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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: King Shizzo on April 05, 2014, 06:44:46 AM
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We all know the pros/cons of steroids. We know that (taken properly) the pros far outweigh the cons, in terms of the potential energy, strength, and recovery.
But what about the guys who refuse to take steroids? I suggest taking at least a fat burner. I know from first hand experience. They helped me lose 60+ pounds.
The reason I say this is because I recently started taking fat burners again (Hydroxycut Hardcore this time)
It really is a great supplement. You not only feel a rush of energy for hours, but it also is an appetite suppressant. You do not feel the need to binge while on this supplement.
The energy goes a long way to help break plateaus in the gym, and the food cravings go away.
Fat burners replace creatine as the #1 supplement a natural can use in my opinion.
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I am serious though. I am willing to bet that the window that fat burners give (3-4 hours per dose) rivals almost any AAS stack. Remember, I am just talking about energy here.
Fat burners/Pre-workouts give naturals as much energy as the Mr. Olmpia, It is just in a smaller window.
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Professional-grade industrial-strength post
I had an even more attractive picture up initially.
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Does anyone have something to contribute to the topic?
My theory is that a natural can have as much (if not more) energy than a steroid user while on these supplements.
Only fools would think that they would get you the same results. I am saying that these supplements can give naturals the advantage they need to reach the natural limit for their genetic potential.
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I am serious though. I am willing to bet that the window that fat burners give (3-4 hours per dose) rivals almost any AAS stack. Remember, I am just talking about energy here.
Fat burners/Pre-workouts give naturals as much energy as the Mr. Olmpia, It is just in a smaller window.
they see me trolling
they hating
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they see me trolling
they hating
I am not trolling at all my friend. I had taken a long break from those supplements (at least a year)
I legit felt like a coke head (never snorted coke, but you get my point) when I started taking them again.
I had the energy to workout for hours straight, and did not feel hunger pains.
I'd say that is a natural's holy grail.
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I am not trolling at all my friend. I had taken a long break from those supplements (at least a year)
I legit felt like a coke head (never snorted coke, but you get my point) when I started taking them again.
I had the energy to workout for hours straight, and did not feel hunger pains.
I'd say that is a natural's holy grail.
just drink a cup of coffee before you work out
spend your money on quality food
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I am not trolling at all my friend. I had taken a long break from those supplements (at least a year)
I legit felt like a coke head (never snorted coke, but you get my point) when I started taking them again.
I had the energy to workout for hours straight, and did not feel hunger pains.
I'd say that is a natural's holy grail.
ok, back to business.
yeah fatburners are dope, you should try these, way cheaper than hydroxycut.
http://www.amazon.com/Extreme-Thermogenic-Supplement-Garcinia-Cambogia/dp/B00AWHMVVW/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1396707731&sr=8-4&keywords=fat+burner (http://meatspin.com/)
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just drink a cup of coffee before you work out
spend your money on quality food
It's not the same. I regularly use caffiene, whether in diet soda or the occasional 5-hour energy.
My (like most people's) caffiene receptor's are shot, but with fatburners/pre-workout's, you can see a huge difference.
It's like the first time. Everytime.
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Did he died?
sprained ankle/sublexed shoulder.
about it.
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sprained ankle/sublexed shoulder.
about it.
hallelujah, god is great!
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hallelujah, god is great!
Full story here on the train incident.
www.foxnews.com/world/2014/04/05/ (http://meatspin.com/)
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just drink a cup of coffee before you work out
spend your money on quality food
This! caff tablet or sugar-free energy drink will also work.
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We all know the pros/cons of steroids. We know that (taken properly) the pros far outweigh the cons, in terms of the potential energy, strength, and recovery.
But what about the guys who refuse to take steroids? I suggest taking at least a fat burner. I know from first hand experience. They helped me lose 60+ pounds.
The reason I say this is because I recently started taking fat burners again (Hydroxycut Hardcore this time)
It really is a great supplement. You not only feel a rush of energy for hours, but it also is an appetite suppressant. You do not feel the need to binge while on this supplement.
