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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Sam on May 11, 2014, 04:46:34 PM
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Looks like he is seriously downsizing...
(https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/t1.0-9/1506837_10154055153510276_5418336345817094568_n.jpg)
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Smart guy do you know how much abuse his organs have taken over the years time to give them a rest.
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Maybe he can't afford the PED any more with his reduced winnings.
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Top chef strango is pushing bunk product these days ;D
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State of that guy's chin hair. I can't look at Cutler without seeing the rat's tail on that guy's chin.
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Looks like he is seriously downsizing...
(https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/t1.0-9/1506837_10154055153510276_5418336345817094568_n.jpg)
jay really needs to grow a beard like that chaps
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jay really needs to grow a beard like that chaps
What's up with this beard shit? They look horrible and women hate the feel when kissing.
Read any interactive sports website (like live text on bbc) and you get all these homo comments on "nice beard"... are people retarded? Beards are for gays and hillbillies.
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Jay cutler looking hot with a beard.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1239370_10153144550380276_1347838724_n.jpg)
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Still injects oil in his biceps once a week, though. Good protocol to look big in a shirt.
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What's up with this beard shit? They look horrible and women hate the feel when kissing.
Read any interactive sports website (like live text on bbc) and you get all these homo comments on "nice beard"... are people retarded? Beards are for gays and hillbillies.
It's not really a beard. It's manicured stubble with a bit of definition to resemble the outline of a beard.
He's losing his hair and size. Has to compensate somehow and switch up his look a bit. It's just a very unoriginal one. If you're going to grow a beard, then grow one. That look he's wearing is in every corporate office and Iphone store at the mall.
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Good for him.
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It's not really a beard. It's manicured stubble with a bit of definition to resemble the outline of a beard.
He's losing his hair and size. Has to compensate somehow and switch up his look a bit. It's just a very unoriginal one. If you're going to grow a beard, then grow one. That look he's wearing is in every corporate office and Iphone store at the mall.
Beards look shit. They're for communists.
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Beards look shit. They're for communists.
Do you see me disagreeing?
(http://www.serwer1374994.home.pl/upload/images/youve_already_seen_how_jay_cutler_is_2014-02-02_10-34-40.jpg)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-HsHeGU0T6MM/UDvY_uW7obI/AAAAAAAABn4/NS8doMFz2qo/s320/K_Cutler.jpg)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=349833.0;attach=384628;image)
That hair. My god, he has no taste at all.
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40 year old teenager of peace.
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No need to be 300lbs when you don't compete.
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Do you see me disagreeing?
(http://www.serwer1374994.home.pl/upload/images/youve_already_seen_how_jay_cutler_is_2014-02-02_10-34-40.jpg)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-HsHeGU0T6MM/UDvY_uW7obI/AAAAAAAABn4/NS8doMFz2qo/s320/K_Cutler.jpg)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=349833.0;attach=384628;image)
That hair. My god, he has no taste at all.
Wish I was that pillow
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Wish I was that pillow
Wish I was the cushion where his feet are. :-*
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Wish I was that pillow
233-Thread of peace
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He probably claims a solid 285lbs there
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Why would he still need to be massive? I'm mean, it's not like he's really carrying the whole "everyday look" right now anyhow.
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Looks like he is seriously downsizing...
(https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/t1.0-9/1506837_10154055153510276_5418336345817094568_n.jpg)
Epic 11" forearms
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Why would he still need to be massive? I'm mean, it's not like he's really carrying the whole "everyday look" right now anyhow.
Well if he wants to remain relevant on the bodybuilding scene, promote his junk merchandise and cheap plastic glasses, and his DVDs, it couldn't hurt to look the part.
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Do you see me disagreeing?
(http://www.serwer1374994.home.pl/upload/images/youve_already_seen_how_jay_cutler_is_2014-02-02_10-34-40.jpg)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-HsHeGU0T6MM/UDvY_uW7obI/AAAAAAAABn4/NS8doMFz2qo/s320/K_Cutler.jpg)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=349833.0;attach=384628;image)
That hair. My god, he has no taste at all.
He also has no personality either ;D
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He also has no personality either ;D
I've yet to meet a Pro who does, to be honest. They all resemble the bark on palm trees.
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LEE HANEY......LEE LABRADA....PORTER COTTRELL......ALI MALLA......SAMIR......MI KE CHRISTIAN.......ARNIE... ....MANY PROS WITH GREAT PERSONALITIES.
