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Title: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: denarii on July 28, 2014, 05:53:00 AM
Managed it for 1 rep today. The inclined chest press, not the declined one. I have done 5 1/2 plates declined before. But 4 is now my pb on the inclined  one.
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: BigCyp on July 28, 2014, 05:54:22 AM
Selfie or it didn't happen  ;D

Well done
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: denarii on July 28, 2014, 05:56:28 AM
The bigro probably does it as a warm up. But pb for me.
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: bigmc on July 28, 2014, 06:00:06 AM
good work

hammer strength are my favourite machines

the movement feels really natural
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: Omega on July 31, 2014, 08:23:49 AM
I can do 4 plates on hammer strength but try that on the Olympic bar.....no chance
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: Skorp1o on July 31, 2014, 08:25:58 AM
good work

hammer strength are my favourite machines

the movement feels really natural

I like it too, mainly cos I'm sitting up, you don't get that head rush you get when laying flat on a bench and I find it easier on my shitty shoulder.

4 plates is respectable indeed....same weight as Phil Heath
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: Darren Avey on July 31, 2014, 11:32:37 AM
Thought of this post earlier when i saw some geezer do 20 bloody reps! Stupid strong chest though, ive seen him unrack 180kg, lay it on his chest for a 5 count then press it up!
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: Henda on July 31, 2014, 11:36:10 AM
Good lift.
Feel incline hammer more in front delts so avoirud them, im pathetically weak on it anyways.
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: Complex Carbs on July 31, 2014, 11:45:08 AM
Managed it for 1 rep today. The inclined chest press, not the declined one. I have done 5 1/2 plates declined before. But 4 is now my pb on the inclined  one.
This is very weak.

Subtract 40% of that and that is your free weight "power".

Nothing to write home about.

Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: Mawse on July 31, 2014, 11:52:51 AM
This is very weak.

Subtract 40% of that and that is your free weight "power".

Nothing to write home about.



incline hammer is always hard for me, no matter what height I set the seat at.

not sure why anyone would do a one rep max on a machine though  ???
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: denarii on July 31, 2014, 01:09:55 PM
incline hammer is always hard for me, no matter what height I set the seat at.

not sure why anyone would do a one rep max on a machine though  ???

i havent done flat bench for a while just dbs and machine. but i have maxed my gyms dbs so i might use their power rack for barbells.

and cc, i never said it was something special, just a pb for me.
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: denarii on July 31, 2014, 01:22:13 PM
Good lift.
Feel incline hammer more in front delts so avoirud them, im pathetically weak on it anyways.

depending on how you do them you can favour the weight gong on delts, tris or pecs, but as a pec exercise i try the latter. the max lift would be narrower and higher up so the weight goes on tris and delts and pecs last, but i do them as a pec exercise.
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: visualizeperfection on July 31, 2014, 09:00:35 PM
This is very weak.

Subtract 40% of that and that is your free weight "power".

Nothing to write home about.



honestly plate for plate the incline hammer feels almost comparable for me.

there is a hammer at my old gym that was a "wide chest" loved that machine. I would usually throw four or five plates on i... good movement.

but keep in mind that no one cares how strong you are when you look like a grocery bag filled with mashed potatoes.
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: Complex Carbs on August 01, 2014, 05:38:43 AM
honestly plate for plate the incline hammer feels almost comparable for me.

there is a hammer at my old gym that was a "wide chest" loved that machine. I would usually throw four or five plates on i... good movement.

but keep in mind that no one cares how strong you are when you look like a grocery bag filled with mashed potatoes.
It depends, at some point during the range it's hard, at others it easy.

Can adjust seating position too, making it something lie decline presses.

Sorry, but it's not the same at all, try benching 4 plates each side and report ho that felt:-)
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: Donny on August 01, 2014, 05:48:41 AM
Hammer machines i like. liked using the seated row machine and also did reverse grip pulldowns .. nice. good solid no nonsense machines. Yates approved  ;D
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: Donny on August 01, 2014, 06:03:58 AM
 :)
http://xbodyconcepts.com/dorian-yates-on-hammer-strength-machines/
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: Simple Simon on August 01, 2014, 07:22:42 AM
I will be doing chest later, I will try 4 plates on the decline, is it 4 each side or 4 in total?   ;D
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: BigCyp on August 01, 2014, 07:25:56 AM
I will be doing chest later, I will try 4 plates on the decline, is it 4 each side or 4 in total?   ;D

2 loaded on, and 2 each side to stabilise the machine  ;D
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: denarii on August 01, 2014, 08:03:13 AM
I will be doing chest later, I will try 4 plates on the decline, is it 4 each side or 4 in total?   ;D

160kgs inclined. 220kgs decline. I might do a video for the haters next week
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: Simple Simon on August 01, 2014, 11:23:42 AM
I will be doing chest later, I will try 4 plates on the decline, is it 4 each side or 4 in total?   ;D
Did back instead. NTR
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: visualizeperfection on August 01, 2014, 03:44:21 PM
It depends, at some point during the range it's hard, at others it easy.

