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From average juicers to usa competitors..no one will ever look like shawn ray, dennis newman, bob paris..etc etc...everyone's bodies in todays time look so un proportional, no one has a small waist..no one tries to develop a thick muscular chest..no1 has any sort of discipline for creating simmetry...who wouldnt want to look like shawn ray or dennis newman..you would bang every girl and demand so much respect..
Does the ifbb have this kind of influence in the regression of exercise training..based on their current love for mass..im certain everyone in the 80s wanted to join the Arnold club
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the kids bodily fluids have been poisoned with substandard pharmaceuticals
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the kids bodily fluids have been poisoned with substandard pharmaceuticals
Ok so what you are saying is that the demand for juice and the high volume of orders world wide killed the dreams of me ever looking like dennis newman?...additionally, what you are saying is the underground market exploded so much that fake juice saturated the markets thus taking over the current demand of good quality stuff?.so is the underground pharmaceutical business the real blame...
im tired of taking juice and not looking like shawn ray like..I mean..not even the pro bodybuilders can do it..
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Take out the insulin, lower the GH, lower the androgens (to Almost nothing) raise the anabolics and do some actual training.
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blame ronald reagan
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Zane
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Get off your computer.
De emphasize back.
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Take out the insulin, lower the GH, lower the androgens (to Almost nothing) raise the anabolics and do some actual training.
So what you are saying is...up the current dose ..but keep it basic. .train "hard" and "heavy" ....do you think im stupid or something? ..no one looks anything close to 80s guys natural or mot...gary strydom back in the day..why cant anyone look remotely close to that..not even amateur bodybuilders....no one looks like that anywhere in the country...there has to be some guys in the amateur ranks who follow your given protocol. .but yet look nothing like it....
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I think damage to human dna through environmental contamination plays at least somewhat of role in just why we just don't appear as healthy as the early 90's and before.
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Train 4 hrs a day, 6 days a week.
No HGH or insulin
No Tren
Keep the test low
Swallow Dbol like candy
Eat a diet high in red meat
Practice posing and flexing an hour a day
Keep your body proportional (No huge stupid legs)
Don't overuse machine weights
Lift heavy but don't lift stupid
You actually diet to get lean
Don't depend on drugs to make up for your shitty work ethic
No Synthol
Pullovers
Don't play the size game
Practice the vacuum pose daily
Only use Pharmaceutical gear
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Train 4 hrs a day, 6 days a week.
No HGH or insulin
No Tren
Keep the test low
Swallow Dbol like candy
Eat a diet high in red meat
Practice posing and flexing an hour a day
Keep your body proportional (No huge stupid legs)
Don't overuse machine weights
Lift heavy but don't lift stupid
You actually diet to get lean
Don't depend on drugs to make up for your shitty work ethic
No Synthol
Pullovers
Don't play the size game
Practice the vacuum pose daily
Only use Pharmaceutical gear
Oh brother
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1600 mg eq + deca
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Take out the insulin, lower the GH, lower the androgens (to Almost nothing) raise the anabolics and do some actual training.
wrong..go i 1.6grams of deca and eq, that will give you the 80s look...sev said so
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Take out the insulin, lower the GH, lower the androgens (to Almost nothing) raise the anabolics and do some actual training.
BINGO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111111
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Otomix shoes.
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People do have that look
You just don't see it online, at local shows
Not everyone goes the gh/slin look
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Train 4 hrs a day, 6 days a week.
No HGH or insulin
No Tren
Keep the test low
Swallow Dbol like candy
Eat a diet high in red meat
Practice posing and flexing an hour a day
Keep your body proportional (No huge stupid legs)
Don't overuse machine weights
Lift heavy but don't lift stupid
You actually diet to get lean
Don't depend on drugs to make up for your shitty work ethic
No Synthol
Pullovers
Don't play the size game
Practice the vacuum pose daily
Only use Pharmaceutical gear
Good post, but that vacuum pose looks retarded
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Maybe they can maybe they dont want to
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The son that Arnold was hoping for..
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It's no coincidence that young lifters have stopped reading Flex magazine, so they don't know the latest training routines and tips etc
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Joe Weider is dead. No master blaster to train the current bunch so they look like crap.