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LEE HANEY......LEE LABRADA....PORTER COTTRELL......ALI MALLA......SAMIR......MI KE CHRISTIAN.......ARNIE... ....MANY PROS WITH GREAT PERSONALITIES.
Rich Gaspari, Danny Padilla, Tom Platz, Sergio Oliva, Mike Quinn, Mike Matarazzo, Lee Priest, Franco Columbo.
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roids have aged jay quick. looks like shit when you compare him to his old self. needs to bring back the old cutler hair style. looks like a douche.
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Beards look shit. They're for communists.
kill yourself now.
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I've yet to meet a Pro who does, to be honest. They all resemble the bark on palm trees.
Saw Dexter Jackson in San Diego World Gym a few times... dude has ZERO personality and very little social skills.
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come back to us Jay!
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Looks like he is seriously downsizing...
(https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/t1.0-9/1506837_10154055153510276_5418336345817094568_n.jpg)
Can't stay on drugs forever. Probably adding a few years to his life too.
I'm getting really tired of these dumb ass finger pointing pics.
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roids have aged jay quick. looks like shit when you compare him to his old self. needs to bring back the old cutler hair style. looks like a douche.
What part of he's balding hasn't filtered through to some people. He can't go back to the Hitler Youth look because he has no hair left. It's why he cuts it short and gels it before combing it toward the middle. DHT catches up to everyone.
(http://i.imgur.com/clTHw.jpg)
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Looks like he is seriously downsizing...
(https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/t1.0-9/1506837_10154055153510276_5418336345817094568_n.jpg)
Pic doesn't reveal that much, but I'd guess he's about 220-225lbs. Only reason i say that is cause that other guy looks to be about 185-190lbs.
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What part of he's balding hasn't filtered through to some people. He can't go back to the Hitler Youth look because he has no hair left. It's why he cuts it short and gels it before combing it toward the middle. DHT catches up to everyone.
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STILL decent for 40...
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STILL decent for 40...
You're bigger than him in your forum pic.
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STILL decent for 40...
Yep. I'm wondering if he'll just start wearing hats for a few years...
or buzz it, claiming he just wanted a fresh start
or go for lots of plugs. I'm guessing hair plugs.
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You're bigger than him in your forum pic.
HAHAHA...
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Hair seems fine to me, altough thinner looking, happen... However, for the shrinking, he's not rewarded by his body anymore, he's battered and abused drugs and SEO for a big part of his life, let him slowly regain somewhat of an "healty" look again...
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Hair seems fine to me, altough thinner looking, happen... However, for the shrinking, he's not rewarded by his body anymore, he's battered and abused drugs and SEO for a big part of his life, let him slowly regain somewhat of an "healty" look again...
That's the point. If it 'looks' fine, the trick is working. We all do it, man. You spray or gel your hair and cover up the bald spot at the back. Take pictures from the front only. Where's the last time you saw the back of his head? Not everyone loses their hair through an obvious receding widow's peak. Jay seems to be of the generalized thinning variety. Look at any old pic of him and now, it's night and day.
(http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/Wf6Hybl4IaI/hqdefault.jpg)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=536004.0;attach=564528;image)
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That's the point. If it 'looks' fine, the trick is working. We all do it, man. You spray or gel your hair and cover up the bald spot at the back. Take pictures from the front only. Where's the last time you saw the back of his head? Not everyone loses their hair through an obvious receding widow's peak. Jay seems to be of the generalized thinning variety. Look at any old pic of him and now, it's night and day.
(http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/Wf6Hybl4IaI/hqdefault.jpg)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=536004.0;attach=564528;image)
he had quite the mane of hair..his forehead was also lower in nature 'pre growth'.i still think at 40 its still respectable amount as well his muscle size compared to 'us'normal lifting folk..
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kill yourself now.
Haha, they're OK for rugged types in Donegal or catching crabs in the Bering sea. Not OK on union leaders (Jack O'Connor) and fat politicians (James Reilly).
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=349833.0;attach=384628;image)
That hair. My god, he has no taste at all.
tintin revient
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What part of he's balding hasn't filtered through to some people. He can't go back to the Hitler Youth look because he has no hair left. It's why he cuts it short and gels it before combing it toward the middle. DHT catches up to everyone.
(http://i.imgur.com/clTHw.jpg)
This seems unlikely to me. I've never seen anyone's balding initiate right in the middle / directly on top of their head.
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This seems unlikely to me. I've never seen anyone's balding initiate right in the middle / directly on top of their head.
Then you haven't seen many balding heads.
