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$3,138,000 USD.
Unveiled in a press release issued today is the “Ettore Bugatti” Legend Veyron, which honors the company founder,
http://blog.dupontregistry.com/bugatti/bugatti-unveils-final-legend-veyron-ettore-bugatti/
(http://blog.dupontregistry.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/bugatti-ettore-edition.jpg)
I am trying to decide if to buy 2 or 3 or just get a Hyundai?
and to make it bodybuilding related... the color will be that of a grapefruit :-[
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Car looks like someone took a huge shit and then baked it at 750 degrees F for 6 hours.
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(https://aznbadger.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/pile-of-shit-on-the-road.jpg)
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Looks like someone already ate the corn out of that one.
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$3,138,000 USD.
Unveiled in a press release issued today is the “Ettore Bugatti” Legend Veyron, which honors the company founder,
http://blog.dupontregistry.com/bugatti/bugatti-unveils-final-legend-veyron-ettore-bugatti/
(http://blog.dupontregistry.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/bugatti-ettore-edition.jpg)
I am trying to decide if to buy 2 or 3 or just get a Hyundai?
and to make it bodybuilding related... the color will be that of a grapefruit :-[
I'll wait until the depreciation brings the price down to 1 million. Then, I'll have my boy Jeebs fetch me one.
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If you need to sped $3.3 million on a car to impress other dudes and money grubbing whores then all the power to you. I'll just buy one for my regular commuter car when I don't feel like using the helicopter.
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This is the car!
(http://www.hindustantimes.com/Images/popup/2014/8/Hennessey1.jpg)
http://www.hindustantimes.com/autos/htauto-topstories/the-hennessey-venom-f5-aims-for-290mph-top-speed/article1-1248871.aspx
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that's fmw jr's 4th bugatti. ::)
broke 1 yr after last fight.
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Hot but over prized and too stylized - I prefer the more angular designs of the 80ies.
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just go round the back of harrods and pull a towel head out of one.
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Can someone brief me on why bugattis cost so damn much
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marketing
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Can someone brief me on why bugattis cost so damn much
The old ones from the 30s cost way, way more. They were literally automotive art and very, very rare.
The current ones are expensive but, VW/Bugatti loses money on each one sold. They basically represent what happens when you throw a German megaton of cash with a lot of engineering into a car, just to go 250+ mph.
It is rare, but the argument is that the Mclaren F1 is far more advanced, because it did 240.1 mph with less (621 hp) and weighed far, far less, and could seat 3. And cars that are 20 yrs old are going for sometimes far more than what this new Bugatti is going for.
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if you want to drop $3m, get
1 and aventador
2 a single seater, like a GP2 or GP3 car for the track.
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Why Wiggs black continent don't build cars (or bicycles) ;D ;D ;D
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The old ones from the 30s cost way, way more. They were literally automotive art and very, very rare.
The current ones are expensive but, VW/Bugatti loses money on each one sold. They basically represent what happens when you throw a German megaton of cash with a lot of engineering into a car, just to go 250+ mph.
It is rare, but the argument is that the Mclaren F1 is far more advanced, because it did 240.1 mph with less (621 hp) and weighed far, far less, and could seat 3. And cars that are 20 yrs old are going for sometimes far more than what this new Bugatti is going for.
The Mclaren is not more advanced never mind far more advanced. They tried their hardest to put carbon ceramic brakes on the F1 they could do it back then. They also sacrificed low-speed cooling on the F-1 , and it sucked in the handling department it's lateral acceleration blew , badly. and NO customer McLaren F-1 was capable of doing 240MPH the XP1 that did do it had the rev limiter lifted NO customer cars did it
Road & Track tested the McLaren F-1 and it's top speed was ' only ' 217 ' MPH and that was with Mario Andretti driving it too and he said it was unstable as fuck at speed.
As far as advancement is concerned the Veyron destroys the F-1
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The speed limit in cities is only 35 mph and the highway sometimes is 70 mph.
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The speed limit in cities is only 35 mph and the highway sometimes is 70 mph.
