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The NPC has grown by leaps and ‘pounds’ since the inception of the relatively new Physique divisions (Male and Female).
NPC events that drew less than 100 contestants just a few years back are now nearly filoled to capacity with 700+ contestants during a one -day event .... are somewhat normal today
And the number of IFBB Pro Cards that are now issued on a yearly basis far exceeds the number of Pro Cards issued since the years between Scott and Wheeler in which that coveted award was presented.
Some see this as bad, while most others see this as a great opportunity that will allow new competitors the opportunity to make a living while doing something that they love
to do.
Many years ago, a bodybuilder was cpnsidered to be a “pro” if he competied in a bodybuilding contest in which there was as cash award. And any competitor who won that cash award (or something of monetary value other than the standard trophy) would be considered to be a “pro” and coul thereby ce declared as ineligible in any future NPC event.
In addition …. the IFBB would not consider that individual to be eligible to compete within IFBB events,
So now a relatively large number of individuals have the capability and potential to win that Pro Card and compete within IFBB events with the hopes of a financial rreturn.
So the big questions now are …
How many Physique Events are promoted within the IFBB that offer financial winnings?
What is the amount of those financial awards?
Is there enough of a ‘reward’ to maintain the interest of the vast number of contenders who have received IFBB Physque Pro cards within the past few years?
And … How many male and female Pro Physique contestants are there within the IFBB today who display enough interest in future competitions to maintain their yearly IFBB membership?
How many Physique pros have noteworthy contracts within the suppliment/fitness business today?
Most Get-Biggers will not agree,… but it appears to me that these Physique Division events will be the bread and butter of the NPC and IFBB in the immediate future ..,,and may damn well be the “Golden Egg” right now in this present day.
Physique – The future of bodybuilding as we used to know it ????
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Physique is like bikini. Look at O scorecards, they have no clue what to look for.
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Thanks, Lustral, But do you think that 'no clue' excuse will have an adverse effect on the future of Physique events?
Can someone post the Olympia Physique scorecards for 2012 and 2013?
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As far as I'm aware you pay to enter these shows. Add in the two to four people who come to watch each competitor plus the bbing shmoes and it equates to a full house. That's all promoters care about and what they want is good for the bbing industry,
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Physique is good for the IFBB it attracts a much larger audience. Many competitors land good sponsor deals and are much easier to market. I personally want to look nothing like Kai Or Phil. Sectors like this, wbff and musclemania are bringing aesthetic pleasing builds back.
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You already have a perfect pussy slaying physique Enzo, that;s what it's about. No homo.
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LUSTrAL / ENZO, Thanks for the intelligent responses.
I know very little about Physique competitions but I do agree that they have increased tickert sales and that there are a hell of a lot more competitors entering these Physique events that whose who are entering the bodybuilding events.
And that means a huge increase in ticket sales and increased interest among the general public. (Thanks, ENZO!)
Can anyone list the top ten IFBB physique pros (male and female) who have been signed by supplement companies. I have no idea who they may be other than the LV physique contender who won the Oly Physique title recently whose name i have presently forgotten.
It is my contention that these top physique pros will be in big demand by the sup companies once the general public is more aware of these physique events and those individuals participating within them.
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Physique is good for the IFBB it attracts a much larger audience. Many competitors land good sponsor deals and are much easier to market. I personally want to look nothing like Kai Or Phil. Sectors like this, wbff and musclemania are bringing aesthetic pleasing builds back.
This. Who cares if someone has a another 3" on his arm when he looks like 250 lbs of shit in a 200 lb bag.
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I assume they are making money like gangbusters on physique. Go to a show and it's like 2:1 physique to BBer now.
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Physique is good for the IFBB it attracts a much larger audience. Many competitors land good sponsor deals and are much easier to market. I personally want to look nothing like Kai Or Phil. Sectors like this, wbff and musclemania are bringing aesthetic pleasing builds back.
(http://i57.tinypic.com/290uhqh.jpg)
Wayne looking fantastic
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Physique guys should wear something like this so you can see their quads those long shorts are a fucking joke.
(http://www.physiquebodywareusa.com/Images/Large_Images/animal_print_workout_shorts.jpg)
Right now its the NPC johnny bravo physique competition.
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It makes logical sense Stunt. I agree with ENZO on this as well.
If you were to compare the line up of IFBB pros from the golden era of bodybuilding to today's Men's Physique lineup, you would find that they look much more similar to each other, than if you were to compare them to a present day lineup of actual IFBB Olympia competitors.
