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Title: I Hate Test...
Post by: Skorp1o on April 29, 2014, 02:31:53 AM
Dropped it to one shot every two weeks, dead on TRT dose, I just don't like the way it makes me look and feel.

Once I run out of enanthate, I'll be taking: 50mg Test Prop+100mg Tren Ace. Monday and same again Thursday, two hits a week.

I'm only cutting and don't need size as I don't compete, just after muscle hardness to be maintained with caloric deficit.

But I serioulsy don't undertsand all the hype about test, I hate with it a passion and its my least favourite compound now since I started back on this time around. Face bloat, oily skin, all I think about is tits...etc. Was hardly at home last two weeks, I just can't say no to a date or a sexual encounter and it gets tiring...a road I tried to tame a long while ago.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: dyslexic on April 29, 2014, 03:01:33 AM
Sorry that you wasted your money on bogus shit from a dirty source...


Test rocks. Throw in some E.Q and call it good. Fuck all.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: Skorp1o on April 29, 2014, 03:07:27 AM
Not bogus, sex drive up, skin oily and bloated.....guess my tolerance reduces as I get older. I also tend to come off for 4 to 6 months a year, hence really feel the difference as opposed to when I used to cruise.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: _aj_ on April 29, 2014, 03:09:13 AM
It's all I know.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: dyslexic on April 29, 2014, 03:19:21 AM
Not bogus, sex drive up, skin oily and bloated.....guess my tolerance reduces as I get older. I also tend to come off for 4 to 6 months a year, hence really feel the difference as opposed to when I used to cruise.


I just can't imagine NOT having Test.


You can run anything under the sun, but to dislike the basic necessity for all steroid cycles just seems strange to me.


I'm not sure how to equate the logic behind your statement about your sex drive being "up" but your tolerance being reduced.


Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: Skorp1o on April 29, 2014, 03:23:21 AM

I just can't imagine NOT having Test.


You can run anything under the sun, but to dislike the basic necessity for all steroid cycles just seems strange to me.


I'm not sure how to equate the logic behind your statement about your sex drive being "up" but your tolerance being reduced.

Anything above 250mg a week and Im border line a sex addict, every day out meeting up someone, staying at theirs and going to work from there next day, or vise versa...hardly time for myself. Just work, womanise and a small hours weights in between here and there...I don't even know what's going on in the world, that Malaysian airline took me 3 days to find out about.

Bloat and lethargy i there too.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: whitewidow on April 29, 2014, 03:34:16 AM
You might want tp switch up compounds roll with some Trenbolone and EQ and just One shot of Test E vevery 10 days and you will look great if your diet and training is on track.inject 1ml of Tren every other day, use 1ml of EQ twice a week. and just the one shot of Test enanthate or Test cypionate one compound or the other. so myour cycle will look like this

Mon- 1-ml-250mg of Test cypionate or Test enanthate wich ever Test ester you Prefer

Tues- 1-ml of Trenbolone Acetate 100mg

Wednesday- 1-ml of EQ (try to find EQ that contains 300mg per 1ml) use 1 ml.

Thursday-1-ml of Tren Acetate-100mg.

Friday- 1-ml EQ - 300mg.

Sat- 1-ML- Tren acetate -100mg

FRI-OFF- No Injects

so all in all you will be i njecting 250mg of Test cypionate of Testosterone Enanthate-250mg per week. just choose wich ever ester you prefer so your only going to do 1 shot of Testosterone cypionate or Testo0sterone Enanthate a week , Then your going to inject 300 mg of Trenbolone acetate per week as well as 600 mg of Equipose(EQ). so this is your lay-out. this cycle is gpoing to be more androgenic instead of anabolic. it is still a very anabolic cycle but with the addition of Tren and Eq you should get leaner and get better strength gains. here is the exact lay-out.if you get any on cycle estrogen buy some arimidex to have on hand and just use 1mg every week. very cheap to buy.

600mg of EQ(Equipose a week)
300MG of Trenbolone Acetate a week)
250mg of Testosterone cypionate or Enanthate a week)
1mg of arimidex a week only if your having nipple sensitivity.



If you want to really jumpstart this cycle throw in 100mg of anadrol a day or 50mg of halotestin a day.


Ypu can do great stacks without having to incorporate Testosterone in your cycle. You do however want to use at least 1 ml of some kind of Test ester per week.The less Test you use the harder more lean of a physique you will build if you follow a similar cycle to what I posted
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: Skorp1o on April 29, 2014, 04:03:40 AM

Mon- 1-ml-250mg of Test cypionate or Test enanthate wich ever Test ester you Prefer

Tues- 1-ml of Trenbolone Acetate 100mg

Wednesday- 1-ml of EQ (try to find EQ that contains 300mg per 1ml) use 1 ml.

Thursday-1-ml of Tren Acetate-100mg.

Friday- 1-ml EQ - 300mg.

Sat- 1-ML- Tren acetate -100mg

FRI-OFF- No Injects
Thansk for the above ^ much appreciated.

Would it be ok to combine the 1ml tren and 1ml EQ into one shot to reduce frequency?
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: _aj_ on April 29, 2014, 04:06:23 AM
You might want tp switch up compounds roll with some Trenbolone and EQ and just One shot of Test E vevery 10 days and you will look great if your diet and training is on track.inject 1ml of Tren every other day, use 1ml of EQ twice a week. and just the one shot of Test enanthate or Test cypionate one compound or the other. so myour cycle will look like this

Mon- 1-ml-250mg of Test cypionate or Test enanthate wich ever Test ester you Prefer

Tues- 1-ml of Trenbolone Acetate 100mg

Wednesday- 1-ml of EQ (try to find EQ that contains 300mg per 1ml) use 1 ml.