And? These guys will do double century on the streets
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The Mclaren is not more advanced never mind far more advanced. They tried their hardest to put carbon ceramic brakes on the F1 they could do it back then. They also sacrificed low-speed cooling on the F-1 , and it sucked in the handling department it's lateral acceleration blew , badly. and NO customer McLaren F-1 was capable of doing 240MPH the XP1 that did do it had the rev limiter lifted NO customer cars did it
Road & Track tested the McLaren F-1 and it's top speed was ' only ' 217 ' MPH and that was with Mario Andretti driving it too and he said it was unstable as fuck at speed.
As far as advancement is concerned the Veyron destroys the F-1
I have the book "Driving Ambition" I think they decatted the car and possibly removed the limiter. I will have to look it up.
But think about it, what did the Veyron bring to the table in terms of advancements?? The DCT was already being used in other products.
The F1 did more with less. It weighed less, seated three, had less horsepower, had a manual, no power steering (I believe)...and it's record stood for a long time. And I believe it went over the 240.1 mph on a third test.
Mario Andretti I believe was the one who drove it to 217 and said that it felt like it could pull another gear.
The Veyron is a masterpiece of what money and engineering can do when you want the world's fastest production car...or world's heaviest fastest production car.
But, now, Ferrari, Porsche, Mclaren are focusing not on top speed anymore, but on 0-60, 0-100, 100-120, etc. and track focus, along with hybrid systems. Now, you have cars eclipsing the Veyron's performance, but not it's top speed. Because they are not focused on that.
So, again what really are the Veyron's advancements?
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The old ones from the 30s cost way, way more. They were literally automotive art and very, very rare.
The current ones are expensive but, VW/Bugatti loses money on each one sold. They basically represent what happens when you throw a German megaton of cash with a lot of engineering into a car, just to go 250+ mph.
It is rare, but the argument is that the Mclaren F1 is far more advanced, because it did 240.1 mph with less (621 hp) and weighed far, far less, and could seat 3. And cars that are 20 yrs old are going for sometimes far more than what this new Bugatti is going for.
I remember watching a documentary about the Bugatti and it was something like 500 Horse power to get to 220 and needed 500 more just to reach 240.
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Bugatti veyrons are the most overrated cars , there's a reason why they don't sell well
Only idiots like celebs and rap stars , admire and lust over this car
Car enthusiasts pass...
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I have the book "Driving Ambition" I think they decatted the car and possibly removed the limiter. I will have to look it up.
But think about it, what did the Veyron bring to the table in terms of advancements?? The DCT was already being used in other products.
The F1 did more with less. It weighed less, seated three, had less horsepower, had a manual, no power steering (I believe)...and it's record stood for a long time. And I believe it went over the 240.1 mph on a third test.
Mario Andretti I believe was the one who drove it to 217 and said that it felt like it could pull another gear.
The Veyron is a masterpiece of what money and engineering can do when you want the world's fastest production car...or world's heaviest fastest production car.
But, now, Ferrari, Porsche, Mclaren are focusing not on top speed anymore, but on 0-60, 0-100, 100-120, etc. and track focus, along with hybrid systems. Now, you have cars eclipsing the Veyron's performance, but not it's top speed. Because they are not focused on that.
So, again what really are the Veyron's advancements?
I have the book "Driving Ambition" I think they decatted the car and possibly removed the limiter. I will have to look it up.
The rev-limter was removed. All of the customer cars had their limiters in place so NO Customer F-1 is capable of doing 240MPH
But think about it, what did the Veyron bring to the table in terms of advancements?? The DCT was already being used in other products.
Compared to the F-1? Carbon ceramic brakes , McLaren tried to to make them for the F1 and could not make them work. The DSG dual clutch transmission is eons better than the F-1s manual transmission. It's all wheel drive system , it's cooling , F-1 had low speed cooling issues , the Veyron doesn't. It's a true grand touring car with real air conditioning and creature comforts , the F-1's air conditioner was described as have warm dogs breath on your face. lol despite it's weight the Veyron's performance is on another level.
They Veyron is older than the new hybrids and still is comparable in terms of performance , and wait until the Veyron successor comes out it will be a game changer. Both Ferrari and Mclaren are playing catch up to Bugattii. Neither the P1 or LaFerrari are eclipsing the Veyron in terms of speed either.
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Bugatti veyrons are the most overrated cars , there's a reason why they don't sell well
Only idiots like celebs and rap stars , admire and lust over this car
Car enthusiasts pass...