Take a look for yourself. I'd much rather look like a Men's Physique competitor than a Mr. Olympia contestant any day.
(http://news.bodybyo.com/wp-content/uploads/govcupmensphysique.jpg)
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Today's look is just too much. It doesn't inspire a sense of health and well-being, instead it leads the mass public to see professional bodybuilding as a strange cult following with an obsession to drugs and mass-enhancing oils.
There's a simple everyday test to check for this as well. Throw on a business suit on Men's Physique competitors and they look good in it. Throw on a business suit on the pro bodybuilders from the golden era and they also look good in it. Try to throw on a suit on today's Mr. Olympia competitors and this happens:
"1"
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The increase in audience size is in proportion to the male/female competitors plus Bikini. It is NOT the average citizen coming off the street as a fan to buy a ticket and take a look. Bodybuilders are loners for the most part. They bring to the shows a GF, wife or a few good buds from the gym. However....The Physique and Bikini competitors bring the whole freakin family plus friends. That is what is filling the seats. None the less....money for those who run the shows and Jim Manion et al. (NPC cards)
It will be with us from here on out.
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LUSTrAL / ENZO, Thanks for the intelligent responses.
I know very little about Physique competitions but I do agree that they have increased tickert sales and that there are a hell of a lot more competitors entering these Physique events that whose who are entering the bodybuilding events.
And that means a huge increase in ticket sales and increased interest among the general public. (Thanks, ENZO!)
Can anyone list the top ten IFBB physique pros (male and female) who have been signed by supplement companies. I have no idea who they may be other than the LV physique contender who won the Oly Physique title recently whose name i have presently forgotten.
It is my contention that these top physique pros will be in big demand by the sup companies once the general public is more aware of these physique events and those individuals participating within them.
Marc Anthony and Steve Cook are 2 US physique pros that come to mind in terms of being in every magazine with multiple sponsors.
The goals of competitors in this realm are different than a typical bodybuilder. Most want mainstream exposure through modeling campaigns and fitness endorsements. 2 guys with very successful careers and sick builds are my brothers Sergi Constance and Jaco De Bruyn
(http://i60.tinypic.com/15fhenn.jpg)
(http://i60.tinypic.com/a9fdh.jpg)
Me getting dwarfed
(http://i59.tinypic.com/2aikodf.jpg)
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The way I see it is mens physique is destroying bodybuilding but building up the NPC/IFBB. Its destroying bodybuilding in the sense that most guys aren't willing to risk their health pumping themselves full of gear and hate training legs, so they build up their upper bodies on minimal juice and have a chance at a pro card. Bodybuilders have to not only train like animals but resort to injecting boatloads of shit just to place top 10 at the nats or usas. Hell, IFBB gives out pro cards to jr nat, jr usa, and the rest of the national level shows to physique guys. The writing is on the wall, look at any local/regional show, there are usually less than 20 bodybuilders and more than 150 physique guys! Either bodybuilders need to size down and look more like human beings or this activity will die as the NPC and IFBB rake in the money with T&A shows and legless physique guys.
I personally think classical bodybuilding is where its at. Don't let these guys become grotesque turds with pregnant guts, rather encourage them to work on their posing and symmetry.
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why is women's Physique really just bodybuilding light, with flexing and posing routines, but men's Physique is stand and model, no different than women's bikini?. Men's physique is great for the promoters but not really competition bodybuilding.
Outside the US, "Classical bodybuilding" divisions, where there were weight/height limitations, were becoming popular, but not so much now with Physique taking over.
In the NPC, fewer and fewer contestants are entering the men's bodybuilding classes. Just like women's Bodybuilding before it, real soon there will be local NPC contests with no men's bodybuilding. But while the women have bodybulding-lite in women's Physique, there is no corresponding division for the men.
The orgs could have easily created a division for more aesthetically pleasing that still contained flexing and posing routines. Why they went with the board shorts and stand and model, I don't understand.
But whether it is Bodybuilding, Classical Bodybuilding, or Physique, the type of physiques that win is solely up to the judges. And just like bodybuilding before it, the judges in men's Physique keep rewarding mass and conditioning over symmetry and proportionality. Look at the changes over the last few years in the winners of the national and pro men's Physique contests. The judges are rewarding who ever is bigger, drier, and has lower bodyfat. In other words the contestants are having to do more and more drugs to be able to compete. So while today the fans can relate more to the guys in the Physique classes, with more guys at the gym saying "hey I can do that" and then go enter a contest, the judges continue to reward the more extreme physiques, making the fans relate less, and making most of the contestants think "why should I enter? I can't compete with the guys doing all those drugs." And then we'll be right back where we started.