The energy goes a long way to help break plateaus in the gym, and the food cravings go away.
Fat burners replace creatine as the #1 supplement a natural can use in my opinion.
Why a young man should need to take stims is beyond me... he's already got the power of youth on his side.
Stims also place a great deal of stress on the adrenal glands and nervous system.
For many people stims become a crutch. If you are tired from training or any other reason, your body is trying to tell you something... listen to it and rest. There is always another day to train.
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Why a young man should need to take stims is beyond me... he's already got the power of youth on his side.
Stims also place a great deal of stress on the adrenal glands and nervous system.
For many people stims become a crutch. If you are tired from training or any other reason, your body is trying to tell you something... listen to it and rest. There is always another day to train.
What are you talking about? Most first world people take "stims" on a daily basis. Whethet its chocolate, soda, or coffee. Most of us are unkowingly addicted to caffiene.
Fat burners give you a potent dose in a specific window. Take them 45 minutes to an hour before a workout, and you will have some of the best sessions of your life.
Coffee does not compare. Lol
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What are you talking about? Most first world people take "stims" on a daily basis. Whethet its chocolate, soda, or coffee. Most of us are unkowingly addicted to caffiene.
Fat burners give you a potent dose in a specific window. Take them 45 minutes to an hour before a workout, and you will have some of the best sessions of your life.
Coffee does not compare. Lol
why do you keep reporting this thread to the mods shizzo
didnt realise you had turned into a snitching little bitch ???
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just drink a cup of coffee before you work out
spend your money on quality food
This.
Coffee gives you a boost and its natural. The come down is negligible.
Fat burners are unhealthy. Plus, really - how many extra calories do the really burn considering the sides.
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why do you keep reporting this thread to the mods shizzo
didnt realise you had turned into a snitching little bitch ???
SNITCHO
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What are you talking about? Most first world people take "stims" on a daily basis. Whethet its chocolate, soda, or coffee. Most of us are unkowingly addicted to caffiene.
Fat burners give you a potent dose in a specific window. Take them 45 minutes to an hour before a workout, and you will have some of the best sessions of your life.
Coffee does not compare. Lol
How old are you?
I thought I knew it all when I was 20 years old too -lol
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why do you keep reporting this thread to the mods shizzo
didnt realise you had turned into a snitching little bitch ???
Keep? I reported the gaping anus gif. That was one time in this thread.
I have hit the report to mod button maybe 3 times in all my years here.
I never have anything to hide.
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What are you talking about? Most first world people take "stims" on a daily basis. Whethet its chocolate, soda, or coffee. Most of us are unkowingly addicted to caffiene.
Fat burners give you a potent dose in a specific window. Take them 45 minutes to an hour before a workout, and you will have some of the best sessions of your life.
Coffee does not compare. Lol
Willpower not strong in this one.
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How old are you?
I thought I knew it all when I was 20 years old too -lol
32. I would say that an extra strength 5 hour energy is comparable, but fat burners also act as an appetite suppressant. You do not feel hungry.
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Keep? I reported the gaping anus gif. That was one time in this thread.
I have hit the report to mod button maybe 3 times in all my years here.
I never have anything to hide.
can you provide proof of the existance of this gaping anus gif?
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can you provide proof of the existance of this gaping anus gif?
No, because you replaced it. I jumped the gun on reporting it to the mods.
I did not know if you woul respond to taking it down.
It was a disgusting gif, and I was looking out for the other members who might open this thread in public.
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No, because you replaced it. I jumped the gun on reporting it to the mods.
I did not know if you woul respond to taking it down.
It was a disgusting gif, and I was looking out for the other members who might open this thread in public.
are you the kind of guy who calls the cops cuz there is a black guy in your neighborhood? do you just "jump the gun" throwing a case on him?
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are you the kind of guy who calls the cops cuz there is a black guy in your neighborhood? do you just "jump the gun" throwing a case on him?
Lol, never called the cops in my life.
Nice try.
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shizzo trying to appear relevant to this forum in this thread.
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shizzo trying to appear relevant to this forum in this thread.
consider this post as good as reported.
