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Title: Tyson Fury vs Chisora/Ustinov
Post by: Rascal full on July 26, 2014, 09:14:47 AM
Tonight was supposed to be big time boxing in Britain but Chisora pulled out of fighting Fury on monday and now Fury has pulled out of fighting his replacement. What a total cluster fuck! Any one here have any thoughts on this turn of events?
Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Chisora/Ustinov
Post by: Darren Avey on July 26, 2014, 10:18:46 AM
Yeh boxings finished, Da cage is where its at.
Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Chisora/Ustinov
Post by: Simple Simon on July 26, 2014, 10:27:39 AM
Tyson Fury is a fucking waste of time.
Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Chisora/Ustinov
Post by: bigmc on July 26, 2014, 10:40:35 AM
Fury is a clown

I wish hate had fought him

Would have cleaned him out
Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Chisora/Ustinov
Post by: Rascal full on July 26, 2014, 11:15:30 AM
Fury is a clown

I wish hate had fought him

Would have cleaned him out

Agree on this! Haye would have knocked Fury out for sure and I reckon it would have been one of those knockouts where he is unconscious before he even hits the deck. Such a shame that fight got cancelled...twice!

Tyson Fury is a fucking waste of time.

He seems to be like marmite...you either love the guy or despise him. I think he is entertaining and can build a fight but can see why he would rub you up the wrong way. Do you have a favourite fighter mate? 

Yeh boxings finished, Da cage is where its at.

Haha Darren trust you to come out with that. This sort of bollocks surrounding boxing definitely doesn't help the sport but I think it will always have a place in people's hearts. I love cage fighting too but all that rolling round on the floor for five minutes at a time can get boring!
Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Chisora/Ustinov
Post by: Simple Simon on July 26, 2014, 12:20:44 PM
Quote
Do you have a favourite fighter mate? 
I remember the 80s, boxing hasnt come anywhere near since.
I seldom watch boxing anymore.
Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Chisora/Ustinov
Post by: SuperTed on July 26, 2014, 12:37:07 PM
Fury is only famous because of:

A) His name
B) His mouth

His actual boxing ability is appalling. A feather fisted CW like Cunningham nearly put him to sleep and even McDermott out-boxed him a few years back. :D

AJ looks promising but the other British HW's are a bunch of overrated clowns.
Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Chisora/Ustinov
Post by: Rascal full on July 26, 2014, 12:52:46 PM
Fury is only famous because of:

A) His name
B) His mouth

His actual boxing ability is appalling. A feather fisted CW like Cunningham nearly put him to sleep and even McDermott out-boxed him a few years back. :D

AJ looks promising but the other British HW's are a bunch of overrated clowns.

Well Fury looks very ungainly and badly co-ordinated at times but then so do the Klitsckos. Not saying he is on their level but being 6 foot 9 with such a long reach must be a massive advantage. I think that is why he pulled out of fighting Ustinov....the russian was just as tall and weighed a few stone more. No size advantage for Fury.

As for the state of british heavyweights it is pretty dire.....Josua looks good so far but he hasn't been tested. I would like to see him fight David Price or Chisora or someone of that caliber.
Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Chisora/Ustinov
Post by: SuperTed on July 26, 2014, 01:04:24 PM
Well Fury looks very ungainly and badly co-ordinated at times but then so do the Klitsckos. Not saying he is on their level but being 6 foot 9 with such a long reach must be a massive advantage. I think that is why he pulled out of fighting Ustinov....the russian was just as tall and weighed a few stone more. No size advantage for Fury.

As for the state of british heavyweights it is pretty dire.....Josua looks good so far but he hasn't been tested. I would like to see him fight David Price or Chisora or someone of that caliber.

I don't really see any Fury-Klitschko comparison other than they are both big guys to be honest.
Wlad is pretty fluid, deceptively quick, punches like a freight train, is hard to hit and controls distance expertly. As Jim Watt said, "Wlad might be robotic but he isn't cumbersome".

Fury on the other hand is sloppy, has fairly average power and is easy to hit.