Can adjust seating position too, making it something lie decline presses.

Sorry, but it's not the same at all, try benching 4 plates each side and report ho that felt:-)

Haha. I never touch more than 2 plates when I am feeling dumb enough to go on the shoulder destroyer bench press. I'm going to go to the gym today, I'll get a look at what brand of machine it is, maybe its not a hammer that I'm referring to
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: Complex Carbs on August 02, 2014, 08:58:57 AM
160kgs inclined. 220kgs decline. I might do a video for the haters next week
I can't wait to see that.

You mean free weights, right?

Make sure to post the video, i say you will not get a single rep of either.
Not next week, not in this life.

VP, you have probably got the right machine, they do feel very heavy at certain points during the movement.
Must not go for max lifts, try with 2 plates and compare.

Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: denarii on August 02, 2014, 09:01:17 AM
I can't wait to see that.

You mean free weights, right?

Make sure to post the video, i say you will not get a single rep of either.
Not next week, not in this life.

VP, you have probably got the right machine, they do feel very heavy at certain points during the movement.
Must not go for max lifts, try with 2 plates and compare.



when did i say free weights? dickhead
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: Complex Carbs on August 02, 2014, 09:31:51 AM
when did i say free weights? dickhead
Well, this doesn't count for shit, then.

Get on free weights, or at least in a smith machine and try 220kgs.

Everybody has seen your pictures and it doesn't take an expert to roughly guess your "strenght".

You can even do 140kgs for reps, stop throwing around big numbers.

Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: Mawse on August 02, 2014, 09:43:34 AM
I can't wait to see that.

You mean free weights, right?

Make sure to post the video, i say you will not get a single rep of either.
Not next week, not in this life.

VP, you have probably got the right machine, they do feel very heavy at certain points during the movement.
Must not go for max lifts, try with 2 plates and compare.



Lockout on the hs incline is very hard with slow reps.. those machines were designed for idiots to bounce through their sets so if you try to squeeze up it kicks your ass at the end. No wonder so few people lock out on them.

The bottom of the rep is shoulder death on most of those things if you go to touch the rubber.. brutal over stretch and your shoulders roll up and internally rotate because of the weird arc at the very end.

I rarely use over 2 plates a side and squeeze up and down, stopping a few inches from the bottom. One arm at a time is great for this kind squeezing training as you can totally focus on the pecs moving the weight
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: denarii on August 02, 2014, 10:14:57 AM
Well, this doesn't count for shit, then.

Get on free weights, or at least in a smith machine and try 220kgs.

Everybody has seen your pictures and it doesn't take an expert to roughly guess your "strenght".

You can even do 140kgs for reps, stop throwing around big numbers.



i never claimed to do 140 barbell for reps. you typify idiots on the internet arguing about something that wasnt said int he first place.
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: Simple Simon on August 03, 2014, 06:25:54 AM
Just trained chest
HAMMER DECLINE
3 warm up sets with 2 a side
1 set with 3 a side
1 set with 3.5 a side
1 set with 4 a side for 19 reps, paused for 30 seconds then 8 more reps
final set only managed 10 reps

4 a side =80k a side right?
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: Complex Carbs on August 03, 2014, 07:31:32 AM
Just trained chest
HAMMER DECLINE
3 warm up sets with 2 a side
1 set with 3 a side
1 set with 3.5 a side
1 set with 4 a side for 19 reps, paused for 30 seconds then 8 more reps
final set only managed 10 reps

4 a side =80k a side right?
This is what i mean, don't think you would be doing 19 reps with 4 plates on free weights, it's simply a different world and not remotely comparable.

HAHA funny thing is denarii can do one rep, you do 19, and you are not the kind of guy who tries to train heavy.

And warm up with 2 plates each side, that is not happening on free weights for gym rats, just to put everything into perspective.

I don't think denarii could do 2 and half plates on free weights.

Thank you for this very useful post.

Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: Simple Simon on August 03, 2014, 07:45:37 AM
This is what i mean, don't think you would be doing 19 reps with 4 plates on free weights, it's simply a different world and not remotely comparable.

HAHA funny thing is denarii can do one rep, you do 19, and you are not the kind of guy who tries to train heavy.

And warm up with 2 plates each side, that is not happening on free weights for gym rats, just to put everything into perspective.

I don't think denarii could do 2 and half plates on free weights.

Thank you for this very useful post.


Agreed, I would  go on a bar and put two a side on, just not worth the risk of a tear to go any higher.