(http://i47.tinypic.com/lfngj.jpg)
(http://militarygradenutritionals.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/top-fitness-concerns-for-men-3-300x199.jpg)
(http://www.smpdebate.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/hair-loss-crown.jpg)
(http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/106/590x/Harry-balding-430905.jpg)
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02256/william-bald_2256875b.jpg)
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he had quite the mane of hair..his forehead was also lower in nature 'pre growth'.i still think at 40 its still respectable amount as well his muscle size compared to 'us'normal lifting folk..
Not just 40. The amount of androgens this guy's pumped his system with could've caused a cactus's spikes to fall off. He lasted a long time.
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That's the point. If it 'looks' fine, the trick is working. We all do it, man. You spray or gel your hair and cover up the bald spot at the back. Take pictures from the front only. Where's the last time you saw the back of his head? Not everyone loses their hair through an obvious receding widow's peak. Jay seems to be of the generalized thinning variety. Look at any old pic of him and now, it's night and day.
(http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/Wf6Hybl4IaI/hqdefault.jpg)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=536004.0;attach=564528;image)
As i said, they looks way thinner compared to the past... He keeps that short haircut, plus gel or spray, seems the trick is working and the balding isn't noticeable still...
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As i said, they looks way thinner compared to the past... He keeps that short haircut, plus gel or spray, seems the trick is working and the balding isn't noticeable still...
We're just picking on Jay's hair because it was one of his best qualities. Nobody makes fun of branch or rami for being bald, know what I mean. ;)
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We're just picking on Jay's hair because it was one of his best qualities. Nobody makes fun of branch or rami for being bald, know what I mean. ;)
;D
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He actually looked good in the first pic, hair and body. Nohomo.
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We're just picking on Jay's hair because it was one of his best qualities. Nobody makes fun of branch or rami for being bald, know what I mean. ;)
I think people do nothing BUT make fun of Branch. You can't be called a goblin with a good mop of hair ;D
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I think people do nothing BUT make fun of Branch. You can't be called a goblin with a good mop of hair ;D
I thought it was his horrible physique, lack of personality, obvious BB contest gifts, and shortness that made the rounds here? I guess you can throw in bald but it seems so minor compared to his enormous flaws.
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Smart guy do you know how much abuse his organs have taken over the years time to give them a rest.
Really, truly, not much more needs to be said. I just posted the same thing about Arnold in another thread.
Intelligent guys.
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His face hasn't aged that much, though. He has deep laugh lines from years of bulking-cutting but other than that, could pass for 33-34. The amount of chemicals he's pumped into his system is frightening.
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Really, truly, not much more needs to be said. I just posted the same thing about Arnold in another thread.
Intelligent guys.
Levrone looked to have beaten this mental illness til I saw recent vids of him. Sad.
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The man on the left is actually 5 foot, 6 inches and is 174 pounds.
Jay has shrunk considerably.
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cutler still has mass to lose to improve his health.
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amazing how much gh has widened his jaw. his whole facial structure is different.
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The man on the left is actually 5 foot, 6 inches and is 174 pounds.
Jay has shrunk considerably.
(https://scontent-b-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/429374_373974769348110_886214245_n.jpg)
I thought the guy on the left was actually 5'5 165??
Pics are really deceiving
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(https://scontent-b-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/10250182_764467223588019_1999779503057512332_n.jpg)
;D
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The man on the left is actually 5 foot, 6 inches and is 174 pounds.
Jay has shrunk considerably.
(https://scontent-b-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/429374_373974769348110_886214245_n.jpg)
lolz
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Looks like he is seriously downsizing...
(http://i.imgur.com/GEUs6ir.jpg)
Interesting shirt jay's got there....
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Interesting shirt jay's got there....
LOL! ;D
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Isn't that "doll" the logo of a Supp company ?
WoooSSSHHHH BeYeKe
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No need to be 300lbs when you don't compete.
No need to be 200 pound it u dont compete! I think 200 pound with 15% fat is cutler without drugs! Or maybe less, maybe the system is faked over the years. No natural testo production....
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Good point. He's only 5'9". So 200lbs would be considered heavy, especially if lean.
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I really spell like a 10 year old boy (girls often spell better). Ill try to get better. Don't want to ruin getbigs intellectual reputation : )
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Interesting shirt jay's got there....
lol
Cutler, fruitcake of peace...
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lol
Cutler, fruitcake of peace...
(http://i.imgur.com/u76i9Qy.jpg)
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Some haters believe that after 20 years of AAS and GH, Jay's bones probably weigh 200 pound by themselves.
