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Sorry... Im confused..????
I thought guns were illegal in Chicago ??? ??? ???
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LOVE how gun control laws work... we need more gun control laws.. lets GO gun control!!.... "Mr and Ms Amerika' .. turn em' all in"... it works so well...
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http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-chicago-shot-weekend-violence-20140707-story.html
Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Deadly Fourth of July weekend in Chicago: 82 shot, 14 killed
At least 82 people were shot during an 84-hour stretch between Thursday and 3:30 a.m. Monday.
Michael Muskal contact the reporter
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Death toll rises to 16 in spate of holiday weekend violence in Chicago
Overall homicides are down in Chicago, but city beset by violent weekend: 82 shot, 16 killed
The death toll from Chicago's bloody holiday rose on Tuesday to 16 after two men who had been shot over the Fourth of July weekend died from their wounds.
Over the course of 84 hours during the Independence Day holiday in Chicago, 82 people were shot, prompting calls from Mayor Rahm Emanuel to put a stop to gun violence in the city.
Related story: Bloody Chicago weekend raises questions about guns, gangs and morals
Related story: Bloody Chicago weekend raises questions about guns, gangs and morals
Michael Muskal
Many of the shootings, which began about 3:30 p.m. Thursday, took place in some of the most violent South Side neighborhoods. Five people were reportedly shot by Chicago police, including two who died. The higher death toll was reported Tuesday by the Chicago Tribune.
Speaking to an audience at the Miles Davis Magnet Academy on the city's South Side, Emanuel called for better policing, better education, stronger gun laws and “building a sense of community” to address the city’s gun violence.
“I ask all Chicagoans, regardless of where you live … end the gun violence in our city,” Emanuel said, in video captured by the Sun-Times. “Wherever you are, wherever you live, the gun violence that was part of this weekend is totally unacceptable.”
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Chicago has become the poster child for urban violence, fueled by gangs and involving drive-by shootings or attacks from cars on other vehicles. People of all ages have been shot on streets and in some cases while sitting on their porches. The weekend carnage is the greatest spate of gun violence so far this year, the Chicago Tribune reported.
Fourth of July is deadliest holiday weekend
Fourth of July is deadliest holiday weekend
Maya Srikrishnan
Yet homicides have actually been going down since 2012 when the city surpassed 500. By 2013, the number of homicides had fallen to 415, still the largest in the nation and substantially more than New York City, with less than 350 and Los Angeles at 255. When computed as the number of murders per 100,000 people, Detroit zooms to the top of the heap in a virtual tie with New Orleans. But Chicago still has the largest number of killings.
According to the Chicago Tribune, which keeps a tally of shooting victims, 1,129 have been shot so far this year in Chicago. According to the Tribune, there were 2,185 shooting victims in Chicago last year.
Last week, Chicago police reported that the number of homicides in Chicago fell during the first half of the year compared with the same period last year. This year, Chicago had 172 homicides through June 30 — nine fewer than the same period last year and 82 fewer than during the first six months of 2012.
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@Mcsu56 I have the feeling you are parroting talking points that you do not understand. Article III, Section 2 of the Constitution states “The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution ….” This is known as the Cases and Controversies Clause. If...
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In 2012, an armed gunman invaded a Colorado movie theater killing 12 and injuring 70. Later in the year, Adam Lanza attacked the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., killing 20 pupils and six educators before killing himself. Those and other mass murders touched off a call for greater control of gun violence. But Congress generally ignored lobbying by gun-control groups, though some of the states tightened their rules, including limiting the size of ammunition magazines and other steps to hinder the spread of weapons.
On Monday, the gun control group funded by former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg announced its latest campaign aimed at giving voters information as the nation heads into the mid-term election. The group is sending political candidates 10 questions on gun issues and will use the questionnaire to mobilize what it said will be 1 million Americans who back gun safety measures.
In May, Chicago’s City Council unanimously approved two measures to toughen gun laws. One law clarifies which types of assault weapons are banned.
