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Title: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: Irongrip400 on July 31, 2014, 06:51:40 PM
I'm watching Caddyshack now and Chevy Chase is slender, but now looks like a bloated mess. Same with Alec Baldwin and a slew of others. Is it drinking?
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: Hulkotron on July 31, 2014, 06:58:12 PM
I'm watching Caddyshack now and Chevy Chase is slender, but now looks like a bloated mess. Same with Alec Baldwin and a slew of others. Is it drinking?

Lifetime of largely sedentary behavior

Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: The Scott on July 31, 2014, 07:30:46 PM
Gravity and attitude?
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 31, 2014, 08:31:00 PM
The majority of guys past 55 look like hell. It's really unusual when a guy is fit at that age. I know most 30 something year old's think it won't happen to them but it will. Some turn to juice then they have heart trouble.
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on July 31, 2014, 08:45:37 PM
They build up eating and drinking habits early on in life when the body can handle a lot of abuse and burn fat at a more efficient rate.
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: Gonuclear on July 31, 2014, 10:24:15 PM
I'm watching Caddyshack now and Chevy Chase is slender, but now looks like a bloated mess. Same with Alec Baldwin and a slew of others. Is it drinking?

Baldwin definitely looks like a heavy drinker.  Chevy Chase looks more like a victim of doughnuts.
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: phreak on July 31, 2014, 10:27:56 PM
The majority of guys past 55 look like hell. It's really unusual when a guy is fit at that age. I know most 30 something year old's think it won't happen to them but it will. Some turn to juice then they have heart trouble.
It was discovered a long time ago, shortly after you turned 80, that low testosterone is as bad or worse for heart health then normal or high testosterone.
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: phreak on July 31, 2014, 10:29:13 PM
I'm watching Caddyshack now and Chevy Chase is slender, but now looks like a bloated mess. Same with Alec Baldwin and a slew of others. Is it drinking?

Being a famous multimillionaire with nothing left to prove might also play a part.
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: dragonfist on July 31, 2014, 10:32:35 PM
Sickening lack of willpower.
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: MikMaq on August 01, 2014, 12:41:15 AM
The majority of guys past 55 look like hell. It's really unusual when a guy is fit at that age.

thats good to know i never thought about it in that way before.
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: Lustral on August 01, 2014, 05:54:40 AM
As you age your metabolism slows down and therefore caloric requirements drop. Too many keep eating the same sized meals, hence they put on weight.
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: Mr Anabolic on August 01, 2014, 07:20:02 AM
Age, lifestyle, diet, gravity, etc...  It's happening to you right now.

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Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: Simple Simon on August 01, 2014, 07:24:51 AM
they take in too many calories


thread end.
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: hrspwr1 on August 01, 2014, 07:25:22 AM
Because after you have had sex 10000 times there is nothing left to get excited about except cake and pie.
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: Viking11 on August 01, 2014, 07:25:34 AM
Then there were guys like Jack Lalanne who  was lean and fit into his 90's, George Burns who smoked cigars who never was fat and bloated looking..
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: Mr. MB on August 01, 2014, 09:01:42 AM
Sedentary, poor diet and low T.

I hike in the mountains 5-7 miles 6 days a week, 100 push ups a day, take HRT, and cut back on calories. I have a flat belly and i'm fit. Zero alcohol and cigs for almost 35 years.  Too much sun has given me some aging in the skin.
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: Mr Anabolic on August 01, 2014, 09:17:12 AM
Sedentary, poor diet and low T.

I hike in the mountains 5-7 miles 6 days a week, 100 push ups a day, take HRT, and cut back on calories. I have a flat belly and i'm fit. Zero alcohol and cigs for almost 35 years.  Too much sun has given me some aging in the skin.

You should live a long time.  Just don't get in a car accident or cancer.
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: Hulkotron on August 01, 2014, 10:14:45 AM
Sedentary, poor diet and low T.

I hike in the mountains 5-7 miles 6 days a week, 100 push ups a day, take HRT, and cut back on calories. I have a flat belly and i'm fit. Zero alcohol and cigs for almost 35 years.  Too much sun has given me some aging in the skin.