I normally do the hammer with 3 a side tops, just do them slower and use the weight to fatigue the muscle rather than simply lifting it as many times as i can.
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: denarii on August 03, 2014, 08:58:41 AM
Just trained chest
HAMMER DECLINE
3 warm up sets with 2 a side
1 set with 3 a side
1 set with 3.5 a side
1 set with 4 a side for 19 reps, paused for 30 seconds then 8 more reps
final set only managed 10 reps

4 a side =80k a side right?

yeah i normally warm up light, hit the max and then do drop sets to a couple of volume sets. they dont have hammer decline where i go now.
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: denarii on August 03, 2014, 08:59:52 AM
This is what i mean, don't think you would be doing 19 reps with 4 plates on free weights, it's simply a different world and not remotely comparable.

HAHA funny thing is denarii can do one rep, you do 19, and you are not the kind of guy who tries to train heavy.

And warm up with 2 plates each side, that is not happening on free weights for gym rats, just to put everything into perspective.

I don't think denarii could do 2 and half plates on free weights.

Thank you for this very useful post.



i said on hammer decline the most i have done is five and a half plates, ie 220kgs of weight. but i changed gyms and my current one only has the incline one.
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: Complex Carbs on August 03, 2014, 11:59:22 AM
i said on hammer decline the most i have done is five and a half plates, ie 220kgs of weight. but i changed gyms and my current one only has the incline one.
Ever heard of leverage?

Or a pulley block?

Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: denarii on August 03, 2014, 12:17:20 PM
Ever heard of leverage?

Or a pulley block?



i realize you are a moron, but i have never made a claim about free weights as i dont press the barbell as it previously hurt my rotator cuff and i find dumbbells and machines easier on it. i might try it again but as of now i dont use it.
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: visualizeperfection on August 03, 2014, 04:38:16 PM
i realize you are a moron, but i have never made a claim about free weights as i dont press the barbell as it previously hurt my rotator cuff and i find dumbbells and machines easier on it. i might try it again but as of now i dont use it.

I think you have no clue who you are speaking to when you use that tone of voice.


You should bow down and apologize, and maybe you will be spared.


From now on think twice before air escapes that cock sucker of yours.
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: denarii on August 03, 2014, 11:50:28 PM
Well I got a video of three reps with four plates. Now I have to decide whether to post it. Wasn't hung over this week.

VP you pathetic f#ck, get off my thread.
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: visualizeperfection on August 04, 2014, 12:24:48 AM
Fuck your thread.


Almost as worthless as its OP.


And lol at posting a vid of you repping four plates on a hammer.

Maybe a cool video if you doing some really heavy upright rows or perhaps your PR on the leg extension.
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: denarii on August 04, 2014, 01:09:56 AM
Back day tomorrow
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: visualizeperfection on August 04, 2014, 01:11:05 AM
Back day tomorrow
ah yes.


Are you going to do some max effort pull ups?
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: AbrahamG on August 04, 2014, 01:11:14 AM
Managed it for 1 rep today. The inclined chest press, not the declined one. I have done 5 1/2 plates declined before. But 4 is now my pb on the inclined  one.

Great, how often do you shave your vagina?
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: denarii on August 04, 2014, 01:30:26 AM
ah yes.


Are you going to do some max effort pull ups?

Usually hammer strength pull downs pull ups at end
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: visualizeperfection on August 04, 2014, 01:35:41 AM
Great, how often do you shave your vagina?

Hes such a femme twat, he probably doesnt even shave his gash.
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: Skorp1o on August 04, 2014, 02:41:43 AM
Fuck your thread.


Almost as worthless as its OP.


And lol at posting a vid of you repping four plates on a hammer.

Maybe a cool video if you doing some really heavy upright rows or perhaps your PR on the leg extension.

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Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: denarii on August 05, 2014, 12:26:19 PM
here are some rows about as heavy as i can do. with 140kgs i can do proper form. i send a vid of 4 plate press to simple simon but im not publishing it.

Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: denarii on August 05, 2014, 01:01:22 PM
VP, where u at now? i want to see a video of you rowing 180kgs vs my 160kgs.  ;D
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: denarii on August 05, 2014, 01:19:31 PM


200kgs pull down. i can do a proper set at maybe 160kgs.
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: Simple Simon on August 05, 2014, 01:28:12 PM


200kgs pull down. i can do a proper set at maybe 160kgs.
You are going to hurt yourself.
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: visualizeperfection on August 05, 2014, 01:42:28 PM
You know the guy at the gym that throws around heavy weight, not really doing anything at all? He is also the same guy that goes consistantly for years but never really looks any different?
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: denarii on August 05, 2014, 02:10:41 PM
You know the guy at the gym that throws around heavy weight, not really doing anything at all? He is also the same guy that goes consistantly for years but never really looks any different?

