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Title: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: Skorp1o on July 11, 2014, 09:19:48 AM
Bodybuilder collapsed and died after being told to drink industrial pesticide to lose weight making his temperature soar to 42C

Sean Cleathero died after drinking toxic pesticide at a High Wycombe gym Jamie Chivers, Jason King and Peter Purkins are accused of manslaughter Chivers, King and Purkins, all from Buckinghamshire, deny the charge Allegedly produced the Dinitrophenol (DNP) and supplied it to Mr Cleathero After consuming the DNP, Mr Cleathero's temperature soared to 42C

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2684903/Bodybuilder-collapsed-died-told-drink-industrial-pesticide-lose-weight-making-temperature-soar-42C.html#ixzz37B3sISuI

Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: Skorp1o on July 11, 2014, 09:24:22 AM
We always said it...want to lose weight? put the fekin fork down and do some cardio, how hard can it be?

People want to eat like shit and lose weight and get abs
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: bigmc on July 11, 2014, 09:26:04 AM
We always said it...want to lose weight? put the fekin fork down and do some cardio, how hard can it be?

People want to eat like shit and lose weight and get abs

Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: Skorp1o on July 11, 2014, 09:30:58 AM
I've looking forward to the day that pic gets used on me  8)
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: no one on July 11, 2014, 09:34:32 AM

I've used it 3 different times.

there's no doubt it works but the sides make it goddamn intolerable.
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: the trainer on July 11, 2014, 09:44:38 AM
I've used it 3 different times.

there's no doubt it works but the sides make it goddamn intolerable.

Why the fuck would you use something like that, suffer with cardio and diet and take some gh you lazy ass.
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: Archer77 on July 11, 2014, 09:46:04 AM
The supplier I used in the early 2000's was the one who sold the DNP to the idiot college kid who used to much and died.
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: no one on July 11, 2014, 09:48:03 AM
Why the fuck would you use something like that, suffer with cardio and diet and take some gh you lazy ass.

who the fuck are you to talk to me- from here on in you'll address me as 'Sir' or 'His Eminence'

know your role here boy as a non entity which has an due date of aug 6th.
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: SuperTed on July 11, 2014, 10:01:17 AM
I've used it 3 different times.

there's no doubt it works but the sides make it goddamn intolerable.

What were the side effects you felt?
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: bigmc on July 12, 2014, 02:43:22 AM
What were the side effects you felt?

the worst one is death

no amount of adjustments can rectify that
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: MONSTER_TRICEPS on July 12, 2014, 02:58:59 AM
Seeing that it is a pesticide, death is actually it's main effect. Weightloss is a side effect.  ;D
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: wolfrittner on July 12, 2014, 03:09:51 AM
 DNP overdose is the worst way to die. I do feel sorry for the guy, his last hours must have been absolute horror!
I would never use it. I rather do coke or speed then this crap!I heard that even your cloth turn orange from the sweet. lol
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: wolfrittner on July 12, 2014, 03:12:31 AM
who the fuck are you to talk to me- from here on in you'll address me as 'Sir' or 'His Eminence'

know your role here boy as a non entity which has an due date of aug 6th.
:D :D
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: wolfrittner on July 12, 2014, 03:13:36 AM
We always said it...want to lose weight? put the fekin fork down and do some cardio, how hard can it be?

People want to eat like shit and lose weight and get abs
Are you saying it doesn't work like this?  ;D
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: Deacon Jeschin on July 12, 2014, 04:04:03 AM
Moderation is the key here......

Who hasn't come home after a hard day of work, wolfed down a few urinal cakes, and enjoyed a glass of weed-n-feed?

You just have to know when to put down the chemical container.......
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: Lustral on July 12, 2014, 04:08:07 AM
What were the side effects you felt?

You feel mildly ill all the time while on it (9-15 days is a normal cycle)

You sweat. MDMA makes you perspire lightly in comparison, your mattress will be destroyed after a few days, you will need to change clothes frequently during the day completely soaking them in sweat. If you sleep on a towel it will be soaked within minutes. You can't sleep at all, so you take ephedrine to stay somewhat awake.

Everything turns yellow. Your eyes, your piss goes electric green, your cum goes yellow.

You can eat what you want, carbs make the sweating more intense, but training is an ordeal and you will hardly be able to do it.

