot of guns because there is crime. Countries like Switzerland issue a weapon to its entire citizenry and crime is very low...u don't fuck around when everybody has an assault rifle in their closet.
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Considering war...warfare and conflict historically is the natural state of man....I'm not sure what your point is. I've got 4 combat tours..to two each sandfilled shithole. Besides almost zero patience left I'm fine....and a recent weird claustrophobia thing happening.
I can understand due to your combat experience believing that war is the natural state of man, but it is incorrect. War, like any fight can only be sustained for brief periods. It isn't natural for humans to be at perpetual war. Like I said, vets need to do psychological cartwheels to remain stable, the fact you admit you have zero patience is of concern, simply because there is no positive number lower than zero. One doesn't need to kill a bunch of other people to become dysfunctional, it can creep out in many ways. The military does a good job of shutting down an individuals humanity but it doesn't always stick, good luck keeping it all contained, as you know it;s not always easy to keep a lid on.
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Dude..where are you from. When I put on a pistol..I'm not a victim, I'm planning to not be a victim. You're the one planning for fantasy land...the reality here is that bad shit happens sometimes. I'm not sure what the hell a "gun culture" is anyway. The entire world is full of weapons. America has 350 million people and a lot of guns because there is crime. Countries like Switzerland issue a weapon to its entire citizenry and crime is very low...u don't fuck around when everybody has an assault rifle in their closet.
Everybody in America has a gun in their closet, NEWSFLASH, people are fucking around with you, ALL THE FUCKING TIME. Switzerland also has a mature populace, something that America lacks. America is the land of the crazy people, and the last thing crazy people should have is a gun. Considering the average American is crazy, they shouldn't be carrying guns. What makes Americas dnagerously crazy is they remain unaware of how crazy they are.
I sure as hell wouldn't feel comfortable around a gun toting vet with extensive combat experience who professes to have zero PATIENCE AND GETS ANXIOUS IN CONFINED SPACES (AKA SOCIETY)
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I bet they wished more that he didn't have a gun!
clearly, but that is not a realistic way of thinking.
Evil will always exist, no matter how many laws you pass.
People will always find a way to kill people, no matter how many tools you ban.
Bad things will continue to happen to good people, no matter how much you try to impliment your lib utopian fantasy world of world peace.
These tragic events will always occur in the world, no matter what. It is part of the human condition.
Is it not therefore much more reasonable, and much more practical, to be prepared/armed for when this guy bursts into the room, rather than try to pretend that if we just pass enough laws, and ban enough guns, then nothing bad will ever happen to anyone?? ::)
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Everybody in America has a gun in their closet, NEWSFLASH, people are fucking around with you, ALL THE FUCKING TIME. Switzerland also has a mature populace, something that America lacks. America is the land of the crazy people, and the last thing crazy people should have is a gun. Considering the average American is crazy, they shouldn't be carrying guns. What makes Americas dnagerously crazy is they remain unaware of how crazy they are.
I sure as hell wouldn't feel comfortable around a gun toting vet with extensive combat experience who professes to have zero PATIENCE AND GETS ANXIOUS IN CONFINED SPACES (AKA SOCIETY)
I was being nice...but look douchbag what shitbag 3rd rate country that's doesn't matter are u from. If there wasn't an America you'd have to invent it or watch the world descend into barbarism. We've kept things from getting out of control for over 60 years.....gimme a break. As Gen Mattis said..sometimes its just fun to shoot people in the face.
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clearly, but that is not a realistic way of thinking.
Evil will always exist, no matter how many laws you pass.
People will always find a way to kill people, no matter how many tools you ban.
Bad things will continue to happen to good people, no matter how much you try to impliment your lib utopian fantasy world of world peace.
These tragic events will always occur in the world, no matter what. It is part of the human condition.
Is it not therefore much more reasonable, and much more practical, to be prepared/armed for when this guy bursts into the room, rather than try to pretend that if we just pass enough laws, and ban enough guns, then nothing bad will ever happen to anyone?? ::)
People will not always find ways to kill people, the reality is guns make it easy to kill in the heat of the moment, any idiot can do it and you don't even have to get to close to the person. Other methods of killing people aren't so easy, they require the potential killer to be bigger and stronger than the victim and not everyone has the stomach or the ability to do it. Often times, when the heat of the moment has been given enough time to die down the potential killer changes their mind.
