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Title: 2014 Tampa Pro - Victor Martinez wins in Tampa - headed to the O
Post by: denarii on August 10, 2014, 02:03:31 AM
But what a wreck compared to his former self...

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/contests/1838-ifbb-tampa-pro/2014/1318-victor-martinez/1318-victor-martinez-213_final.JPG)

Lisa Cross competed

http://www.musculardevelopment.com/contests/bodybuilders/53581-lisa-cross/event/1838-tampa-bay-pro-2014

some of the IFBB women were bigger than the male physiques
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: denarii on August 10, 2014, 02:09:25 AM
damn that oil...

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/contests/1838-ifbb-tampa-pro/2014//1838-ifbb-tampa-pro-14325_final.JPG)

from what I can tell the 2-4th palces were close. Bonac has a narrow physique, Mo was ripped, maybe max wasnt big enough. Bonac should go for 212?
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: mesmorph78 on August 10, 2014, 02:16:23 AM
But what a wreck compared to his former self...

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/contests/1838-ifbb-tampa-pro/2014/1318-victor-martinez/1318-victor-martinez-213_final.JPG)

Lisa Cross competed

http://www.musculardevelopment.com/contests/bodybuilders/53581-lisa-cross/event/1838-tampa-bay-pro-2014

some of the IFBB women were bigger than the male physiques
What do these guys do to their bodies
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: ENZO on August 10, 2014, 02:21:19 AM
I'm glad to see him back, but this was received from the gift department
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: Frank Clairmonte on August 10, 2014, 02:28:04 AM
2007 Mr. Olympia.
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: Bevo on August 10, 2014, 02:45:42 AM
From the pic legs are gone, body looks tired from years of abuse, oil everywhere, insulin and GH really ruined bbing

2007 Vic was the best but overall he looked the best like many others when he turned pro

Funny most competitors look their best when they are amat

When they turn pro the overuse of drugs is very apparent
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: ENZO on August 10, 2014, 02:47:06 AM
From the pic legs are gone, body looks tired from years of abuse, oil everywhere, insulin and GH really ruined bbing

2007 Vic was the best but overall he looked the best like many others when he turned pro

Funny most competitors look their best when they are amat

When they turn pro the overuse of drugs is very apparent

So true
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: denarii on August 10, 2014, 03:00:52 AM
the bis and tris are oiled to hell arent they?
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: Simple Simon on August 10, 2014, 03:02:47 AM
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/contests/1838-ifbb-tampa-pro/2014/1318-victor-martinez/1318-victor-martinez-213_final.JPG)(http://tnation.t-nation.com/forum_images/auto/r/786x0/d/e//deb36_ORIG-Palumbo_2.jpg)
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: ARNIE1947 on August 10, 2014, 03:48:43 AM
But what a wreck compared to his former self...

Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: WillGrant on August 10, 2014, 03:49:54 AM

His posing trunks look prettier though
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: D.O.A. on August 10, 2014, 04:02:15 AM
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/contests/1838-ifbb-tampa-pro/2014/1318-victor-martinez/1318-victor-martinez-213_final.JPG)(http://tnation.t-nation.com/forum_images/auto/r/786x0/d/e//deb36_ORIG-Palumbo_2.jpg)
HAHAHA! That's still a little away but I can see already the resemblance.
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: stavios on August 10, 2014, 04:17:55 AM
his body is shot

time to retire, will never look good again
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 10, 2014, 04:20:17 AM


Wow how the mighty have fallen  :-X
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: stavios on August 10, 2014, 04:20:43 AM
btw I think his 2007 version destroys Phil Heath any day of the week
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: gracie bjj on August 10, 2014, 04:28:26 AM
i was there at the nats in new york city in 2000 n saw vic win the show n turn pro,i honestly think he looked better that night 14 yrs ago than he does now,what the hell happened ???
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: stavios on August 10, 2014, 04:31:57 AM
i was there at the nats in new york city in 2000 n saw vic win the show n turn pro,i honestly think he looked better that night 14 yrs ago than he does now,what the hell happened ???

Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: wes on August 10, 2014, 04:34:54 AM
 :'(
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: gracie bjj on August 10, 2014, 04:37:34 AM
u guys think maybe its a financial thing?im saying that cause alot of top bodybuilders rely heavily on HGH and other expensive drugs, i was thinking if they cant afford it that might b why they dont look their best, its a money game at that level cause whoever got more coin can get more and better drugs n that means better gains imo
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: stavios on August 10, 2014, 04:38:37 AM
u guys think maybe its a financial thing?im saying that cause alot of top bodybuilders rely heavily on HGH and other expensive drugs, i was thinking if they cant afford it that might b why they dont look their best, its a money game at that level cause whoever got more coin can get more and better drugs n that means better gains imo

don't think so

he must have top shmoes fighting to throw some money at him
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: WillGrant on August 10, 2014, 04:38:47 AM
btw I think his 2007 version destroys Phil Heath any day of the week
Yeah man , he was so close that year , nearly took the big one.
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: gracie bjj on August 10, 2014, 04:45:40 AM
don't think so

he must have top shmoes fighting to throw some money at him

thats true stavios,i forgot about those people,maybe vics body and receptors r just shutting down n hes getting older to
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: Royalty on August 10, 2014, 04:56:37 AM
I think that after all the years of training... these pros get bored with training. They lose their motivation. They lose their excitement to train.


I acknowledge that main reason for the "decaying" of these physique's is tied to chronic drug abuse, injuries, and aging.


But I do think that a small cause is actually a loss of training zeal.


Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: affeman on August 10, 2014, 06:10:35 AM
From the pic legs are gone, body looks tired from years of abuse, oil everywhere, insulin and GH really ruined bbing

2007 Vic was the best but overall he looked the best like many others when he turned pro

Funny most competitors look their best when they are amat

When they turn pro the overuse of drugs is very apparent

this

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=330592.0;attach=371609;image)
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: calfzilla on August 10, 2014, 06:16:51 AM
From the pic legs are gone, body looks tired from years of abuse, oil everywhere, insulin and GH really ruined bbing

2007 Vic was the best but overall he looked the best like many others when he turned pro

Funny most competitors look their best when they are amat

When they turn pro the overuse of drugs is very apparent

Yep. Time to retire. He was great at one time but it's over now.
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: Bevo on August 10, 2014, 06:52:59 AM
i was there at the nats in new york city in 2000 n saw vic win the show n turn pro,i honestly think he looked better that night 14 yrs ago than he does now,what the hell happened ???

Exactly! Like my previous post states. Branch, johnnie Jackson, Wolfe, all looked better when amat, or just when they turned pro earlier years

Lots of factors at play here:

Vic was 27 yrs old in 2000, body is fresh, prob relied less on insulin and GH and more on diff compounds of steroids and when he turned pro like many others loaded up the slin/GH combo to the max combined with all other hormones/oils and as the yrs sets in and these guys get older their bodies aren't responding yet they continue to push the envelope ( Vic is in his early 40's but the abuse/tired body look has set in)

If u look at today's NPC guys they mostly all look like shit cause in modern bbing it's all drugs!!

No one gives a fuck about training or dieting hard anymore

Insulin in bbing needs to go! Too many glazed donut looks
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: denarii on August 10, 2014, 07:19:39 AM
Wow how the mighty have fallen  :-X

vic is about twice as thick in the pics on the left... and less oiled.
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: gracie bjj on August 10, 2014, 07:24:28 AM
vic is about twice as thick in the pics on the left... and less oiled.

no doubt,he looked great in pics on left n not that great in other pics on right
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: Shockwave on August 10, 2014, 08:34:41 AM
Vic never really had anything tbat really made him look that special IMO.... but man he should fell apart.
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: gracie bjj on August 10, 2014, 09:15:12 AM
ill tell ya who i thought got robbed that yr,vinnie galante looked like a modern day zane in 2000 nats,i mean he was totally flawless imo,perfect flow n balance.i saw mat duvall there also(rip) n he had some huge ass arms,omg.talk to jay cutler awhile n dorian,ronnie was there also,cutler was so cool man,i talk to him about juice n what i was using n he was answering all my questions,really nice guy
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: Alucard on August 10, 2014, 12:58:01 PM
Martinez should retire, doesn't look good, it's unbelievable how his body badly regressed compared to his peak... Much wider and bloated waist, lost a lot of mass and thickness, especially in the lower body, also in his lats it seems... A shadow of his former self... He will always remain the true Mr Olympia 2007 though, in my opinion...
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: Mr Anabolic on August 10, 2014, 01:07:36 PM
Yep. Time to retire. He was great at one time but it's over now.

Probably doesn't have any other skill-sets and most likely low on cash.  He's an ex-convict.  He would have trouble getting hired as a ditch digger.  He has no other choice but to keep BBing and taking the drugs.  