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Some things never change ;D
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32. I would say that an extra strength 5 hour energy is comparable, but fat burners also act as an appetite suppressant. You do not feel hungry.
Most are aware of these things already. Have you just discovered these things?
When I was your age, I was tearing it up in the gym 6 days/wk.... no stims necessary.
No amount of caffeine of ephedra containing products will make up for a sub-par diet or lack of will power.
Stims are toxic stuff and should be used sparingly.
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Most are aware of these things already. Have you just discovered these things?
When I was your age, I was tearing it up in the gym 6 days/wk.... no stims necessary.
No amount of caffeine of ephedra containing products will make up for a sub-par diet or lack of will power.
Stims are toxic stuff and should be used sparingly.
So "Mr. Anabolic", am I to assume you were on steroids during this time?
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So "Mr. Anabolic", am I to assume you were on steroids during this time?
You reckon the stims you are taking are less harmful than gear?
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You reckon the stims you are taking are less harmful than gear?
Depends. If you are staking multiple steroids at medium to high dosages, then I would say no.
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We all know the pros/cons of steroids. We know that (taken properly) the pros far outweigh the cons, in terms of the potential energy, strength, and recovery.
But what about the guys who refuse to take steroids? I suggest taking at least a fat burner. I know from first hand experience. They helped me lose 60+ pounds.
The reason I say this is because I recently started taking fat burners again (Hydroxycut Hardcore this time)
It really is a great supplement. You not only feel a rush of energy for hours, but it also is an appetite suppressant. You do not feel the need to binge while on this supplement.
The energy goes a long way to help break plateaus in the gym, and the food cravings go away.
Fat burners replace creatine as the #1 supplement a natural can use in my opinion.
I think powerful pre training are very useful for the night worker / big eater i am. It help me to kick my ass at the gym and suppress the appetite at night.
I'm using calibre50 from grenade and i can say it's a really good stuff.
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More over-complications. You're gonna fuck this up, like you did all those other ones. KISS.
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Yes, everyone should definitely take advice from this guy regarding health and fitness.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=516037.0;attach=553185;image)
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I saw shizzo pumping out 25 rep pushups fat burners probably helped since they are a form of speed. Shizzo can you post the video again I dont have it.
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I didnt know that his pushup video was only possible due to performance enhancing fat burners.
getbigs lance armstrong :-\
EDIT: with the exception of career success etc
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I didnt know that his pushup video was only possible due to performance enhancing fat burners.
getbigs lance armstrong :-\
Good point.
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Does anyone have something to contribute to the topic?
My theory is that a natural can have as much (if not more) energy than a steroid user while on these supplements.
Only fools would think that they would get you the same results. I am saying that these supplements can give naturals the advantage they need to reach the natural limit for their genetic potential.
Dude it aint about feeling good its about LOOKING GOOD. I'm built for show, not for go. I'm here for a good time, not a long time. Steronz generally make me lethargic for quite a while, so i definitely don't feel great on a blast cycle but I LOOK GOOD.
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I saw shizzo pumping out 25 rep pushups fat burners probably helped since they are a form of speed. Shizzo can you post the video again I dont have it.
Imagine the strength needed to push 250+ pounds 25 times.
Especially for someone who rarely does pushups.
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Imagine the strength needed to push 250+ pounds 25 times.
Especially for someone who rarely does pushups.
Yes, you have to look like a tub of lard. Congrats.
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Yes, you have to look like a tub of lard. Congrats.
I do not look obese as some have claimed. I am mass with class.
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I do not look obese as some have claimed. I am mass with class.
Whatever helps you sleep better at night.
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Imagine the strength needed to push 250+ pounds 25 times.
Especially for someone who rarely does pushups.
Josh wont challenge that .
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Shizzo what are you doing after you take the fat burners/energy drink?
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Shizzo what are you doing after you take the fat burners/energy drink?
lounge about in sweats.
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Shizzo what are you doing after you take the fat burners/energy drink?
(http://a.gifb.in/032010/1267527853_old_guy_going_crazy.gif)
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=516037.0;attach=553185;image)
"Daddy get off of me, you're crushing my cigarettes."