Nice

Too much of our society seems convinced that becoming fat and out of shape is an inevitable consequence of aging.
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: Weedlejuice on August 01, 2014, 10:32:21 AM
I'm watching Caddyshack now and Chevy Chase is slender, but now looks like a bloated mess. Same with Alec Baldwin and a slew of others. Is it drinking?

Same reason everyone gets fat.

Kcal in greater then kcal out.
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 01, 2014, 10:42:19 AM
Then there were guys like Jack Lalanne who  was lean and fit into his 90's, George Burns who smoked cigars who never was fat and bloated looking..

Burns wasn't fitness guy, but whenever I heard someone ask him about his lifestyle, he always mentioned that he didn't eat too much.

The word I would use to describe the overall physical condition of this current generation of elderly is "abysmal."

 It's depressing to watch these broken down things attempt to do anything remotely physical.
 
 Half of them need Winnie Walkers to get around.

Jack Lalanne must be rolling in his grave.

Sorry Jack, you tried.
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: The Wrong Advices on August 01, 2014, 11:36:22 AM
It's all the damn GMO refined wheat and other "fillers" in our so-called "foods". Plus, sugar on top of sugar and all this artificial crap to make non-food taste and look like food.

Look at pics of people up to the 70's; mostly slim to moderate chubbiness, seeing grossly overweight folks was rare. Now look at a crowd of people today. Fat, fat, and fat. Everyone is getting thicker because of all the bread and sugar we consume, compounded by sedation, apathy, and a daily handful of pills just to function and get through the goddamned day.
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: Hulkotron on August 01, 2014, 11:52:48 AM
Burns wasn't fitness guy, but whenever I heard someone ask him about his lifestyle, he always mentioned that he didn't eat too much.

The word I would use to describe the overall physical condition of this current generation of elderly is "abysmal."

 It's depressing to watch these broken down things attempt to do anything remotely physical.
 
 Half of them need Winnie Walkers to get around.

Jack Lalanne must be rolling in his grave.

Sorry Jack, you tried.

x2 Team Lalanne
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: Neptuno on August 01, 2014, 01:46:15 PM
As you age your metabolism slows down and therefore caloric requirements drop. Too many keep eating the same sized meals, hence they put on weight.

+1

Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: Danimal77 on August 01, 2014, 01:51:09 PM
I'm watching Caddyshack now and Chevy Chase is slender, but now looks like a bloated mess. Same with Alec Baldwin and a slew of others. Is it drinking?

What happens is that the body (the upper torso) begins to compress and collapse on itself. The neck gets shorter and the head starts to go forward, making the appearance of a double chin. The spine compresses, which pushes out the stomach/chest, making the person appear fatter, when in essence, they are just getting squished.

Wrestlers like Roddy Piper who had a good chunk of his spine taken out (because of a tumor), went from 6'1.5" to 5'9" and now it looks like he has a huge gut. He doesn't. It's just that the organs are pushed forward, because of less space.
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: Simple Simon on August 01, 2014, 01:51:18 PM
As you age your metabolism slows down and therefore caloric requirements drop. Too many keep eating the same sized meals, hence they put on weight.
You sure about that?
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: Shockwave on August 01, 2014, 01:54:53 PM
You sure about that?
It didn't happen to my dad until about 55. Then his test levels dropped, all his muscle started to disappear, and he naturally eats a LOT less. He was one of those 5'10" Scandinavian muscular genetic freaks who never lifted weights.. he had massive, vascular forearms, biceps, and shoulders with super wide clavicles (even at about 18% Bf, think a non-BB version of young cutler) from bucking bales as a kid that stayed with him his whole life... then, it all vanished over the course of 5 years. He also lost a bunch of height at the same time.

I was jealous and always wondered if he secretly lifted and juiced in his youth.. but his friends all said he built it from farm work after he graduated high school.
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: The Scott on August 01, 2014, 01:56:15 PM
Actually, the preferred term amongst us seasoned citizens is "fluffy".
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: Simple Simon on August 01, 2014, 02:10:22 PM
It didn't happen to my dad until about 55. Then his test levels dropped, all his muscle started to disappear, and he naturally eats a LOT less. He was one of those 5'10" Scandinavian muscular genetic freaks who never lifted weights.. he had massive, vascular forearms, biceps, and shoulders with super wide clavicles (even at about 18% Bf, think a non-BB version of young cutler) from bucking bales as a kid that stayed with him his whole life... then, it all vanished over the course of 5 years. He also lost a bunch of height at the same time.