He'll probably end up on Venice Beach juggling bowling pins.
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: WalterWhite on August 10, 2014, 02:13:21 PM
damn that oil...

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/contests/1838-ifbb-tampa-pro/2014//1838-ifbb-tampa-pro-14325_final.JPG)

from what I can tell the 2-4th palces were close. Bonac has a narrow physique, Mo was ripped, maybe max wasnt big enough. Bonac should go for 212?

Based on his placings Bonac is doing pretty well in the open. Legs are huge and upper body is catching up. At least from pics he looked to have taken Vic and he and Max could have easily been 1,2.  Vic's physique just looks worn. 

Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: denarii on August 10, 2014, 02:22:06 PM
yeah max has high lat insertions and ludicrously oils bi's.
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: stavios on August 10, 2014, 02:50:48 PM
Max has oily arms but he is monstruous and he looked pretty hard and dry

almost Dexter-like condition from the front
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: a_pupil on August 10, 2014, 03:06:00 PM
yeah max has high lat insertions and ludicrously oils bi's.

is this max charles of 'about tree fiddy' fame?
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: Bevo on August 10, 2014, 03:55:11 PM
Probably doesn't have any other skill-sets and most likely low on cash.  He's an ex-convict.  He would have trouble getting hired as a ditch digger.  He has no other choice but to keep BBing and taking the drugs.  

He'll probably end up on Venice Beach juggling bowling pins.

What if he doesn't know how to juggle?
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: Ronnie Rep on August 10, 2014, 04:09:42 PM
2007 Mr. Olympia.
This. He should make the top 10 in the O.
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: Mr Anabolic on August 10, 2014, 04:53:55 PM
What if he doesn't know how to juggle?

There's always G4P.
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: old-school-lifter on August 10, 2014, 05:13:00 PM
vic looks shot
guts blown
palumbosim setting
in

uncrowned 2007 mr O
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 10, 2014, 05:32:49 PM
It's called father time..

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/contests/1838-ifbb-tampa-pro/2014/1318-victor-martinez/1318-victor-martinez-213_final.JPG)
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: beakdoctor on August 10, 2014, 05:37:13 PM
stage 1 palumboism.
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: calfzilla on August 10, 2014, 05:43:43 PM
stage 1 palumboism.

Yep, if not stage 2.
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: Parker on August 10, 2014, 05:45:00 PM
Sad, just sad. Maybe Vic should hang it up, and be a "trainer" to Hip hop stars like Busta Rhymes, Diddy, and others. That could be a legit gig.
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: jude2 on August 10, 2014, 06:07:34 PM

I laughed on other BB sites when they said Victor looks like his old self. No way.
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: Rambone on August 10, 2014, 06:18:59 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=545384.0;attach=574380;image)

Wowsers! What a difference
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 10, 2014, 07:29:18 PM


Bodybuilding has become such a mess. The only reason why follow it somewhat is to see who mutated into what. Martinez looks like dog shit.
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: njflex on August 10, 2014, 07:39:22 PM
ill tell ya who i thought got robbed that yr,vinnie galante looked like a modern day zane in 2000 nats,i mean he was totally flawless imo,perfect flow n balance.i saw mat duvall there also(rip) n he had some huge ass arms,omg.talk to jay cutler awhile n dorian,ronnie was there also,cutler was so cool man,i talk to him about juice n what i was using n he was answering all my questions,really nice guy
vinny had great look 93-2000..turned pro masters 08..def build i admired from jersey and cool guy..
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: GetItOnNY on August 10, 2014, 08:03:38 PM
In Vics Defense.Victor Martinez was in jail for 7 months in the domincan republic.In 2012.Yes that was 2 years ago.But just imagine being in a jail no weight, harldy any food, and the humbling experince.Let me tell you something, having no homrones, no food, no weights, for 7 months can shrvel you dwon to nothing.You receptors are used to getting anabolics,, your body is used to lifting weights.Your body is also used to getting alot of protein.He got neiother for 7 months over some bull shit charges.So kudos for Victor for even coming back to where he is now.Trust me the jail in the Domincan republic are really really rough.I bet not one of you would make it a week in a Dm jail.
Congrats Vic on your come back.It takes alot of courage to do that
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: SF1900 on August 10, 2014, 08:11:03 PM
In Vics Defense.Victor Martinez was in jail for 7 months in the domincan republic.In 2012.Yes that was 2 years ago.But just imagine being in a jail no weight, harldy any food, and the humbling experince.Let me tell you something, having no homrones, no food, no weights, for 7 months can shrvel you dwon to nothing.You receptors are used to getting anabolics,, your body is used to lifting weights.Your body is also used to getting alot of protein.He got neiother for 7 months over some bull shit charges.So kudos for Victor for even coming back to where he is now.Trust me the jail in the Domincan republic are really really rough.I bet not one of you would make it a week in a Dm jail.
Congrats Vic on your come back.It takes alot of courage to do that