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Shizzo what are you doing after you take the fat burners/energy drink?
Supposed to be working out. Thats not the point. They give naturals the edge they need to make significant progress.
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Supposed to be working out. Thats not the point. They give naturals the edge they need to make significant progress.
Not if they eat excess cals they dont.
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Not if they eat excess cals they dont.
It's an appetite suppressant also ::) You should have no desire to eat food for most of the day.
You are burining more calories in the gym (with the added energy) and you are unknowingly eating less calories because you do not feel the need to over eat.
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It's an appetite suppressant also ::) You should have no desire to eat food for most of the day.
You are burining more calories in the gym (with the added energy) and you are unknowingly eating less calories because you do not feel the need to over eat.
Idiot.
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Idiot.
How? Fat burners are designed to make you eat less.
Are you saying that fat burners do not work?
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How? Fat burners are designed to make you eat less.
Are you saying that fat burners do not work?
lame shizzo, really lame.
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What are you talking about? Most first world people take "stims" on a daily basis. Whethet its chocolate, soda, or coffee. Most of us are unkowingly addicted to caffiene.
Fat burners give you a potent dose in a specific window. Take them 45 minutes to an hour before a workout, and you will have some of the best sessions of your life.
Coffee does not compare. Lol
Coffee does not compare for many because they are habituated to coffee. They don't necessarily associate it with pre-training because they have it with breakfast, at 11 o' clock in work, when they go for lunch, after a meal etc. You associate the ridiculously overpriced "fat-burners" with training and therefore benefit greatly from a placebo effect and a megadose of caffeine (compared to normal cup of coffee) with some synergistic stimulant ingredients perhaps giving you an extra kick.
But make no mistake, the effects of LEGAL pre-workout supplements are 95% due to caffeine. If you limit your coffee to your pre-workout period and dose it accordingly (X mg caffeine per X kg bodyweight) you will feel its effects.
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Coffee does not compare for many because they are habituated to coffee. They don't necessarily associate it with pre-training because they have it with breakfast, at 11 o' clock in work, when they go for lunch, after a meal etc. You associate the ridiculously overpriced "fat-burners" with training and therefore benefit greatly from a placebo effect and a megadose of caffeine (compared to normal cup of coffee) with some synergistic stimulant ingredients perhaps giving you an extra kick.
But make no mistake, the effects of LEGAL pre-workout supplements are 95% due to caffeine. If you limit your coffee to your pre-workout period and dose it accordingly (X mg caffeine per X kg bodyweight) you will feel its effects.
I never said caffieine was not the major component. What I am saying, is that coffee does not compare, especially for people who drink coffee daily.
My fat burner cost 20.00 bucks for a 3+ week supply. How much does an inferior coffee cost per the same time period?
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I never said caffieine was not the major component. What I am saying, is that coffee does not compare, especially for people who drink coffee daily.
My fat burner cost 20.00 bucks for a 3+ week supply. How much does an inferior coffee cost per the same time period?
A good quality ground coffee costs less than 10 and will last for several weeks. Also, caffeine tablets are dirt cheap and give the same effect. You can dose them much easier too.
I get what you're saying about the fat burners but ultimately caffeine is dirt cheap and many of these pre-workout stimulants are really overpriced. Also, on the appetite suppression thing, that is a major hindrance to naturals trying to gain weight as they often won't have as large an appetite as somebody who is using.
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A good quality ground coffee costs less than 10 and will last for several weeks. Also, caffeine tablets are dirt cheap and give the same effect. You can dose them much easier too.
I get what you're saying about the fat burners but ultimately caffeine is dirt cheap and many of these pre-workout stimulants are really overpriced. Also, on the appetite suppression thing, that is a major hindrance to naturals trying to gain weight as they often won't have as large an appetite as somebody who is using.
Stop wasting time with this fuckwit, he doesnt have a fucking clue what hes talking about.
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Naturals trying to gain weight? They are called fat burners for a reason.
This is for naturals who want to burn fat. Where did I ever state differently?