I was jealous and always wondered if he secretly lifted and juiced in his youth.. but his friends all said he built it from farm work after he graduated high school.
So he became sedentary after years of outside labour and ate less?
Whats that got to do with slowing metabolism?
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: Shockwave on August 01, 2014, 02:18:50 PM
So he became sedentary after years of outside labour and ate less?
Whats that got to do with slowing metabolism?
No where did I say his lifestyle changed; hes had the exact same lifestyle for the last 30 years. When he hit 55, his body started going downhill, testosterone went down and metabolism slowed down with it (couldnt eat as much, started gaining fat, losing muscle). He still keeps the exact same work and life schedule for 30 years. Now, he has to add in 30min of walking a day as per doctors orders to keep his weight in line even eating way less.
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: oldtimer1 on August 01, 2014, 02:19:48 PM
It was discovered a long time ago, shortly after you turned 80, that low testosterone is as bad or worse for heart health then normal or high testosterone.

I guess you haven't seen all the law suits flying over hormone replacement therapy? Statistics have shown that guys with low T using RX testosterone are at a higher risk of heart attack and stroke. This is just from super low dose hormone replacement. I can only imagine the risk with some 50 something guy taking bodybuilding dose steroids.

One fact no one can dispute. Everyone gets old and deteriorates. If you are in your 20's, 30's and 40's you might not understand this fact.
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: Simple Simon on August 01, 2014, 02:26:59 PM
No where did I say his lifestyle changed; hes had the exact same lifestyle for the last 30 years. When he hit 55, his body started going downhill, testosterone went down and metabolism slowed down with it (couldnt eat as much, started gaining fat, losing muscle). He still keeps the exact same work and life schedule for 30 years. Now, he has to add in 30min of walking a day as per doctors orders to keep his weight in line even eating way less.

Im not arguing at all, Im 49 now and have to watch what I eat or I put weight on easier than when I was 20-30, then again I was doing way more aerobically back then.
If I did what I was doing back then I would be able to eat more, so no, I don't think my metabolism had changed in the last 35 years.
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: Shockwave on August 01, 2014, 02:30:02 PM
Im not arguing at all, Im 49 now and have to watch what I eat or I put weight on easier than when I was 20-30, then again I was doing way more aerobically back then.
If I did what I was doing back then I would be able to eat more, so no, I don't think my metabolism had changed in the last 35 years.
Ah. No, hes a perfect case study, same habits since I was born, same diet, same routine... 55 hit him and *wham* body startinf deteriorating. Luckily hes doesnt give a shit, its just interesting to see from an outside perspective.
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: Simple Simon on August 01, 2014, 02:32:05 PM
Ah. No, hes a perfect case study, same habits since I was born, same diet, same routine... 55 hit him and *wham* body startinf deteriorating. Luckily hes doesnt give a shit, its just interesting to see from an outside perspective.

Thanks, looking forward to 55 with trepidation.   ;D
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: Shockwave on August 01, 2014, 02:39:30 PM
Thanks, looking forward to 55 with trepidation.   ;D
He also didnt juice or stay physically fit/lift. :)
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on August 01, 2014, 02:41:03 PM
Here's a basic breakdown for an average person on what they should do to stay lean. Do this and you don't have to do any cardio to stay lean.

age 20-30---eat 2500 cals a day
age 30-40---eat 2200 cals a day
age 40-50---eat 2000 cals a day
age 50-55---eat 1800 cals a day
age 55-60---eat 1500 cals a day
age 60-65---eat 1200 cals a day
age 65-75---eat 1000 cals a day
age 75-100--eat  800 cals a day
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: Julio Ceasar on August 01, 2014, 04:22:07 PM
Problem easy solwed. U need cardio and edurance training as a lifestyle. Ten u never get fat like these piggs! They are lazy and just eat, eat is all they got like most of the prople. Lazyness kill them! And if u start eat candy sweet shit snacks...u will get addicted! Problem is simple. Eath healty and do cardio!
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: the trainer on August 01, 2014, 04:45:53 PM
When you get old that is when you really need to workout  and watch your diet, I am glad that I am addicted to the lifting lifestyle that means I will be in shape all my life.
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: Primemuscle on August 01, 2014, 04:51:58 PM
I guess you haven't seen all the law suits flying over hormone replacement therapy? Statistics have shown that guys with low T using RX testosterone are at a higher risk of heart attack and stroke. This is just from super low dose hormone replacement. I can only imagine the risk with some 50 something guy taking bodybuilding dose steroids.