His body has been regressing for quite some time.
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: TheOne on August 10, 2014, 08:12:44 PM
So what's happening now?  Is his body rejecting the drugs he is putting in now?  If he was using a certain protocol lets say 5 years ago and the same one for this show is it giving a different look merely because its 5 years later and his body is tired of creating the anabolic response is needs to give a certain look?  I'm just trying to understand why he looks like he has early stages of palumboism?  I feel bad for the guy but he looks like something is really wrong with his body.
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: Cableguy on August 10, 2014, 08:19:57 PM
They all looked better as amateurs. More like 90's pros.
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: TristenEsco on August 10, 2014, 08:33:09 PM
So what's happening now?  Is his body rejecting the drugs he is putting in now?  If he was using a certain protocol lets say 5 years ago and the same one for this show is it giving a different look merely because its 5 years later and his body is tired of creating the anabolic response is needs to give a certain look?  I'm just trying to understand why he looks like he has early stages of palumboism?  I feel bad for the guy but he looks like something is really wrong with his body.

There are a plethora of things that could have went wrong during prep that caused this (not peaking at the right time, bad reaction to carb load, diuretic not setting properly etc.) No one but him or his prep coach will be able to give a definitive answer.

That being said, these are a bad set of pics and he looked better in others. He has his work cut out for him to get back to his best, but i wouldn't stick a fork in him yet.
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: delta9mda on August 10, 2014, 08:40:00 PM
Wowsers! What a difference

im calling shop on the left side vic pix.
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: chaos on August 10, 2014, 08:42:27 PM
Yes, must have missed his carb load, couldn't be the last 20 years of ever increasing drugs. ::)
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: SF1900 on August 10, 2014, 08:45:02 PM
Yes, must have missed his carb load, couldn't be the last 20 years of ever increasing drugs. ::)

x2.

Has absolutely nothing to do with abusing ones body. He must have not eaten his sweet potato 28.45 hours before the contest. That is what did him in!
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: TristenEsco on August 10, 2014, 08:48:02 PM
Have either of you ever competed? If you had, you'd know your look could drastically change in a matter of hours

I know it's easier to blame drugs, but don't speak like your informed when you're not.
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: chaos on August 10, 2014, 08:49:52 PM
Have either of you ever competed? If you had, you'd know your look could drastically change in a matter of hours

I know it's easier to blame drugs, but don't speak like your informed when you're not.
Common sense be damned!
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on August 10, 2014, 08:50:50 PM
VIC WINS TAMPA...Who cares there's a sale at Penny's :-\


Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: chaos on August 10, 2014, 08:52:20 PM
VIC WINS TAMPA...Who cares there's a sale at Penny's :-\



G&O doesn't even have a sticky for this show...how important could it have been?
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: TristenEsco on August 10, 2014, 08:56:49 PM
Common sense be damned!

I'm positive you have no sense in regards to prepping for a pro show
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: chaos on August 10, 2014, 08:59:57 PM
I'm positive you have no sense in regards to prepping for a pro show
Lol and you do, punk rank amateur.
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: TristenEsco on August 10, 2014, 09:02:07 PM
Lol and you do, punk rank amateur.

Plenty actually, trollop.
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: chaos on August 10, 2014, 09:03:21 PM
Plenty actually, trollop.
Go ahead and list the pros you've prepped....
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: michael arvilla on August 10, 2014, 09:06:32 PM
A "Wreck?!?!?" ........umm  ya ok...
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: TristenEsco on August 10, 2014, 09:11:06 PM
Go ahead and list the pros you've prepped....