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Marc Anthony and Steve Cook are 2 US physique pros that come to mind in terms of being in every magazine with multiple sponsors.
The goals of competitors in this realm are different than a typical bodybuilder. Most want mainstream exposure through modeling campaigns and fitness endorsements. 2 guys with very successful careers and sick builds are my brothers Sergi Constance and Jaco De Bruyn
(http://i60.tinypic.com/15fhenn.jpg)
(http://i60.tinypic.com/a9fdh.jpg)
Me getting dwarfed
(http://i59.tinypic.com/2aikodf.jpg)
Those are def big guys. Ideal looks.
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Physique is good for the IFBB it attracts a much larger audience. Many competitors land good sponsor deals and are much easier to market. I personally want to look nothing like Kai Or Phil. Sectors like this, wbff and musclemania are bringing aesthetic pleasing builds back.
(http://i57.tinypic.com/290uhqh.jpg)
Mel Brooks looking pretty swole in that pic.
The physique contest is up there with the douchiest things I've ever heard of. All hair gel, bleached teeth and frosted tips.
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THanks to you all .... some great and interesting comments here, most of which I have a problem disagreeing with.
And that 'disagreement' is only a result my personal differences from the way I th ink it should be done. But I plan to read each of these posts in detail and make some adverse comments if possible for the sake of argument.
But you gotta remember ... NPC/IBBB Physique competitions are still in the 'infancy" stage and changes could possibly be made as the 'sport' matures.
If any change is made at all .... I think it will be "shorter shorts" in an effort to encourage leg development as THE TRAINER so aptly displayed above.
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My initial attempt to reply to each of the above.....
ENZO ... First of all thanks for the kick to my memory banks. I always forget Mark Anthony's name. Wasn't he the guy who killed Caesar or the guy who made that famous speech about "Lend me your ears!"?
I've talked to Mark a number of times at the Oly Expo and other events and have also met Sergi Constance during the Meet Thr Olympians at the Orleans. It was evident that he would get a Pro Card. I'll try to find the photo I took that evening.
And I had a brief meeting with JACO when he was here in LV competing in another contest that was sponsored by another organization.
In my humble opinion Jaco is as good as you can get within the Physique comopetitive world but I was told that he only took the 3rd place award that evening.. (Someone may want to confirm this because I could be wrong,.)
I think Jaco is from some major city in South Africa and has yet to compete within the NPC but he would be one hell of a great contender within the IFBB.
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The shorts and "posing" are a joke. They also need clear judging criteria, I was reading people's predictions before the last O then, same as bikini, the placing was like a raffle.
I knew the guys had good size but seeing that photo with Enzo they are damn big dudes. Seeing Cutler in that pic with the camouflage makes you realise how shitty modern bbers look to Joe Public. No way they could get a movie role even if they weren't mildly handicapped at acting (Wolf).
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=327199.0;attach=366778;image)
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My initial attempt to reply to ech of the above.....
ENZO ... First of all thank for the kick to my memory banks. I always forget Mark Anthony's name. Wasn't he the guy who killed Caesar or the guy who made that famous speech about "Lend me your ears!"?
I've talkewd to Mark a number of times at the Oly Expo and other events and jave also met Sergi Constance during the Meet Thr Olympians at the Orleans. It was evident that he would get a Pro Card. I'll try to find the photo I took that evening.
And I had a brief meeting with JACO when he was here in LV competing in another contest that was sponsored by another organization.
In my humble opinion Jaco is as good as you can get within the Physique comopetitive world but I was told that he only took the 3rd place award that evening.. (Someone may want to confirm this because I could be wrong,.)
I think Jaco is from some major city in South Africa and has yet to compete within the NPC but he would be one hell of a great contender within the IFBB.
Jaco is in the wbff and would wipe the floor with most npc and ifbb physique pros. He'd wipe the floor with many guys from arnolds era too imo. He'd crush frank Zane for one.
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Why do people keep talking about ideal look in bodybuilding, can the average athlete play like michael jordon, can they run like usain bolt, can they knockout people like mike tyson, no they cant that is why these extreme athletes makes good money.