“Chicago’s violence problem is largely a gun problem,” according to the May measure that toughened the city’s gun laws. “Every year, Chicago police officers take thousands of illegal guns off the street. But, despite these efforts, it remains far too easy for criminals to get their hands on deadly weapons.”
According to the city, from 2009 to 2013, 60% of the guns used to commit crimes in Chicago were originally bought out of state, mainly in Indiana, Mississippi and Wisconsin. Three of the top four sources for guns recovered in Chicago were gun dealers in Illinois cities near Chicago.
Not all of Chicago’s efforts have been successful. In January, a federal judge ruled that an outright ban on gun shops in Chicago was unconstitutional, citing the 2nd Amendment.
“The city of Chicago does not have a problem of too few guns,” Emanuel noted in May. “There are way too many guns from shops in Cook County and from neighboring states that come into the city of Chicago. On any given weekend, our police officers take more guns off the streets than either New York or L.A.”
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Chicago has 10 million people in it....
Case closed
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I'm glad they are killing each other off. Cheaper in the long run for the taxpayers.
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These kind of differences between Democratically run areas versus Republican areas says a lot.
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I'm glad they are killing each other off. Cheaper in the long run for the taxpayers.
We don't know the demographics of those killed....are you wishing that they were all black???
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We don't know the demographics of those killed....are you wishing that they were all black???
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We don't know the demographics of those killed....are you wishing that they were all black???
Mostly thugs and gang bangers - f em
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Chicago has 10 million people in it....
Case closed
We don't know the demographics of those killed....are you wishing that they were all black???
Are you seriously this ignorant? The shooters were minorities and you know it but you will always reflexively defend blacks instead of acknowledging the facts. By the way, there aren't ten million people in the city of Chicago.
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We don't know the demographics of those killed.
hahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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For a place Obama supposedly organized - the place looks like a complete wreck
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I love how the media completely ignores the 800lb gorilla in the room. They just keep their mouths shut and their heads in tbe sand and stick to promoting anti-gun headlines.
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I love how the media completely ignores the 800lb gorilla in the room. They just keep their mouths shut and their heads in tbe sand and stick to promoting anti-gun headlines.
It's a total scam but people like Vince will continue to believe George Zimmermans like figures are out in the streets targeting his black brothers. Vince and people like him live in an alternative reality where up is down and down is up.
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Are you seriously this ignorant? The shooters were minorities and you know it but you will always reflexively defend blacks instead of acknowledging the facts. By the way, there aren't ten million people in the city of Chicago.
How are you presuming to know the race of the shooters? That you would do that is an insult to the sacrosanct concept of due process which, a great man once said, is the cornerstone of our legal system. (lol, ok it was that humorless goof Archer on getbig.)
Seriously, though, I think there are about 10 million folks in the Chicago Metropolitan Area. (Chicagoland they calls it, I think.)
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For a place Obama supposedly organized - the place looks like a complete wreck
when did obama "organize" it? Did he manage police resources? Was he the sole "organizer"?
Would love to see what % of this crime is his fault.
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How are you presuming to know the race of the shooters? That you would do that is an insult to the sacrosanct concept of due process which, a great man once said, is the cornerstone of our legal system. (lol, ok it was that humorless goof Archer on getbig.)
Seriously, though, I think there are about 10 million folks in the Chicago Metropolitan Area. (Chicagoland they calls it, I think.)
stop it. just stop it. they were ALL inner city black youths killing each other. I think literally ALL of them. long weekend. hot out. they shoot each other. it just is what it is. bleeding heart liberals try to believe that this is not the case. but it just is.
young black men are killing each other at an incredible rate out here. its a shame. im not saying this to be racist. im saying it because its true. most religious black leaders aren't afraid to admit it. there are rallies all the time about stopping black on black crime. it gets no press simply because it emboldens racist assholes who hate black people. but it is true that most blacks are murdered by other blacks because one of them spray painted their sign over another's. that's literally why they shoot each other most of the time. turf wars. it's disgusting and sad.