They sell them all , they sell well but VW is taking a hit on all of them. They've sold over 400 Veyrons , McLaren couldn't sell 100 F1s , Ferrari always sells their specials
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The speed limit in cities is only 35 mph and the highway sometimes is 70 mph.
I met Ben in Brookline , nicest guy you'll ever meet
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I met Ben in Brookline , nicest guy you'll ever meet
Does he even lift?
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Why Wiggs black continent don't build cars (or bicycles) ;D ;D ;D
They do ;)
(http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/autopia/images/2009/04/14/ugandan_car01.jpg)
They are also known for their airplanes
(http://www.diseno-art.com/news_content/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/home-made-African-aircraft.jpg)
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This is the car!
(http://www.hindustantimes.com/Images/popup/2014/8/Hennessey1.jpg)
http://www.hindustantimes.com/autos/htauto-topstories/the-hennessey-venom-f5-aims-for-290mph-top-speed/article1-1248871.aspx
fail. the car pic you posted is not the venom. not even close hth
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if you want to drop $3m, get
1 and aventador
2 a single seater, like a GP2 or GP3 car for the track.
fuck lambo, get an f12
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fuck lambo, get an f12
SR-71 is better
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/97/Lockheed_SR-71_Blackbird.jpg/1280px-Lockheed_SR-71_Blackbird.jpg)
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f12 not a12
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$3,138,000 USD.
Unveiled in a press release issued today is the “Ettore Bugatti” Legend Veyron, which honors the company founder,
http://blog.dupontregistry.com/bugatti/bugatti-unveils-final-legend-veyron-ettore-bugatti/
(http://blog.dupontregistry.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/bugatti-ettore-edition.jpg)
I am trying to decide if to buy 2 or 3 or just get a Hyundai?
and to make it bodybuilding related... the color will be that of a grapefruit :-[
What is a broke ass like you doing reading dupont can you afford to buy anything in there.
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They sell them all , they sell well but VW is taking a hit on all of them. They've sold over 400 Veyrons , McLaren couldn't sell 100 F1s , Ferrari always sells their specials
Not from what I read. Still they are overrated overweight garbage that's good on top speed alone
Give me a laferrari, 918 or P1 any day
I'll take the old McLaren F1 with the bmw v12
Bugatti veyrons aren't enthusiast cars , who cares about top speed only , there's more to a car than simply speed
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The rev-limter was removed. All of the customer cars had their limiters in place so NO Customer F-1 is capable of doing 240MPH
Compared to the F-1? Carbon ceramic brakes , McLaren tried to to make them for the F1 and could not make them work. The DSG dual clutch transmission is eons better than the F-1s manual transmission. It's all wheel drive system , it's cooling , F-1 had low speed cooling issues , the Veyron doesn't. It's a true grand touring car with real air conditioning and creature comforts , the F-1's air conditioner was described as have warm dogs breath on your face. lol despite it's weight the Veyron's performance is on another level.
They Veyron is older than the new hybrids and still is comparable in terms of performance , and wait until the Veyron successor comes out it will be a game changer. Both Ferrari and Mclaren are playing catch up to Bugattii. Neither the P1 or LaFerrari are eclipsing the Veyron in terms of speed either.
page 262-263 of Driving Ambition covers the world record run. It was done Marche 31,1998.
They were on VW's Ehra-Lessien Test Track, which is the same test track that Bugatti used to make it's record run. The car was a production spec, and it was XP5. It was "meticulously prepared".
There were three runs, on run two, driver Andy Wallace reported that the car was close to it's rev limiter at 384 km/h. He reported on the last run that the car would not go further than 391 km/h. Corrected maximum speed was 386.7, which converts to 240.1 mph. No mention of removing the rev limiter or the cats.
Yes, the Mclaren's brakes compared to Veyron, are not as good. In fact, before the Veyron, they tested the Enzo against it (Martin Brundle did the test on video) and he declared that the F1's brakes couldn't compare to the Enzo's.
The Mclaren was way ahead of it 's time in terms of packaging, weight distribution, grip, and build.
The Veyron shows what happens when you can throw money at something.