I never said I prepped any pro's but I'm very knowledgeable in how their prep works. Max Charles being 1 of them who competed in this show because I'm tight with his new guidance John Casalena. I know his whole protocol, diet and training

You on the other hand don't know shit outside the re worked gossip you read on the web
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: Rambone on August 10, 2014, 09:14:03 PM
VIC WINS TAMPA...Who cares there's a sale at Penny's :-\




(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Y7uuhZSibAA/T9TnCJuaFtI/AAAAAAAADYA/5UJVhE_I7xw/s1600/Airplane+1980.2.jpg)

Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: michael arvilla on August 10, 2014, 09:14:23 PM
.......Tampa this weekend...
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: TristenEsco on August 10, 2014, 09:16:29 PM
.......Tampa this weekend...

Yup he's washed up    ::)
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: SF1900 on August 10, 2014, 09:19:22 PM
I never said I prepped any pro's but I'm very knowledgeable in how their prep works. Max Charles being 1 of them who competed in this show because I'm tight with his new guidance John Casalena. I know his whole protocol, diet and training

You on the other hand don't know shit outside the re worked gossip you read on the web

Damn son, throwing out the big dawgs. Knowing Max Charles and John Casalena is equivalent to knowing the worlds leading thinkers such as Dawkins, Harris, Chomsky, Dalai Lama, Higgs, Nagel, Pinker, and Singer, etc. Once youre in with Max Charles and John Casalena, you know you're set!
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: TristenEsco on August 10, 2014, 09:23:42 PM
Damn son, throwing out the big dawgs. Knowing Max Charles and John Casalena is equivalent to knowing the worlds leading thinkers such as Dawkins, Harris, Chomsky, Dalai Lama, Higgs, Nagel, Pinker, and Singer, etc. Once youre in with Max Charles and John Casalena, you know you're set!

How about I throw out my own coach Fak, who has 47 pro cards under his belt. Troll better.
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: SF1900 on August 10, 2014, 09:27:44 PM
How about I throw out my own coach Fak, who has 47 pro cards under his belt. Troll better.

47 pro cards? Shit, dude is clearly having an impact on people.
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: Roger Bacon on August 10, 2014, 09:28:25 PM
Damn son, throwing out the big dawgs. Knowing Max Charles and John Casalena is equivalent to knowing the worlds leading thinkers such as Dawkins, Harris, Chomsky, Dalai Lama, Higgs, Nagel, Pinker, and Singer, etc. Once youre in with Max Charles and John Casalena, you know you're set!

ROFL... taking no prisoners  ;D
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: ENZO on August 10, 2014, 09:31:55 PM
47 pro cards? Shit, dude is clearly having an impact on people.

Just stfu..you've never pinned a needle or competed and probably don't even train. Yet you want to argue a national competitor on show prep. You clowns are something else
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: michael arvilla on August 10, 2014, 09:32:32 PM
Maxx Charles was unbelievable!
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: SF1900 on August 10, 2014, 09:35:49 PM
Just stfu..you've never pinned a needle or competed and probably don't even train. Yet you want to argue a national competitor on show prep. You clowns are something else

I know, how pathetic of me never to have pinned a needle!  :o :o

And yes, I do train.

Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: SF1900 on August 10, 2014, 09:36:48 PM
Maxx Charles was unbelievable!

I knew I recognized him. Was part of the Higgs Boson team. Dude flexed and created a particle. Must have been the start of the Big Bang.
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: Primemuscle on August 10, 2014, 09:37:28 PM
Have either of you ever competed? If you had, you'd know your look could drastically change in a matter of hours

I know it's easier to blame drugs, but don't speak like your informed when you're not.

Surely, you've noticed how there are those around here who jump on the rip a guy apart bandwagon at the drop of a hat. It's actually quite laughable....arm chair critics.
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: TristenEsco on August 10, 2014, 09:41:23 PM
Maxx Charles was unbelievable!

Yup, if only any of you knew the type of shit he was doing before my boys took over. He has so much untapped potential that will be released
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 10, 2014, 09:42:45 PM
Have either of you ever competed? If you had, you'd know your look could drastically change in a matter of hours

I know it's easier to blame drugs, but don't speak like your informed when you're not.

I'm pretty informed and he looks like shit. Look at the comparisons with him. Your body doesn't change that much in a few hours or a few days. You've got be joking.
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: TristenEsco on August 10, 2014, 09:50:05 PM
I'm pretty informed and he looks like shit. Look at the comparisons with him. Your body doesn't change that much in a few hours or a few days. You've got be joking.

I see the photos and he obviously missed his peak for reasons none of us know. And if he looks like "shit" I'd hate to know how you felt about yourself on your last showing
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: michael arvilla on August 10, 2014, 09:57:22 PM
maxx
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: Royalty on August 10, 2014, 09:57:38 PM
A "Wreck?!?!?" ........umm  ya ok...