I have about 6-7 close family members who are CPD. its a mess on the west side and south side. and yes we have some of the strictest gun laws in the country. the worst part of what they see every day isn't the crime necessarily (though its pretty bad in some areas) but the blatant and rampant abuse of the welfare system. you'd be sick if you heard some of the stories. i'm not commenting about welfare anywhere else in the country except Chicago, because that's all I know. but I assume other states have to deal with the same type of abuse.
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Sure Vince...between all the gun violence in cities like Detroit and Chicago and the high abortion rate amongst African Americans, collectively... black people are well on the way to achieving the Ku Klux Klan's vision for an African free America.
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Sure Vince...between all the gun violence in cities like Detroit and Chicago and the high abortion rate amongst African Americans, collectively... black people are well on the way to achieving the Ku Klux Klan's vision for an African free America.
that's another thing that doesn't get a lot of press. how much the black religious leaders HATE Planned Parenthood. it's something like 80% of planned parenthood abortion clinics are located in black neighborhoods. huge cash cow for them.
but no one talks about it. most just choose blissful ignorance. because again, what is a liberal who defends everything abortion supposed to do? criticize a black religious leader and call him ignorant? they don't do that. they don't start wars unless its with a WHITE conservative. that's why you never see gay people protesting at a Baptist church on the West Side of Chicago. but you see them marching on into the white suburbs and doing it all the time.
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How are you presuming to know the race of the shooters? That you would do that is an insult to the sacrosanct concept of due process which, a great man once said, is the cornerstone of our legal system. (lol, ok it was that humorless goof Archer on getbig.)
Seriously, though, I think there are about 10 million folks in the Chicago Metropolitan Area. (Chicagoland they calls it, I think.)
It is a well known fact that in chicago, blacks are 33% of the population but commit something like 70+% of the city's murders. Virtually all these chicago 'shootings' are gang related. Look into it and you will see.
Yet every single one of these articles frames it from the gun control perspective, as if it were white NRA members and their evil guns that were gunning down totally innocent families having picnics or some shit, when everyone knows its black gangs killing black gangs with black market obtained weapons.
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How are you presuming to know the race of the shooters? That you would do that is an insult to the sacrosanct concept of due process which, a great man once said, is the cornerstone of our legal system. (lol, ok it was that humorless goof Archer on getbig.)
Seriously, though, I think there are about 10 million folks in the Chicago Metropolitan Area. (Chicagoland they calls it, I think.)
to be fair though don't take this as me saying "black people are bad". they don't shoot people because they're black. they shoot people because its a culture that they came up in. ghettos with thugs and gangbangers are in every part of the world. black, white, brown, yellow.
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How are you presuming to know the race of the shooters? That you would do that is an insult to the sacrosanct concept of due process which, a great man once said, is the cornerstone of our legal system. (lol, ok it was that humorless goof Archer on getbig.)
Seriously, though, I think there are about 10 million folks in the Chicago Metropolitan Area. (Chicagoland they calls it, I think.)
The likelihood the shooters were black is astronomical. When you look at the shooting statistics in Chicago and where the shootings over the 4th occurred, it becomes pretty clear. Again, calling names is another example of one of your numerous tantrums. You literally are incapable of conducting yourself like someone of your age.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/01/02/us/chicago-killings.html?_r=0
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Chicago has 10 million people in it....
Case closed
There is no city in America with ten million people. Chicago population is 2.7 million.
https://www.google.com/#q=chicago+population
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There is no city in America with ten million people. Chicago population is 2.7 million.
https://www.google.com/#q=chicago+population
Actually, NYC is 8.4 million americans + 1.6 million "undocumented" aliens that are here thanks to many acts of love.
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Actually, NYC is 8.4 million americans + 1.6 million "undocumented" aliens that are here thanks to many acts of love.
I wish they all would shoot each othert
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I wish they all would shoot each othert
they need more guns. however, "bloomberg 2012" won't let them carry weapons. I cannot believe the dems ever elected that dude.