One fact no one can dispute. Everyone gets old and deteriorates. If you are in your 20's, 30's and 40's you might not understand this fact.

My experience with HRT has been very positive. In my opinion, people should not go on HRT unless it is prescribed and monitored by their doctor. My urologist requires I do complete lab work twice a year. Although I have atrial flutter (irregular heart beat), which comes and goes, my heart is apparently in good condition. I just spent some time with my cardiologist, having an EKG and an ECHO done to make sure everything was good and it was.

I feel fortunate in that I currently weigh 192 lbs. which is what I weighed 26 years ago. At 18 I weighed 185 lbs. My weight is pretty stable. Although I've not been great a hauling myself off to the gym for a workout, I've maintained what muscle I have. My waist is 34" which is 2" bigger than it was at 18. I suspect this is partly due to genetics and partly due to the fact that I have always maintained a healthy diet with few bad habits.

So I don't believe it is a given that once one turns 50 years old, everything goes to pot. What little hair I have on my head did lose color and is predominately white these days. My skin being somewhat oily has not wrinkled much. I do have a few moles which are probably age spots and not moles at all. My teeth are in great shape, all thirty of them (two were removed when I was a kid and wore braces).  
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: Natural Man on August 01, 2014, 04:58:30 PM
It's all the damn GMO refined wheat and other "fillers" in our so-called "foods". Plus, sugar on top of sugar and all this artificial crap to make non-food taste and look like food.

Look at pics of people up to the 70's; mostly slim to moderate chubbiness, seeing grossly overweight folks was rare. Now look at a crowd of people today. Fat, fat, and fat. Everyone is getting thicker because of all the bread and sugar we consume, compounded by sedation, apathy, and a daily handful of pills just to function and get through the goddamned day.
great post.
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: tommywishbone on August 01, 2014, 05:03:09 PM
Wes and I are old but we're both still ripped and buff. True story.
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: Primemuscle on August 01, 2014, 05:04:38 PM
It's all the damn GMO refined wheat and other "fillers" in our so-called "foods". Plus, sugar on top of sugar and all this artificial crap to make non-food taste and look like food.

Look at pics of people up to the 70's; mostly slim to moderate chubbiness, seeing grossly overweight folks was rare. Now look at a crowd of people today. Fat, fat, and fat. Everyone is getting thicker because of all the bread and sugar we consume, compounded by sedation, apathy, and a daily handful of pills just to function and get through the goddamned day.

I was at the hospital today with my wife. There were a lot of 60 and 70 year old women there waiting for lab work and they were all very round. Not what you'd call morbidly obese, but definitely chubby with big round tummies. I think the processed crap many folks eat has had a very negative effect on most people.  
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 01, 2014, 05:07:16 PM
great post.
Moron.


http://www.geneticliteracyproject.org/2013/10/08/with-2000-global-studies-confirming-safety-gm-foods-among-most-analyzed-subject-in-science/


With 2000+ global studies affirming safety, GM foods among most analyzed subjects in science
JoAnna Wendel | October 8, 2013 | Genetic Literacy Project

A popular weapon used by those critical of agricultural biotechnology is to claim that there has been little to no evaluation of the safety of GM crops and there is no scientific consensus on this issue.

Those claims are simply not true. Every major international science body in the world has reviewed multiple independent studies—in some cases numbering in the hundreds—in coming to the consensus conclusion that GMO crops are as safe or safer than conventional or organic foods, but the magnitude of the research has never been evaluated or documented.