Thursday-1-ml of Tren Acetate-100mg.

Friday- 1-ml EQ - 300mg.

Sat- 1-ML- Tren acetate -100mg

FRI-OFF- No Injects

so all in all you will be i njecting 250mg of Test cypionate of Testosterone Enanthate-250mg per week. just choose wich ever ester you prefer so your only going to do 1 shot of Testosterone cypionate or Testo0sterone Enanthate a week , Then your going to inject 300 mg of Trenbolone acetate per week as well as 600 mg of Equipose(EQ). so this is your lay-out. this cycle is gpoing to be more androgenic instead of anabolic. it is still a very anabolic cycle but with the addition of Tren and Eq you should get leaner and get better strength gains. here is the exact lay-out.if you get any on cycle estrogen buy some arimidex to have on hand and just use 1mg every week. very cheap to buy.

600mg of EQ(Equipose a week)
300MG of Trenbolone Acetate a week)
250mg of Testosterone cypionate or Enanthate a week)
1mg of arimidex a week only if your having nipple sensitivity.



If you want to really jumpstart this cycle throw in 100mg of anadrol a day or 50mg of halotestin a day.


Ypu can do great stacks without having to incorporate Testosterone in your cycle. You do however want to use at least 1 ml of some kind of Test ester per week.The less Test you use the harder more lean of a physique you will build if you follow a similar cycle to what I posted


I can barely stand to pin once a week!
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: whitewidow on April 29, 2014, 04:17:57 AM
Thansk for the above ^ much appreciated.

Would it be ok to combine the 1ml tren and 1ml EQ into one shot to reduce frequency?

You def could. most everybody does that. I don't personally do it but it is def ok to do that especially if you decide to use EQ. EQ tends to make shots less painfull. alot of people will mix there Test propionate with EQ to make it less painfull. I have done so many injections it dosn;t bother me but you can def do what you mentioned and it would work fine.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on April 29, 2014, 04:32:59 AM
Skorpio, have you ever tried a no-test cycle?  That's all the guys in the 70s did, and you know how great they looked.

Don't believe all the hype about "deca dick", "test is best", etc.... Arnold, Vic Richards, Dennis Newman, Sergio Olivia--none of these guys liked test.  Hell, I'm pretty sure Groink runs no-test cycles too....Disgusted, who is a very knowledgeable trainer/coach doesn't care much for test either.

Just drop the test out...run tren + some oral.  I guarantee you'll look terrific.  And if you end up feeling lethargic or crappy, you can just shoot some test and feel better 6 hours later.

Seriously, give it a try..... What do you have to lose?
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: Skorp1o on April 29, 2014, 04:37:24 AM
Skorpio, have you ever tried a no-test cycle?  That's all the guys in the 70s did, and you know how great they looked.

Don't believe all the hype about "deca dick", "test is best", etc.... Arnold, Vic Richards, Dennis Newman, Sergio Olivia--none of these guys liked test.  Hell, I'm pretty sure Groink runs no-test cycles too....Disgusted, who is a very knowledgeable trainer/coach doesn't care much for test either.

Just drop the test out...run tren + some oral.  I guarantee you'll look terrific.  And if you end up feeling lethargic or crappy, you can just shoot some test and feel better 6 hours later.

Seriously, give it a try..... What do you have to lose?

I think that's an option to be considered, I even don't find test that much of a mass builder for me, when I put solid mass its via orals and anabolics.

I'll keep propionate at home incase I needed to and just run non test cycle all the way, never tried it but its time to think outside the box.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: bigmc on April 29, 2014, 04:40:39 AM
I think that's an option to be considered, I even don't find test that much of a mass builder for me, when I put solid mass its via orals and anabolics.

I'll keep propionate at home incase I needed to and just run non test cycle all the way, never tried it but its time to think outside the box.

try running tbol on its own for 6 weeks at 50mg a day

or anavar if you can get legit

Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: Skorp1o on April 29, 2014, 04:46:50 AM
try running tbol on its own for 6 weeks at 50mg a day

or anavar if you can get legit



Would tbol be a good choice while cutting? My favourite is Winny but had some severe joint issues early this year can't risk it right now.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: bigmc on April 29, 2014, 04:50:56 AM
Would tbol be a good choice while cutting? My favourite is Winny but had some severe joint issues early this year can't risk it right now.

tbol is the best oral imo

it keeps you nice and full like dbol but without the bloat

gave me bad acid reflux though
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: deceiver on April 29, 2014, 05:09:03 AM
Sorry that you wasted your money on bogus shit from a dirty source...


Test rocks. Throw in some E.Q and call it good. Fuck all.

Sides he has mentioned are typical sides from test and it has nothing to do with quality of product. The only thing that "bogus" source could be a reason of is lack of sides (caused by lack of compound) or infection
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: snx on April 29, 2014, 05:23:46 AM
I would get exhausted pinning more than 1x/week. I usually just go off whenever I feel like I can't look at another pin.

And I agree with Skorpio - the lust that test creates is emotionally draining. 250mg/week and I'm nagging the wife. 500mg and it's all she hears about.

It gets exhausting...rather just look good and not have a crazy sex drive. I've already been 15 years old...don't need to go back.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: wolfrittner on April 29, 2014, 05:27:32 AM
Dropped it to one shot every two weeks, dead on TRT dose, I just don't like the way it makes me look and feel.

Once I run out of enanthate, I'll be taking: 50mg Test Prop+100mg Tren Ace. Monday and same again Thursday, two hits a week.

