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I had the chance to come across a story told to me from reliable sources.
I am not going to name names with whom is involved, but what happened was that there was an NPC competitor with great promise who won a show similar to the Mid-Atlantics but before he was to go on to the USA's he was approached by Weider. At a meeting that included Joe Weider, another youth and what seemed to be the "Blade"... Old Joe saw promise in him and told him .. hey listen we are going to set you up with doctors to monitor your steroid usage and what not so that everything runs smoothly and you are "healthy" but for us to start we need something along the lines of 30 grand or so.. (I wasnt clear on the figure. ) But here is the kicker.... If YOU DONT HAVE THE $$$ there is some guy that will front/sponsor your journey, however you need to pose for him in the nude while he "take cares of himself". After that was said the source of the story got up and walked out of the meeting and bodybuilding as a whole.
Do you guys think that this is true ?? I can tell you that my sources are not one s to lie ... but im just bring the issue to light ..
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i would believe it totally. this is bodybuilding. what do you expect
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what-ever ::)
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I refuse to believe any of that nonsense! There are no gays in or associated with bodybuilding. Never have been and never will be. Pumping up muscles so you can pose to music in a thong for other men is the most heterosexual past time there is! >:(
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Seriously, the story recounted above is very much in line with what I have observed. When I was on the gay muscle/escort board about 4-5 years ago, I can recall one up and comer who joined the board and made it clear he was looking for a sponsor. He was pretty specific: unlike many of the less dedicated muscle wannabes on that site, he wanted ONE substantial sponsor he could “work with” rather than a handful of a small johns with small wallets. In other words he wanted a full time body building sponsor and was not willing to hustle for nickels and dimes. He was already in good shape and made it clear he was willing to do what it took to get ahead.
Soon after he appeared on that site, he disappeared and never came back. Eventually, someone started a thread about him asking whatever happened to him. The moderator reported that he found the sponsor he was looking for and consequently had no reason to remain on the site. He concentrated on his training and the sponsor who made it possible.
Today, he is a competing pro and I chuckle every time I see him on stage or in publicity photos.
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Seriously, the story recounted above is very much in line with what I have observed. When I was on the gay muscle/escort board about 4-5 years ago, I can recall one up and comer who joined the board and made it clear he was looking for a sponsor. He was pretty specific: unlike many of the less dedicated muscle wannabes on that site, he wanted ONE substantial sponsor he could “work with” rather than a handful of a small johns with small wallets. In other words he wanted a full time body building sponsor and was not willing to hustle for nickels and dimes. He was already in good shape and made it clear he was willing to do what it took to get ahead.
Soon after he appeared on that site, he disappeared and never came back. Eventually, someone started a thread about him asking whatever happened to him. The moderator reported that he found the sponsor he was looking for and consequently had no reason to remain on the site. He concentrated on his training and the sponsor who made it possible.
Today, he is a competing pro and I chuckle every time I see him on stage or in publicity photos.
who is he?
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I had the chance to come across a story told to me from reliable sources.
I am not going to name names with whom is involved, but what happened was that there was an NPC competitor with great promise who won a show similar to the Mid-Atlantics but before he was to go on to the USA's he was approached by Weider. At a meeting that included Joe Weider, another youth and what seemed to be the "Blade"... Old Joe saw promise in him and told him .. hey listen we are going to set you up with doctors to monitor your steroid usage and what not so that everything runs smoothly and you are "healthy" but for us to start we need something along the lines of 30 grand or so.. (I wasnt clear on the figure. ) But here is the kicker.... If YOU DONT HAVE THE $$$ there is some guy that will front/sponsor your journey, however you need to pose for him in the nude while he "take cares of himself". After that was said the source of the story got up and walked out of the meeting and bodybuilding as a whole.
Do you guys think that this is true ?? I can tell you that my sources are not one s to lie ... but im just bring the issue to light ..
BS if you ask me.....I know Joe likes to see whatever athlete he wants to sponsor pose (even I did!!) to check their shape etc.....but NOT IN THE NUDE!!! ::) I was with Weider for 4 years and never heard anyone (guys or girls) mention anything like that.....posing yes.....
Lena
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BS if you ask me.....I know Joe likes to see whatever athlete he wants to sponsor pose (even I did!!) to check their shape etc.....but NOT IN THE NUDE!!! ::) I was with Weider for 4 years and never heard anyone (guys or girls) mention anything like that.....posing yes.....
Lena
Maybe you weren't their type.
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my guess melvin..something about him smells sweet..dunno why..
and usually my gaydar is pretty bad..almost broken..
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BS if you ask me.....I know Joe likes to see whatever athlete he wants to sponsor pose (even I did!!) to check their shape etc.....but NOT IN THE NUDE!!! ::) I was with Weider for 4 years and never heard anyone (guys or girls) mention anything like that.....posing yes.....