And, when it's said and done, the Mclaren will command a lot more on the auction block than the Veyron. It just might be commanding Ferrari 250 GTO prices in a few years.
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Nah...I'll stick with my 2007 Honda Accord.
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(https://aznbadger.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/pile-of-shit-on-the-road.jpg)
How much for that model?
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page 262-263 of Driving Ambition covers the world record run. It was done Marche 31,1998.
They were on VW's Ehra-Lessien Test Track, which is the same test track that Bugatti used to make it's record run. The car was a production spec, and it was XP5. It was "meticulously prepared".
There were three runs, on run two, driver Andy Wallace reported that the car was close to it's rev limiter at 384 km/h. He reported on the last run that the car would not go further than 391 km/h. Corrected maximum speed was 386.7, which converts to 240.1 mph. No mention of removing the rev limiter or the cats.
Yes, the Mclaren's brakes compared to Veyron, are not as good. In fact, before the Veyron, they tested the Enzo against it (Martin Brundle did the test on video) and he declared that the F1's brakes couldn't compare to the Enzo's.
The Mclaren was way ahead of it 's time in terms of packaging, weight distribution, grip, and build.
The Veyron shows what happens when you can throw money at something.
And, when it's said and done, the Mclaren will command a lot more on the auction block than the Veyron. It just might be commanding Ferrari 250 GTO prices in a few years.
page 262-263 of Driving Ambition covers the world record run. It was done Marche 31,1998.
They were on VW's Ehra-Lessien Test Track, which is the same test track that Bugatti used to make it's record run. The car was a production spec, and it was XP5. It was "meticulously prepared".
There were three runs, on run two, driver Andy Wallace reported that the car was close to it's rev limiter at 384 km/h. He reported on the last run that the car would not go further than 391 km/h. Corrected maximum speed was 386.7, which converts to 240.1 mph. No mention of removing the rev limiter or the cats.
It's funny they make no mention of it in their book. I've read before on multiple sources the rev limiter was removed for the top speed run. It's funny because Gordon Murray was quoted Top speed? The Fl runs into the 7500 rpm redline in sixth at 221 mph—but it's still accelerating. Gordon Murray, the F1's designer, is convinced that with taller gearing, the car is capable of at least 230 mph. It's funny the old customer car any independent car magazine that tested a customer car and it's top speed was ' only ' 217MPH which is close to the 221MPH
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/mclaren-f1-supercar-road-test-review-the-finest-high-performance-production-engine-in-the-world-page-2
Mentions the rev limiter being removed March 1998, it set the record for the world’s fastest production car in the world, reaching 231 mph (372 km/h) with the rev limiter enabled, and 243 mph (391 km/h) with the rev limiter removed.
http://www.wikipediatrade.com/mclaren-f1/
It's ironic because the Veyron Supersport that ran 268MPH had it's rev limiter raised as well and NO customer cars can do it either. They are restricted to 258MPH. You have to hand it to Bugatti to charging almost twice the price of a regular Veyron for a Supersport with a gain of just 5MPH ! 253MPH compared to the SS with 258MPH
Yes, the Mclaren's brakes compared to Veyron, are not as good. In fact, before the Veyron, they tested the Enzo against it (Martin Brundle did the test on video) and he declared that the F1's brakes couldn't compare to the Enzo's.
The Mclaren was way ahead of it 's time in terms of packaging, weight distribution, grip, and build.
The Veyron shows what happens when you can throw money at something.
And, when it's said and done, the Mclaren will command a lot more on the auction block than the Veyron. It just might be commanding Ferrari 250 GTO prices in a few years.
The brakes were not as good? It's night & day there is NO comparison. They F-1 had steel brakes with no ABS the Veyron's brakes are in another league compared. I agree the McLaren's was way ahead of it's time but so is the Veyron. The McLaren is the same as philosophy as the Veyron as far as costs-no-object car , The F-1 was the first car to command $1 Million dollars. New Veyron's are selling for for more than 3 times what a new F-1 was selling for.
The F1 may be getting 250GTO money in a few decades but the Veyron will be right there with it. I loved the F1 when it first came out but the Veyron is on another level just like the P1 is compared to the F1 technology rules the day.