You hold water, don't feel thirsty yet you have to drink loads of water due to the sweating. Taking glycerol also helps.

In short, you feel like death, but after two weeks you look like you've been strict dieting for two months.
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: Darren Avey on July 12, 2014, 05:39:12 AM
This is the girl charged with conspiracy to supply.She trained at my old gym, the sadly now no longer here Castle gym.

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Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: Simple Simon on July 12, 2014, 05:47:45 AM
who the fuck are you to talk to me- from here on in you'll address me as 'Sir' or 'His Eminence'

know your role here boy as a non entity which has an due date of aug 6th.
or thereabouts.
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: Rambone on July 12, 2014, 10:23:45 AM
Where can I get some of this magical weight loss elixir?
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: no one on July 12, 2014, 10:39:11 AM
You feel mildly ill all the time while on it (9-15 days is a normal cycle)

You sweat. MDMA makes you perspire lightly in comparison, your mattress will be destroyed after a few days, you will need to change clothes frequently during the day completely soaking them in sweat. If you sleep on a towel it will be soaked within minutes. You can't sleep at all, so you take ephedrine to stay somewhat awake.

Everything turns yellow. Your eyes, your piss goes electric green, your cum goes yellow.

You can eat what you want, carbs make the sweating more intense, but training is an ordeal and you will hardly be able to do it.

You hold water, don't feel thirsty yet you have to drink loads of water due to the sweating. Taking glycerol also helps.

In short, you feel like death, but after two weeks you look like you've been strict dieting for two months.

vg post. 

the lethargy was intolerable as well. just walking took amazing effort. it feels like your walking under water. other than that I can't add to this post very excellent description dude.

Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: Complex Carbs on July 12, 2014, 12:21:24 PM
Fat people are equally disgusting, repulsive and funny.

They will always think of what magic tablet can be used, instead of getting the basics sorted out.


And this guy must have been a daft wanker too, look at his "dealer" that fat, bloated cow, does she look like someone you'd hire for a fat loss pill sales promotion?

Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: ENZO on July 12, 2014, 12:58:39 PM
Another steroid shithead off the streets

Oops forgot to log in my bodybuilder lex reeves gimmick
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: nasum on July 12, 2014, 01:01:08 PM
I've used a fair amount of DNP. I seem to recall using it on at least 3 separate occasions. In doses as high as 1000mg (there wasn't any point to doing this, I just wanted to see what the highest non-lethal dose felt like).

It is definitely the best fat burning compound available but the lethargy is so extreme I could barely work out using it. The discomfort experienced from sweating putrid yellow viscous secretions constantly and feeling nauseated from the gastric irritation, simply unable to cool down despite walking around outside in winter in a t-shirt is quite simply put like living hell. At the extreme doses it is a level of personal discomfort far beyond any diet, no matter how strict the calorie restriction.

I would not use it again. I was curious, nothing more.

If anyone decides on using it, I would only take 250mg a day and stick to that doses for slightly longer (say 2 weeks), than trying to run higher doses for longer periods of time and essentially becoming non-functional. Also, I felt like at higher doses the rate of muscle loss was higher than what one would expect from dieting normally. It makes sense because the metabolic overdrive would mandate indiscriminate tissue catabolism. I wouldn't run it without anabolic steroids.

As a natty DNP will just make you emaciated.
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: Roger Bacon on July 12, 2014, 01:38:45 PM
Serious question:

Why is anyone responsible but the fool who drank it? Did they physically force him to? Did they make him an idiot?

???
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: Simple Simon on July 12, 2014, 01:39:39 PM
Serious question:

Why is anyone responsible but the fool who drank it? Did they physically force him to? Did they make him an idiot?

???
That isnt a serious question, that is idiotic to say the least.
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: Lustral on July 12, 2014, 01:45:25 PM
I've used a fair amount of DNP. I seem to recall using it on at least 3 separate occasions. In doses as high as 1000mg (there wasn't any point to doing this, I just wanted to see what the highest non-lethal dose felt like).

It is definitely the best fat burning compound available but the lethargy is so extreme I could barely work out using it. The discomfort experienced from sweating putrid yellow viscous secretions constantly and feeling nauseated from the gastric irritation, simply unable to cool down despite walking around outside in winter in a t-shirt is quite simply put like living hell. At the extreme doses it is a level of personal discomfort far beyond any diet, no matter how strict the calorie restriction.