Lena
well i dont think ladys r joes type by the sounds of it!
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BS if you ask me.....I know Joe likes to see whatever athlete he wants to sponsor pose (even I did!!) to check their shape etc.....but NOT IN THE NUDE!!! ::) I was with Weider for 4 years and never heard anyone (guys or girls) mention anything like that.....posing yes.....
Lena
i bet Lena is hoping that the folks at wieder read this ;D
anyhoo..Lena..of course ya didn't notice anything...you dont have a penis..
see i can be funny on many different levels! :D
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who is he?
I can’t name names publicly* and retain my status with the gay mafia, but I will say he competed at the Arnold and the Iron Man in 2005.
*Sorry, my private messages still aren't working. :'(
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I can’t name names publicly and retain my status with the gay mafia, but I will say he competed at the Arnold and the Iron Man in 2005.
what is the gay mafia?
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hmmmm the plot thickens
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I had the chance to come across a story told to me from reliable sources.
I am not going to name names with whom is involved, but what happened was that there was an NPC competitor with great promise who won a show similar to the Mid-Atlantics but before he was to go on to the USA's he was approached by Weider. At a meeting that included Joe Weider, another youth and what seemed to be the "Blade"... Old Joe saw promise in him and told him .. hey listen we are going to set you up with doctors to monitor your steroid usage and what not so that everything runs smoothly and you are "healthy" but for us to start we need something along the lines of 30 grand or so.. (I wasnt clear on the figure. ) But here is the kicker.... If YOU DONT HAVE THE $$$ there is some guy that will front/sponsor your journey, however you need to pose for him in the nude while he "take cares of himself". After that was said the source of the story got up and walked out of the meeting and bodybuilding as a whole.
Do you guys think that this is true ?? I can tell you that my sources are not one s to lie ... but im just bring the issue to light ..
Why is this such a surprise? It's common knowledge in the industry :-\!
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i doubt weiders dick workds very well nowadays
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I can’t name names publicly and retain my status with the gay mafia
LOL
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has to be one of these nine, as they were the only ones who competed in both shows
Gustavo Badell
Lee Priest
Troy Alves
Melvin Anthony
King Kamali
David Henry
Mark Dugdale
Idrise Ward-El
Frank Roberson
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what is the gay mafia?
It’s a national group of men that maintain a code of silence about who is and isn’t gay, bi, or straight and available on pain of excommunication; it’s a gentleman’s agreement, if you will, that gives me access to certain knowledge (and muscle bodies). Alas, the price of this access is that you can never tell what you know. >:(
If you break the code you're out and lose all the benefits. :P
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This thread is a waste of server space... come on... no offence jae but this is beyond... distraction .. hey look, an eagle... ;)
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has to be one of these nine, as they were the only ones who competed in both shows
Gustavo Badell
Lee Priest
Troy Alves
Melvin Anthony
King Kamali
David Henry
Mark Dugdale
Idrise Ward-El
Frank Roberson
Congratulations! You're smarter than the average bodybuilder! :D
. . . and I would have gotten away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids!
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Congratulations! You're smarter than the average bodybuilder! :D
. . . and I would have gotten away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids!
Bay you're one of the funniest members on this board. ;D
More than likely it was gustavo.
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ah ha..melvin is on that list...
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ah ha..melvin is on that list...
i did the detective work..Bay said he competed in the arnold and ironman, and that is the list
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Its gotta be KING!
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Bay you're one of the funniest members on this board. ;D
Make up your mind!* I get so much fan mail and hate mail, I don’t know if I’m welcome here or not. ;D
*I wonder how many guys here got that Scooby Doo joke. :D
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i did the detective work..Bay said he competed in the arnold and ironman, and that is the list
ok now think..of all them athe..umm bodybuilders..which one is the sweetest?
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Maybe you weren't their type.
Their? Joe W is ONE person my friend ::) Probably not his type - but he signed me up for 4 years. Where's ur contract -- OK - I thought so ;)
L.J
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i bet Lena is hoping that the folks at wieder read this ;D
anyhoo..Lena..of course ya didn't notice anything...you dont have a penis..
see i can be funny on many different levels! :D
Well, I dont think Weider reads these boards.......but never say never ;)
Yes - u r so funny on ALL levels Mr Tox :-*
L.J
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Their? Joe W is ONE person my friend ::) Probably not his type - but he signed me up for 4 years. Where's ur contract -- OK - I thought so ;)
L.J
You settle down, Lena.....
Alot of people have been saying for years that Weider was in to this, all the way back to Arnold's glory days. Weider's sexuality has always been called in to question. Where there's smoke, there's fire.....