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Re: why cant anybody anymore in todays times develop an 80s body
It is because you can no longer go to a sports clinic and have knowledgeable doctors direct and write prescriptions for steroid cycles.
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I think a couple of posters really hit the nail on the head. Weider principles, Otomix shoes, and a Henderson Thorne endorsed muscle stimulator machine.
(http://www.toneamatic.com/assets/bodybuilder.jpg)
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So what you are saying is...up the current dose ..but keep it basic. .train "hard" and "heavy" ....do you think im stupid or something? ..no one looks anything close to 80s guys natural or mot...gary strydom back in the day..why cant anyone look remotely close to that..not even amateur bodybuilders....no one looks like that anywhere in the country...there has to be some guys in the amateur ranks who follow your given protocol. .but yet look nothing like it....
Ok
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BINGO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111111
this n as I've said before. There just isn't the interest by the masses to get that huge bb look anymore as in the 80s. Bb were everywhere all hoping for that silver screen big break. Now with less people persuing it u lose that increased chance of getting those perfect bodies. Smaller pool. Yes there's tons of people into fitness but very few willing to go that extra step. N prolly rightly so judging by the health problems of past pros.
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I think a couple of posters really hit the nail on the head. Weider principles, Otomix shoes, and a Henderson Thorne endorsed muscle stimulator machine.
(http://www.toneamatic.com/assets/bodybuilder.jpg)
Hot Stuff supplements and also EAS HMB because it feels like one is taking deca.
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From average juicers to usa competitors..no one will ever look like shawn ray, dennis newman, bob paris..etc etc...everyone's bodies in todays time look so un proportional, no one has a small waist..no one tries to develop a thick muscular chest..no1 has any sort of discipline for creating simmetry...who wouldnt want to look like shawn ray or dennis newman..you would bang every girl and demand so much respect..
Does the ifbb have this kind of influence in the regression of exercise training..based on their current love for mass..im certain everyone in the 80s wanted to join the Arnold club
That's why we have the men's physique class now. It's a neverending stream of chiseled abs, tapered 26 inch waists and utter fear of the squat rack.
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Take out the insulin, lower the GH, lower the androgens (to Almost nothing) raise the anabolics and do some actual training.
There you go!
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Train 4 hrs a day, 6 days a week.
No HGH or insulin
No Tren
Keep the test low
Swallow Dbol like candy
Eat a diet high in red meat
Practice posing and flexing an hour a day
Keep your body proportional (No huge stupid legs)
Don't overuse machine weights
Lift heavy but don't lift stupid
You actually diet to get lean
Don't depend on drugs to make up for your shitty work ethic
No Synthol
Pullovers
Don't play the size game
Practice the vacuum pose daily
Only use Pharmaceutical gear
i feel like this is excellent advise..tren in the equation?
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wrong..go i 1.6grams of deca and eq, that will give you the 80s look...sev said so
who?
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Oh brother
If ANYBODY has the 80's 'look' not that ur trying its you or WES when's he's stage ready.
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Probably mostly due to the drugs of the modern era
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If ANYBODY has the 80's 'look' not that ur trying its you or WES when's he's stage ready.
Thank you, shockingly I do just about the opposite of half that list.
I feel like topics like these are similar to "all music today sucks" statements. People just don't want to move on. There are a shit ton of competitors with amazing builds out there. Some of you guys just have unrealistic standards.
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There you go!
Where you go?
Have you reversed the effects?
Or looked simply like shit all along?
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it has to be all the time bodybuilders spend on the internet!!!
we never had computers in the 80's and everyone had small waists. :D
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Thank you, shockingly I do just about the opposite of half that list.
I feel like topics like these are similar to "all music today sucks" statements. People just don't want to move on. There are a shit ton of competitors with amazing builds out there. Some of you guys just have unrealistic standards.
I AGREE ,whether you take a lot or little your build will develop as what mommy/daddy gave you'genetic wise'example look at mentzer bros both had great builds and were tad different but same as well ,and they took same or close I bet ..