So why the hell do you want the best bodybuilders in the world to look like average gym rats, that is why I say fuck physique contests hardcore bodybuilding is what I watch.
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My initial attempt to reply to each of the above.....
ENZO ... First of all thanks for the kick to my memory banks. I always forget Mark Anthony's name. Wasn't he the guy who killed Caesar or the guy who made that famous speech about "Lend me your ears!"?
I've talked to Mark a number of times at the Oly Expo and other events and have also met Sergi Constance during the Meet Thr Olympians at the Orleans. It was evident that he would get a Pro Card. I'll try to find the photo I took that evening.
And I had a brief meeting with JACO when he was here in LV competing in another contest that was sponsored by another organization.
In my humble opinion Jaco is as good as you can get within the Physique comopetitive world but I was told that he only took the 3rd place award that evening.. (Someone may want to confirm this because I could be wrong,.)
I think Jaco is from some major city in South Africa and has yet to compete within the NPC but he would be one hell of a great contender within the IFBB.
Yup he took 3rd. AJ Elisson was first, I prefer competing in WBFF (no stupid board shorts)..physique still has kinks to work out.
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CORE, I think I totally agree with you regarding JACO. DO you know if it is true that he placed 3rd in a recent LV .. contest .... THANKS, ENZO.?
There is a great beginner's phot of JACO that was taken when he first started. It proves that most young guys in decent shape can improve themselves immensely.
I'll try to find that photo and post it here someplace.
But first here's a photo of Sergi that I took at the Oly Meet the Pros event and a photo of Mark ANthony taken at the Oly Expo. Not sure butg I think Mark won the Olympia Physique that day ... or possibly the year before.
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Guy in 2nd pic there has triceps worse than mine.
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JACO at the start ..... But I have no idea how many years passed from s tart to finish.
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Marc Anthony and Steve Cook are 2 US physique pros that come to mind in terms of being in every magazine with multiple sponsors.
The goals of competitors in this realm are different than a typical bodybuilder. Most want mainstream exposure through modeling campaigns and fitness endorsements. 2 guys with very successful careers and sick builds are my brothers Sergi Constance and Jaco De Bruyn
(http://i60.tinypic.com/15fhenn.jpg)
(http://i60.tinypic.com/a9fdh.jpg)
Me getting dwarfed
(http://i59.tinypic.com/2aikodf.jpg)
Marc Anthony is a overrated douche! Guy shouldn't have won and many agree! It's obviously his "connections" with jay among other stuff!
Imo Jason Poston is the best overall right now
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Jason Poston is a babe, which brings me to my next point: I don't really care for men's physique because the poses look unnatural and effeminate, plus, I like dudes with legs.
That said, there are some dudes competing in IFBB Physique and WBFF Muscle Model who I would bang the pants off of (and I've found that I prefer them offseason. I dunno, slightly manlier look)
(http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/fe/c4/1a/fec41a420613b0d8bfd4ab5839ae589c.jpg)
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Jason Poston is a babe, which brings me to my next point: I don't really care for men's physique because the poses look unnatural and effeminate, plus, I like dudes with legs.
That said, there are some dudes competing in IFBB Physique and WBFF Muscle Model who I would bang the pants off of (and I've found that I prefer them offseason. I dunno, slightly manlier look)
(http://i44.tinypic.com/2n86bn6.jpg)
Nice to know you want to bang my pants off ;)
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Nice to know you want to bang my pants off ;)
NOT ARGUING, BUDDY
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Lets bring this thread back to reality, this is what a real bodybuilder looks like, and for those of you who say I dont want to look like that guess what, you cant cause you dont have the genes and the drug response.
(http://body-world.net/wp-content/gallery/victor-martinez/victor-martinez-11.jpg)
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All I know is that if I had a physique like some of these fitness dudes, I'd consider that a personal success.
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Lets bring this thread back to reality, this is what a real bodybuilder looks like, and for those of you who say I dont want to look like that guess what, you cant cause you dont have the genes and the drug response.
(http://body-world.net/wp-content/gallery/victor-martinez/victor-martinez-11.jpg)
Vick is the man, I've met him several times and he's a fellow dominican so I don't want it to sound like hate when I say NO I don't. Majority of the year he doesn't even look like that. I don't want to be a moon faced walking pin cushion. My bulk is leaner then a lot of clowns on stage
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Vick is the man, I've met him several times and he's a fellow dominican so I don't want it to sound like hate when I say NO I don't. Majority of the year he doesn't even look like that. I don't want to be a moon faced walking pin cushion. My bulk is leaner then a lot of clowns on stage
The point I am trying to make is when you see the guys in a physique competition you say cool that dude looks good, but when you see big ramy and ronnie in his prime you say holy fuck what a freak, I want to be shocked by a physique and that is impossible with physique competitors so I am kind of pissed that less people are entering bodybuilding competition and going for physique.