I don't know why you keep accusing me of some utopian fantasy as it appears it is you who holds such a view, where everyone owns gun and only bad guys are killed by them. it's ludicrous and Americas statistics bear out how idealistic and naive it is to believe such a fantasy. Nobody is suggesting we can eliminate the amount of violence and murder in the world, just lessen it. What you advocate for ensures more violence in your country, I can hardly see how that is a good thing.
And the fact you think owning a firearm will offer you protection when the shit goes down is an illusion, a false sense of security. You can not carry a gun with you everywhere, it is impractical, you still need to sleep and if someone wants to get you, they will. It's as simple as that. If owning a gun made citizens safer, America would be the safest country in the world, rather than one of the most violent.
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I was being nice...but look douchbag what shitbag 3rd rate country that's doesn't matter are u from. If there wasn't an America you'd have to invent it or watch the world descend into barbarism. We've kept things from getting out of control for over 60 years.....gimme a break. As Gen Mattis said..sometimes its just fun to shoot people in the face.
He lives down under.
Our predecessors fought against the british. We won and the bill of rights soon followed.
I could argue aussie land is still under rule of the queen.
I wouldn't expect him to get it.
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The Aussies lost their gun rights...but are not a country I would consider a bunch of sheep. They've realized that multiculturalism is chocking them. I feel bad for a disarmed populace..hopefully the new government will change that. They're enlarging and modernizing their military and recruiting a lot of Americans to join and fill out their senior NCO and officer billets.
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I was being nice...but look douchbag what shitbag 3rd rate country that's doesn't matter are u from. If there wasn't an America you'd have to invent it or watch the world descend into barbarism. We've kept things from getting out of control for over 60 years.....gimme a break. As Gen Mattis said..sometimes its just fun to shoot people in the face.
No need for niceties. Now I know I wouldn't feel comfortable around a gun toting vet with extensive combat experience who professes to have zero PATIENCE AND GETS ANXIOUS IN CONFINED SPACES (AKA SOCIETY) and thinks it's fun to shoot people in the face. My only hope is these posts never get used in a Court of Law as evidence to your instability. People often talk about preventing these mass shootings, if any Americans see your posts, I would definitely consider reporting them, headhuntersix seems to fit the profile of a potential mass shooter. (I am not kidding). headhuntersix, you should seek help before you tip over the edge, seriously. Here's a tip, normal people don't think the way you do.
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The Aussies lost their gun rights...but are not a country I would consider a bunch of sheep. They've realized that multiculturalism is chocking them. I feel bad for a disarmed populace..hopefully the new government will change that. They're enlarging and modernizing their military and recruiting a lot of Americans to join and fill out their senior NCO and officer billets.
Children are being murdered in American schools on a regular basis, and you feel bad for Countries that are civilised and the children can go to school free of fear. Us Aussies have pitied Americans and their delusions for decades. We literally make fun of your gun culture, that is until the next batch of kids are murdered of course, which is often.
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No need for niceties. Now I know I wouldn't feel comfortable around a gun toting vet with extensive combat experience who professes to have zero PATIENCE AND GETS ANXIOUS IN CONFINED SPACES (AKA SOCIETY) and thinks it's fun to shoot people in the face. My only hope is these posts never get used in a Court of Law as evidence to your instability. People often talk about preventing these mass shootings, if any Americans see your posts, I would definitely consider reporting them, headhuntersix seems to fit the profile of a potential mass shooter. (I am not kidding). headhuntersix, you should seek help before you tip over the edge, seriously. Here's a tip, normal people don't think the way you do.
I could say the same about you u pansy...ekul...easily raped...mugged or murdered...do u keep large sums of cash on u...drive a nice car...own a nice house. I don't get anxious in confined spaces AKA society...I get anxious in confined spaces...period...occasi onally. I was also quoting a retired 4 star Marine General...perhaps the finest of the last 30 years. I'm sorry guns make you scared and uneasy..must suck to go through life as a bitch.