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because we got concerned with the scale weight.
how many guys were under 220 in the 80's? MOST of them.
how many guys focused more on chest, abs, and arms before dorian? most of them.
we figured out that we had to force feed ourselves to get as heavy as possible.. and if you wanted that scale weight to increase, you had to put muscle on the largest areas, meaning legs and back. which meant focusing more on movements that brought into play more muscles everywhere.
who had a big, wide, thick back back in the 80's who didn't also have a bigger than average waist?
who had big, dense, thick legs back in the 80's who didn't also have a thicker torso?
I can't think of anybody.
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Take MetRX..
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because we got concerned with the scale weight.
how many guys were under 220 in the 80's? MOST of them.
how many guys focused more on chest, abs, and arms before dorian? most of them.
we figured out that we had to force feed ourselves to get as heavy as possible.. and if you wanted that scale weight to increase, you had to put muscle on the largest areas, meaning legs and back. which meant focusing more on movements that brought into play more muscles everywhere.
who had a big, wide, thick back back in the 80's who didn't also have a bigger than average waist?
who had big, dense, thick legs back in the 80's who didn't also have a thicker torso?
I can't think of anybody.
I can.
BACK:
Mike Christian
Lee Haney
Tony Pearson
Mike Quinn
Brian Buchanan
LEGS:
Eddie Robinson
Tom Platz
Nimrod King
Renel Janvier
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Train 4 hrs a day, 6 days a week.
No HGH or insulin
No Tren
Keep the test low
Swallow Dbol like candy
Eat a diet high in red meat
Practice posing and flexing an hour a day
Keep your body proportional (No huge stupid legs)
Don't overuse machine weights
Lift heavy but don't lift stupid
You actually diet to get lean
Don't depend on drugs to make up for your shitty work ethic
No Synthol
Pullovers
Don't play the size game
Practice the vacuum pose daily
Only use Pharmaceutical gear
QFT!! except nobody out there... NOBODY does all that nowadays
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Take MetRX..
(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view4/1533158/willie-beamen-o.gif)
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From average juicers to usa competitors..no one will ever look like shawn ray, dennis newman, bob paris..etc etc...everyone's bodies in todays time look so un proportional, no one has a small waist..no one tries to develop a thick muscular chest..no1 has any sort of discipline for creating simmetry...who wouldnt want to look like shawn ray or dennis newman..you would bang every girl and demand so much respect..
Does the ifbb have this kind of influence in the regression of exercise training..based on their current love for mass..im certain everyone in the 80s wanted to join the Arnold club
lots of orals, dbol, primo, oxandrolone
no gh
no insulin
real food
general absense of supplements compared today
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From average juicers to usa competitors..no one will ever look like shawn ray, dennis newman, bob paris..etc etc...everyone's bodies in todays time look so un proportional, no one has a small waist..no one tries to develop a thick muscular chest..no1 has any sort of discipline for creating simmetry...who wouldnt want to look like shawn ray or dennis newman..you would bang every girl and demand so much respect..
Does the ifbb have this kind of influence in the regression of exercise training..based on their current love for mass..im certain everyone in the 80s wanted to join the Arnold club
Ummmm.....NO! You wouldn't bang every girl and demand so much respect. Back in high school, I'd be reading FLEX or Muscle & Fitness and someone would see pics of guys like Ray or Paris and it's the usual "Eww!!! That's gross!!" or "He's too big! That's nasty!"
It's pretty much the same now as it was 25 years ago.
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because we got concerned with the scale weight.
how many guys were under 220 in the 80's? MOST of them.
how many guys focused more on chest, abs, and arms before dorian? most of them.
we figured out that we had to force feed ourselves to get as heavy as possible.. and if you wanted that scale weight to increase, you had to put muscle on the largest areas, meaning legs and back. which meant focusing more on movements that brought into play more muscles everywhere.
who had a big, wide, thick back back in the 80's who didn't also have a bigger than average waist?
who had big, dense, thick legs back in the 80's who didn't also have a thicker torso?
I can't think of anybody.
Bob Paris 1988 Olympia 226lb one of the heaviest guys onstage.
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Genetic excellence.
Hard and long workouts, strict lifting style.
Real diet, starvation style.
Sleep.
Throw in some low dose anabolics and you have the look.