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Some haters believe that after 20 years of AAS and GH, Jay's bones probably weigh 200 pound by themselves.
He's basically gone from 250-260 at the 2013 Olympia to about 225 in these pics with off-season condition. Hard to blame them.
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He's basically gone from 250-260 at the 2013 Olympia to about 225 in these pics with off-season condition. Hard to blame them.
i think he was lighter than that at the 'o',never seen him sweats and long sleeve look so 'sucked down'and he wasn't in 09 level of hardness/seperation.he always has some form of abs even offseason ,of course peak 290/300 he was just massive'ronnie years'.
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i think he was lighter than that at the 'o',never seen him sweats and long sleeve look so 'sucked down'and he wasn't in 09 level of hardness/seperation.he always has some form of abs even offseason ,of course peak 290/300 he was just massive'ronnie years'.
He said he was 262 two weeks out from the 2013 "O" on BB.com
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=156871963 (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=156871963)
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He said he was 262 two weeks out from the 2013 "O" on BB.com
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=156871963 (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=156871963)
i hear you,but sure did not look it.260/270 jay onstage was huge ,he was def down in size/fullness.dosen't matter he's lucky he landed 6th and i was rooting a top 3 for him lol..
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That's the point. If it 'looks' fine, the trick is working. We all do it, man. You spray or gel your hair and cover up the bald spot at the back. Take pictures from the front only. Where's the last time you saw the back of his head? Not everyone loses their hair through an obvious receding widow's peak. Jay seems to be of the generalized thinning variety. Look at any old pic of him and now, it's night and day.
(http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/Wf6Hybl4IaI/hqdefault.jpg)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=536004.0;attach=564528;image)
Yup, sadly I'm going through the exact same situation as Jay is with my hair. I'm 36. It started when I was 28/29, but barely noticeable. Even now, when I wear my hair like Jay's, I conceal quite a bit. There's no apparent bald SPOT, but, it's thinning.
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i hear you,but sure did not look it.260/270 jay onstage was huge ,he was def down in size/fullness.dosen't matter he's lucky he landed 6th and i was rooting a top 3 for him lol..
2006 he was 267
This was 2013
you be the judge
'06
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/big/2006/2006olympia_mf422.jpg)
'13
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Yup, sadly I'm going through the exact same situation as Jay is with my hair. I'm 36. It started when I was 28/29, but barely noticeable. Even now, when I wear my hair like Jay's, I conceal quite a bit. There's no apparent bald SPOT, but, it's thinning.
I have a full head of hair also, just trimmed it to 3mm and have a reliable shadow with now recession. But when I let it grow longer and part it down the middle, I can see a faint crop circle forming at the back/top of my scalp. It's like the top portion of my head has become a sort of island and has two lines separating it from the sides. First sign of thinning.
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This seems unlikely to me. I've never seen anyone's balding initiate right in the middle / directly on top of their head.
Mine has buddy. Starting on the top (NO receding hair line)..
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Mine has buddy. Starting on the top (NO receding hair line)..
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Then you haven't seen many balding heads.
(http://i47.tinypic.com/lfngj.jpg)
(http://militarygradenutritionals.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/top-fitness-concerns-for-men-3-300x199.jpg)
(http://www.smpdebate.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/hair-loss-crown.jpg)
(http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/106/590x/Harry-balding-430905.jpg)
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02256/william-bald_2256875b.jpg)
I'm like the 3rd and 4th pic. It's less noticeable on me, because my hair's curly/wavy, but if you're taller than me, or if I bend down, you can see it.
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2006 he was 267
This was 2013
you be the judge
'06
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/big/2006/2006olympia_mf422.jpg)
'13
(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTp2NXKPYHvlcqvsIkKKkapfY5VOJJ5tjEj93aLFA1rHSy0VAGM)
he looks like crap in a 'crab'pose he looks best with hand clasped or hands hip,and you could see he loses his delts badly in that pose,and his chest is down as well compared to 06 it was fuller and sat higher and delts were capped full .legs seperation always was solid but even '13'he was smaller in mass in the quads and it was expected he didn't prepare full steam.
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I'm like the 3rd and 4th pic. It's less noticeable on me, because my hair's curly/wavy, but if you're taller than me, or if I bend down, you can see it.
36 is almost middle age for a healthy man. It's nothing to feel insecure about at that age. It's being bald in your 20s, early 30s that is hard to take.