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Children are being murdered in American schools on a regular basis, and you feel bad for Countries that are civilised and the children can go to school free of fear. Us Aussies have pitied Americans and their delusions for decades. We literally make fun of your gun culture, that is until the next batch of kids are murdered of course, which is often.
I've got several aunts and uncles in Australia...none seem to pity us. We pity you for giving up your rights to the government. Regular basis....not so much dude...just a few here and there. Its happened a lot of places...life goes on.
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I could say the same about you u pansy...ekul...easily raped...mugged or murdered...do u keep large sums of cash on u...drive a nice car...own a nice house. I don't get anxious in confined spaces AKA society...I get anxious in confined spaces...period...occasi onally. I was also quoting a retired 4 star Marine General...perhaps the finest of the last 30 years. I'm sorry guns make you scared and uneasy..must suck to go through life as a bitch.
I used to keep upwards of $80,000 cash in my house and regularly carry thousands of dollars on my person. Never had an issue. Guns don't make me scared and uneasy. I suppose if they did, I could always just get a gun to ease my fears. I drive a reasonably nice car, a late model Toyota Camry Sport and live in a nice house in a nice neighbourhood. I wouldn't know what it feels like to go through life as a bitch, probably explains why I don't feel a need to own or carry a gun.
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I've got several aunts and uncles in Australia...none seem to pity us. We pity you for giving up your rights to the government. Regular basis....not so much dude...just a few here and there. Its happened a lot of places...life goes on.
Yeah, giving up the right to ensure children will be murdered at school and live in fear was a tough decision. ::)
I always get a laugh out of these youtube clips
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You gave up your rights, however that's Australia. You guys just don't really matter all that much and I honestly don't care what happens down there. I don't have any real opinion on your rights as a citizen there. You, however seem well versed in the American condition, our culture and mindset. What you don't get is that we have a Constitution that allows us to own weapons. I guess it bothers you. If some nut decided to murder a whole bunch of you people...I'd blame him not Aussie culture.
I suspect speaking Japanese would bother you as well if all those barbaric Americans hadn't saved your ass a few year ago. Be happy there's an America and shut up.
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You gave up your rights, however that's Australia. You guys just don't really matter all that much and I honestly don't care what happens down there. I don't have any real opinion on your rights as a citizen there. You, however seem well versed in the American condition, our culture and mindset. What you don't get is that we have a Constitution that allows us to own weapons. I guess it bothers you. If some nut decided to murder a whole bunch of you people...I'd blame him not Aussie culture.
I suspect speaking Japanese would bother you as well if all those barbaric Americans hadn't saved your ass a few year ago. Be happy there's an America and shut up.
Ensuring the right for children to not be murdered at school was worth giving up the owning of a gun.
And Americans were late to the party, by the time they finally entered the war, Germany was already significantly weakened because they were defending from three different directions (Europe, Africa, and Russia). It was all the other allies that softened the enemy up, America was hardly instrumental in winning the war. Dropping the bomb wasn't even needed as the japs were long ago ready to surrender, it was just sending a message to the Russians, who were potentially a greater threat than the Axis powers . The Russians were far more instrumental in stopping the Axis powers than the Yanks ever were. You Americans have an inflated opinion of your value and worth. And it was the Australians themselves who kept the Japanese at bay in Papua New Guinea.
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E-Fool is so delusional and engrained in his leftist mentality that no amount of reasoning, evidence, or facts will convince him otherwise.
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I think the Marines at Darwin or the massive US naval force in that region of the Pacific had a lot to do with your countries' continued independence. I'm not sure how weak the Germans were in 42' and all that lend lease shit we sent to the Russians didn't hurt. I suspect that not having to deal with a few million japs on their Siberian flank also made life easier for the Russians. Just say thanks.......its ok we like u people, koala bears...Steve Irwin...AC/DC....Mel Gibson...Fosters.
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You do realise there are exceptions to the Guilt by association. Exception: If one can demonstrate that the connection between the two characteristics that was inherited by association is causally linked, or the probability of taking on a characteristic would be high, then it would be valid.