I would not use it again. I was curious, nothing more.

If anyone decides on using it, I would only take 250mg a day and stick to that doses for slightly longer (say 2 weeks), than trying to run higher doses for longer periods of time and essentially becoming non-functional. Also, I felt like at higher doses the rate of muscle loss was higher than what one would expect from dieting normally. It makes sense because the metabolic overdrive would mandate indiscriminate tissue catabolism. I wouldn't run it without anabolic steroids.

As a natty DNP will just make you emaciated.

I know people who ran 200mg just taking 1/night for 2 weeks on 2 weeks off and repeating. Fuck that, take 400 then 600mg if you can hack it. Get it over and done with. 1000mg feels same as 600mg, you just have to be careful because iirc it has a 36 hour half life so the dose will accumulate higher and higher for first week.

If you deal with people in any capacity for work, do not take it. My friend was working in the stock exchange when he took it and was sent home sick a few days. I don't know how he did it in a suit, it would be destroyed. Shorts and t-shirt while on a college break was hard enough.
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: Roger Bacon on July 12, 2014, 01:50:07 PM
That isnt a serious question, that is idiotic to say the least.

Because adults in our society can no longer be trusted to run their own lives correctly and not drink poison?  ???

I could certainly understand prosecuting them if he was underage, mentally challenged, or otherwise forced.

I'm not saying these guys aren't fucking scum bags...
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: Complex Carbs on July 12, 2014, 01:51:14 PM
Serious question:

Why is anyone responsible but the fool who drank it? Did they physically force him to? Did they make him an idiot?

???
Heroin dealers.

Why should they be held responsible?
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: Roger Bacon on July 12, 2014, 01:56:19 PM
Heroin dealers.

Why should they be held responsible?

DNP is a legitimate industrial pesticide, Heroine has no legitimate use and it's an illegal Schedule I drug.
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: Lustral on July 12, 2014, 01:59:30 PM
Heroin dealers.

Why should they be held responsible?

Same as coke dealers they only look for them when a celebrity or middle class person, usually a good looking girl, dies.
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 12, 2014, 03:04:49 PM
The supplier I used in the early 2000's was the one who sold the DNP to the idiot college kid who used to much and died.

DNP Guru, DNPdynamite, DNP-X, and a few others was the usernames of the mod from EF that was charged in that death.
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: Lustral on July 12, 2014, 03:06:04 PM
DNP Guru, DNPdynamite, DNP-X, and a few others was the usernames of the mod from EF that was charged in that death.

You can buy DNP for $28/kg from China, it is also legal to import in powder form.
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: tommywishbone on July 12, 2014, 03:27:55 PM
His core temp was 42c or 116f ?   Well he wouldn't need a sweater.
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 12, 2014, 03:47:41 PM
You can buy DNP for $28/kg from China, it is also legal to import in powder form.

There are some that carry it in small low dose tablet form now.  no messy capsules
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: Lustral on July 12, 2014, 03:50:05 PM
His core temp was 42c or 116f ?   Well he wouldn't need a sweater.

I had a temp of 42C when I had pneumonia in my blood (I ignored it for over a week). You would be so out of it you wouldn't know, I was in a  wheelchair shortly after entering hospital and was dazed.
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: Competitor 9 on July 12, 2014, 06:59:42 PM
You feel mildly ill all the time while on it (9-15 days is a normal cycle)

You sweat. MDMA makes you perspire lightly in comparison, your mattress will be destroyed after a few days, you will need to change clothes frequently during the day completely soaking them in sweat. If you sleep on a towel it will be soaked within minutes. You can't sleep at all, so you take ephedrine to stay somewhat awake.

Everything turns yellow. Your eyes, your piss goes electric green, your cum goes yellow.

You can eat what you want, carbs make the sweating more intense, but training is an ordeal and you will hardly be able to do it.

You hold water, don't feel thirsty yet you have to drink loads of water due to the sweating. Taking glycerol also helps.

In short, you feel like death, but after two weeks you look like you've been strict dieting for two months.