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Take out the insulin, lower the GH, lower the androgens (to Almost nothing) raise the anabolics and do some actual training.
this
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Take out the insulin, lower the GH, lower the androgens (to Almost nothing) raise the anabolics and do some actual training.
No doubt tren is over used, but it certainly has a place in bodybuilding.
You do end up looking like shit in the face though lol.
Ronnie, dexter, dorian, they all have that corpse-face thing going on, from what i can only assume is blasting tren for years on end.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/contest_media/18102/270632/d/img_31331300119739.jpg (http://www.bodybuilding.com/contest_media/18102/270632/d/img_31331300119739.jpg)
Look at that mfucker, 28 believe it or not. Looks like my granddad.
PS my granddad is dead.
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No doubt tren is over used, but it certainly has a place in bodybuilding.
You do end up looking like shit in the face though lol.
Ronnie, dexter, dorian, they all have that corpse-face thing going on, from what i can only assume is blasting tren for years on end.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/contest_media/18102/270632/d/img_31331300119739.jpg (http://www.bodybuilding.com/contest_media/18102/270632/d/img_31331300119739.jpg)
Look at that mfucker, 28 believe it or not. Looks like my granddad.
PS my granddad is dead.
sorry for your loss dude
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sorry for your loss dude
Its alright, he died 20 years ago. But the sentiment is appreciated.
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So what you are saying is...up the current dose ..but keep it basic. .train "hard" and "heavy" ....do you think im stupid or something? ..no one looks anything close to 80s guys natural or mot...gary strydom back in the day..why cant anyone look remotely close to that..not even amateur bodybuilders....no one looks like that anywhere in the country...there has to be some guys in the amateur ranks who follow your given protocol. .but yet look nothing like it....
Are you implying strydom didnt use insulin and g.h.He was one of the first to use it.And i dont want to hear it,either you use or you dont.
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If ANYBODY has the 80's 'look' not that ur trying its you or WES when's he's stage ready.
Thanks Steve.......at first I was pissed,I thought you said I was 80 years old! LOL ;D
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80's physique:
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_tD5iDaamMgw/TTB9eofQAgI/AAAAAAAAAbs/rYWeSOsrlcs/s400/SonnyCrockett.jpg)
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The son that Arnold was hoping for..
x2
"1"
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No doubt tren is over used, but it certainly has a place in bodybuilding.
You do end up looking like shit in the face though lol.
Ronnie, dexter, dorian, they all have that corpse-face thing going on, from what i can only assume is blasting tren for years on end.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/contest_media/18102/270632/d/img_31331300119739.jpg (http://www.bodybuilding.com/contest_media/18102/270632/d/img_31331300119739.jpg)
Look at that mfucker, 28 believe it or not. Looks like my granddad.
PS my granddad is dead.
Thats a pretty farfetched theory. I can point out several people that used/use tren in my gym and all have a variety of faces. I think what you're noting is the gaunt dehydrated look of someone with very low body fat. The reason it looks so weird is because someone normally that lean would look like an aushwitz victim but because of steroids, they've been able to hold onto all their lean mass pre-contest.
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Thats a pretty farfetched theory. I can point out several people that used/use tren in my gym and all have a variety of faces. I think what you're noting is the gaunt dehydrated look of someone with very low body fat. The reason it looks so weird is because someone normally that lean would look like an aushwitz victim but because of steroids, they've been able to hold onto all their lean mass pre-contest.
You're probably right.
I can't find anything to suggest androgens cause skin aging. Just low body fat/genetics in that case.
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Otomix shoes.
(http://cs618520.vk.me/v618520015/99cb/1xn97Avy2IE.jpg)
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(http://cs618520.vk.me/v618520015/99cb/1xn97Avy2IE.jpg)
Ali G approved..
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People do have that look
You just don't see it online, at local shows
Not everyone goes the gh/slin look
Exactly
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a158/pjcd1/1005380_675120349187871_2124526288_n_zpsaabdec7a.jpg) (http://s11.photobucket.com/user/pjcd1/media/1005380_675120349187871_2124526288_n_zpsaabdec7a.jpg.html)
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Exactly
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a158/pjcd1/1005380_675120349187871_2124526288_n_zpsaabdec7a.jpg) (http://s11.photobucket.com/user/pjcd1/media/1005380_675120349187871_2124526288_n_zpsaabdec7a.jpg.html)
Sick build, props if that's you.