Like for instance, gun owners are at higher risk of homicide, suicide, and accidental death by gun. So there is a direct correlation between gun ownership and risk of violence as opposed to non gun owners.
Look, you dont own a gun, I presume you don't associate with anyone who owns a gun so shut the fuck about guns.
Jeez imagine being stuck with you at a fucking party.
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You'd get lectured on how the booze was ruining your life....stop messing with all the women of questionable moral fiber....and then he'd try and blow u.
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I think the Marines at Darwin or the massive US naval force in that region of the Pacific had a lot to do with your countries' continued independence. I'm not sure how weak the Germans were in 42' and all that lend lease shit we sent to the Russians didn't hurt. I suspect that not having to deal with a few million japs on their Siberian flank also made life easier for the Russians. Just say thanks.......its ok we like u people, koala bears...Steve Irwin...AC/DC....Mel Gibson...Fosters.
Hes just the typical lib going on about how evil guns are...but then when threatened first thing they do is get on the phone and beg for a man with a gun to come save them.
Equally applicable to both lib individuals and lib nations :D
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That's why every asshole in Europe waits to see what we're going to do......
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Wait, we're discussing why guns are permitted on a military base?
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Hes just the typical lib going on about how evil guns are...but then when threatened first thing they do is get on the phone and beg for a man with a gun to come save them.
Equally applicable to both lib individuals and lib nations :D
I have no problem with the government employing and then training suitable civilians to act as military and police. Those men should have guns, just not every lunatic citizen having one for self protection. That's a recipe to end up like America, and no country wants that.
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I have no problem with the government employing and then training suitable civilians to act as military and police. Those men should have guns, just not every lunatic citizen having one for self protection. That's a recipe to end up like America, and no country wants that.
Say something about 64yo Taxi driver raping deaf 10 yo girl in Sydney, or machine gun attack on a member of the Australian Defence League by Muslims , and no country wants that .
PS.Why U a on Disability Pension Mr.E-Kully ::)
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Yeah, because a group all supporting the same ideology couldn't be bad for other people. I suppose it was unfair to ban NAZISM in Germany all because of a few bad NAZIS. The problem couldn't have been because of the ideals the average NAZI endorsed and believed in. ::)
I suppose it's bad to penalise drunk drivers because of a few drunken idiots who harmed and killed other people. I guess speed limits are ludicrous too, because of a few idiots who can't handle driving at speed. Seatbelts are stupid, so are helmets and all safety protection equipment. All because of a few idiots.
Thousands of Mussolini's Black Shirts fascist settled in Australia after the WW2, & few dozens of ex Gestapo guys too;D all with knowledge
of her RM governments ( UK & Ozy).
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I don't know that people will ever move on from the topic until it stops being a regular occurrence. I just wish the necessary heartbreak could be felt for the innocent people killed, but these shootings just get lost in a mire of gun debate. I think if more people actually identified with the victims they would be more willing to do anything to minimise such incidents occurring, even give up their guns. There I said it, voluntarily give up their guns! I have never owned a gun and would only consider one if the community I lived in become anarchistic and the rule of law broke down or if survival was dependant on hunting or even farming.
I am so glad I don't live in a culture dominated by guns, I think I would see that as symbolic of a failed society. If I genuinely needed a gun for protection, then the country I live in is no longer striving to be civilised and has become anarchistic. I would understand the need for guns in an anarchist society, but not in a civilized one. Perhaps America already is part anarchistic with a facade of being civilised. I don't know what the answers are, but if I was given the choice of choosing between a gun culture and a non gun culture, I would choose the latter every day of the week.
Great news, E-Kully is packing for ???? , too many guns in Botany Bay ;D
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I think the Marines at Darwin or the massive US naval force in that region of the Pacific had a lot to do with your countries' continued independence. I'm not sure how weak the Germans were in 42' and all that lend lease shit we sent to the Russians didn't hurt. I suspect that not having to deal with a few million japs on their Siberian flank also made life easier for the Russians. Just say thanks.......its ok we like u people, koala bears...Steve Irwin...AC/DC....Mel Gibson...Fosters.