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Not from what I read. Still they are overrated overweight garbage that's good on top speed alone
Give me a laferrari, 918 or P1 any day
I'll take the old McLaren F1 with the bmw v12
Bugatti veyrons aren't enthusiast cars , who cares about top speed only , there's more to a car than simply speed
Overrated? how in what aspect? It's a grand touring car not a track orientated car like the P1 or LaFerrari and it's not good for just top speed alone it's acceleration is legendary and it handles a lot better than you would think and this is according to Gordon Murray who is responsible for the F1
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They do ;)
(http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/autopia/images/2009/04/14/ugandan_car01.jpg)
They are also known for their airplanes
(http://www.diseno-art.com/news_content/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/home-made-African-aircraft.jpg)
I like the rope holding the hood closed. I'm not sure if the FAA would certify this aircraft. :D
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It's funny they make no mention of it in their book. I've read before on multiple sources the rev limiter was removed for the top speed run. It's funny because Gordon Murray was quoted Top speed? The Fl runs into the 7500 rpm redline in sixth at 221 mph—but it's still accelerating. Gordon Murray, the F1's designer, is convinced that with taller gearing, the car is capable of at least 230 mph. It's funny the old customer car any independent car magazine that tested a customer car and it's top speed was ' only ' 217MPH which is close to the 221MPH
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/mclaren-f1-supercar-road-test-review-the-finest-high-performance-production-engine-in-the-world-page-2
Mentions the rev limiter being removed March 1998, it set the record for the world’s fastest production car in the world, reaching 231 mph (372 km/h) with the rev limiter enabled, and 243 mph (391 km/h) with the rev limiter removed.
http://www.wikipediatrade.com/mclaren-f1/
It's ironic because the Veyron Supersport that ran 268MPH had it's rev limiter raised as well and NO customer cars can do it either. They are restricted to 258MPH. You have to hand it to Bugatti to charging almost twice the price of a regular Veyron for a Supersport with a gain of just 5MPH ! 253MPH compared to the SS with 258MPH
The brakes were not as good? It's night & day there is NO comparison. They F-1 had steel brakes with no ABS the Veyron's brakes are in another league compared. I agree the McLaren's was way ahead of it's time but so is the Veyron. The McLaren is the same as philosophy as the Veyron as far as costs-no-object car , The F-1 was the first car to command $1 Million dollars. New Veyron's are selling for for more than 3 times what a new F-1 was selling for.
The F1 may be getting 250GTO money in a few decades but the Veyron will be right there with it. I loved the F1 when it first came out but the Veyron is on another level just like the P1 is compared to the F1 technology rules the day.
I scoured those two pages. When I thought that they said that removed the cats, I got mixed up with the XJ220, they removed the cats at Nardo to make the run at 218. Martin Brundle was driving.
He said it was scary because air was getting under the hood causing it to buckle.
I do remember something about the 243 mph run.
Also, they were talking about the Veyron's depreciation in jalopnik.
Read #3 and #2
http://carbuying.jalopnik.com/four-reasons-why-you-should-never-ever-buy-a-bugatti-v-1616708727/1617624687/+travis (http://carbuying.jalopnik.com/four-reasons-why-you-should-never-ever-buy-a-bugatti-v-1616708727/1617624687/+travis)
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I scoured those two pages. When I thought that they said that removed the cats, I got mixed up with the XJ220, they removed the cats at Nardo to make the run at 218. Martin Brundle was driving.
He said it was scary because air was getting under the hood causing it to buckle.
I do remember something about the 243 mph run.
Also, they were talking about the Veyron's depreciation in jalopnik.
Read #3 and #2
http://carbuying.jalopnik.com/four-reasons-why-you-should-never-ever-buy-a-bugatti-v-1616708727/1617624687/+travis (http://carbuying.jalopnik.com/four-reasons-why-you-should-never-ever-buy-a-bugatti-v-1616708727/1617624687/+travis)
That article about the Veyron depreciating is pure bias. They neglected to mention that McLaren could NOT Sell anymore than just over 100 total , there was simply no interest. Financially the F-1 was a bust
#3 is nonsense because there will be 499 LaFerrari's made ALL are already spoken for. Same with the Enzo which all have been sold.