Exactly right! To a tee. The thirsty part is strange your not thirsty but you can never drink engough fluids to ever feel satisfied. Yes your eye and Cum turn yellow.. Your piss is like neon yellow.. And I sweat/burn out as much as 7lbs of water a night  every night
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: thulsaDOOM210 on July 12, 2014, 08:26:26 PM
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 author=Navy_Mike link=topic=542170.msg7605741#msg7605741 date=1405216782]

Exactly right! To a tee. The thirsty part is strange your not thirsty but you can never drink engough fluids to ever feel satisfied. Yes your eye and Cum turn yellow.. Your piss is like neon yellow.. And I sweat/burn out as much as 7lbs of water a night  every night
[/quote]

Dude you seem like  a good dude. Don't take that shit.  How do you know its dosed properly?
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: Competitor 9 on July 12, 2014, 09:19:43 PM
Dude you seem like  a good dude. Don't take that shit.  How do you know its dosed properly?

It's just somthing I wanted to try.. Had a recommendation from a guy I trust and got some at 125mg a pill work my way up slowly to 500mgs a day..

I just wanted to see what all the talk was about. It works really well and drops wieght like crazy. Is say it's a great thing to use about 2 weeks in the start of your prep just to lean out a good amount.

I'm always smart with anything I take and always error on the side of caution
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on July 12, 2014, 09:21:09 PM
The only BB drug I for the life of me can't understand why guys use. Hell I even "get" the guys who synthol and touch up their weak parts the night before a show. But this....fuck DNP
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: phreak on July 13, 2014, 02:17:03 AM
There are some that carry it in small low dose tablet form now.  no messy capsules
tablets suck, especially for those who cannot just swallow everything easily. The yellowing will affect your teeth then. Always use caps.
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: phreak on July 13, 2014, 02:21:39 AM
The only BB drug I for the life of me can't understand why guys use. Hell I even "get" the guys who synthol and touch up their weak parts the night before a show. But this....fuck DNP
It's not ideal, but also not as dangerous as some make it out to be. Yes, ODing will kill you, like many legal meds will.

Also, there is no need to take a lot. 200-250 daily is enough to notice serious differences in fat loss, yet keeping the sides to a minimum. Overall I liked 250 daily much better than 1000 mg, and the results weren't all that different. With high doses the emphasis shifts too much from fat loss to weight loss.
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: nasht5 on July 13, 2014, 03:59:36 AM
2-3mg per kg of bodyweight was a "conservative" dose recommended by dan duchaine

4-6mg per kg of bodyweight was experimented for a few days by anthony roberts

5-8mg per kg of bodyweight was a top end dose discussed by dan duchaine in his dirty dieting newsletter

DNP will kill you if you don't know what your doing. the idiot who thinks "if this is good so more must be better" is the idiot who dies.

research it before you do it. I've done it before and it works even at a moderate dose.
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: Lustral on July 13, 2014, 06:34:47 AM
2-3mg per kg of bodyweight was a "conservative" dose recommended by dan duchaine

4-6mg per kg of bodyweight was experimented for a few days by anthony roberts

5-8mg per kg of bodyweight was a top end dose discussed by dan duchaine in his dirty dieting newsletter

DNP will kill you if you don't know what your doing. the idiot who thinks "if this is good so more must be better" is the idiot who dies.

research it before you do it. I've done it before and it works even at a moderate dose.

I must have had about 20 A4 pages on dosages, cycling, what to take (glycerol), half-life, what to expect etc. Most idiots wouldn't know what they were getting themselves into. I wouldn't touch it now.

We also made our own 200mg capsules. Latex gloves, stained pill tray and destroyed table cover should give some idea what your insides are going to look like on it. If you really hated someone throwing this in a washing machine with their clothes would piss them right off.
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: nasum on July 13, 2014, 06:38:22 AM
The only BB drug I for the life of me can't understand why guys use. Hell I even "get" the guys who synthol and touch up their weak parts the night before a show. But this....fuck DNP

It literally only kills idiots.

The side effects can be brutal, but the health consequences of DNP use are fairly negligible (assuming you don't die from it). It may cause cataract formation, but this is likely due to excessive free radical production causing deterioration of the mechanism that allows the fibres that form the lens tissue of the eye to remain in a persistent state of dehydration (dehydration allows the lens to remain transparent, which as far as I'm aware is the only tissue in the body that *only* functions when it is dehydrated).