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Naturals trying to gain weight? They are called fat burners for a reason.
This is for naturals who want to burn fat. Where did I ever state differently?
In the thread title.
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I miss when Josh was focused on you, not wasting time with TA and his wife
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We all know the pros/cons of steroids. We know that (taken properly) the pros far outweigh the cons, in terms of the potential energy, strength, and recovery.
But what about the guys who refuse to take steroids? I suggest taking at least a fat burner. I know from first hand experience. They helped me lose 60+ pounds.
The reason I say this is because I recently started taking fat burners again (Hydroxycut Hardcore this time)
It really is a great supplement. You not only feel a rush of energy for hours, but it also is an appetite suppressant. You do not feel the need to binge while on this supplement.
The energy goes a long way to help break plateaus in the gym, and the food cravings go away.
Fat burners replace creatine as the #1 supplement a natural can use in my opinion.
Is this fat fuck giving bodybuilding advice ::)
(http://indiegamers.com/attachments/fat-jpg.796/)
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Da Shiz gives advice to people who lift?
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So "Mr. Anabolic", am I to assume you were on steroids during this time?
90% of the time... no.
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Shizzo
The bottom line is you are pretty unfit. Fit people can work out just fine.
I like to do short runs. Out here in Thailand at 35C/95F -that's usually a 5k run every other day at around 24 mins and 30 seconds. It's hot, it's humid, I'm reasonably fit but no athlete and I'm 43. On alternate days I cycle 30k in an hour and 15 mins - but that's not flat out because the terrain (and dogs) don't allow it.
Now - what risks am I taking on if I add a fat burner to that equation? Well, I don't think they are small. Not with the humidity, temperature and my age. Neither do I think they are small for am obese 32 year old like yourself who is trying to get in shape. Why on earth take such risks?
For a buzz?
You are also an addict. As an addict you should know that stimulants don't GIVE you anything, then just borrow from some future point. Hence comedowns and hangovers.
There is nothing worse than being unfit and starting to exercise again. It's fucking horrible. On the other hand, you get a nice, natural buzz just by training when you are fit.
You just have to grit your teeth and get fit. That is all. As an addict you should not fall in to the trap of trying to shortcut fitness through pills. You aren't working out to get a buzz, you are working out to better yourself.
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Shizzo
The bottom line is you are pretty unfit. Fit people can work out just fine.
I like to do short runs. Out here in Thailand at 35C/95F -that's usually a 5k run every other day at around 24 mins and 30 seconds. It's hot, it's humid, I'm reasonably fit but no athlete and I'm 43. ???On alternate days I cycle 30k in an hour and 15 mins - but that's not flat out because the terrain (and dogs) don't allow it.
Now - what risks am I taking on if I add a fat burner to that equation? Well, I don't think they are small. Not with the humidity, temperature and my age. Neither do I think they are small for am obese 32 year old like yourself who is trying to get in shape. Why on earth take such risks?
For a buzz?
You are also an addict. As an addict you should know that stimulants don't GIVE you anything, then just borrow from some future point. Hence comedowns and hangovers.
There is nothing worse than being unfit and starting to exercise again. It's fucking horrible. On the other hand, you get a nice, natural buzz just by training when you are fit.
You just have to grit your teeth and get fit. That is all. As an addict you should not fall in to the trap of trying to shortcut fitness through pills. You aren't working out to get a buzz, you are working out to better yourself.
solid advice. I am being a bitch about it. The alcohol puts a damper on everything. During the work week, its not so bad, but on the weekends?
Forget it. I am drunk 75% of the weekend.
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solid advice. I am being a bitch about it. The alcohol puts a damper on everything. During the work week, its not so bad, but on the weekends?
Forget it. I am drunk 75% of my life.
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I know you may think it's a joke, but I am truly coming to a crossroads.
I might have to start a days without alcohol diary on here. Something to document my thoughts and potential struggles. I have about 2-3 shots of vodka left. I want to stop cold turkey after that (which would be today)
I would like the support of Getbig when this happens. Who knows how I will handle the possible withdrawls?