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That article about the Veyron depreciating is pure bias. They neglected to mention that McLaren could NOT Sell anymore than just over 100 total , there was simply no interest. Financially the F-1 was a bust
#3 is nonsense because there will be 499 LaFerrari's made ALL are already spoken for. Same with the Enzo which all have been sold.
Bugatti is having a hard time selling Veyrons
http://blog.caranddriver.com/bugatti-vows-to-sell-40-remaining-veyrons-before-introducing-its-successor/ (http://blog.caranddriver.com/bugatti-vows-to-sell-40-remaining-veyrons-before-introducing-its-successor/)
And Ferrari and Mclaren will add track versions to laFerrari and P1, I believe with the P1 it will part of the last batch.
With the F1, the supposed last production car was #075 on May 25, 1998. But they actually sold a car based on their display chassis later (I forgot how much later).
TAG Heuer Managing Director Christian Viros advised Mclaren to make it plain that the F1 would be limited. If you believe British record keeping, 107 total Mclaren F1s.
Only really time will tell what the Veyron will go for vs Mclaren.
We can resume this in 10-20 yrs...
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Bugatti is having a hard time selling Veyrons
http://blog.caranddriver.com/bugatti-vows-to-sell-40-remaining-veyrons-before-introducing-its-successor/ (http://blog.caranddriver.com/bugatti-vows-to-sell-40-remaining-veyrons-before-introducing-its-successor/)
And Ferrari and Mclaren will add track versions to laFerrari and P1, I believe with the P1 it will part of the last batch.
With the F1, the supposed last production car was #075 on May 25, 1998. But they actually sold a car based on their display chassis later (I forgot how much later).
TAG Heuer Managing Director Christian Viros advised Mclaren to make it plain that the F1 would be limited. If you believe British record keeping, 107 total Mclaren F1s.
Only really time will tell what the Veyron will go for vs Mclaren.
We can resume this in 10-20 yrs...
Exactly they are having a hard time selling these
And yes to ND it's speed alone , acceleration , top speed is really all that Bugatti is known for
3 mil? 2 mil? No thanks!
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I have the book "Driving Ambition" I think they decatted the car and possibly removed the limiter. I will have to look it up.
But think about it, what did the Veyron bring to the table in terms of advancements?? The DCT was already being used in other products.
The F1 did more with less. It weighed less, seated three, had less horsepower, had a manual, no power steering (I believe)...and it's record stood for a long time. And I believe it went over the 240.1 mph on a third test.
Mario Andretti I believe was the one who drove it to 217 and said that it felt like it could pull another gear.
The Veyron is a masterpiece of what money and engineering can do when you want the world's fastest production car...or world's heaviest fastest production car.
But, now, Ferrari, Porsche, Mclaren are focusing not on top speed anymore, but on 0-60, 0-100, 100-120, etc. and track focus, along with hybrid systems. Now, you have cars eclipsing the Veyron's performance, but not it's top speed. Because they are not focused on that.
So, again what really are the Veyron's advancements?
What made the Veyron great is they made a car that could go faster than any car before just because. Money wasn't an issue, nor were problems that arose constructing it like cooling system (10 radiators), braking for a 2 tonne car going at 250mph etc. It was a work of engineering not something to please shareholders. OK, enough plagiarising Jeremy Clarkson but it was great because it was a case of what could be done, not what should be done to fit budgets and current technological advancements. It also showed you could make luxury superfast. My kid has been in one, and a Ferrari 458, I'm jelly.
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Bugatti is having a hard time selling Veyrons
http://blog.caranddriver.com/bugatti-vows-to-sell-40-remaining-veyrons-before-introducing-its-successor/ (http://blog.caranddriver.com/bugatti-vows-to-sell-40-remaining-veyrons-before-introducing-its-successor/)
And Ferrari and Mclaren will add track versions to laFerrari and P1, I believe with the P1 it will part of the last batch.
With the F1, the supposed last production car was #075 on May 25, 1998. But they actually sold a car based on their display chassis later (I forgot how much later).
TAG Heuer Managing Director Christian Viros advised Mclaren to make it plain that the F1 would be limited. If you believe British record keeping, 107 total Mclaren F1s.
Only really time will tell what the Veyron will go for vs Mclaren.
We can resume this in 10-20 yrs...