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The point I am trying to make is when you see the guys in a physique competition you say cool that dude looks good, but when you see big ramy and ronnie in his prime you say holy fuck what a freak, I want to be shocked by a physique and that is impossible with physique competitors so I am kind of pissed that less people are entering bodybuilding competition and going for physique.
That's your opinion on what a bb'er should look like. I get it, the novelity of looking like a drug experiment is cool. But I think they should resemble Ulissis jr. I was never a Ronnie fan. Waits for meltdowns
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Wayne looking fantastic
Rick Wayne was probably the most under rated bodybuilder of the 70s...a Shawn Ray type physique before Shawn Ray, yet with Aaron Baker under rated-ness.
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The point I am trying to make is when you see the guys in a physique competition you say cool that dude looks good, but when you see big ramy and ronnie in his prime you say holy fuck what a freak, I want to be shocked by a physique and that is impossible with physique competitors so I am kind of pissed that less people are entering bodybuilding competition and going for physique.
These things run in cycles. Don't you imagine that with all the health risks monster bodybuilders endure and sometimes succumb to, there is going to be a shift away from being super huge? This shift won't last forever. Human nature dictates that more or bigger is better. We are always trying to top ourselves and be better than the next person. One way to do that in bodybuilding is to get bigger. Another way, is to be lean and cut all to heck.
The bottom line is that humans come in different sizes and shapes. Not everyone can get huge, at least not naturally. Some folks are naturally very muscular and stocky. These folks probably can't sustain being lean without subjecting their bodies to similar health risks. As I have written here many times, I was a skinny kid. I always wanted to be big and muscular. I sort of achieved that for a moment at 29 years of age. It felt good in my head, but my body wasn't in peak condition/health. Being an old man now, I realize that being healthy is everything. I'll never be a skinny kid again and I also will never be a muscle monster. All I want today is to be as fit as possible for an old fart. Like Booty, I also like looking as good as I can. It is a vanity thing.
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Looking good, is a good thing... everybody wants to look good.
But...What's the point of having a body that you can not move?
Agility. ;)
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Why do people keep talking about ideal look in bodybuilding, can the average athlete play like michael jordon, can they run like usain bolt, can they knockout people like mike tyson, no they cant that is why these extreme athletes makes good money.
So why the hell do you want the best bodybuilders in the world to look like average gym rats, that is why I say fuck physique contests hardcore bodybuilding is what I watch.
Jaco looks fucking insane dude, in shape he is shredded to the bone in a way you simply do not see on today's stages, at least in the open division. The 212 guys look pretty good, Raymond for one, and Dave Henry as well. Flex Lewis is ripped but its not a hard look like Jose or Dave get. Flex gets by with his mass per square inch factor, and his consistency as well as completeness. He deserves his success, but in terms of pure freak condition Raymond and Dave Henry are better. I can only speculate, but I would say that it is Flex being very reliant on insulin to carry size, as opposed to Dave with his black genetics, and Jose with his obvious insane AAS ABUSE, retarded amounts of gear probably runs everything super high and hits the diuretics and AI's hard as fuck come show time to get stupidly ripped. Not healthy, but results wise he knows what he's doing. Jose has also been bodybuilding his entire adult life, and he's not a young guy so he's got that grainy condition that guys tend to get as time on AAS increases. Look at guys who blew up quick, the young guys like Dallas McCarver. They simply don't have that look that the older guys have.
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Enzo looks great, better/wider than Heath
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These things run in cycles. Don't you imagine that with all the health risks monster bodybuilders endure and sometimes succumb to, there is going to be a shift away from being super huge? This shift won't last forever. Human nature dictates that more or bigger is better. We are always trying to top ourselves and be better than the next person. One way to do that in bodybuilding is to get bigger. Another way, is to be lean and cut all to heck.