If Weider is gay, he wouldn't be interested in you at all.
Realize and Recognize.
DIV
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You settle down, Lena.....
Alot of people have been saying for years that Weider was in to this, all the way back to Arnold's glory days. Weider's sexuality has always been called in to question. Where there's smoke, there's fire.....
If Weider is gay, he wouldn't be interested in you at all.
Realize and Recognize.
DIV
Must be my pregnancy hormons raging.....but I'll try to settle ;)
I know the rumors, but what about Betty :-\
L.J
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Must be my pregnancy hormons raging.....but I'll try to settle ;)
I know the rumors, but what about Betty :-\
L.J
Lena.......
Betty was getting pounded by some of Joe's best stable of bodybuilders.
That's another nasty rumor that has validity. Supposedly he liked to watch.
DIV
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Lena.......
Betty was getting pounded by some of Joe's best stable of bodybuilders.
That's another nasty rumor has has validity. Supposedly he liked to watch.
DIV
GREAT! :-X Don't we luv all the rumors?
Since you seems to 'know' a lot....how's Joe's health these days?
L
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My guess would be Melvin too.
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I believe it all, without question.
FYI Joe was pounding Ben while watching as Betty got hammered. Demilia was on the floor receiving Ben's urine.
Arnold & Maria stopped by as well. No details.
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Bay, can you narrow it down. Say does this person like to wear costumes/masks/props on stage?
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Bay, can you narrow it down. Say does this person like to wear costumes/masks/props on stage?
HAHAHAHA!
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HAHAHAHA!
Think about it, that would put us down too 3..........King, Anthony, Robertson.
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Bay, can you narrow it down. Say does this person like to wear costumes/masks/props on stage?
the choad is too clever, and I've already said too much. The gay mafia is watching! :-[
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Its gotta be KING!
I agree on that one..It has to be king..I rember reading him say that if he didn't get major sponsership he wouldn't compete anymore...I guess this rich guy is/was taking care of him.
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I believe it all, without question.
FYI Joe was pounding Ben while watching as Betty got hammered. Demilia was on the floor receiving Ben's urine.
Arnold & Maria stopped by as well. No details.
THATS what I think too......... :o
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It’s a national group of men that maintain a code of silence about who is and isn’t gay, bi, or straight and available on pain of excommunication; it’s a gentleman’s agreement, if you will, that gives me access to certain knowledge (and muscle bodies). Alas, the price of this access is that you can never tell what you know. >:(
If you break the code you're out and lose all the benefits. :P
sounds like the AOL code of silence
covering all the AOL sociopaths lol
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I can’t name names publicly* and retain my status with the gay mafia, but I will say he competed at the Arnold and the Iron Man in 2005.
*Sorry, my private messages still aren't working. :'(
is baygbm your real name?
name names
otherwise you are a liar
E
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I had the chance to come across a story told to me from reliable sources.
I am not going to name names with whom is involved, but what happened was that there was an NPC competitor with great promise who won a show similar to the Mid-Atlantics but before he was to go on to the USA's he was approached by Weider. At a meeting that included Joe Weider, another youth and what seemed to be the "Blade"... Old Joe saw promise in him and told him .. hey listen we are going to set you up with doctors to monitor your steroid usage and what not so that everything runs smoothly and you are "healthy" but for us to start we need something along the lines of 30 grand or so.. (I wasnt clear on the figure. ) But here is the kicker.... If YOU DONT HAVE THE $$$ there is some guy that will front/sponsor your journey, however you need to pose for him in the nude while he "take cares of himself". After that was said the source of the story got up and walked out of the meeting and bodybuilding as a whole.
Do you guys think that this is true ?? I can tell you that my sources are not one s to lie ... but im just bring the issue to light ..
Yeah, Billionaires usually risk their livelihood on stuff like this. IT sounds very reasonable. Good detective work.
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THATS what I think too......... :o
Lena,
If you were his "flavor" he would be knee-deep in your ass as well, honey.
Understand this.
DIV
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is baygbm your real name?
name names
otherwise you are a liar
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You wish.
I think my credibility here is well established. Anyway, everyone who was on the gay muscle/escort board at the time knows it’s all true. And, some of those guys are on get big right now. In fact, I think I first learned of getbig from the muscle/escort site.
In any event, that pro was not the only one to pass through the muscle/escort site. I can think of three others.
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Yeah, Billionaires usually risk their livelihood on stuff like this. IT sounds very reasonable. Good detective work.
Yeah i mean people like Michael Jackson or OJ Simpson would never do anything wrong cause they have money...So i guess if you have money then you cant do wrong ..good detective work ... are you on CSI Brokeback ?