Still the claim that GMOs are ‘understudied’—the meme represented in the quotes highlighted at the beginning of this article—has become a staple of anti-GMO critics, especially activist journalists. In response to what they believed was an information gap, a team of Italian scientists cataloged and analyzed 1783 studies about the safety and environmental impacts of GMO foods—a staggering number.

The researchers couldn’t find a single credible example demonstrating that GM foods pose any harm to humans or animals. “The scientific research conducted so far has not detected any significant hazards directly connected with the use of genetically engineered crops,” the scientists concluded.

The research review, published in Critical Reviews in Biotechnology in September, spanned only the last decade—from 2002 to 2012—which represents only about a third of the lifetime of GM technology.

“Our goal was to create a single document where interested people of all levels of expertise can get an overview on what has been done by scientists regarding GE crop safety,” lead researcher Alessandro Nicolia, applied biologist at the University of Perugia, told Real Clear Science. “We tried to give a balanced view informing about what has been debated, the conclusions reached so far, and emerging issues.”

The conclusions are also striking because European governments, Italy in particular, have not been as embracing of genetically modified crops as has North and South America, although the consensus of European scientists has been generally positive.

The Italian review not only compiled independent research on GMOs over the last ten years but also summarizes findings in the different categories of GM research: general literature, environmental impact, safety of consumption and traceability.

The “general literature” category of studies largely reveals the differences between the US, EU and other countries when it comes to regulating GM crops. Due to lack of uniform regulatory practices and the rise of non-scientific rhetoric, Nicolia and his colleagues report, concern about GMOs has been greatly exaggerated.

Environmental impact studies are predominant in the body of GM research, making up 68% of the 1,783 studies. These studies investigated environmental impact on the crop-level, farm-level and landscape-level. Nicolia and his team found “little to no evidence” that GM crops have a negative environmental impact on their surroundings.

One of the fastest growing areas of research is in gene flow, the potential for genes from GM crops to be found—“contaminate” in the parlance of activists—in non-GM crops in neighboring fields. Nicolia and his colleagues report that this has been observed, and scientists have been studying ways to reduce this risk with different strategies such as isolation distances and post-harvest practices. The review notes that gene flow is not unique to GM technology and is commonly seen in wild plants and non-GM crops. While gene flow could certainly benefit from more research, Nicolia and his colleagues suggest, the public’s aversion to field trials discourages many scientists, especially in the EU.

In the food and feeding category, the team found no evidence that approved GMOs introduce any unique allergens or toxins into the food supply. All GM crops are tested against a database of all known allergens before commercialization and any crop found containing new allergens is not approved or marketed.

The researchers also address the safety of transcribed RNA from transgenic DNA. Are scientists fiddling with the ‘natural order’ of life? In fact, humans consume between 0.1 and 1 gram of DNA per day, from both GM and non-GM ingredients. This DNA is generally degraded by food processing, and any surviving DNA is then subsequently degraded in the digestive system. No evidence was found that DNA absorbed through the GI tract could be integrated into human cells—a popular anti-GMO criticism.

These 1783 studies are expected to be merged into the public database known as GENERA (Genetic Engineering Risk Atlas) being built by Biofortified, an independent non-profit website. Officially launched in 2012, GENERA includes peer-reviewed journal articles from different aspects of GM research, including basic genetics, feeding studies, environmental impact and nutritional impact. GENERA has more than 650 studies listed so far, many of which also show up in the new database. When merged, there should be well over 2000 GMO related studies, a sizable percentage—as many as 1000—that have been independently executed by independent scientists.

In short, genetically modified foods are among the most extensively studied scientific subjects in history. This year celebrates the 30th anniversary of GM technology, and the paper’s conclusion is unequivocal: there is no credible evidence that GMOs pose any unique threat to the environment or the public’s health. The reason for the public’s distrust of GMOs lies in psychology, politics and false debates.
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 01, 2014, 05:08:13 PM
I was at the hospital today with my wife. There were a lot of 60 and 70 year old women there waiting for lab work and they were all very round. Not what you'd call morbidly obese, but definitely chubby with big round tummies. I think the processed crap many folks eat has had a very negative effect on most people.  
It has no effect genius.  No different than excess calories from any other place.