In animal studies antioxidant therapy prevented cataract formation from DNP usage (high dose vitamin C).

Apart from death, cataract formation is the only significant long term side effect of DNP usage. Compare it to something like clenbuterol which actively accelerates collagen deposition in the cardiac musculature (essentially accelerating the process that leads to heart failure) *AND* is actively arrhythmiogenic through stimulation of the beta adnergic pathway and through collagen deposition in the heart wall leading to interference with the electrical conduction of the heart.

I personally don't believe in fat burning compounds at all. But clenbuterol use is widespread and yet people seem more keen to condemn DNP usage, imo, the reverse should apply (but not everyone is capable of using it safely). I even heard of a medical student who managed to kill herself by combining it with other drugs (or possibly just a primary DNP overdose), so not just lay people are stupid it seems.
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: Roger Bacon on July 13, 2014, 06:40:49 AM
the health consequences of DNP use are fairly negligible (assuming you don't die from it).

Classic getbig  ;D
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: Lustral on July 13, 2014, 06:42:28 AM
For anyone who doesn't know the history of DNP, they noticed that factory workers producing it were becoming ripped, probably from the fumes or ingesting tiny amounts, so they marketed it for weight loss. Then, as you could guess, some fat French pig, among others, followed the "if this much makes me lose 1lb of fat a day, I'll take three times that...."

Any substance with a relatively low ld50 when combined with idiots will end in deaths.
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: MAXX on July 13, 2014, 06:48:21 AM
Idk it's a poison. I'm sure there has to be other serious sides other than the risks of od'ing and death

this shit is for fat pigs with no willpower. I'll just continue hardcore keto diet
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 13, 2014, 07:30:55 AM
Of course you feel like shit while on it.  You are SUPPOSED to feel like shit.  It's a poison for God's sake.
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: Simple Simon on July 13, 2014, 07:39:35 AM
It's just somthing I wanted to try.. Had a recommendation from a guy I trust and got some at 125mg a pill work my way up slowly to 500mgs a day..

I just wanted to see what all the talk was about. It works really well and drops wieght like crazy. Is say it's a great thing to use about 2 weeks in the start of your prep just to lean out a good amount.

I'm always smart with anything I take and always error on the side of caution
And still stepped onstage overweight?????
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: Archer77 on July 13, 2014, 08:00:30 AM
DNP Guru, DNPdynamite, DNP-X, and a few others was the usernames of the mod from EF that was charged in that death.

He was a good domestic source back then.  EF is where I found him.
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on July 13, 2014, 08:53:29 AM
It literally only kills idiots.

The side effects can be brutal, but the health consequences of DNP use are fairly negligible (assuming you don't die from it). It may cause cataract formation, but this is likely due to excessive free radical production causing deterioration of the mechanism that allows the fibres that form the lens tissue of the eye to remain in a persistent state of dehydration (dehydration allows the lens to remain transparent, which as far as I'm aware is the only tissue in the body that *only* functions when it is dehydrated).

In animal studies antioxidant therapy prevented cataract formation from DNP usage (high dose vitamin C).

Apart from death, cataract formation is the only significant long term side effect of DNP usage. Compare it to something like clenbuterol which actively accelerates collagen deposition in the cardiac musculature (essentially accelerating the process that leads to heart failure) *AND* is actively arrhythmiogenic through stimulation of the beta adnergic pathway and through collagen deposition in the heart wall leading to interference with the electrical conduction of the heart.

I personally don't believe in fat burning compounds at all. But clenbuterol use is widespread and yet people seem more keen to condemn DNP usage, imo, the reverse should apply (but not everyone is capable of using it safely). I even heard of a medical student who managed to kill herself by combining it with other drugs (or possibly just a primary DNP overdose), so not just lay people are stupid it seems.

Wow very very good points here. Thanks for the post
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on July 13, 2014, 08:55:10 AM
And still stepped onstage overweight?????

"Hello 9-1-1? We have shots fired."
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: nasum on July 13, 2014, 09:32:43 AM
Wow very very good points here. Thanks for the post

Thank you dude.