I'm only cutting and don't need size as I don't compete, just after muscle hardness to be maintained with caloric deficit.

But I serioulsy don't undertsand all the hype about test, I hate with it a passion and its my least favourite compound now since I started back on this time around. Face bloat, oily skin, all I think about is tits...etc. Was hardly at home last two weeks, I just can't say no to a date or a sexual encounter and it gets tiring...a road I tried to tame a long while ago.
have you mixed it with Masteron! it works pretty good together!
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: Skorp1o on April 29, 2014, 06:29:31 AM
have you mixed it with Masteron! it works pretty good together!

Big fan of masteron and have used it with test and got into my ideal shape last year. But the test is boethring me these days...like snx said, its not that fun feeling like you're 15 when you're 35 lol
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on April 29, 2014, 06:36:31 AM
I don't understand this thread...

What I'm reading is "test is turning me into a rock star and my life is awesome."

Confusing.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: Skorp1o on April 29, 2014, 06:41:55 AM
I don't understand this thread...

What I'm reading is "test is turning me into a rock star and my life is awesome."

Confusing.

More like, test is making me wake up next to women I don't really need to or wana be around as Ive seen that road many a times.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: _aj_ on April 29, 2014, 06:43:14 AM
More like, test is making me wake up next to women I don't really need to or wana be around as Ive seen that road many a times.

It ain't the test, broseph. You need to tell your cawk who is the boss around there.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on April 29, 2014, 06:43:36 AM
More like, test is making me wake up next to women I don't really need to or wana be around as Ive seen that road many a times.

Do you know what Anabolichalo would do to switch lives with you, you spoiled bastard
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on April 29, 2014, 06:43:43 AM
I think that's an option to be considered, I even don't find test that much of a mass builder for me, when I put solid mass its via orals and anabolics.

I'll keep propionate at home incase I needed to and just run non test cycle all the way, never tried it but its time to think outside the box.

I think you'll be happy with the results
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: bigmc on April 29, 2014, 06:51:09 AM
More like, test is making me wake up next to women I don't really need to or wana be around as Ive seen that road many a times.

steroids turn fours into eights

I remember literally wanting to fuck birds that were rough as fuck on test

its quite the distraction
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: deceiver on April 29, 2014, 06:55:45 AM
steroids turn fours into eights

I remember literally wanting to fuck birds that were rough as fuck on test

its quite the distraction

Why did you go off then?
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: Skorp1o on April 29, 2014, 06:56:57 AM
steroids turn fours into eights

I remember literally wanting to fuck birds that were rough as fuck on test

its quite the distraction

Exactly, when I'm off I would date a really nice girl for a while then slowly move on to the next....when on, I rekindle old numbers of girls I didn't have the time for...6's...etc and pretty much block out my whole week.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: Skorp1o on April 29, 2014, 07:07:28 AM
steroids turn fours into eights

I remember literally wanting to fuck birds that were rough as fuck on test

its quite the distraction

lmao classic

^ true getbigger inside and out
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: LittleJ on April 29, 2014, 07:11:53 AM
Take loads of tren and deca.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: Skorp1o on April 29, 2014, 07:15:29 AM
Take loads of tren and deca.

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Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: wolfrittner on April 29, 2014, 08:10:51 AM
tbol is the best oral imo

it keeps you nice and full like dbol but without the bloat

gave me bad acid reflux though
I just got some! 50mg a day is the dose? Nothing else? I don't have anavar! But masteron or winstrol
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: the trainer on April 29, 2014, 08:15:57 AM
Not have test in your cycle sounds scary, having my sex drive drop and the possibility of erection problems is not a good idea when you hook up with that special girl.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: BigRo on April 29, 2014, 08:30:11 AM
I have sex 3-4 times a week but only cum once or twice a week. I channel alot of energy in to my training and prep.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: Skorp1o on April 29, 2014, 08:35:01 AM
I have sex 3-4 times a week but only cum once or twice a week. I channel alot of energy in to my training and prep.

What the  ???

We need more explaining bigro
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: BigRo on April 29, 2014, 08:36:58 AM
its not that I dont want to cum each time or cant, I think of the next days workout and know I will be more animalistic and intense if not depleted.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: Army of One on April 29, 2014, 08:37:15 AM
Don't understand guys who see a raging sex drive as a good thing, i remember as a teen-early twenties, it was a nightmare, all thought about was one thing, a far more happy and balanced life is led when it calms down.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: monstermunch on April 29, 2014, 08:46:24 AM
its not that I dont want to cum each time or cant, I think of the next days workout and know I will be more animalistic and intense if not depleted.

How does he feel about not getting a creamy finish every time?
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on April 29, 2014, 08:47:40 AM
Don't understand guys who see a raging sex drive as a good thing, i remember as a teen-early twenties, it was a nightmare, all thought about was one thing, a far more happy and balanced life is led when it calms down.

hahaha, there are times when I see an average whore and she looks like a 10/10.  All I could think of is pounding her pussy into submission.  I get hyper sexually agressive on Tren and Test
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: BigRo on April 29, 2014, 08:47:59 AM
lol fuck you monstervag
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: monstermunch on April 29, 2014, 08:51:02 AM
lol fuck you monstervag

 ;D

I tried your no porn/wanking challenge...lasted about 4 days!
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: bigmc on April 29, 2014, 08:52:16 AM
I just got some! 50mg a day is the dose? Nothing else? I don't have anavar! But masteron or winstrol

whats your stats previous use etc
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: anab0lic on April 29, 2014, 08:52:22 AM
Test for me = shit muscle builder, but great feel good drug... I'd prob carry on taking test even if i quit bodybuilding altogether.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on April 29, 2014, 09:12:02 AM
When Tiger Woods was using Test in his arsenal, he was banging multiple whores and winning tournaments...When he dropped the test, he was curled up in his mommies arms wiping tears away, fighting injuries and not able to win a major tournament...
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: _aj_ on April 29, 2014, 09:13:31 AM
;D

I tried your no porn/wanking challenge...lasted about 4 days!