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they need more guns. however, "bloomberg 2012" won't let them carry weapons. I cannot believe the dems ever elected that dude.
The more the ghetto apes kill each other off the better
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There is no city in America with ten million people. Chicago population is 2.7 million.
https://www.google.com/#q=chicago+population
I hate those 'city limits' population numbers because while technically true, they are extremely misleading as to the actual size of a city for all practical purposes. Chicago popluation within the strict lines of the city proper is 2.7 million, but the actual population of the urban conglomeration known as 'chicago' is very close to 10 million.
Both LA and New York both have vastly more than 10 million people realistically.
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stop it. just stop it. they were ALL inner city black youths killing each other. I think literally ALL of them. long weekend. hot out. they shoot each other. it just is what it is. bleeding heart liberals try to believe that this is not the case. but it just is.
young black men are killing each other at an incredible rate out here. its a shame. im not saying this to be racist. im saying it because its true. most religious black leaders aren't afraid to admit it. there are rallies all the time about stopping black on black crime. it gets no press simply because it emboldens racist assholes who hate black people. but it is true that most blacks are murdered by other blacks because one of them spray painted their sign over another's. that's literally why they shoot each other most of the time. turf wars. it's disgusting and sad.
I have about 6-7 close family members who are CPD. its a mess on the west side and south side. and yes we have some of the strictest gun laws in the country. the worst part of what they see every day isn't the crime necessarily (though its pretty bad in some areas) but the blatant and rampant abuse of the welfare system. you'd be sick if you heard some of the stories. i'm not commenting about welfare anywhere else in the country except Chicago, because that's all I know. but I assume other states have to deal with the same type of abuse.
Oh, I agree that it's reasonable that the general assumptions about the great majority of the shooters and victims in question is correct. I'm just tweaking Archer for being somewhat of a hypocrite.
Seems like he likes to pick and choose when to make otherwise reasonable assumptions based on his on biases and prejudices.
Let me quibble with one part of your post, though. So the worst thing your CPD peoples see is abuse of the welfare system? Really? No mention of how fucked up it must be for young kids and otherwise innocent folks to live among that craziness? I know what I would think is worse, but the CPD doesn't exactly have the reputation of being a sympathetic bunch either, I guess.
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to be fair though don't take this as me saying "black people are bad". they don't shoot people because they're black. they shoot people because its a culture that they came up in. ghettos with thugs and gangbangers are in every part of the world. black, white, brown, yellow.
Agree 100%.
I don't always agree with your posts but they always seem to be well reasoned so I like them. No homo. lol
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The likelihood the shooters were black is astronomical. When you look at the shooting statistics in Chicago and where the shootings over the 4th occurred, it becomes pretty clear. Again, calling names is another example of one of your numerous tantrums. You literally are incapable of conducting yourself like someone of your age.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/01/02/us/chicago-killings.html?_r=0
Uh, which of Archer's personalities am I talking to now?
I hope it's one who realizes that it's just laughable for him to try to criticize me for some name-calling after he alleged that I had raped a 5-year old boy.
In my book that pretty much gave me license to mess with you for all eternity. lol
Any comment you'd care to make about that, crazy guy?
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Uh, which of Archer's personalities am I talking to now?
I hope it's one who realizes that it's just laughable for him to try to criticize me for some name-calling after he alleged that I had raped a 5-year old boy.
In my book that pretty much gave me license to mess with you for all eternity. lol
Any comment you'd care to make about that, crazy guy?
I was only mocking your idiotic belief that rape charges dont need proof to be true. And even before that I called you on your childish tantrums. What makes your tantrums even funnier is that you actually had the nerve to accuse another member of behaving exactly the same way you do. You have zero self awareness. Its comical but also very sad considering how old you are. Its a miracle you've lived as long as you have.