True, without US military umbrella Ozy is fuck :P
So big thanks for US boys presence in Pine Gap,Darwin,Guam,etc,.
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I don't know that people will ever move on from the topic until it stops being a regular occurrence. I just wish the necessary heartbreak could be felt for the innocent people killed, but these shootings just get lost in a mire of gun debate. I think if more people actually identified with the victims they would be more willing to do anything to minimise such incidents occurring, even give up their guns. There I said it, voluntarily give up their guns! I have never owned a gun and would only consider one if the community I lived in become anarchistic and the rule of law broke down or if survival was dependant on hunting or even farming.
I am so glad I don't live in a culture dominated by guns, I think I would see that as symbolic of a failed society. If I genuinely needed a gun for protection, then the country I live in is no longer striving to be civilised and has become anarchistic. I would understand the need for guns in an anarchist society, but not in a civilized one. Perhaps America already is part anarchistic with a facade of being civilised. I don't know what the answers are, but if I was given the choice of choosing between a gun culture and a non gun culture, I would choose the latter every day of the week.
The problem, E-tard, is me giving up my guns won't stop some nutjob from doing this again. Thats what you don't seem to understand, E-tard.
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The problem, E-tard, is me giving up my guns won't stop some nutjob from doing this again. Thats what you don't seem to understand, E-tard.
What a load of bullshit. Worked here.
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Banning guns wont prevent incidents like this anymore than making drugs illegal ended drug use.
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Say something about 64yo Taxi driver raping deaf 10 yo girl in Sydney, or machine gun attack on a member of the Australian Defence League by Muslims , and no country wants that .
PS.Why U a on Disability Pension Mr.E-Kully ::)
What has taxi drivers raping kids got to do with guns?
PS: Why U an Outlaw Motorcycle Club Member?
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People dont always do things because the law tells them not to, they do them because they dont want to.
Legalising guns wont increase my desire to get one, just as the legalization of Heroin wont make me start using it.
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Banning guns wont prevent incidents like this anymore than making drugs illegal ended drug use.
Sounds like what all the redneck right wingers said here in Australia after our last gun massacre. Strange really, there hasn't been a massacre since, I guess they were wrong.
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Sounds like what all the redneck right wingers said here in Australia after our last gun massacre. Strange really, there hasn't been a massacre since, I guess they were wrong.
Are you calling me a redneck? I thought we were islam fighting buddies? ;D
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LMAO, Americans and their guns own a lot of real estate in the your head E-Kul.
You`re their bitch.
Now go entertain some pitbulls.
PS, Americans don`t give a fuck what you think, you are unimportant get over it...
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LMAO, Americans and their guns own a lot of real estate in the your head E-Kul.
You`re their bitch.
Now go entertain some pitbulls.
PS, Americans don`t give a fuck what you think, you are unimportant get over it...
I own the American Gun Nutters minds. They are the ones that meltdown whenever the Australian System is highlighted as an example of how strict gun laws prevent regular massacres. They simply refuse to accept the truth of it, and go of on ridiculous tangents or just dig their heels in stubbornly. I simply accept they have been brainwashed from a young age with all types of nonsense and that accepting any other view point would find themselves on the outer and constantly treated poorly just as they have raged at gun control advocates their entire lives. It's sad really,to hold so staunchly onto an ideal that is so patently false and dangerous and has led to countless innocent people being unnecessarily murdered.
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Are you calling me a redneck? I thought we were islam fighting buddies? ;D
There, there buddy. It's OK to have divergent opinions to other people, I still support your anti-Islamic views, I just have different views on gun control. I'm Australian, were not raised by the NRA and fed propaganda our whole lives regarding guns. Actually, no Australian I ever meet ever talks about them. It really is a non-issue here, this is hard to grasp for Americans, who due to their insular understanding of the world fail to grasp that not everyone is like them or thinks like them.
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People need guns - every household should own at least one given they're independent citizens.
The eurotrash gun criticism will all cease to exist when shit hits the fan.