A day longer than I did.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: bigmc on April 29, 2014, 09:15:53 AM
its not that I dont want to cum each time or cant, I think of the next days workout and know I will be more animalistic and intense if not depleted.

have you considered having Ronnie coleman videos on in the back ground
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 29, 2014, 09:24:22 AM

I just can't imagine NOT having Test.


You can run anything under the sun, but to dislike the basic necessity for all steroid cycles just seems strange to me.


I'm not sure how to equate the logic behind your statement about your sex drive being "up" but your tolerance being reduced.




Back in the day we ran very little test if any at all. Felt better and looked a 100x better.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: BigRo on April 29, 2014, 10:53:52 AM
have you considered having Ronnie coleman videos on in the back ground

no but its a good idea lol
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: Icelord on April 29, 2014, 10:56:17 AM
no but its a good idea lol
Post more shots of your glute & ham tie-ins, we've admired your upper body for long enough.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: mazrim on April 29, 2014, 11:23:41 AM
I think I've only ran about a week of test (prop) in the last year and a half. Otherwise none.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on April 29, 2014, 12:05:44 PM
I think I've only ran about a week of test (prop) in the last year and a half. Otherwise none.

From what I can recall, this guy has the best physique on the site.....not the biggest, but the best
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: anabolichalo on April 29, 2014, 12:26:18 PM
i'm on 750 test and got not much sex drive at all

i think it's genetic
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: no one on April 29, 2014, 12:33:26 PM
Dropped it to one shot every two weeks, dead on TRT dose, I just don't like the way it makes me look and feel.

Once I run out of enanthate, I'll be taking: 50mg Test Prop+100mg Tren Ace. Monday and same again Thursday, two hits a week.

I'm only cutting and don't need size as I don't compete, just after muscle hardness to be maintained with caloric deficit.

But I serioulsy don't undertsand all the hype about test, I hate with it a passion and its my least favourite compound now since I started back on this time around. Face bloat, oily skin, all I think about is tits...etc. Was hardly at home last two weeks, I just can't say no to a date or a sexual encounter and it gets tiring...a road I tried to tame a long while ago.

are you buying your test from ESFullofshit?

:D

i agree w you bro. test is def not best. mg for mg you get more bang for your buck from other esters more suited to your means.

imo even 300mg of test a week is enough for anyone. round out the rest w compounds that actually improve the way you look.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: bradistani on April 29, 2014, 12:35:57 PM
i'm on 750 test and got not much sex drive at all

i think it's genetic

 :D
 ;D
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: no one on April 29, 2014, 12:36:44 PM
lol fuck you monstervag

hahah bigro throwing down the names as of late
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: Skorp1o on April 29, 2014, 12:38:33 PM
are you buying your test from ESFullofshit?

:D

i agree w you bro. test is def not best. mg for mg you get more bang for your buck from other esters more suited to your means.

imo even 300mg of test a week is enough for anyone. round out the rest w compounds that actually improve the way you look.

No I only buy guitar strings from Esfitness.

On the other hand I'm almost convinced test gives me a shit look as opposed to other compounds...I normally drown it with winny and mast, but I think virtually eliminating it might be best.

I find it alters me psychologically a lot, I become a 18 yr old version of me again. Which is a burden at times
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: anabolichalo on April 29, 2014, 12:38:49 PM
:D
 ;D
wut?
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: no one on April 29, 2014, 12:46:34 PM
No I only buy guitar strings from Esfitness.

On the other hand I'm almost convinced test gives me a shit look as opposed to other compounds...I normally drown it with winny and mast, but I think virtually eliminating it might be best.

I find it alters me psychologically a lot, I become a 18 yr old version of me again. Which is a burden at times

i find the teat bloat only lasts for 2 days post shot. prop is less time affected- i find by 12 to 24 hours- but also gives me that facial water somewhat. i notice facially greatly. so, i try to not take a shot if i have something i want me face to be lean for. im sure we are the only people who really notice it anyway.

nothing will make you drier than winny/mast w/o using an anti-e. great summer combo if you can handle the dry joints.

let me know how you make out w the zero test. i have always wanted to try it but lack the balls.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: Skorp1o on April 29, 2014, 12:53:32 PM
Will be on masteron and tbol and just run my tren acetate til it's finished I have abt 5ml left

Looking at 300mg mast prop
60mg tbol

I'll keep my two shots of test in the house incase i need it.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: no one on April 29, 2014, 12:56:45 PM
Will be on masteron and tbol and just run my tren acetate til it's finished I have abt 5ml left

Looking at 300mg mast prop
60mg tbol

I'll keep my two shots of test in the house incase i need it.

this week i started my summertime blend of 150mg enanthate/ 100mg masteron enanthate/ 100 tren enanthate (350mg/ml) at .5ml 2x a week, and 1ml of summit winstrol eod.

this should dry me out like the desert for this summer.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: Skorp1o on April 29, 2014, 01:08:07 PM
this week i started my summertime blend of 150mg enanthate/ 100mg masteron enanthate/ 100 tren enanthate (350mg/ml) at .5ml 2x a week, and 1ml of summit winstrol eod.

this should dry me out like the desert for this summer.

Very nice combo, make sure you keep us updated once you peak.