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if only we could sector off these thugs and let them all kill each other off
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if only we could sector off these thugs and let them all kill each other off
We could
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I was only mocking your idiotic belief that rape charges dont need proof to be true. And even before that I called you on your childish tantrums. What makes your tantrums even funnier is that you actually had the nerve to accuse another member of behaving exactly the same way you do. You have zero self awareness. Its comical but also very sad considering how old you are. Its a miracle you've lived as long as you have.
Rape "charges?" Against whom? Wrong word, imo. for no one was being charged. How do you not get that?
Man, for a statistics hobbyist (lol), you're kind of thick.
Look, if I tell someone (NOT LE) that I was robbed, am I making a "charge"? (Answer is, "Hell no".)
It's fair for one to argue that such a person shouldn't be believed, of course. (And a misogynist like yourself likely will, lol.)
But issues like due process absolutely do not come into play because no one in particular is being accused of anything.
Ya follow?
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Oh, I agree that it's reasonable that the general assumptions about the great majority of the shooters and victims in question is correct. I'm just tweaking Archer for being somewhat of a hypocrite.
Seems like he likes to pick and choose when to make otherwise reasonable assumptions based on his on biases and prejudices.
Let me quibble with one part of your post, though. So the worst thing your CPD peoples see is abuse of the welfare system? Really? No mention of how fucked up it must be for young kids and otherwise innocent folks to live among that craziness? I know what I would think is worse, but the CPD doesn't exactly have the reputation of being a sympathetic bunch either, I guess.
for the most part we cant control people killing other people. you take poor and uneducated people and you're going to have crime. period.
what we can control is giving money to people who can go out and get it for themselves. we're not helping these communities with these handouts. we are hurting them. this is something I truly believe.
welfare is there to keep poor people poor and at the same time keep them somewhat compliant.
I say that's the worst thing because this is something we are doing TO these people. not FOR them.
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Rape "charges?" Against whom? Wrong word, imo. for no one was being charged. How do you not get that?
Man, for a statistics hobbyist (lol), you're kind of thick.
Look, if I tell someone (NOT LE) that I was robbed, am I making a "charge"? (Answer is, "Hell no".)
It's fair for one to argue that such a person shouldn't be believed, of course. (And a misogynist like yourself likely will, lol.)
But issues like due process absolutely do not come into play because no one in particular is being accused of anything.
Ya follow?
You're the thick one. Nothing you're rambling on about is the least bit relevent. You dont even remember what you said correctly. Total lack of self awareness is a sad condition. Senior moment or are you just that stupid? Could it be a senior moment compounding an already preexisting stupidty. I suspect the latter. At this point youre just babbling like an old fool with only a few marbles left rolling around in his head. I suspect your response will be another one of your internet tantrums. Wah wah little baby man.
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You're the thick one. Nothing you're rambling on about is the least bit relevent. You dont even remember what you said correctly. Total lack of self awareness is a sad condition. Senior moment or are you just that stupid? Could it be a senior moment compounding an already preexisting stupidty. I suspect the latter. At this point youre just babbling like an old fool with only a few marbles left rolling around in his head. I suspect your response will be another one of your internet tantrums. Wah wah little baby man.
Dodge, dodge, deflection.
Well done.
You are clearly a serious person. lol
BTW, I count 3 misspellings in your post. Does that mean you were having a tantrum when you wrote it?
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Dodge, dodge, deflection.
Well done.
You are clearly a serious person. lol
BTW, I count 3 misspellings in your post. Does that mean you were having a tantrum when you wrote it?
No dodging or deflecting. Ive explained my position to you repeatedly but you are incapable of understanding. Having a rational adult discussion is something you've repeatedly shown yourself incapable of having. You act like a child so that is how I'm going to treat you. It amazes me that a man as old as you are acts the way you do.
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No dodging or deflecting. Ive explained my position to you repeatedly but you are incapable of understanding. Having a rational adult discussion is something you've repeatedly shown yourself incapable of having. You act like a child so that is how I'm going to treat you. It amazes me that a man as old as you are acts the way you do.