And the guy im talking about is not the same guy GAyBM is talking bout... the story was a surprised to me cause the kid lived in the same town I grew up in and my boy was talking about it and he doesnt know anything about bodybuilding.
Other than the show he won he never got to the national show because he is an Uber Homophob ( which means he is prob gay too).
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has to be one of these nine, as they were the only ones who competed in both shows
Gustavo Badell
Lee Priest
Troy Alves
Melvin Anthony
King Kamali
David Henry
Mark Dugdale
Idrise Ward-El
Frank Roberson
okay, which guys here came onto the scene 4-5 years ago?
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Make up your mind!* I get so much fan mail and hate mail, I don’t know if I’m welcome here or not. ;D
*I wonder how many guys here got that Scooby Doo joke. :D
....of course I got it...and I would have gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for that pesky Weider and his meddling!
..however, I just can't accept these 'truths' you're spilling. In essence, what you're saying is that Weider was implicated in gay for pay, which in essence is sexual harrassment. In this day and age, with the money Weider has, ONE of those bodybuilders of which you spoke could have made more money in the courts than he EVER would competing by simply bugging himself and record the evidence.
As far as one of 'the list', I suppose that since he pawned himself to the highest bidder, that's a choice he personally made. I'm sure some of the guys out there without the bucks it takes to compete (but with the potential) could do that, I don't know...I'm sure it does.
But you implication is that WEIDER was a kingpin of sorts, or that the IFBB condones this activity.
Of all activities out there, I'd wager bodybuilding takes the most amount of 'hetro-ness' for the simple reason that yes, you ARE watching mostly naked men on stage pose...you have to be pretty confident in your sexuality to be a fan.
Here's a quick check just in case the majority of you out there can't figure it out....as yourself, "Self?....am I sexually turned on by these guys on stage?"...if the answer is YES then you're MOST LIKELY GAY.
If, however, like myself, you say NO to that question, then you're not..however, you'll have to put up with stupid questions and comments from just about every fat slob out there (who has NO idea of the hard work, commitment and drive it takes to be a pro bodybuilder) about "why you're into watching greased up tanned men prance on stage".
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i mean people like Michael Jackson or OJ Simpson would never do anything wrong cause they have money...So i guess if you have money then you cant do wrong
Improbable. Jackson & OJ were/are clearly unstable. Most, exercising reasonable logic, are not going there given the considerable downsides.
If Joe really wanted to go this route he'd hire no-names that weren't involved with contests. You've provided no basis for him to mix business & pleasure.
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Lena,
If you were his "flavor" he would be knee-deep in your ass as well, honey.
Understand this.
DIV
Good thing he dont like Vanilla ::)
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You wish.
I think my credibility here is well established. Anyway, everyone who was on the gay muscle/escort board at the time knows it’s all true. And, some of those guys are on get big right now. In fact, I think I first learned of getbig from the muscle/escort site.
In any event, that pro was not the only one to pass through the muscle/escort site. I can think of three others.
anybody can come here and claim they have inside information
soembody came on this site once and claimed Peter MCgough was dead and he ended up writing a column about it in flex
you're not posting under your real name so what do you have to lose?
the pro you speak of must have used his real name on the excort site so it wouldn't seem like he was too embarrassed
E
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It's called getting a second hanlde on this board - so get one then tell us if you are so scared. Why even mention it in the first place if you "can't tell". Why waste the time?
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It's called getting a second hanlde on this board - so get one then tell us if you are so scared. Why even mention it in the first place if you "can't tell". Why waste the time?
exactly
he's a typical drama queen
E
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..however, I just can't accept these 'truths' you're spilling. In essence, what you're saying is that Weider was implicated in gay for pay, which in essence is sexual harrassment. In this day and age, with the money Weider has, ONE of those bodybuilders of which you spoke could have made more money in the courts than he EVER would competing by simply bugging himself and record the evidence.
As far as one of 'the list', I suppose that since he pawned himself to the highest bidder, that's a choice he personally made. I'm sure some of the guys out there without the bucks it takes to compete (but with the potential) could do that, I don't know...I'm sure it does.
But you implication is that WEIDER was a kingpin of sorts, or that the IFBB condones this activity.
Don’t put words in my mouth. Reread reply #4. In it, I simply said the OP’s comments were very much in line with what I have observed. My comments had nothing to do with Weider... though I have heard a number of unflattering stories about him. :-\
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I simply said the OP’s comments were very much in line with what I have observed. My comments had nothing to do with Weider
To be credible, do more than dance around the issue. Be specific & detailed about conversations and/or actions that you've actually seen, without naming names. Not online comments that anyone could've put forth.
Otherwise, it's all just empty rhetoric.
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My truth about the Weiders post has plenty of proof in it.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=51116.0