I have 4 weeks to go til my holiday in Abu Dhabi, lighter than normal weight wise but just looking to really tighten up mid section for the next few weeks.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: no one on April 29, 2014, 01:10:18 PM
Very nice combo, make sure you keep us updated once you peak.

I have 4 weeks to go til my holiday in Abu Dhabi, lighter than normal weight wise but just looking to really tighten up mid section for the next few weeks.

should peak in 4 weeks given past experiences.

ya im not so much about the weight anymore. just want to be dry and shredded.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: ESFitness on April 29, 2014, 01:21:14 PM
are you buying your test from ESFullofshit?

:D

i agree w you bro. test is def not best. mg for mg you get more bang for your buck from other esters more suited to your means.

imo even 300mg of test a week is enough for anyone. round out the rest w compounds that actually improve the way you look.

once again, you little bitch, feel free to find me anybody on here who's #1 bought from me and #2 complains the product is underdosed.

did you go to private school? homeschool? the internet is the only safe place you have to run your mouth like a bitch?
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: no one on April 29, 2014, 01:56:10 PM
once again, you little bitch, feel free to find me anybody on here who's #1 bought from me and #2 complains the product is underdosed.

did you go to private school? homeschool? the internet is the only safe place you have to run your mouth like a bitch?


lol calm down nancy.

I'm sure your far too busy w your billboard, print ads and other modelling work to engage in such witless banter w a 'bitch who runs his mouth on the Internet', ESFairy.


Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: Lustral on April 29, 2014, 02:05:53 PM
I haven't run anything other than low (to moderate) dose test since 2009, maybe earlier. No aspirations to compete. Love the intensity, aggression and sex drive test gives. Fucked gf 4 times on Sunday cos she was wearing a low cut top and jerked off twice just to be safe.

If I walk in on her getting ready for the gym and nipples are on show you can bet a sexual assault is imminent. Find myself always wandering into the cardio area to check out the vag or staring at girls. I was tempted to sniff the leg press after some 10/10 finished on it tonight.

I can switch it on and off though. Put a book or some work in front of me and I may as well be a eunuch.

Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: Icelord on April 29, 2014, 02:11:02 PM
I haven't run anything other than low (to moderate) dose test since 2009, maybe earlier. No aspirations to compete. Love the intensity, aggression and sex drive test gives. Fucked gf 4 times on Sunday cos she was wearing a low cut top and jerked off twice just to be safe.

Is it weird that I have the same level sex drive and I haven't used anything since 2007? I'm starting to wonder if test really affects libido as much as people say it does.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: BigRo on April 29, 2014, 02:32:18 PM
6 ejaculations in one day bet you felt like squatting hard after that lol
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: ESFitness on April 29, 2014, 02:34:18 PM
6 ejaculations in one day bet you felt like squatting hard after that lol

or taking a long nap...
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: mazrim on April 29, 2014, 02:48:36 PM
i find the teat bloat only lasts for 2 days post shot. prop is less time affected- i find by 12 to 24 hours- but also gives me that facial water somewhat. i notice facially greatly. so, i try to not take a shot if i have something i want me face to be lean for. im sure we are the only people who really notice it anyway.

nothing will make you drier than winny/mast w/o using an anti-e. great summer combo if you can handle the dry joints.
That's why I only ran it that one week. Instant bloat face with me. I genetically have a rounder face as it is so that on top is not a good sight.

Are you saying on second quote that nothing will get you dryer then winny/mast except an ai or that not to use one with that combo? Or that an ai with that combo will actually make you look worse?
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: Lustral on April 29, 2014, 02:56:35 PM
6 ejaculations in one day bet you felt like squatting hard after that lol

I do it the odd time before I train if I walk in on her and nipples are exposed. Get tired for all of 20 minutes but then pick up. I have trouble sleeping so used to just picking myself up and pushing on.

6 times (and more) is a day off thing normally, though as it was Sunday and no work or kids I hit gym - chest, tris and medial delts.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: no one on April 29, 2014, 03:30:45 PM
That's why I only ran it that one week. Instant bloat face with me. I genetically have a rounder face as it is so that on top is not a good sight.

Are you saying on second quote that nothing will get you dryer then winny/mast except an ai or that not to use one with that combo? Or that an ai with that combo will actually make you look worse?

I'm saying that that combo is as close as you'll come to drying out using anabolics without using an anti estrogen.

I don't like anti-e's personally. I train everything every 48 hours and find it def impairs my ability to recover.

using an anti e w that combo would make you drier yet.

all this is providing your carb and sodium intake isn't such that they impair the effects of the compounds.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: Disgusted on April 29, 2014, 04:32:17 PM
If you like test then take it, I never did. If you think it's needed to get freaky big that's certainly not the case. As far as sex drive goes never had or have a problem.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: Lustral on April 29, 2014, 04:36:43 PM
First few cutting cyles I used to cut test completely, felt like shit running just winnie etc. Masteron kind of compensates but adding even 250mg/wk test sorted things out. Not competing so didn't need to worry about water.

After reading this thread tempted to add in other compounds again.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: Icelord on April 29, 2014, 04:41:56 PM
What's the reason for using test in the first place? As opposed to just running other androgens like Anadrol or Deca, or even Tren.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: Uncle Junior on April 29, 2014, 05:10:25 PM
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Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: no one on April 29, 2014, 05:40:44 PM
Do you have any issues with hair loss running winny or mast?


oddly the only hair issues I've ever had was running NPP.

I keep a close eye on my shedding. everytime I use NPP i shed. too bad cause I loved the stuff.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: dyslexic on April 29, 2014, 08:48:17 PM
EQ 400 ~ hard as fuck.. if your bodyfat levels are low and you have some muscle maturity, thin skin and no water between the skin and muscle.

very amazing shiz


Still gotta have my T~ even if it's once every 10 days.


Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: Mawse on April 29, 2014, 10:49:49 PM
200 test

100 npp

100 mast enth


Any more test just gives me potato head :-X
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: A Righteous Sort on April 30, 2014, 01:33:19 AM
Love test.

Sure it ages you and you look oily and like shit...

But the confidence and well being that you also get from it makes you not give a damn!

Fuck my hair folicles.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: Dr.J on April 30, 2014, 02:32:56 AM
Hate is a strong word.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: Simple Simon on April 30, 2014, 02:44:03 AM
Love test.

Sure it ages you and you look oily and like shit...

But the confidence and well being that you also get from it makes you not give a damn!

Fuck my hair folicles.

Not going the natty route this time around then wolfox?
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: f450 on April 30, 2014, 04:59:36 AM
I think I've only ran about a week of test (prop) in the last year and a half. Otherwise none.

Maz. Where the hell have you been? U should throw up some pics and motivate these fat assed getbiggers to get started on that summer diet.

for those who dont know , this man right here may have single handedly started the tren revolution that is running rampant right now with gear noobs. Gh15 rode his coattails for a good minute pushing that tren is god angle. Damn them were some impressive pics for a non competitor, made me want to pick up long distance running or some shit like that :)
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: bigmc on April 30, 2014, 10:22:47 AM
If you like test then take it, I never did. If you think it's needed to get freaky big that's certainly not the case. As far as sex drive goes never had or have a problem.

what would you recommend for test free cycles

cheers
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: wolfrittner on April 30, 2014, 10:28:31 AM
this week i started my summertime blend of 150mg enanthate/ 100mg masteron enanthate/ 100 tren enanthate (350mg/ml) at .5ml 2x a week, and 1ml of summit winstrol eod.

this should dry me out like the desert for this summer.
[/quote Great Combo!  little under the sweetspot but you will make up for it with training and diet!!
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: wolfrittner on April 30, 2014, 10:44:26 AM
whats your stats previous use etc
Never used Dbol. but I used 25o test e with tren ace 150mg, and masteron 100mg eod!For 12 week
The last2 months I have been on 250 test e only! My weight is 107 kilo right now! I have no idea how much Bf but I would guess 12 maybe! I feel pretty comfortable actually! I would like to try something different and I have Dbol Mast. and winstrol on hand!
but im alittle worried about the Dbol .I ve heard you can put on a lot of water? What you think?and how much? Can I use dbol alone like you said and liver ?Thanks Mac!
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: Simple Simon on April 30, 2014, 10:46:21 AM
or taking a long nap...

Or in e-kuls case high fiveing your friends.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: CalvinH on April 30, 2014, 10:47:09 AM
400 test
400 tren
400 eq



....have a nice summer...
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: Simple Simon on April 30, 2014, 10:49:06 AM
Never used Dbol. but I used 25o test e with tren ace 150mg, and masteron 100mg eod!For 12 week
The last2 months I have been on 250 test e only! My weight is 107 kilo right now! I have no idea how much Bf but I would guess 12 maybe! I feel pretty comfortable actually! I would like to try something different and I have Dbol Mast. and winstrol on hand!
but im alittle worried about the Dbol .I ve heard you can put on a lot of water? What you think?and how much? Can I use dbol alone like you said and liver ?Thanks Mac!

pics or it didnt happen.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: wolfrittner on April 30, 2014, 10:54:31 AM
pics or it didnt happen.
hahahahah! Never!! Im fat!! ii learned my lesson. I wouldn't survive the punishment!! Unless I look like you or No one = no pict.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: Icelord on April 30, 2014, 10:55:42 AM
hahahahah! Never!! Im fat!! ii learned my lesson. I wouldn't survive the punishment!! Unless I look like you or No one = no pict.
No One status is setting the bar high though. I wouldn't even try to compare myself to him, big ro, etc.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: _aj_ on April 30, 2014, 10:56:50 AM
hahahahah! Never!! Im fat!! ii learned my lesson. I wouldn't survive the punishment!! Unless I look like you or No one = no pict.

Shit, if can do it, anybody can...
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: Icelord on April 30, 2014, 10:57:49 AM
Shit, if can do it, anybody can...
You're in good shape for your age, though. Don't sell yourself short. Some pics you look like navy_mike and he's 25 and running a pretty serious cycle.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: _aj_ on April 30, 2014, 11:00:55 AM
You're in good shape for your age, though. Don't sell yourself short. Some pics you look like navy_mike and he's 25 and running a pretty serious cycle.

I have tall man syndrome, where no matter how big I get, at 6'3" I still look skinny.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: bigmc on April 30, 2014, 11:02:20 AM
Never used Dbol. but I used 25o test e with tren ace 150mg, and masteron 100mg eod!For 12 week
The last2 months I have been on 250 test e only! My weight is 107 kilo right now! I have no idea how much Bf but I would guess 12 maybe! I feel pretty comfortable actually! I would like to try something different and I have Dbol Mast. and winstrol on hand!
but im alittle worried about the Dbol .I ve heard you can put on a lot of water? What you think?and how much? Can I use dbol alone like you said and liver ?Thanks Mac!


if you are self assessing your fat at 12 you will be around 15

I wouldn't take dbol unless very lean you will look like a moon faced buffalo

masteron is a drug for really lean people too

add in anavar or tbol if you want an oral

or some eq maybe

Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: Icelord on April 30, 2014, 11:02:38 AM
I also have tall man syndrome, where no matter how big I get, at 6'3" I still look skinny.
Yeah, that's just the genetic lottery.