lol. cross-fitter. where u at now visualize homosexual. i could rag doll you with one arm. 
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: Mawse on August 05, 2014, 02:55:07 PM
Why didn't you post your deadlift video bro? It's more impressive than those machine lifts

Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: denarii on August 05, 2014, 03:22:51 PM
dont deadlift
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: Mawse on August 05, 2014, 03:28:32 PM
dont deadlift

Probably for the best.
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: denarii on August 05, 2014, 04:08:27 PM
yeah but i only have 40 mins for back and they often caused lower back pain. so right now i dont bother.
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: _aj_ on August 05, 2014, 05:59:36 PM


200kgs pull down. i can do a proper set at maybe 160kgs.
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: visualizeperfection on August 05, 2014, 07:23:56 PM
lol. cross-fitter. where u at now visualize homosexual. i could rag doll you with one arm. 

Im surprised no one else was videotaping you, to be honest.


Who knows. I might see your workouts on the next "workout fail" youtube compilation.

Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: visualizeperfection on August 05, 2014, 07:42:53 PM
here are some rows about as heavy as i can do. with 140kgs i can do proper form. i send a vid of 4 plate press to simple simon but im not publishing it.



You do realize you didn't perform an exercise, correct?


Better to have never picked up a weight than do this kind of "training".
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: Skorp1o on August 06, 2014, 12:59:31 AM
You do realize you didn't perform an exercise, correct?


Better to have never picked up a weight than do this kind of "training".

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Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: denarii on August 06, 2014, 01:17:13 AM
Vp why don't u request a twink board?
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: denarii on August 06, 2014, 01:18:27 AM
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Yeah I could lose some weight
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: Skorp1o on August 06, 2014, 01:21:03 AM
Yeah I could lose some weight

You could get rid of most of it in 8 weeks, but its not easy, this also depends on outside demands.
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: visualizeperfection on August 06, 2014, 01:22:05 AM
Vp why don't u request a twink board?

lol.


Im a lot larger than you, pal. Not even bragging, my dimensions are just a lot greater than yours.

You could get rid of most of it in 8 weeks, but its not easy, this also depends on outside demands.

Well he could continue this high intensity training. That should melt the fluff off.
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: phreak on August 06, 2014, 01:22:24 AM


200kgs pull down. i can do a proper set at maybe 160kgs.

Could you post a movie of this instead? I could not see any movement.



Damn, I was feeling weak when I read all these numbers being thrown around. Feeling better about my 80-kg single-arm pulls on this machine now.
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: denarii on August 06, 2014, 01:32:49 AM
You could get rid of most of it in 8 weeks, but its not easy, this also depends on outside demands.

It's basically drinking. But I like drinking.
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: phreak on August 06, 2014, 01:35:26 AM
It's basically drinking. But I like drinking.

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Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: Donny on August 06, 2014, 03:08:08 AM
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  ;D
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: phreak on August 06, 2014, 03:24:48 AM
  ;D
The best thing about drinking is getting Bertha drunk. She's a lightweight, so yesterday after two shots she was wasted. And I mean completely off her trolley: unable to sit upright, walk, go to the loo, etc. Hard work for me having to help her go pee, but fun for all and lots of laughs. Plus she doesn't object to being cockwhipped as much then. ;D
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: denarii on August 06, 2014, 03:55:25 AM
You have an alsatian called Bertha? 
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: phreak on August 06, 2014, 06:16:42 AM
You have an alsatian called Bertha? 
Let me ponder.

- white as a ghost,
- freckles all over her body,
- likes it doggy style,
- adores me even when I'm a bastard,
- never listens,
- often uses teeth while blowing me.



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Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: Bertha Butt on August 06, 2014, 06:53:06 AM
The best thing about drinking is getting Bertha drunk. She's a lightweight, so yesterday after two shots she was wasted. And I mean completely off her trolley: unable to sit upright, walk, go to the loo, etc. Hard work for me having to help her go pee, but fun for all and lots of laughs. Plus she doesn't object to being cockwhipped as much then. ;D

Let me correct you: it was only one drink and that one watered down. I'm a featherweight.
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: denarii on August 06, 2014, 07:44:17 AM
Joon
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: phreak on August 06, 2014, 07:51:30 AM
Joon
That 'joke' is played out for a month already. Try something more original. I liked the trolling vids in this topic, those were good.
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: Mawse on August 06, 2014, 10:49:16 AM
Junior gently probing the boundaries of the no gimmick rules

Next comes an exploratory post or two with the teh boob account

 ::)
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: denarii on August 06, 2014, 12:56:55 PM
i like the idea of joon gently probing
Title: Re: 4 plates on hammer strength press
Post by: denarii on August 08, 2014, 11:26:48 AM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/watch-imogen-thomas-sexy-new-4001088#.U-UVxH-9KSM

Damn she doesn't train at the same time as me. But my wife knows her.