Nah, you never explained how depriving anyone of due process made sense after I pointed out that no one in particular was being charged with anything. You simply made some noise about how due process is the cornerstone of blah, blah, blah...
Really, if you have a compelling argument, you should make it. I'm not at all too proud to admit it when I'm wrong.
But if that's too much trouble, you can rationalize your unwillingness to argue your position any way you want and I'll just laugh because we both know what the real deal is.
As for you calling me childish, that's a laugh since it's clearly a case of the pot calling the kettle a child-rapist, isn't it? lol
(Especially funny in light of the fact that you're trying to say that I'm the one who lacks self-awareness, lol.)
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Nah, you never explained how depriving anyone of due process made sense after I pointed out that no one in particular was being charged with anything. You simply made some noise about how due process is the cornerstone of blah, blah, blah...
Really, if you have a compelling argument, you should make it. I'm not at all too proud to admit it when I'm wrong.
But if that's too much trouble, you can rationalize your unwillingness to argue your position any way you want and I'll just laugh because we both know what the real deal is.
As for you calling me childish, that's a laugh since it's clearly a case of the pot calling the kettle a child-rapist, isn't it? lol
(Especially funny in light of the fact that you're trying to say that I'm the one who lacks self-awareness, lol.)
Again, the irony is that you are describing yourself. I called you a child rapist because I was mocking your idiocy. According to your idiotic way of thinking, an unverifiable accusation is automatically true.
Im going to explain this to you one last time. If youre striving for statistical accuracy, you shouldn't include unreported rapes in the total number of rapes because you cant substantiate the veracity of the accusation. You on the other hand believe that the accusation is proof enough. Ive explained this to you repeatedly but you cant seem to grasp the concept.
I noticed you dodged this reply entirely.
The likelihood the shooters were black is astronomical. When you look at the shooting statistics in Chicago and where the shootings over the 4th occurred, it becomes pretty clear. Again, calling names is another example of one of your numerous tantrums. You literally are incapable of conducting yourself like someone of your age.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/01/02/us/chicago-killings.html?_r=0
Instead you decide to change the subject and imply that its I who started the hostility. You cant even stay on topic. The fact is, you started the hostility by behaving like a frustrated child and lashing out when you didnt get your way.
Uh, which of Archer's personalities am I talking to now?
I hope it's one who realizes that it's just laughable for him to try to criticize me for some name-calling after he alleged that I had raped a 5-year old boy.
In my book that pretty much gave me license to mess with you for all eternity. lol
Any comment you'd care to make about that, crazy guy?
Im being serious when I say that you are one of the most dense and disturbed individuals on this board.
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Again, the irony is that you are describing yourself. I called you a child rapist because I was mocking your idiocy.
LOL. I believe you were trying to mock me by saying that I had raped a 5-year old child...but please realize that it's gonna be pretty hard for anyone much less me to take you seriously when you complain about name-calling or any other claims about being offended by immature speech of any kind.
According to your idiotic way of thinking, an unverifiable accusation is automatically true.
Automatically true? No, I'm not saying that. But I am saying that a woman's claim to having been sexually assaulted some time after having failed to report it to LE has value for the purposes of studying the frequency of sexual assault, especially when the study seeks to include information about the frequency of assaults that were unreported to LE.
Would you really think it's appropriate for social scientists to collectively just throw up their hands and say, "We can't prove that these women aren't lying so this subject can't be studied."?
Look mang, I'm hardly the only one who thinks that unreported rapes CAN be studied:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics)
According to the American Medical Association (1995), sexual violence, and rape in particular, is considered the most under-reported violent crime.[9][10]
The most common reasons given by victims for not reporting rapes are the belief that it is a personal or private matter, and that they fear reprisal from the assailant. A 2007 British government report says "Estimates from research suggest that between 75 and 95 percent of rape crimes are never reported to the police."
http://news.ku.edu/2014/03/03/law-professor-more-1-million-rapes-unreported-official-us-crime-statistics (http://news.ku.edu/2014/03/03/law-professor-more-1-million-rapes-unreported-official-us-crime-statistics)
Law professor: More than 1 million rapes unreported in official U.S. crime statistics
Fri, 03/07/2014
LAWRENCE — More than 1 million rape cases have gone undocumented across the United States during the past two decades, according to research by a University of Kansas law professor. The chronic under-reporting happened during what was widely considered a “great decline” in violent crime.