Although the tall guys that are serious lifters at my gym (incidentally, the biggest gym in Canada), generally only have issues bringing up legs and calves. Their back and arm development can match a short guy's, and obviously is far more impressive because of the reach.

A tall guy with 16" arms and a 5'4" guy with the same couldn't be more different. The fucking size of their arms blows your mind just because of how long the insertions are.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: _aj_ on April 30, 2014, 11:07:56 AM
Yeah, that's just the genetic lottery.

Although the tall guys that are serious lifters at my gym (incidentally, the biggest gym in Canada), generally only have issues bringing up legs and calves. Their back and arm development can match a short guy's, and obviously is far more impressive because of the reach.

A tall guy with 16" arms and a 5'4" guy with the same couldn't be more different. The fucking size of their arms blows your mind just because of how long the insertions are.

God yes. My legs are complete shit. And my injury last year only made them worse  :-X
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: wolfrittner on April 30, 2014, 11:08:53 AM
Shit, if can do it, anybody can...
you guys are  pretty serious(good) lifters! (BBs) Ive been lifting for a while but I would have to be very delusional to even start talking Bodybuilding with you guys. I rather listen and learn for now! For that im very grateful!!  But I can see what a mistake of a picture can do, to a man on get big! Lol I don't think im ready for that yet!!
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: Icelord on April 30, 2014, 11:09:52 AM
you guys are  pretty serious(good) lifters! (BBs) Ive been lifting for a while but I would have to be very delusional to even start talking Bodybuilding with you guys. I rather listen and learn for now! For that im very grateful!!  But I can see what a mistake of a picture can do, to a man on get big! Lol I don't think im ready for that yet!!
lol
you're definitely not susanfitness. Totally different writing style. What's your first language?
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: wolfrittner on April 30, 2014, 11:12:51 AM
if you are self assessing your fat at 12 you will be around 15

I wouldn't take dbol unless very lean you will look like a moon faced buffalo

masteron is a drug for really lean people too

add in anavar or tbol if you want an oral

or some eq maybe


Ok, thanks mac! So, I should wait till im at 10 or lower for dbol! I rather wait longer then look like a ballon face! Cheers man!
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: wolfrittner on April 30, 2014, 11:13:43 AM
lol
you're definitely not susanfitness. Totally different writing style. What's your first language?
[/quote  Deutsch!!
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: wolfrittner on April 30, 2014, 11:16:07 AM
if you are self assessing your fat at 12 you will be around 15

I wouldn't take dbol unless very lean you will look like a moon faced buffalo

masteron is a drug for really lean people too

add in anavar or tbol if you want an oral

or some eq maybe


hell I forgot,what is tbol?
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: Icelord on April 30, 2014, 11:19:41 AM
hell I forgot,what is tbol?
dianabol. An oral steroid. But it probably shouldn't be run without an anti-e. It aromatizes easily into estrogen.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: wolfrittner on April 30, 2014, 11:20:50 AM
I have tall man syndrome, where no matter how big I get, at 6'3" I still look skinny.
That's not a bad syndrome! I could think of a few way worse!
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: _aj_ on April 30, 2014, 11:21:42 AM
That's not a bad syndrome! I could think of a few way worse!

Yes, it is light-years better than small-man syndrome.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: wolfrittner on April 30, 2014, 11:25:09 AM
Yes, it is light-years better than small-man syndrome.
Hahahahha! Its the exact opposite!! But you have some pretty good size on you! Ho much do you weigh if you don't mind saying?
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: wolfrittner on April 30, 2014, 11:27:04 AM
dianabol. An oral steroid. But it probably shouldn't be run without an anti-e. It aromatizes easily into estrogen.
Thank you Icelord!
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: no one on April 30, 2014, 11:27:44 AM
hell I forgot,what is tbol?

dianabol. An oral steroid. But it probably shouldn't be run without an anti-e. It aromatizes easily into estrogen.

tbol isnt dianabol.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: Icelord on April 30, 2014, 11:28:11 AM
tbol isnt dianabol.
I know. But he didn't mention tbol in his post. So when the guy quoted him and asked what tbol was, I assumed he meant dbol.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: _aj_ on April 30, 2014, 11:28:24 AM
Hahahahha! Its the exact opposite!! But you have some pretty good size on you! Ho much do you weigh if you don't mind saying?

Just under 220. Probably closer to 215 in the morning.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: wolfrittner on April 30, 2014, 11:28:49 AM
tbol isnt dianabol.
That's what I thought. What is it please?
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: falco on April 30, 2014, 11:28:57 AM
Test is by far the best steroid for me. Even in small doses. I have a crappy to none response to other compounds and i mean legit pharma stuff.
The one i prefer is testex elmu prolongatum. Kicks in fast for a cypionate and you "feel" it. Same as sustenon. Testoviron depot i don't like it so much like those two.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: falco on April 30, 2014, 11:30:08 AM
But yes, gyno, oily skin, and sex drive is high.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: Icelord on April 30, 2014, 11:30:38 AM
That's what I thought. What is it please?
My bad.

http://thinksteroids.com/steroid-profiles/oral-turinabol/ (http://thinksteroids.com/steroid-profiles/oral-turinabol/)
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: wolfrittner on April 30, 2014, 11:31:05 AM
Just under 220. Probably closer to 215 in the morning.
That's perfect , I think! That's what I would like to be with bf under10%
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: wolfrittner on April 30, 2014, 11:34:21 AM
My bad.

http://thinksteroids.com/steroid-profiles/oral-turinabol/ (http://thinksteroids.com/steroid-profiles/oral-turinabol/)
Super! Ok got it! I didn't catch it myself. No one sees everything!! lol Thanks
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: visualizeperfection on May 02, 2014, 04:32:17 PM
Yo skorp.