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he looks like crap in a 'crab'pose he looks best with hand clasped or hands hip,and you could see he loses his delts badly in that pose,and his chest is down as well compared to 06 it was fuller and sat higher and delts were capped full .legs seperation always was solid but even '13'he was smaller in mass in the quads and it was expected he didn't prepare full steam.
Most obvious losses have been his forearms and biceps. He shoots oil in the bis but the forearms are damaged.
mid-2013
(http://i.imgur.com/0Ua0YdU.jpg)
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Most obvious losses have been his forearms and biceps. He shoots oil in the bis but the forearms are damaged.
mid-2013
(http://i.imgur.com/0Ua0YdU.jpg)
when its all said and done,this pic hear the 'healthy'lol jay is still a tank,delts/traps/chest to walk around convention and pump 3/4 days a week semi heavy weight but significantly less than he did at his peak is still impressive,i wouldn't mind that size/look period..
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As i said, they looks way thinner compared to the past... He keeps that short haircut, plus gel or spray, seems the trick is working and the balding isn't noticeable still...
That haircut DOES help. It's how I wear mine as well.
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when its all said and done,this pic hear the 'healthy'lol jay is still a tank,delts/traps/chest to walk around convention and pump 3/4 days a week semi heavy weight but significantly less than he did at his peak is still impressive,i wouldn't mind that size/look period..
This is Jay at his very best to me. 2005.
(http://muscletime.com/gallery-10145)
(http://muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=42487&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=202)
(http://muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=42484&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=202)
(http://www.orecordar.com/photos/20120918134799429173794.jpg)
Pure alpha in this pic. Awesome gym look.
(http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/mErkvnX4S6E/0.jpg)
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That haircut DOES help. It's how I wear mine as well.
LOOKS GOOD LITTLE POMADE FOR SMALL POMP,,OR STRAIGHT SLICK BACK.COMBING IT FRONT FOWARD AND GELLED HARD IS HORRIBLE..
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That haircut DOES help. It's how I wear mine as well.
Damn that is thin, man. I'm thicker than that.
But I'm losing it too.
(http://i.imgur.com/psMjOPI.jpg)
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This is Jay at his very best to me. 2005.
(http://muscletime.com/gallery-10145)
(http://muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=42487&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=202)
(http://muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=42484&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=202)
(http://www.orecordar.com/photos/20120918134799429173794.jpg)
Pure alpha in this pic. Awesome gym look.
(http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/mErkvnX4S6E/0.jpg)
CHEST/DELT/TRAP RIDICULOUS THERE...I LIKE THIS POLISHED 'DRAGO JAY'
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CHEST/DELT/TRAP RIDICULOUS THERE...I LIKE THIS POLISHED 'DRAGO JAY'
Sad.
(http://oi55.tinypic.com/xbcrc8.jpg)
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Sad.
(http://oi55.tinypic.com/xbcrc8.jpg)
NOW THATS RIDICULOUS..
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Damn that is thin, man. I'm thicker than that.
But I'm losing it too.
(http://i.imgur.com/psMjOPI.jpg)
I do shave the sides and the top/back pretty short, so it does give the illusion that I don't have much hair. If I grow it out, it can still appear that I have a lot of hair, but there's no way you can grab it from the top like you could a few years ago (the same places where Jay is losing his).
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I do shave the sides and the top/back pretty short, so it does give the illusion that I don't have much hair. If I grow it out, it can still appear that I have a lot of hair, but there's no way you can grab it from the top like you could a few years ago (the same places where Jay is losing his).
Hair looks thicker when it's buzzed short. Mine looks thinnest when it's about 2-3" long. The thinness of it fails to cover the crown pattern at the back.
Either way, I'm 29. At 36 it'll be much worse.
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Hair looks thicker when it's buzzed short. Mine looks thinnest when it's about 2-3" long. The thinness of it fails to cover the crown pattern at the back.
Either way, I'm 29. At 36 it'll be much worse.
Unfortunately you will. At 29 I was nowhere near where I am today. Looking back on some pics, it's night and day how much it's thinned out on top in that short period of time. It's a bitch, but if I lose it, I lose it.
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Cutler was supposedly about 230 pounds at the 2004 Arnold Classic when Chris Cormier wiped the floor with him and got robbed...
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Cutler was supposedly about 230 pounds at the 2004 Arnold Classic when Chris Cormier wiped the floor with him and got robbed...
HE WAS WAY OFF SIZE/EVEN THO HE WAS RIPPED ,HE LOOKED SMALL..FOR HIM...PIC I POSTED FROM 03ABOVE HE WAS BIG/GREAT COLOR/SHAPE WHOLE 9...