An armed society is a polite society - carry and smile :)
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You have to understand most of these army types are low IQ individuals, and approximately 15 percent of them are sociopaths. Welcome to the US army bro.
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Violent crime has risen in Asstralia since their new gun laws. Ekul is an idiot. Gun massacres down, all other violent crime up, yet he's winning. What a fucking liberal derangement syndrome argument. Don't even bother with this guy it's a waste of time.
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An armed society is a polite society - carry and smile :)
That's the most ludicrous cliche I have ever heard. Americans must be the rudest, impolite and most hostile of all first world countries. I ask myself then why does America have the highest homicide rate of the first world. It seems your gun culture has made you all incredibly impolite. It's amazing how people can constantly repeat propaganda even when it is patently false. A society where children get murdered at school is a FAILED society, the very antithesis of being polite and civilised society
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Violent crime has risen in Asstralia since their new gun laws. Ekul is an idiot. Gun massacres down, all other violent crime up, yet he's winning. What a fucking liberal derangement syndrome argument. Don't even bother with this guy it's a waste of time.
Here we go again with the NRA propaganda and lies. This is the problem with Gun Nutters, they have to simply boldfaced lie about other countries crime stats to continue believing their nonsense and lies. Our own government accused your NRA of being liars and distorting our crime statistics. The NRA continues to simply ignore the truth and continue spewing forth lies and nonsense as it has always done and always will. An NRA type organization would go nowhere in Australia, there aren't enough gullible and stupid people who would buy into all their ridiculousness.
Faking waves: how the NRA and pro-gun Americans abuse Australian crime stats
https://theconversation.com/faking-waves-how-the-nra-and-pro-gun-americans-abuse-australian-crime-stats-11678 (https://theconversation.com/faking-waves-how-the-nra-and-pro-gun-americans-abuse-australian-crime-stats-11678)
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I hear a lot of your Ozzie women are being gang raped and murdered by muslims, and your police are corrupt. You fools need to get some guns.
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I hear a lot of your Ozzie women are being gang raped and murdered by muslims, and your police are corrupt. You fools need to get some guns.
That's the problem, you heard wrong. Maybe you should concern yourself with who is telling you this information and ask yourself if it may be biased to support an agenda. We heard American children were being murdered at school on a regular basis, you fools need to get some guns, Oh Wait! That's right you already do, that's why kids get murdered at school. Good for you, the kids aren't as important as some deranged fantasy of owning countless firearms though eh!
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Butchered by an Arab down under.
(http://l.yimg.com/ea/img/-/140404/kara_doyle_19jsear-19jseb0.jpg)
In the lead up to shooting Kara, he became increasingly violent.
He broke his hand punching walls, smashed plates over his own head and had threatened to kill Kara and others.
At this point, Kara was jobless, broke and desperate to leave.
“He threatened Kara as well, he put a blowtorch to her face,” her mother Jenny said.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/vic/a/22378321/vic-girlfriend-shooter-jailed-for-8-years/
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Butchered by an Arab down under.
(http://l.yimg.com/ea/img/-/140404/kara_doyle_19jsear-19jseb0.jpg)
http://au.news.yahoo.com/vic/a/22378321/vic-girlfriend-shooter-jailed-for-8-years/
Newsflash - Crime happens everywhere. Our homicide rate in a year is less than Americas homicide rate in a week.
PS: Probably not a good example, that was an accidental shooting.
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Newsflash - Crime happens everywhere. Our homicide rate in a year is less than Americas homicide rate in a week.
Shut the fuck up retard. You need to factor negroes into your stats.
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That's the most ludicrous cliche I have ever heard. Americans must be the rudest, impolite and most hostile of all first world countries. I ask myself then why does America have the highest homicide rate of the first world. It seems your gun culture has made you all incredibly impolite. It's amazing how people can constantly repeat propaganda even when it is patently false. A society where children get murdered at school is a FAILED society, the very antithesis of being polite and civilised society
Mr. E-Kul - dis-functional people are killing themselves and others, not guns.
Btw, I'm Austrian, only by passport, where guns are "muh bad". I had the pleasure of meeting people and their guns to assess the issue. If the majority of Austrians were like them we would be a great nation.