Did you even read the article? They sold the initial run of 300 cars , that's three times what McLaren could sell with the F-1 !! Then they added the the ' convertibles ' that were capped at run of a 150 and they're having trouble selling the last 40 and they are having a hard time selling Veyrons? They've sold 410 Veyrons that's 4 times more than the F-1 there is NO comparison between the two. VW is still taking a loss on them however that's not the point , they sold more than McLaren ever did with the F-1
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Exactly they are having a hard time selling these
And yes to ND it's speed alone , acceleration , top speed is really all that Bugatti is known for
3 mil? 2 mil? No thanks!
See above. NO they are not having a hard time selling these.
And again NO it wasn't about just top speed and acceleration , it was about braking as well. And all aspects of performance. Facts are not in your corner.
I understand why you're not a fan but you can't deny it.
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See above. NO they are not having a hard time selling these.
And again NO it wasn't about just top speed and acceleration , it was about braking as well. And all aspects of performance. Facts are not in your corner.
I understand why you're not a fan but you can't deny it.
They cost 5 million to make sold for one million now resell second hand for 3.5million or so.
http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/results/bugatti/veyron.
It was part marketing and part vanity from outgoing head of VW from what I understand.
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They cost 5 million to make sold for one million now resell second hand for 3.5million or so.
http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/results/bugatti/veyron.
It was part marketing and part vanity from outgoing head of VW from what I understand.
One article says they lose a staggering $6.25 million on each car they sell , then in this video Harry Metcalfe from Evo quotes a more modest loss of $500K on each one. Either way they are taking a hit but the point remains they are selling them , sans the last 40 or so
starts about 4:30
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See above. NO they are not having a hard time selling these.
And again NO it wasn't about just top speed and acceleration , it was about braking as well. And all aspects of performance. Facts are not in your corner.
I understand why you're not a fan but you can't deny it.
What facts? It's still a car that was made to go super fast in the top speed, and acceleration
Have u ever been in one?? I have and it's just a fast car, nothing more nothing less, relatively speaking of the price and of course comparisons to other exotic/hyper cars despite it's a "grand tourer"
How much real experience do u have in cars in general? Track Experience? or are u just a car fan? Just curious
Ever drive a ferrari? Porsche gt2's or gt3's?? GTR? Zr1's??
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What facts? It's still a car that was made to go super fast in the top speed, and acceleration
Have u ever been in one?? I have and it's just a fast car, nothing more nothing less, relatively speaking of the price and of course comparisons to other exotic/hyper cars despite it's a "grand tourer"
How much real experience do u have in cars in general? Track Experience? or are u just a car fan? Just curious
Ever drive a ferrari? Porsche gt2's or gt3's?? GTR? Zr1's??
What facts? It's still a car that was made to go super fast in the top speed, and acceleration
Yes it was made just to go fast in a straight line ::) stop trying to simplify the car into nothing more than a Bonneville Salt Flats racer , because it's much , much more than that. You point as well as Parker's point that they are having a hard time selling this is flat out wrong.
Have u ever been in one?? I have and it's just a fast car, nothing more nothing less, relatively speaking of the price and of course comparisons to other exotic/hyper cars despite it's a "grand tourer"
I've never been in one , saw a Supersport in person talked with the owner at length. And what does that mean you've been in one? , and it's much more than just a fast car nothing more nothing less. The car is a technological tour de force amd still holds it own against the hybrid hypercars
How much real experience do u have in cars in general? Track Experience? or are u just a car fan? Just curious
Ever drive a ferrari? Porsche gt2's or gt3's?? GTR? Zr1's??
I've driven in a Ferrari , I've driven a many Porsches including a twin turbo 911. I've also driven a Viper GTS , the only track experience I have is at the drags , I've owned three Mustangs , they last being Supercharged with a ton of work done to it , used to street race. My Brother has had everything from Supercharged Mustangs to worked GTIs Jettas and a worked R32 and now he has a Cobb tuned STI that runs low 11s as well as a R-1 with a ton of work, I've been around fast cars all my life. Not Veyron fast but I'm no stranger to fast cars.
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Looks like a lotus and a bugatti combined
I'm not impressed with the aesthetics :-\
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My old 93 Supercharged LX ;D I miss this car
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I took these shots of the Veyron SS , talked with the owner Ben Chen