The bottom line is that humans come in different sizes and shapes. Not everyone can get huge, at least not naturally. Some folks are naturally very muscular and stocky. These folks probably can't sustain being lean without subjecting their bodies to similar health risks. As I have written here many times, I was a skinny kid. I always wanted to be big and muscular. I sort of achieved that for a moment at 29 years of age. It felt good in my head, but my body wasn't in peak condition/health. Being an old man now, I realize that being healthy is everything. I'll never be a skinny kid again and I also will never be a muscle monster. All I want today is to be as fit as possible for an old fart. Like Booty, I also like looking as good as I can. It is a vanity thing.
That is human nature we have to keep pushing the envelope, guys going up to the edge of the planet earth and jumping, try to break the bench press record, try to be a freakier monster than ronnie coleman, I will always give my support to humans who keep pushing the envelope because they are going to a level we can never go, so we live our fantasy through them.
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Nice to know you want to bang my pants off ;)
wouldn't pants already have to be off in the first place before she smashes you ???
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Enzo looks great, better/wider than Heath
Enzo looks insane, that's 'the look' most guys would give their left nut to have. Good genetics, hard work, and a solid plan in place being carried out every day. That's what gives one that level of physique.
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Enzo looks insane, that's 'the look' most guys would give their left nut to have. Good genetics, hard work, and a solid plan in place being carried out every day. That's what gives one that level of physique.
enzo looks like shit...and I'm only saying that because I'm hating ;D
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I used to rag on these guys but now I am working towards becoming one of them. These physique that enzo, jaco, etc have are desirable far more than the bloated and pregnant bags of oil filled shit that's on stage these days.
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I used to rag on these guys but now I am working towards becoming one of them. These physique that enzo, jaco, etc have are desirable far more than the bloated and pregnant bags of oil filled shit that's on stage these days.
totally agreed. the look i aim for is about 15% more size than the MP guys, but I have a largish frame to fill and a MP look doesn't look right on me. It's nice to know however, that it doesn't take a lot of time to build a MP level physique. If you start out under 10% and already have some training udner your belt you can be there in about 8-10 weeks. Simple equation involving low test moderate tren and mast, with an ai, and maybe some diuretics before a show. good clean diet, train every day.... easy stuff. Anyone can do it, that's why it's getting so popular. I've met a guy at the grocery store who was dieting for a MP show, just randomly out of the blue. I think it's a good thing personally, its getting a lot of the hype away from the messes we see at mens bbing shows (dont even start me on the women's bbing events lol) and opening up competitions to be more accessible. It's a lot healthier too, both mentally and physiqually (see what I did there :D)
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I used to rag on these guys but now I am working towards becoming one of them. These physique that enzo, jaco, etc have are desirable far more than the bloated and pregnant bags of oil filled shit that's on stage these days.
I'm glad bros are seeing the light
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I'm glad bros are seeing the light
I'm trying to see it too, and I don't usually have to work this hard, buddy.
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It's def a success, based on the large lineups and the positive feedback it gets. It's not my cup of tea, esp their catwalk-like posing LOL, but let's not hate, everyone who trains/diets their ass off deserves huge respect :)
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the shorts need to be swimtrunks but whats not to like?
not out of breath after 1\2 mile jog
one set of suit size year round
one neck
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Marc Anthony and Steve Cook are 2 US physique pros that come to mind in terms of being in every magazine with multiple sponsors.
The goals of competitors in this realm are different than a typical bodybuilder. Most want mainstream exposure through modeling campaigns and fitness endorsements. 2 guys with very successful careers and sick builds are my brothers Sergi Constance and Jaco De Bruyn
(http://i60.tinypic.com/15fhenn.jpg)
(http://i60.tinypic.com/a9fdh.jpg)
Me getting dwarfed
(http://i59.tinypic.com/2aikodf.jpg)
deltroids too big for his arms imo. especially tric...
all these guys has the "tren'ed" look imo. looks different than the iron age dbol bbers
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these guys are built just right'no homo'.props to our resident poster enzo .
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This. Who cares if someone has a another 3" on his arm when he looks like 250 lbs of shit in a 200 lb bag.
Defining 99% of the guys in my gym....
sad to say, but they don't educate themselves. They just "hit and miss" and are waiting for something to happen.. and in the process age sets in and all goes to total dog shit ~
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Lets bring this thread back to reality, this is what a real bodybuilder looks like, and for those of you who say I dont want to look like that guess what, you cant cause you dont have the genes and the drug response.
(http://body-world.net/wp-content/gallery/victor-martinez/victor-martinez-11.jpg)
Also true.