If they were to fight, it would be another one sided systematic beat down similar to most of Wlad's fights.
Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Chisora/Ustinov
Post by: Rascal full on July 26, 2014, 01:18:10 PM
I don't really see any Fury-Klitschko comparison other than they are both big guys to be honest.
Wlad is pretty fluid, deceptively quick, punches like a freight train, is hard to hit and controls distance expertly. As Jim Watt said, "Wlad might be robotic but he isn't cumbersome".

Fury on the other hand is sloppy, has fairly average power and is easy to hit.

If they were to fight, it would be another one sided systematic beat down similar to most of Wlad's fights.


Yeah I think you are right Ted. Do you see any challengers out there for Wlad?
Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Chisora/Ustinov
Post by: SuperTed on July 26, 2014, 01:45:14 PM
Yeah I think you are right Ted. Do you see any challengers out there for Wlad?

I don't think so with the current HW's around. The only way Wlad loses at the moment is if he suffers a steep decline - which I suppose is possible given his age.

Wilder has a good punchers chance with the power he has but I don't think he has the skill to get in range without getting caught himself.
Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Chisora/Ustinov
Post by: Rascal full on July 26, 2014, 01:55:55 PM
I don't think so with the current HW's around. The only way Wlad loses at the moment is if he suffers a steep decline - which I suppose is possible given his age.

Wilder has a good punchers chance with the power he has but I don't think he has the skill to get in range without getting caught himself.


David Haye is making a comeback....I would like to see him fight Fury and Wilder. Both cracking fights that I think he wins.
Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Chisora/Ustinov
Post by: Skorp1o on July 27, 2014, 03:04:26 AM
Fury is so dumb I put him in the same league as Bob Sapp in fight skills.

The idiot punched himself in a fight.

I'm glad I enjoyed the Hollyfield Lennox Tyson era albeit I was a little young to fully appreciate it.
Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Chisora/Ustinov
Post by: Simple Simon on July 27, 2014, 05:41:17 AM
Fury is so dumb I put him in the same league as Bob Sapp in fight skills.

The idiot punched himself in a fight.

I'm glad I enjoyed the Hollyfield Lennox Tyson era albeit I was a little young to fully appreciate it.
It wasnt a patch on the middleweight battles of the 80s
Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Chisora/Ustinov
Post by: GraniteCityDon on July 27, 2014, 05:55:27 AM
Joshua would dominate Fury, Haye would have retired him. Fury has gotten to this stage by fighting journeymen who were immensely undersized in comparison, and as stated earlier McDermott dominated him in their first encounter.

Just my opinion, but i have always said that David Price would destroy him within 2-3 rounds. His cardio is his achilles heel, but for a guy like Fury he is a nightmare. Just as big with almost unmatched punching power, Fury would wake up in a retirement caravan.
Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Chisora/Ustinov
Post by: SuperTed on July 27, 2014, 06:09:32 AM
Joshua would dominate Fury, Haye would have retired him. Fury has gotten to this stage by fighting journeymen who were immensely undersized in comparison, and as stated earlier McDermott dominated him in their first encounter.

Just my opinion, but i have always said that David Price would destroy him within 2-3 rounds. His cardio is his achilles heel, but for a guy like Fury he is a nightmare. Just as big with almost unmatched punching power, Fury would wake up in a retirement caravan.

AJ is still unproven so I wouldn't back him to beat Fury at the moment even though he potentially could.

I think Fury would beat Price. Fury would intimidate Price in the build up and I think Price is mentally fragile and would be a nervous wreak come fight night. Not to mention Price has shocking stamina and a poor chin to match. I never really understood the hype around Price. It was laughable to see people creaming themselves over him after he beat faded domestic jokers like Audley & McDermott.
Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Chisora/Ustinov
Post by: bigmc on July 27, 2014, 06:25:10 AM
Price can't take a punch

Either or could get knocked out in that fight
Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Chisora/Ustinov
Post by: Darren Avey on July 27, 2014, 12:27:30 PM
AJ has been battered sparring by James Stabler and also DillonWhyte. Hes just another Audley.
Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Chisora/Ustinov
Post by: Simple Simon on July 27, 2014, 12:39:24 PM


Real fighters.
Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Chisora/Ustinov
Post by: SuperTed on July 27, 2014, 01:06:30 PM
AJ has been battered sparring by James Stabler and also DillonWhyte. Hes just another Audley.