Corey Rayburn Yung, associate professor of law, has authored “How to Lie with Rape Statistics: America’s Hidden Rape Crisis.” The article, which will appear in the Iowa Law Review, details Yung’s review of crime data from 1995 to 2012, which shows that by conservative estimates, nearly 1.2 million rapes disappeared from the official record. Yung analyzed data from the FBI’s Uniform Crime Report, which collects data from nearly every police department in the country, and is commonly used by policy makers, media and law enforcement as a picture of crime prevalence in the United States.
Yung has taught and conducted research in rape and crime law and noticed inconsistencies in the number of rapes reported in a number of cities. Raw numbers of rapes were much lower in some cities than raw numbers of murders, which raised red flags as murder is a less common crime. Yung then learned of media investigations in Baltimore, New Orleans, St. Louis and Philadelphia that documented cases of police departments under-reporting rape statistics.
“Originally I was trying to reconcile why the data was showing such anomalies,” Yung said of the impetus of his paper. “Then I found out about the four cities with documented cases of under-reported rapes, and the more I looked the more red flags there were. There were a number of cities where the numbers didn’t make sense.”
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I can cite many, many more examples from what most would think are fairly unbiased sources confirming what anyone familiar with other humans could guess; Women who've been sexually assaulted will not go to the police at the same rate as they would for almost any other crime.
Im going to explain this to you one last time. If youre striving for statistical accuracy, you shouldn't include unreported rapes in the total number of rapes because you cant substantiate the veracity of the accusation. You on the other hand believe that the accusation is proof enough. Ive explained this to you repeatedly but you cant seem to grasp the concept.
Oh, I grasp what you're trying to say. I just think you're likely talking out of your ass. What I'd like you to do is support your opinion. Cite some statistical bylaws or the like that state that there's a hard and fast rule against using first-hand verbal testimony of some experience in a statistical study of the frequency of that sort of experience. (This shouldn't be that hard for someone who proclaims that statistics is a personal hobby, should it?)
I noticed you dodged this reply entirely.
You're referring to your assumption that you know the race of the folks involved in the gun violence in Chicago over the weekend and, holy shit, that whooshing sound over your head must get annoying sometimes, doesn't it?
Did you really not see my reply to Bears where I said that I agree with him (and you) that your assumption about the majority of the folks in Chicago was correct? As I wrote to him, I questioned you about your assumption because I wanted to point out that you seem to be inconsistent about what you'll believe with no proof.
Go ahead and read my reply to him again and if you really have questions and still rather laughably think I'm dodging, just let me know and I'll answer any other questions you have about the subject.
Instead you decide to change the subject and imply that its I who started the hostility. You cant even stay on topic. The fact is, you started the hostility by behaving like a frustrated child and lashing out when you didnt get your way.
It's possible that I was a dick to you before you were a dick to me but, c'mon, this is getbig. And for someone who throws around accusations of being a frustrated child as easily as you do, you sure cry a lot. Shee-it, man up, Archer.
Also, and I almost forgot about this, how can you accuse me of being a "frustrated child and lashing out" when you are the one who was so butthurt that you went through my post history looking for ammo. This was completely obvious when you started mentioning my age (I'm 50), which is something that I've mentioned maybe twice on this board and not so recently. It is to laugh, honestly.
Im being serious when I say that you are one of the most dense and disturbed individuals on this board.
Eh, whateva. I think you're gonna live despite being a too-sensitive guy who got his feelings hurt and is angrily trying his hardest to return the favor. Good luck with that, lol.
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We don't know the demographics of those killed....are you wishing that they were all black???
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Yes we do Vince