Physique is for all the Zyzz's of the world who need 300mg of tren a day to look great.
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As an NPC judge i can tell you Physique and Bikini are getting a little out of hand and nearly impossible to judge. I just judged a show this past weekend with 186 competitors and the Class A bikini had 14 girls in it. The Class B Mens Physique class had 13. I always have no problem with the Top 5 of course, however these 6-XX placings are getting ridiculous to score, it almost gets down to Suit color, Eyelashes, Hair, etc. I really believe even some of the bigger local level shows may eventually turn into 2 day events doing prejuding fri nights and the show sat night....
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Wayne looking fantastic
That's the first thing I thought when I saw this shot...
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Curious as to what/how high the doses these guys run (the top competitors).
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It appears that most (if not all) agree that OPhysique events will be the trent of the future or are so already,
Such events will definitely not lead to the end of bodybuilding comps as we know them today. There will still be contenders who want to be better than Ronny, or Jay, or Wheeler, etc.
And the NPC officials will definitely not do anything to upset the status quo,
But it may eventually lead to the promotion of Physique events on its own simply in the efforrt to ‘accommodate’ all the Physique contents within a single day .... or even two days if it gets more popular than it is at present.
In the old days we promoted some form of lifting contest followed by a bodybuilding event. But as bodybuilding competitions grew by the numbers, it was necessary to ‘break away’ and run the bodybuilding events as a solitary unit.
That could be a possibility if Physique keeps on growing in numbers.
AND .... Some GetBioggers have mentioned ‘things’ that they don’t like seeing in Physique events.
I believe that some of those ‘things’ were instituted in an effort to make a clear distinction between bodybuilding and physique competitions,
But all on all, I think that the NPC and the IFBB made a very wise decision to institute Men’s and women’s physique events.
And it will continue to grow by leaps and 'pounds'.
NEXT UP : We’ve forgotten someone!
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A fellow GetBigger, a past Texas State Bodybuilding Champion, and presently an IFBB Physique Pro.
Name him ......
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Leafy bug?
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In the old days we promoted some form of lifting contest followed by a bodybuilding event. But as bodybuilding competitions grew by the numbers, it was necessary to ‘break away’ and run the bodybuilding events as a solitary unit.
exactly. Olympic style weightlifting was the main event, and bodybuilding was a side show. Many weightlifters hated having the bodybuilding part of their competition, but then bodybuilding became the thing that brought in the paying audience. Finally bodybuilding spun off from weight lifting, and oh look local olympic style weightlifting disappeared.
If local physique contests were to 'break away', there would simply be fewer and fewer bodybuilding contests. Promoters are no longer willing to hold contests where there are 12 bodybuilding contestants and 24 people in the audience. In someplace like soCal, there would be 8 or 9 physique contests and maybe 2 or 3 bodybuilding contests in a year. But there is no need for it to break away, as fewer and fewer bodybuilding contestants are entering local contests. Breaking away wouldn't make the physique events any shorter.
Already most amateur contests no longer have women's bodybuilding. The number of women entering Figure seems to be down too. They're all entering women's Physique. (Which makes sense as women's physique is still bodybuilding, with flexing and posing.)
In the pro IFBB, there are already many contests that are Physique only, many are bikini only. Women's pro bodybuilding is almost extinct. There may always be freaky men's pro bodybuilding, but like with the women, there may be fewer and fewer events.
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A fellow GetBigger, a past Texas State Bodybuilding Champion, and presently an IFBB Physique Pro.
Name him ......
KEV P
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NJ, Right! That's one time fellow GetBigger, Kevin Perod from the Lone Star State.
Damn good bodybuilder and a great IFBB Pro Physique Champion, but I have no idea how he's been doing in pro competitions. In fact .... I have no idea how anyone is doing within the Physique, Pro renks.
Maybe ENZO can help us out here with an update on the following:
Tope Ten Male and Female IFBB Pro Physique Contenders.
Top IFBB Physique contests that offer the largest financial awards and how much.
Top Physique guys and gals who are representing supplement companies.
Top Physique spoke-persons.
Yada ... Yada ... Yada......
Below shots show Kev in top BB shape and the final is supposedly top Physique .
In Kevin's case ... I think he should continue to train for BB comps .... Otherwise he could possibly be overlooked in that important initial Physique lineup.
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IN regards tro AKER's 'tough to judge" comment .... I totally agree now that there are so many contenders in any initial lineup.