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Sick build, props if that's you.
Joel Thomas. Became a pro in 13 and hasn't stepped on stage in 14.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a158/pjcd1/1466316_678309708868935_1931443268_n_zps2c6642aa.jpg) (http://s11.photobucket.com/user/pjcd1/media/1466316_678309708868935_1931443268_n_zps2c6642aa.jpg.html)
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Joel Thomas. Became a pro in 13 and hasn't stepped on stage in 14.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a158/pjcd1/1466316_678309708868935_1931443268_n_zps2c6642aa.jpg) (http://s11.photobucket.com/user/pjcd1/media/1466316_678309708868935_1931443268_n_zps2c6642aa.jpg.html)
All the way big dude (no homo)
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Train 4 hrs a day, 6 days a week.
No HGH or insulin
No Tren
Keep the test low
Swallow Dbol like candy
Eat a diet high in red meat
Practice posing and flexing an hour a day
Keep your body proportional (No huge stupid legs)
Don't overuse machine weights
Lift heavy but don't lift stupid
You actually diet to get lean
Don't depend on drugs to make up for your shitty work ethic
No Synthol
Pullovers
Don't play the size game
Practice the vacuum pose daily
Only use Pharmaceutical gear
Cool list other than the 4 hour days which may have approached that during contest season.
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All the way big dude (no homo)
He's also a great guy! Laid back and totally trains old school.
Oh and works calves!
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He's also a great guy! Laid back and totally trains old school.
Oh and works calves!
That reminds me...
Today I did seated calf raises with a static hold on the top. Right in front of me I saw a twink who did standing calf raises, like a hip-hopper with Parkinson... priceless...
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That reminds me...
Today I did seated calf raises with a static hold on the top. Right in front of me I saw a twink who did standing calf raises, like a hip-hopper with Parkinson... priceless...
It's rare for me to leave the gym not shaking my head at some idiotic gym behavior. 1/4 squats get to me the most.
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80's body
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-GHcKuVvLm0M/UJf9zLAiKwI/AAAAAAAAB_0/wjJfaBRiLcg/s1600/47392_480655695290807_1004294918_n.jpg)
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It's rare for me to leave the gym not shaking my head at some idiotic gym behavior. 1/4 squats get to me the most.
The same here, so in most cases I just stare to the floor or wall in between sets.
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It's rare for me to leave the gym not shaking my head at some idiotic gym behavior. 1/4 squats get to me the most.
imagine owning a gym :o :o
and even worse - the ones who look the worst and train the most ridiculous are the ones giving out advises all day long to everyone dumb enough to listen
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Those were fake weights that he cleaned and did presses with in that video.
I think the reason why the physiques look horrible today is because of the drugs. Insulin, growth hormone, and oil injections are the reason for physiques of today. Combine that with steroids being a felony I believe the majority of the drugs are counterfeit coming out of China. None of the drugs are coming out of legit pharmacological companies. Simpltons really believe the counterfeit packaging as proof it's the real deal. Everyone is huge but the muscles have this bloated soft look to them. It's almost bizarre the physiques of today. They all have the exact same muscle quality give or that a little slight difference in hardness.
I really believe if someone came in with a true small waist and density of muscle instead of the soft bloat they could still win.
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80's physique:
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_tD5iDaamMgw/TTB9eofQAgI/AAAAAAAAAbs/rYWeSOsrlcs/s400/SonnyCrockett.jpg)
Actually, this a good example. Back then you actually wanted to look like the guys in the magazines.
(http://galeria.fitnesclub.sk/foto/Robbie%20Robinson/Robbie%20Robinson%204.jpg)
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Take out the insulin, lower the GH, lower the androgens (to Almost nothing) raise the anabolics and do some actual training.
What's the difference? I know the androgen are test based, but how does it affect the look?
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imagine owning a gym :o :o
and even worse - the ones who look the worst and train the most ridiculous are the ones giving out advises all day long to everyone dumb enough to listen
Can't image! People sitting on equipment on their phone or texting is another one! No one would want to come to my gym because I would have too many rules haha!