Have ever ran a getbig TRT style dose (250mg) and double that in either deca or NPP?

ie 250 test and 500 npp?

anyone?
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on May 02, 2014, 09:22:08 PM
Yo skorp.


Have ever ran a getbig TRT style dose (250mg) and double that in either deca or NPP?

ie 250 test and 500 npp?

anyone?

Yeah it'll make you look good....if you can keep a tight diet, stick with deca.  Much better than npp imo, but far less forgiving
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: visualizeperfection on May 02, 2014, 09:41:11 PM
Yeah it'll make you look good....if you can keep a tight diet, stick with deca.  Much better than npp imo, but far less forgiving

whats better about it in your opinion?All I hear that NPP presents less bloat and if your dick stops working its out of your system quicker.

Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on May 02, 2014, 10:23:40 PM
whats better about it in your opinion?All I hear that NPP presents less bloat and if your dick stops working its out of your system quicker.



Npp will give you a certain "look" that only lasts while you're on it...deca, on the other hand, seems to build muscle that will stick around after you come off of it, provided you at least continue to cruise on test.

Others might disagree, but that's been my experience with it.  If you want to add muscle, use deca. If you want to add a different dimension to your look, use npp.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: Disgusted on May 02, 2014, 10:37:19 PM
what would you recommend for test free cycles

cheers

I actually do not recommend anything although personally I liked eq as a base.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: Skorp1o on May 02, 2014, 11:09:27 PM
Yo skorp.


Have ever ran a getbig TRT style dose (250mg) and double that in either deca or NPP?

ie 250 test and 500 npp?

anyone?

In the past 5 years I have only taken 250mg a week. 500 and my bp goes up and cardio is sluggish. Now even 250 a week gives me some face bloat and before I know it I'm oht almost every night on dates and pussy takes priority in my life.

Take this past Thursday, finished work at 6, by 7pm I was face fucking a slurpy Latvian....where I normally save thisfor the weekend and read a book and plan my life quietly on a weekday night.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: Skorp1o on May 02, 2014, 11:21:04 PM
400 test
400 tren
400 eq



....have a nice summer...

I wish, but that's just too high for me :-/ I could half the tren and take 400 eq with no test.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: visualizeperfection on May 02, 2014, 11:27:52 PM
In the past 5 years I have only taken 250mg a week. 500 and my bp goes up and cardio is sluggish. Now even 250 a week gives me some face bloat and before I know it I'm oht almost every night on dates and pussy takes priority in my life.

Take this past Thursday, finished work at 6, by 7pm I was face fucking a slurpy Latvian....where I normally save thisfor the weekend and read a book and plan my life quietly on a weekday night.
Skorps vice  Natural
(http://www.editorialindependence.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Man-Reading-Book.jpg)

Skorp vice on Test
(https://fuzzywuze.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/3dlycy4.jpg)
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: Skorp1o on May 02, 2014, 11:50:24 PM
Skorps vice  Natural
(http://www.editorialindependence.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Man-Reading-Book.jpg)

Skorp vice on Test
(https://fuzzywuze.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/3dlycy4.jpg)

Hahahahahaha brilliant illustration.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: NotMrAverage on May 03, 2014, 02:15:03 AM
I relied on t only for 4 years or so. Cyp is thé best one. Since my b f is low ås under 10 mostly it looked ok. But when i lowered cyp from 1000 to 500, added in 800mg eq and 50mg win strola tings went to another level. No w i will ne ver go high t again. 300mg t a Week and  100 tren aday for 12w. Cruise ön test for 8 and start over. Bp under Control ås well with beta blo ckers.
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: whitewidow on May 03, 2014, 06:54:57 AM
I have sex 3-4 times a week but only cum once or twice a week. I channel alot of energy in to my training and prep.

Damn! BigRo you don't get Blue Balls? I got Blue Balls once when I was 14 years old and it was the worst feeling in the world. I had no condom and we couldn;t fuck so I just fucked around with this hot prepppy girl for a few hours and I could barely walk! It felt like I got kicked in the nutts very hard and it wouldn't go away! I also felt like threowing up it was so painfull. I just remember my friend hjaving to wait for me while I limped along home! It was horrible! I don't see how you could pull this off without getting Blueballs! Blueballs is definatley no joke! it is very serious and can cripple a man for hours! I think that is some of the worst pain I had been in.

 I didn;t think the chick wanted to fuck because we had only met once and didn;t even really say two words to each other but a friend of mine told me she wanted to make out with me so I went back up to the house she was watching(her neighbors were out of town and trusted her watching their house) and holy shit I wish I brought a rubber. I was only 14 years old and only had sex with one other girl amnd not many girls fuck at that age so I didn"t think I would be needing the condom but man I was wrong and payed dearly. she had never sucked dick either so she didn't give blowjobs! Man that was a very fucked up painfull night.

 I can still remember the pain! very awful! Always bring a condom or if she won;t fuck you or give you head just jerk one off no need getting blue balls one of the worst experoience nof my life
Title: Re: I Hate Test...
Post by: D.O.U.P on May 03, 2014, 08:22:17 AM
Test is def a mind/mood boost at low dosages (100 mgs per week)

If you're a fatty-boom-batty, test is a BAD IDEA at ANY dose. I know this because I made that mistake. 10 to 12% Is a good staring point. Diet. Diet. DIET. That's what ALL this shit should be based on if you are over 35.

Low carbs, a bit of test and some anavar, plus exercising like a wild savage has given me results.