You and the other morons always want an excuse or a scapegoat.
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: Primemuscle on August 01, 2014, 05:22:57 PM
It has no effect genius.  No different than excess calories from any other place.

You and the other morons always want an excuse or a scapegoat.

You seem to like to argue. If you can prove you have a degree in nutrition, I might pay attention to what you think.

Nutritionist and dieticians disagree with you. Processed foods are not as healthy to eat and non-processed foods, plain and simple. Do they cause people to get fat? Of course they do. But the main reason people are overweight is because they overindulge and lead sedentary lives.

I am not overweight, I don't need an excuse or a scapegoat.
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: Hulkotron on August 01, 2014, 05:27:03 PM
It has no effect genius.  No different than excess calories from any other place.

You and the other morons always want an excuse or a scapegoat.

Yes people seem to always want to blame something other than their own behavior on their fitness level.
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on August 01, 2014, 05:33:25 PM
Here's a basic breakdown for an average person on what they should do to stay lean. Do this and you don't have to do any cardio to stay lean.

age 20-30---eat 2500 cals a day
age 30-40---eat 2200 cals a day
age 40-50---eat 2000 cals a day
age 50-55---eat 1800 cals a day
age 55-60---eat 1500 cals a day
age 60-65---eat 1200 cals a day
age 65-75---eat 1000 cals a day
age 75-100--eat  800 cals a day


So you're saying I should just go fuck myself when I turn 60 then.
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: The Scott on August 01, 2014, 05:34:44 PM
It has no effect genius.  No different than excess calories from any other place.

You and the other morons always want an excuse or a scapegoat.

Sheesh!  And people think I'm an asshole lately?  Look little boy, back off Prime and if you really think you're up to it, insult me for awhile. I'm old enough to be your father but thankfully your mom was never so desperate for attention.  ;D

See?  That's how its done. In fun.  With a sense of humor. 

In closing I'll add that is some ways you are definitely correct.  To me (and I admit I could be wrong) a calorie is a calorie but only if it is not properly put to good use and is in excess of that which is required by the body.   Prime trains, loves his wife and the life they have made together.  He gave you no good reason to insult him so.


As to his suppostions?  My older brother is a total vegetarian that grows his own food and does not eat any processed foods.  He too is a bit of a physical culturist and is nowhere near a porkie.  He asserts that crap in makes for not only crap out but crap accumulating within his body.  Who am I to argue with his success?


Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 01, 2014, 05:36:27 PM
You seem to like to argue. If you can prove you have a degree in nutrition, I might pay attention to what you think.

Nutritionist and dieticians disagree with you. Processed foods are not as healthy to eat and non-processed foods, plain and simple. Do they cause people to get fat? Of course they do. But the main reason people are overweight is because they overindulge and lead sedentary lives.

I am not overweight, I don't need an excuse or a scapegoat.
What do I have to do with the entire Scientific Consensus moron?

So if I had a degree in nutrition you would then believe the entire Scientific Consensus on this issue?   ???

I am failing to see the logic behind your willful ignorance and perpetual stupidity.  Please explain.
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 01, 2014, 05:38:40 PM
You seem to like to argue. If you can prove you have a degree in nutrition, I might pay attention to what you think.

Nutritionist and dieticians disagree with you. Processed foods are not as healthy to eat and non-processed foods, plain and simple. Do they cause people to get fat? Of course they do. But the main reason people are overweight is because they overindulge and lead sedentary lives.

I am not overweight, I don't need an excuse or a scapegoat.
Bullshit.  No they don`t.
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: Primemuscle on August 01, 2014, 05:51:43 PM
What do I have to do with the entire Scientific Consensus moron?

So if I had a degree in nutrition you would then believe the entire Scientific Consensus on this issue?   ???

I am failing to see the logic behind your willful ignorance and perpetual stupidity.  Please explain.

"Entire scientific consensus"......LOL!

No need for me to explain. You are entitled to your own uninformed opinion. I'll give you that, because I really could care less what you think.
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 01, 2014, 05:57:34 PM
"Entire scientific consensus"......LOL!