Really? That doesn't sound too good then for his future goals.
Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Chisora/Ustinov
Post by: BigCyp on July 28, 2014, 02:47:00 AM
I'm gonna buck the trend here,

Fury is a great fighter.
Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Chisora/Ustinov
Post by: Darren Avey on July 28, 2014, 04:27:26 AM
I'm gonna buck the trend here,

Fury is a great fighter.

Big heart, very big mouth but not sure about the rest, I think he ll be found wanting at the top level.
Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Chisora/Ustinov
Post by: bigmc on July 28, 2014, 04:35:16 AM
I'm gonna buck the trend here,

Fury should stick to selling lucky heather

yep
Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Chisora/Ustinov
Post by: BigCyp on July 28, 2014, 05:16:38 AM
yep

 ;D

Seriously though, I've watched all his fights and he has surprisingly good combos, fast hands and ok footwork for a bloke his size. Once Wlad has left the building, I can see Tyson beating Arreola/Stiverne/Pulev etc and grabbing a title belt for a few months lol
Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Chisora/Ustinov
Post by: bigmc on July 28, 2014, 05:49:48 AM
;D

Seriously though, I've watched all his fights and he has surprisingly good combos, fast hands and ok footwork for a bloke his size. Once Wlad has left the building, I can see Tyson beating Arreola/Stiverne/Pulev etc and grabbing a title belt for a few months lol

glass jaw mate

they are keeping him out of the way of anyone that can bang

most of his opponents are jumped up cruiser weights
Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Chisora/Ustinov
Post by: BigCyp on July 28, 2014, 05:56:17 AM
glass jaw mate

they are keeping him out of the way of anyone that can bang

most of his opponents are jumped up cruiser weights

Chisora is a hard hitter though, and Fury beat him when he was out of shape and still learning his trade. Took plenty of shots too - I reckon he would have done Haye but that's my opinion of a fight that will never happen now
Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Chisora/Ustinov
Post by: SuperTed on July 28, 2014, 06:13:25 AM
Chisora is a hard hitter though, and Fury beat him when he was out of shape and still learning his trade. Took plenty of shots too - I reckon he would have done Haye but that's my opinion of a fight that will never happen now

Chisora ain't a hard hitter bro. Don't think he's KO'd or even decked any guy at a higher level. Chisora went into that Fury fight in his worst possible shape too.

You're right about Fury having fast hands and decent combo's, but he's easy to hit and it's obvious from his facial expressions whenever he's been hurt.  I remember Haye saying that his sparring partners for Fury fight (Wilder & Wach) would beat Fury.
I would actually agree with that. Wilder would land on Fury and take him out before Fury gets into his groove. Wach would take everything Fury has and not even flinch before grinding him down in the latter rounds.
Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Chisora/Ustinov
Post by: BigCyp on July 28, 2014, 06:16:19 AM
Chisora ain't a hard hitter bro. Don't think he's KO'd or even decked any guy at a higher level. Chisora went into that Fury fight in his worst possible shape too.

You're right about Fury having fast hands and decent combo's, but he's easy to hit and it's obvious from his facial expressions whenever he's been hurt.  I remember Haye saying that his sparring partners for Fury fight (Wilder & Wach) would beat Fury.
I would actually agree with that. Wilder would land on Fury and take him out before Fury gets into his groove. Wach would take everything Fury has and not even flinch before grinding him down in the latter rounds.

I am a glass half full kinda guy  ;D

I agree, Chisora actually looked like the black version of the michelin man in that fight.

Wilder....hmm I know he can bomb and has very fast hands, but he has had 0 challenges in his 'flawless record'
Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Chisora/Ustinov
Post by: SuperTed on July 28, 2014, 06:22:38 AM
I am a glass half full kinda guy  ;D

I agree, Chisora actually looked like the black version of the michelin man in that fight.