Back not too long ago ... the initial lineups would consist of 6 to 12 contestants and it was relatively easy to pick out the top six contestants in that line up and then to proceed to pick out the six less deserving contentants.
And then you'd simply have to 'adjust' those placings as the prejudging proceeded.
But nowadays you can have anywhere from 20 to 40+ contenders who come out in groups of maybe 10-20 while the remainder of that wt class remains backstge until it;s there turn to come on out ....
So judging a contest today is not like judging a contest a few years ago, so the complaints from fan, families, and the contestants themselves will continue to be rampent .... but even more so that it ever has been in the past.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=484428.0;attach=526629;image)
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NJ, Right! That's one time fellow GetBigger, Kevin Perod from the Lone Star State.
Damn good bodybuilder and a great IFBB Pro Physique Champion, but I have no idea how he's been doing in pro competitions. In fact .... I have no idea how anyone is doing within the Physique, Pro renks.
Maybe ENZO can help us out here with an update on the following:
Tope Ten Male and Female IFBB Pro Physique Contenders.
Top IFBB Physique contests that offer the largest financial awards and how much.
Top Physique guys and gals who are representing supplement companies.
Top Physique spoke-persons.
Yada ... Yada ... Yada......
Below shots show Kev in top BB shape and the final is supposedly top Physique .
In Kevin's case ... I think he should continue to train for BB comps .... Otherwise he could possibly be overlooked in that important initial Physique lineup.
DUDE HAS KILLER BUILD EITHER WAY...
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NJ, I'm a bit over 6' and Kevin is a bit over that.
I have to add a bit to what TIM has stated above concerning the promotion of an event in which Olympic Lifting and Bodybuilding contests were hald at the same time.
The BIG PROBLEM back then was that in most cases the Bodybiuilding portion of the event would only start after the Olympic Lifting was completely finished and all the Olympic Lifting trophies were awarded.
In many cases that would mean that the bodybuilding event would start way after milnight.
I can recall one such event back in the 60’s when such an event was held at the Embassy Auditorium in the downtown area of Los Angeles. This contest was promoted by the Hoffman contingent (York Barbell) and the Olympic Lifting was a national event.
I sort of recall that there were less than 40 who managed to stay awake to watch the bodybuilding contest, most of whom managed to get some shut-eye on the auditorimn floor way before the Olympic Lifting was complete ad the trophies were presented.
I can also recall that the sun was coming up over the eastern horizon as we walked out of that venue.
This is the sort of ‘stuff’ that broke the camel’s back (the AAU) and one of the principal reasons why the NPC came into existence..
I was a part of that ‘break-a-way’ and was present at the formal meetings that were held in order to make everything legal prior to the breakaway and the founding of the NPC .. and that’s one hell of an interesting story in itself which I believe I wrote about earlier.
Thanks for all this input , GetBiggers!
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Not sure about this but .... something that may have encouraged the NPC and the IFBB to sanction Physique events may have been the success of Lou Zwick's non-sanctioned Muscle Mania Contests which are quite large and cover events on an international basis.
And as mentioned earlier another possible motivator to sanction and promote Physique contests may have been due to the general public's attitude towards "too much muscle" - as is so evident by many of these GetBig Board postings.
ANd it's also interesting to note that Physique comps were never instituted while Mr. Weider was in command and that the IFBB Pro Cards were maintained at an absolute minimum.
Once again I have to say that it was a wise decision by the present NPC administration to initiate Physique competitions regardless of what some GetBiggers feel about the outcome.
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these guys are built just right'no homo'.props to our resident poster enzo .
agreed. this is 'bodybuilding'.
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NO ONE, No intent to correct ya but it may be more accurate to say, "This is the way it should have been !"
But even I have a difficult time agreeing with that statement.
Bodybuilding by it's very definition should be a progressive event .... and none of us can deny that it's been other-wise.
But the 'otherwise' part seems to upset a host of individuals who have nothing to do with building excessive muscle other than stating their objections because others have ....and in some cases ... They have not!
Regardless of what we personally claim ... there seems to be a lot of jealousy when it
comes to building muscle or getting in damn good shape like Kevin and Enzo and so many others.
Jealousy is a bitch but ,,,, it'll never go away. The "Have-Nots" willl always bitch about those who have what they ain't got!
Just look around .... you'll see it everywhere and every day.
Thanks for your input, No One,
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How many Physique guys and gals on this GetBig Board.
ENZO, which photo is yours?