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Actually, this a good example. Back then you actually wanted to look like the guys in the magazines.
(http://galeria.fitnesclub.sk/foto/Robbie%20Robinson/Robbie%20Robinson%204.jpg)
bill grant had better calves than wolf but could never win because of them. and judges would tease him about them before the shows.
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From average juicers to usa competitors..no one will ever look like shawn ray, dennis newman, bob paris..etc etc...everyone's bodies in todays time look so un proportional, no one has a small waist..no one tries to develop a thick muscular chest..no1 has any sort of discipline for creating simmetry...who wouldnt want to look like shawn ray or dennis newman..you would bang every girl and demand so much respect..
Does the ifbb have this kind of influence in the regression of exercise training..based on their current love for mass..im certain everyone in the 80s wanted to join the Arnold club
::) that aside... you pose a legitimate question. Even average gym guys today don't look like the physiques of the 1980's. Why?
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Didn't read, but I know the reason. People can absolutely build an 80's type physique today.
The problem is, that having an 80's physique won't even guarantee a pro card these days.
The competitors are just trying to give the judges what they think they want to see.
I think they should implement even more weight classes now.
200, 225, 250, 250+ Then you can objectively judge the bodybuilders based on structure and conditioning.
The problem is in the comparisons.
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That is how you build drama. Say what you want about an organisation like the UFC, but I think the IFBB could benefit from adopting a similar business model.
Create more weight classes (with up to date rankings within that class) to create more interest.
Have "countdown to" shows for upcoming contests, in which contestants can speak freely about the competition.
The "build up" to a show is almost as important as the show itself. A poster isn't going to cut it these days.
You have to give people a reason to watch.
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its simple- less focus on training and more focus on drugs.
training was a lifestyle in 80's. when you went up the gym you went for a few hours and you trained the whole time. today guys load up a syringe and go do a half ass one hr lazy training session a day spending half of it on Facebook.
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its simple- less focus on training and more focus on drugs.
training was a lifestyle in 80's. when you went up the gym you went for a few hours and you trained the whole time. today guys load up a syringe and go do a half ass one hr lazy training session a day spending half of it on Facebook.
this is it 100%
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Didn't read, but I know the reason. People can absolutely build an 80's type physique today.
The problem is, that having an 80's physique won't even guarantee a pro card these days.
The competitors are just trying to give the judges what they think they want to see.
I think they should implement even more weight classes now.
200, 225, 250, 250+ Then you can objectively judge the bodybuilders based on structure and conditioning.
The problem is in the comparisons.
Truth.
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its simple- less focus on training and more focus on drugs.
training was a lifestyle in 80's. when you went up the gym you went for a few hours and you trained the whole time. today guys load up a syringe and go do a half ass one hr lazy training session a day spending half of it on Facebook.
THIS
Brutal intensity and free weights are what build quality dense muscle and the overweight pro's of today strictly rely on the drugs for growth hence the soft bloated look and lack of overall muscularity.
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its simple- less focus on training and more focus on drugs.
training was a lifestyle in 80's. when you went up the gym you went for a few hours and you trained the whole time. today guys load up a syringe and go do a half ass one hr lazy training session a day spending half of it on Facebook.
QFT
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QFT
x2...
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Baitollah Abbaspour?
(http://www.sfd.pl/ObrazkiSFD/zdjeciaSFD2/c1e263733daf4924bf771b10fd0251a6.jpg)
(http://www.ambal.ru/62396447901.jpg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-sDOMQt0HP00/T9zjuKoU-mI/AAAAAAAALSI/M0KJGtO0NBs/s1600/22874943597.jpg)
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sick build^^
look at the detail and quality of mass.
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80's body
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-GHcKuVvLm0M/UJf9zLAiKwI/AAAAAAAAB_0/wjJfaBRiLcg/s1600/47392_480655695290807_1004294918_n.jpg)
synthol wasn't invented back then...
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synthol wasn't invented back then...
I don't remember anyone having that silly grin, back then, either.
