I suggest that every natural use either a Pre-workout or a fat burner.

[King Shizzo]

We all know the pros/cons of steroids. We know that (taken properly) the pros far outweigh the cons, in terms of the potential energy, strength, and recovery.

But what about the guys who refuse to take steroids? I suggest taking at least a fat burner.  I know from first hand experience. They helped me lose 60+ pounds.

The reason I say this is because I recently started taking fat burners again (Hydroxycut Hardcore this time)

It really is a great supplement. You not only feel a rush of energy for hours, but it also is an appetite suppressant. You do not feel the need to binge while on this supplement.

The energy goes a long way to help break plateaus in the gym, and the food cravings go away.


Fat burners replace creatine as the #1 supplement a natural can use in my opinion.

[King Shizzo]

I am serious though. I am willing to bet that the window that fat burners give (3-4 hours per dose) rivals almost any AAS stack. Remember, I am just talking about energy here.

Fat burners/Pre-workouts give naturals as much energy as the Mr. Olmpia, It is just in a smaller window.

[visualizeperfection]

Professional-grade industrial-strength post

I had an even more attractive picture up initially.

[King Shizzo]

Does anyone have something to contribute to the topic?

My theory is that a natural can have as much (if not more) energy than a steroid user while on these supplements.

Only fools would think that they would get you the same results. I am saying that these supplements can give naturals the advantage they need to reach the natural limit for their genetic potential.

[bigmc]

I am serious though. I am willing to bet that the window that fat burners give (3-4 hours per dose) rivals almost any AAS stack. Remember, I am just talking about energy here.

Fat burners/Pre-workouts give naturals as much energy as the Mr. Olmpia, It is just in a smaller window.

they see me trolling

they hating

[King Shizzo]

they see me trolling

they hating

I am not trolling at all my friend. I had taken a long break from those supplements (at least a year)

I legit felt like a coke head (never snorted coke, but you get my point) when I started taking them again.

I had the energy to workout for hours straight, and did not feel hunger pains.

I'd say that is a natural's holy grail.

[bigmc]

I am not trolling at all my friend. I had taken a long break from those supplements (at least a year)

I legit felt like a coke head (never snorted coke, but you get my point) when I started taking them again.

I had the energy to workout for hours straight, and did not feel hunger pains.

I'd say that is a natural's holy grail.

just drink a cup of coffee before you work out

spend your money on quality food

[visualizeperfection]

I am not trolling at all my friend. I had taken a long break from those supplements (at least a year)

I legit felt like a coke head (never snorted coke, but you get my point) when I started taking them again.

I had the energy to workout for hours straight, and did not feel hunger pains.

I'd say that is a natural's holy grail.

ok, back to business.

yeah fatburners are dope, you should try these, way cheaper than hydroxycut.

http://www.amazon.com/Extreme-Thermogenic-Supplement-Garcinia-Cambogia/dp/B00AWHMVVW/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1396707731&sr=8-4&keywords=fat+burner

[King Shizzo]

just drink a cup of coffee before you work out

spend your money on quality food

It's not the same. I regularly use caffiene, whether in diet soda or the occasional 5-hour energy.

My (like most people's) caffiene receptor's are shot, but with fatburners/pre-workout's, you can see a huge difference.

It's like the first time. Everytime.

[visualizeperfection]

Did he died?

sprained ankle/sublexed shoulder.

about it.

[Knooger]

sprained ankle/sublexed shoulder.

about it.

hallelujah, god is great!

[visualizeperfection]

hallelujah, god is great!

Full story here on the train incident.

www.foxnews.com/world/2014/04/05/

[G_Thang]

just drink a cup of coffee before you work out

spend your money on quality food

This!  caff tablet or sugar-free energy drink will also work.  

[Mr Anabolic]

We all know the pros/cons of steroids. We know that (taken properly) the pros far outweigh the cons, in terms of the potential energy, strength, and recovery.

But what about the guys who refuse to take steroids? I suggest taking at least a fat burner.  I know from first hand experience. They helped me lose 60+ pounds.