I try my best to research the compounds I use as fully as possible.
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: wes on July 13, 2014, 09:39:10 AM
Pesticide Of Permanent Peace
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: Simple Simon on July 13, 2014, 09:39:30 AM
Pesticide Of Permanent Peace
;D
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: nasht5 on July 13, 2014, 12:24:15 PM
For anyone who doesn't know the history of DNP, they noticed that factory workers producing it were becoming ripped, probably from the fumes or ingesting tiny amounts, so they marketed it for weight loss. Then, as you could guess, some fat French pig, among others, followed the "if this much makes me lose 1lb of fat a day, I'll take three times that...."

Any substance with a relatively low ld50 when combined with idiots will end in deaths.

WWII exposive plants noticed that over a period of months their workers would drop weight. examples of 185lbs men (considered big back in the 40's) would weigh 140lbs after 6months. The workers didn't take any DNP supplement they just breathed in the residue floating around in the air.
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: Overload on July 13, 2014, 12:38:15 PM
I've never used it and would not recommend anyone take it for any reason.

I know a few guys who use it once a year to get ripped for shows without issues, but they will tell you that it's like having an intense flu and you feel like a zombie.  No chance i would ever even try it.


8)
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: no one on July 13, 2014, 11:46:58 PM
Pesticide Of Permanent Peace

zing!

:D
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: Powerlift66 on July 14, 2014, 04:44:53 AM
I've never used it and would not recommend anyone take it for any reason.

I know a few guys who use it once a year to get ripped for shows without issues, but they will tell you that it's like having an intense flu and you feel like a zombie.  No chance i would ever even try it.

8)

All seems worth it for the plastic trophy and membership card  ::)
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: Van_Bilderass on July 14, 2014, 04:58:27 AM
The only BB drug I for the life of me can't understand why guys use. Hell I even "get" the guys who synthol and touch up their weak parts the night before a show. But this....fuck DNP

Why? I don't understand why a serious competitor would not use it. Many come in just slightly too heavy. Imagine if a guy who regularly comes in 4-5lbs too fat would have used DNP at a low dose for maybe 3-4 weeks at the start or middle of his regular prep, doing everything else the same... could mean 1st place instead of 3rd or 4th or 5th.

I think the cataract formation is the main worry, nasum's post was great. As I understand it, this was the reason it was pulled as a weight loss drug in the US. People seem to feel like DNP is somehow cheating. Are you kidding me, no one cares what you did for your prep, only what you look like.

Personally I have not used it, but if I competed I most likely would.
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: BigCyp on July 14, 2014, 05:13:26 AM
Do Not Partake.
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: Nirvana on July 14, 2014, 06:05:46 AM
To be a freak you have to do freaky things. If the other guy is taking something, you better be taking more.
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: Lustral on August 08, 2014, 10:47:48 AM
Was curious what the ld50* of dbol was and orally in rats it is 1000mg/kg (1g/kg) so the ld50 for a 100kg getbigger would be 100g - or 10,000 x 10mg tabs.

While on site thought I would search ld50 of DNP and it is 30mg/kg so 3000mg (3g) for the same 100kg bodybuilder. Now I know that is ld50, a dose that would kill 50% of users, but that is 15 x 200mg caps/day. Almost no one taking it would go over 600mg/day. Over 1g would be absolutely unbearable sides for a human - a rat doesn't have a choice - so I can only imagine a tiny minority would die taking even 10-15mg/kg.  (given higher doses would burn minimally extra amounts of fat, a minor reward, we aren't talking chemotherapy here, noone would be motivated to bear sides)

To get near those doses you would have to start on a high dose and presumably take it for a few days min to build up concentration in body, ignoring side effects and personal tolerance. In other words, it takes user stupidity, ignorance on usage, reckless ingestion, probably external factors like heat/not drinking water/other substances contributing, in addition to some crazed desire to lose weight at all costs (unless costs are fewer calories and/or exercise).

In other words, you have to be stupid and unlucky to die from DNP.
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: stavios on August 08, 2014, 11:16:30 AM
I've used it 3 different times.

there's no doubt it works but the sides make it goddamn intolerable.

exactly, I had to change clothes every 4 hours lol
Title: Re: UG Lab Owners Charged Over DNP Death
Post by: the trainer on August 08, 2014, 11:18:03 AM
Same like that stupid fuck who overdosed on jack 3d causing it to be banned, people need to learn to be responsible for their own actions and stop blaming others.