No need for me to explain. You are entitled to your own uninformed opinion. I'll give you that, because I really could care less what you think.
The good thing about Science is that its true whether you choose to believe it or not.
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on August 02, 2014, 12:54:53 PM

So you're saying I should just go fuck myself when I turn 60 then.

at 60, 1200 cals is plenty of food. However you could eat 2400 cals one day and fast the next at that age...Hell, even eat 3600 one day and fast for two days.
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: Primemuscle on August 02, 2014, 01:26:54 PM
Bullshit.  No they don`t.

So by your reasoning, someone can eat as much processed food as they want and they won't get fat.
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: Hulkotron on August 02, 2014, 01:27:54 PM
You can eat McD 3x/day 7 days/week and exercise intensely and be lean.
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: Lustral on August 02, 2014, 01:38:31 PM
Im not arguing at all, Im 49 now and have to watch what I eat or I put weight on easier than when I was 20-30, then again I was doing way more aerobically back then.
If I did what I was doing back then I would be able to eat more, so no, I don't think my metabolism had changed in the last 35 years.

You are 49, thread title was old people which I assume refers to +55 or 60 - think the colour grey, driving at 10mph and paying attention Michael Parkinson ads for life insurance.
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: Royalty on August 02, 2014, 05:15:59 PM
Inactivity + low GH + bad diet = fat
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 02, 2014, 05:18:39 PM
So by your reasoning, someone can eat as much processed food as they want and they won't get fat.
???
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: Mawse on August 02, 2014, 08:22:13 PM
So by your reasoning, someone can eat as much processed food as they want and they won't get fat.

One of the effects of aging is a drop in igf1 which leads to the "metabolic slowdown" in older people.

Reduced igf has a cognitive impact too - it leads to foggy thinking and the inability to follow a conversation, as demonstrated here by our own Primemuscle
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 02, 2014, 09:58:26 PM
One of the effects of aging is a drop in igf1 which leads to the "metabolic slowdown" in older people.

Reduced igf has a cognitive impact too - it leads to foggy thinking and the inability to follow a conversation, as demonstrated here by our own Primemuscle

There is a high correlation though of reduced IGF-1 levels and a longer lifespan.
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: Mawse on August 02, 2014, 11:34:27 PM
There is a high correlation though of reduced IGF-1 levels and a longer lifespan.

High Igf1 to low igfbp3 ratio is the risk factor, something missed by the calorie restriction fruit cakes.

Low igf 1 is a very bad thing for seniors and lifters alike
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: Viking11 on August 02, 2014, 11:42:25 PM
You can eat McD 3x/day 7 days/week and exercise intensely and be lean.
Not after age 30 you can't
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: Papper on August 03, 2014, 12:12:59 AM
at 60, 1200 cals is plenty of food. However you could eat 2400 cals one day and fast the next at that age...Hell, even eat 3600 one day and fast for two days.

2000 is like a big pizza lol
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: Hulkotron on August 03, 2014, 09:53:16 AM
Not after age 30 you can't

Explain why or fuck off.

Here is a documentary on a man well over 30 eating primarily fast food and losing weight by simply walking six days a week, before you post some absurd anecdote as "proof".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat_Head
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: thegamechanger on August 03, 2014, 09:58:58 AM
of course you can
and after 40
and after 50
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: Mr Anabolic on August 03, 2014, 10:00:52 AM
2000 is like a big pizza lol

You wish, it's anywhere from 3000-4000 depending on cheese amount and the toppings.
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: Primemuscle on August 03, 2014, 10:02:02 AM
One of the effects of aging is a drop in igf1 which leads to the "metabolic slowdown" in older people.

Reduced igf has a cognitive impact too - it leads to foggy thinking and the inability to follow a conversation, as demonstrated here by our own Primemuscle

Happy to accommodate.  ;D
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: thegamechanger on August 03, 2014, 10:02:47 AM
one pizza a day after training is all that is needed to build mass.
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: Hulkotron on August 03, 2014, 10:03:33 AM
A slice of a large Pepperoni Lover's from Pizza Hut with the "pan" (thick) crust is 320 cal/slice according to this:

http://caloriecount.about.com/calories-pizza-hut-large-pan-pepperoni-i54328

This other one says it's 370:

http://www.calorieking.com/foods/calories-in-pizzas-hand-tossed-style-14-pepperoni-lovers_f-ZmlkPTE4NjI3OQ.html

So if it's eight slices in a whole pie (I think that's right) then the whole thing is probably 3000-ish calories.