Unfortunately most people like to hand over any critical matters to the "professionals" - be it politics, science, guns, thinking, health issues etc.
There are of course bad apples that need to have their guns taken from them - but there's no need to let them spoil the bunch.
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E-Kul lives in fear.
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E-Fool is currently the biggest retard on getbig
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E-Kul lives in fear.
Maybe I should buy a gun, isn't that what people who live in fear do?
See that's the thing, if I actually felt afraid and fearful of some epidemic crime wave I would go and buy a gun, seriously!
People who are afraid buy and own guns, it's that simple. The whole industry is based on fear mongering and propaganda, making the average citizen believe they are about to be violated any day now, by the criminal, by their government etc etc. Only a fool would buy into such nonsense. (and there is no shortage of fools in America)
One of the very reasons I don't feel afraid and fearful is because of our strict gun regulations. I don't have to worry in the theatre, in public or sending my kids to school. If Australia ever becomes like America with overwhelming homicide and crime I might consider gun ownership, but one of the very reasons Australia is is so safe is because we haven't tipped over into a gun culture, if the majority owned guns, Australia would soon end up in the mess America has been in for decades.
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Newsflash - Crime happens everywhere. Our homicide rate in a year is less than Americas homicide rate in a week.
PS: Probably not a good example, that was an accidental shooting.
In the lead up to shooting Kara, he became increasingly violent.
He broke his hand punching walls, smashed plates over his own head and had threatened to kill Kara and others.
At this point, Kara was jobless, broke and desperate to leave.
“He threatened Kara as well, he put a blowtorch to her face,” her mother Jenny said.
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Maybe I should buy a gun, isn't that what people who live in fear do?
See that's the thing, if I actually felt afraid and fearful of some epidemic crime wave I would go and buy a gun, seriously!
People who are afraid buy and own guns, it's that simple. The whole industry is based on fear mongering and propaganda, making the average citizen believe they are about to be violated any day now, by the criminal, by their government etc etc. Only a fool would buy into such nonsense. (and there is no shortage of fools in America)
One of the very reasons I don't feel afraid and fearful is because of our strict gun regulations. I don't have to worry in the theatre, in public or sending my kids to school. If Australia ever becomes like America with overwhelming homicide and crime I might consider gun ownership, but one of the very reasons Australia is is so safe is because we haven't tipped over into a gun culture, if the majority owned guns, Australia would soon end up in the mess America has been in for decades.
They took your guns....we're not a mess. You have 23.5 million people in a massive country...we have 350 million people.
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That still doesn't lessen my risk of being killed by some random gun nutter in a high gun ownership country. My risk will still be far higher than it need be. Imagine there was no speed laws, and as a result there were more serious accidents, imagine I supported speed limits and was told by those who didn't support such laws "Well, just don't fucking speed then". They may decrease my chances slightly of being killed on the road, but I am still put at greater risk of being killed by another speeding driver than if I would be in a country with speed limits"
Then move to a fucking low gun ownership country where you will be safe from the big bad boogeyman. Case closed,
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I wonder if E-Fool is even aware of the myriad of recreational reasons americans own guns...they are not solely for 'protection' ::)
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He does not seem to have a good grip on America.....its not a free fire zone.
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What has taxi drivers raping kids got to do with guns?
PS: Why U an Outlaw Motorcycle Club Member?
Crime is crime.
Outlaw MC, never heard about them :) something Swedish ???
Whats yours disability, booze or ???
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Sounds like what all the redneck right wingers said here in Australia after our last gun massacre. Strange really, there hasn't been a massacre since, I guess they were wrong.
......and that 'GUN' was resold by nice police sargent .........
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Gent's REAL Aussie news: www.ozbiker.org
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E-kul is an Aussie ??? I thought that poofter was from canada.
I hope a pack of wild dingos visit him tonight.
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E-kul is an Aussie ??? I thought that poofter was from canada.
I hope a pack of wild dingos visit him tonight.
Just on TV news: NO more rooms in Tasmanian's jails ???, whats now E-Kullyy ::)