Wilder....hmm I know he can bomb and has very fast hands, but he has had 0 challenges in his 'flawless record'

I'm not sold on Wilder either but I think his reckless style would give Fury problems. Fury could KO him too but I think Wilder would land first.
I find Fury strangely entertaining as a person but as a boxer, I don't see him ever becoming any kind of legitimate HW champion. Maybe a belt holder though.
Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Chisora/Ustinov
Post by: BigCyp on July 28, 2014, 06:27:04 AM
I'm not sold on Wilder either but I think his reckless style would give Fury problems. Fury could KO him too but I think Wilder would land first.
I find Fury strangely entertaining as a person but as a boxer, I don't see him ever becoming any kind of legitimate HW champion. Maybe a belt holder though.

Yep, thats the long and short of it. He could definitely get himself a title, but is not a HW champion and will never be remembered for his ring time in say 20 years. He is a funny bastard though, I watch anything that gets put on youtube, can't help myself
Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Chisora/Ustinov
Post by: bigmc on July 28, 2014, 06:29:32 AM
Chisora is a hard hitter though, and Fury beat him when he was out of shape and still learning his trade. Took plenty of shots too - I reckon he would have done Haye but that's my opinion of a fight that will never happen now

chisora didn't even train properly for that fight

if he had he would have won

haye would have done to fury what he did to ordinary audley Harrison

and cleaned fury out inside two

only the klitchkos are better than haye
Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Chisora/Ustinov
Post by: BigCyp on July 28, 2014, 06:30:36 AM
chisora didn't even train properly for that fight

if he had he would have one

haye would have done to fury what he did to ordinary audley Harrison

and cleaned fury out inside two

only the klitchkos are better than haye

Stop living in the real world, it's not as fun.
Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Chisora/Ustinov
Post by: bigmc on July 28, 2014, 06:35:57 AM
Stop living in the real world, it's not as fun.

I fucking hate pikeys
Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Chisora/Ustinov
Post by: Waller on July 28, 2014, 06:56:20 AM
Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Chisora/Ustinov
Post by: BigCyp on July 28, 2014, 07:40:57 AM
I fucking hate pikeys

My car was knicked off my drive 4 weeks back (luckily it was the Mondeo as Mrs A4 keys were upstairs on landing table) some cunt broke in through double glazed door while I was asleep, grabbed the keys and drove off lol - bet it was a pikey fucker
Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Chisora/Ustinov
Post by: bigmc on July 28, 2014, 07:41:57 AM
My car was knicked off my drive 4 weeks back (luckily it was the Mondeo as Mrs A4 keys were upstairs on landing table) some cunt broke in through double glazed door while I was asleep, grabbed the keys and drove off lol - bet it was a pikey fucker

it wasn't black was it

one of my customers got broken into yesterday

they were in a stolen black mondeo
Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Chisora/Ustinov
Post by: BigCyp on July 28, 2014, 07:44:17 AM
it wasn't black was it

one of my customers got broken into yesterday

they were in a stolen black mondeo

Haha nope it was navy.

Can't imagine why they'd target that motor, it was my commuting car so a 56 plate ghia with like 109k on the clock - must have been to do a crime somewhere else and then dump it
Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Chisora/Ustinov
Post by: Simple Simon on August 02, 2014, 07:38:49 AM
(http://img.izismile.com/img/img2/20090930/fails_gif_39.gif)
Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Chisora/Ustinov
Post by: BigCyp on August 02, 2014, 01:19:36 PM
(http://img.izismile.com/img/img2/20090930/fails_gif_39.gif)

Even if he became a hall of fame, that will always be his most defining moment  ;D
Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Chisora/Ustinov
Post by: wolfrittner on August 04, 2014, 07:55:53 PM
Even if he became a hall of fame, that will always be his most defining moment  ;D
Haha! Thats so wrong nd so stupid at the same time. Poor guy will never lose this moment
Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Chisora/Ustinov
Post by: Rascal full on August 05, 2014, 05:57:37 AM
Had to steal that gif....LOL