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its simple- less focus on training and more focus on drugs.
training was a lifestyle in 80's. when you went up the gym you went for a few hours and you trained the whole time. today guys load up a syringe and go do a half ass one hr lazy training session a day spending half of it on Facebook.
Absofuckinglutely.
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80's body
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-GHcKuVvLm0M/UJf9zLAiKwI/AAAAAAAAB_0/wjJfaBRiLcg/s1600/47392_480655695290807_1004294918_n.jpg)
superhero physique right there.
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sick build^^
look at the detail and quality of mass.
should have beaten Flex a couple of days ago. he is going to cause some major damage soon.
/h2
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I think damage to human dna through environmental contamination plays at least somewhat of role in just why we just don't appear as healthy as the early 90's and before.
very good observation
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its simple- less focus on training and more focus on drugs.
training was a lifestyle in 80's. when you went up the gym you went for a few hours and you trained the whole time. today guys load up a syringe and go do a half ass one hr lazy training session a day spending half of it on Facebook.
Very good point.
Currently, the pros seem to train only when there is a camera around. The shape of their muscles can not be the result of a weight training program.
I've trained during a few months in the same gym as Tony Pearson. In these years, he wasn't compete anymore. Only demonstrations and seminars. But he trained a lot. Sometimes twice daily. He did not speak and he remained very focused on his movements. The weights were moderate. He was puming a lot.
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should have beaten Flex a couple of days ago. he is going to cause some major damage soon.
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He's not amaricano enough and the judges will have trouble pronouncing his name. Doesn't stand a chance.
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Take out the insulin, lower the GH, lower the androgens (to Almost nothing) raise the anabolics and do some actual training.
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This
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80's body
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-GHcKuVvLm0M/UJf9zLAiKwI/AAAAAAAAB_0/wjJfaBRiLcg/s1600/47392_480655695290807_1004294918_n.jpg)
That's not an 80's body. Dude has oil in his arms and delts, a messed up chest and a face of a mass murderer.
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Actually, this a good example. Back then you actually wanted to look like the guys in the magazines.
(http://galeria.fitnesclub.sk/foto/Robbie%20Robinson/Robbie%20Robinson%204.jpg)
That was more of a late 70's body. He also had a tiny chest and legs. His calling card was his big arms and tiny waist.
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Didn't read, but I know the reason. People can absolutely build an 80's type physique today.
The problem is, that having an 80's physique won't even guarantee a pro card these days.
The competitors are just trying to give the judges what they think they want to see.
I think they should implement even more weight classes now.
200, 225, 250, 250+ Then you can objectively judge the bodybuilders based on structure and conditioning.
The problem is in the comparisons.
Wrong. Even the competitors of today weighing in at 200, or 250 pounds ALL LOOK THE SAME. Bloated, no real vascularity, hardness, chiseled muscles, density, etc. Back in the 1980's (as early as 1980), there were guys competing at 160-190 pounds (Mohamed Makkawy, Samir Bannout, Danny Padilla, Chris Dickerson, Frank Zane, Lee Labrada, etc) and guys competing at 230-250 pounds (Mike Christian, Lee Haney, Jusup Wilkosz, Dennis Tinerino, Berry Demay, Bob Paris, Matt Mendenhall, Gary Strydom, Rory Leidelmeyer, Bertil Fox, Casey Viator, etc). ALL of which had all of those qualities that I mentioned.
Regardless of the weight class today's competitors come in at, they will NOT have the same quality physique as guys did from the 1970's through the 1990's). The training methods have changed (people have gotten lazy) and the drugs are out of control. Most importantly, there sadly is NO demand from the judges for that type of physique, a la Lee Haney, Kevin Levrone, Bob Paris, or Frank Zane, Shawn Ray, Robby Robinson, Chris Cormier, etc.
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;)don't forget these clothes to top it off
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Actually, this a good example. Back then you actually wanted to look like the guys in the magazines.
(http://galeria.fitnesclub.sk/foto/Robbie%20Robinson/Robbie%20Robinson%204.jpg)
I worked out with bill in 94 when he was doing masters Olympia, really great guy and just to hear his words of wisdom about training and dieting was priceless. best of times
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don't forget these gym clothes either for 80,s fashon