If you slather it in ranch dressing or something then obv that will go up.
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: Primemuscle on August 03, 2014, 10:12:19 AM
You can eat McD 3x/day 7 days/week and exercise intensely and be lean.

True. The key is to burn as many calories as you take in. Of course there are other problems with eating McD's or other fast foods. For example, the sodium content is often excessively high, which may not make you fat, but it screws up your body.
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 03, 2014, 10:18:03 AM
You wish, it's anywhere from 3000-4000 depending on cheese amount and the toppings.
Eh not really.

When people think of pizza, they are more than likely getting a New York style pizza which will be way less calories than 3000-4000.

NY style is nothing like thick crust, pan or deep dish and is the type of pizza most people would be familiar with.
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: cephissus on August 03, 2014, 10:22:58 AM
prime getting brutalized in this thread  :-\
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: Tapeworm on August 03, 2014, 11:11:10 AM
Sloth & gluttony.  It's a rare old man who keeps himself moving and doesn't just park his ass at the table for one reason or another.
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on August 03, 2014, 12:30:31 PM
2000 is like a big pizza lol

Yup. at 60 years old, you could eat a large pizza one day and then just fast the next day and you could stay lean eating like that. No problem. Hell, just eat a large pizza every other day and nothing else and you will be lean.
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: Rudee on August 03, 2014, 04:19:27 PM
It's all the damn GMO refined wheat and other "fillers" in our so-called "foods". Plus, sugar on top of sugar and all this artificial crap to make non-food taste and look like food.

Look at pics of people up to the 70's; mostly slim to moderate chubbiness, seeing grossly overweight folks was rare. Now look at a crowd of people today. Fat, fat, and fat. Everyone is getting thicker because of all the bread and sugar we consume, compounded by sedation, apathy, and a daily handful of pills just to function and get through the goddamned day.

True.  Another big difference is portion size.  People ate much smaller portions at meals up until the 80's. The size of dinner plates has grown, and people pile on the food until they can't even see the plate underneath.  And there is more fast food restaurants now than ever.   Back in the day, McDonalds was considered a kid's restaurant where parents would take their kids to eat.  McDonalds made a clever move and got rid of the gimmicky characters (Grimace, Hamburgler, Mayor McCheese, etc) and made the franchise into something that adults would go to on their own without feeling silly.   After they did that, business increased significantly, along with the waistlines of many people who eat there.
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: Master Blaster on August 03, 2014, 09:25:42 PM
calories   ;)
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: Primemuscle on August 03, 2014, 10:16:28 PM
calories   ;)

Simple, but true answer.
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: pedro01 on August 03, 2014, 11:21:09 PM
I imagine they just stop giving a fuck
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: Donny on August 04, 2014, 12:25:50 AM
It´s never too late as this Edinburgh Doctor Shows... i think you have to be active every day or at least 5 days a week. Cycling anyone can do. It´s being consistant.
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: MikMaq on August 04, 2014, 12:58:25 AM
Eh not really.

When people think of pizza, they are more than likely getting a New York style pizza which will be way less calories than 3000-4000.

NY style is nothing like thick crust, pan or deep dish and is the type of pizza most people would be familiar with.
You really need a big bearded man to pick you up by your giant little ears, and tickle your throat with his tongue.
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: Papper on August 04, 2014, 01:42:13 AM
It´s never too late as this Edinburgh Doctor Shows... i think you have to be active every day or at least 5 days a week. Cycling anyone can do. It´s being consistant.


I skimmed through the vid but didn't see a glimpse of his current physique except in winter clothing.
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: Donny on August 04, 2014, 02:19:31 AM
I skimmed through the vid but didn't see a glimpse of his current physique except in winter clothing.
yeah.. he´s not a weight Trainer but still he lost a lot of weight and stuck with it.
Title: Re: Why do old people get fat?
Post by: Papper on August 04, 2014, 10:05:02 AM
yeah.. he´s not a weight Trainer but still he lost a lot of weight and stuck with it.

Props!

I just would like to have seen a little thong and ass at the end or something (no homo!!)