The reason I say this is because I recently started taking fat burners again (Hydroxycut Hardcore this time)

It really is a great supplement. You not only feel a rush of energy for hours, but it also is an appetite suppressant. You do not feel the need to binge while on this supplement.

The energy goes a long way to help break plateaus in the gym, and the food cravings go away.


Fat burners replace creatine as the #1 supplement a natural can use in my opinion.

Why a young man should need to take stims is beyond me... he's already got the power of youth on his side.

Stims also place a great deal of stress on the adrenal glands and nervous system.

For many people stims become a crutch.  If you are tired from training or any other reason, your body is trying to tell you something... listen to it and rest.  There is always another day to train.

[King Shizzo]

Why a young man should need to take stims is beyond me... he's already got the power of youth on his side.

Stims also place a great deal of stress on the adrenal glands and nervous system.

For many people stims become a crutch.  If you are tired from training or any other reason, your body is trying to tell you something... listen to it and rest.  There is always another day to train.

What are you talking about? Most first world people take "stims" on a daily basis. Whethet its chocolate, soda, or coffee. Most of us are unkowingly addicted to caffiene.

Fat burners give you a potent dose in a specific window. Take them 45 minutes to an hour before a workout, and you will have some of the best sessions of your life.

Coffee does not compare. Lol

[bigmc]

What are you talking about? Most first world people take "stims" on a daily basis. Whethet its chocolate, soda, or coffee. Most of us are unkowingly addicted to caffiene.

Fat burners give you a potent dose in a specific window. Take them 45 minutes to an hour before a workout, and you will have some of the best sessions of your life.

Coffee does not compare. Lol

why do you keep reporting this thread to the mods shizzo

didnt realise you had turned into a snitching little bitch 

[pedro01]

just drink a cup of coffee before you work out

spend your money on quality food

This.

Coffee gives you a boost and its natural. The come down is negligible.

Fat burners are unhealthy. Plus, really - how many extra calories do the really burn considering the sides.

[visualizeperfection]

why do you keep reporting this thread to the mods shizzo

didnt realise you had turned into a snitching little bitch 

SNITCHO

[Mr Anabolic]

What are you talking about? Most first world people take "stims" on a daily basis. Whethet its chocolate, soda, or coffee. Most of us are unkowingly addicted to caffiene.

Fat burners give you a potent dose in a specific window. Take them 45 minutes to an hour before a workout, and you will have some of the best sessions of your life.

Coffee does not compare. Lol

How old are you? 

I thought I knew it all when I was 20 years old too -lol

[King Shizzo]

why do you keep reporting this thread to the mods shizzo

didnt realise you had turned into a snitching little bitch 

Keep? I reported the gaping anus gif. That was one time in this thread.

I have hit the report to mod button maybe 3 times in all my years here.

I never have anything to hide.

[pedro01]

What are you talking about? Most first world people take "stims" on a daily basis. Whethet its chocolate, soda, or coffee. Most of us are unkowingly addicted to caffiene.

Fat burners give you a potent dose in a specific window. Take them 45 minutes to an hour before a workout, and you will have some of the best sessions of your life.

Coffee does not compare. Lol

Willpower not strong in this one.

[King Shizzo]

How old are you? 

I thought I knew it all when I was 20 years old too -lol

32. I would say that an extra strength 5 hour energy is comparable, but fat burners also act as an appetite suppressant. You do not feel hungry.

[visualizeperfection]

Keep? I reported the gaping anus gif. That was one time in this thread.

I have hit the report to mod button maybe 3 times in all my years here.

I never have anything to hide.

can you provide proof of the existance of this gaping anus gif?

[King Shizzo]

can you provide proof of the existance of this gaping anus gif?

No, because you replaced it. I jumped the gun on reporting it to the mods.

I did not know if you woul respond to taking it down.

It was a disgusting gif, and I was looking out for the other members who might open this thread in public.

[visualizeperfection]

No, because you replaced it. I jumped the gun on reporting it to the mods.

I did not know if you woul respond to taking it down.

It was a disgusting gif, and I was looking out for the other members who might open this thread in public.

are you the kind of guy who calls the cops cuz there is a black guy in your neighborhood? do you just "jump the gun" throwing a case on him?