His Midsection is larger now than it was when he was in his prime (2003-2007)
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 10, 2014, 10:04:39 PM
I see the photos and he obviously missed his peak for reasons none of us know. And if he looks like "shit" I'd hate to know how you felt about yourself on your last showing

Well..I didn't compete for 19 years prior to that. I managed to miss the top 5 in both the Masters heavyweight and Light Hvy open where I was about 15-20 years older than 95% of that class. That being said I was happy. If I would have competed more after that there's no doubt in my mind I would have won at least my class at the Masters Nationals. But I'm smart. I'm not willing to put myself through that for nothing. My last show was 19 years before that and I haven't competed since. No regrets.

Those two comparisons were more than missing a peak. He lost mass all around plus look flat. Even if he would have filled out, he would never see the day that he looked in those previous pics. Didn't you say you've been training for like 6 years or something like that?
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: WalterWhite on August 10, 2014, 10:09:06 PM
In Vics Defense.Victor Martinez was in jail for 7 months in the domincan republic.In 2012.Yes that was 2 years ago.But just imagine being in a jail no weight, harldy any food, and the humbling experince.Let me tell you something, having no homrones, no food, no weights, for 7 months can shrvel you dwon to nothing.You receptors are used to getting anabolics,, your body is used to lifting weights.Your body is also used to getting alot of protein.He got neiother for 7 months over some bull shit charges.So kudos for Victor for even coming back to where he is now.Trust me the jail in the Domincan republic are really really rough.I bet not one of you would make it a week in a Dm jail.
Congrats Vic on your come back.It takes alot of courage to do that

Check your facts he was jailed in NJ at the Hudson County Correctional Facility. He did really hard time. ::)
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: michael arvilla on August 10, 2014, 10:14:56 PM
His Midsection is larger now than it was when he was in his prime (2003-2007)
agree..........however far from a "wreck" imo   ...
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: TristenEsco on August 10, 2014, 10:28:02 PM
Well..I didn't compete for 19 years prior to that. I managed to miss the top 5 in both the Masters heavyweight and Light Hvy open where I was about 15-20 years older than 95% of that class. That being said I was happy. If I would have competed more after that there's no doubt in my mind I would have won at least my class at the Masters Nationals. But I'm smart. I'm not willing to put myself through that for nothing. My last show was 19 years before that and I haven't competed since. No regrets.

Those two comparisons were more than missing a peak. He lost mass all around plus look flat. Even if he would have filled out, he would never see the day that he looked in those previous pics. Didn't you say you've been training for like 6 years or something like that?

Let's see between 2007 and now, Vic had a severe knee injury, served 2 jail stints, had a sister murdered and lost a few businesses. How dare he not look like he did at his peak, the horror

The photos I was comparing were the new ones from this show against the other competitors

And I've been busting my ass for 8 years. I've only placed 1st, 2nd or 3rd. Run your credentials down all day, even if they actually were impressive they don't make up for the pompous dick you are on here.
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 10, 2014, 10:54:42 PM
Let's see between 2007 and now, Vic had a severe knee injury, served 2 jail stints, had a sister murdered and lost a few businesses. How dare he not look like he did at his peak, the horror

The photos I was comparing were the new ones from this show against the other competitors

And I've been busting my ass for 8 years. I've only placed 1st, 2nd or 3rd. Run your credentials down all day, even if they actually were impressive they don't make up for the pompous dick you are on here.


Fuck off pretty boy. You mentioned that he "missed his peak" and now you're making excuses for him as to why he looked like shit compared to what he used to. Welcome to bodybuilding son where drugs take priority over training and diet at least by today's standards. If it's all the same, I had a torn meniscus, grade 1 tear in my ACL and a strained MCL 5 weeks prior to my show, you're making excuses for Martinez for the past 2-3 years. If he or his trainer didn't think he was ready then why did he fucking do it?
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: TristenEsco on August 10, 2014, 11:10:15 PM
Fuck off pretty boy. You mentioned that he "missed his peak" and now you're making excuses for him as to why he looked like shit compared to what he used to. Welcome to bodybuilding son where drugs take priority over training and diet at least by today's standards. If it's all the same, I had a torn meniscus, grade 1 tear in my ACL and a strained MCL 5 weeks prior to my show, you're making excuses for Martinez for the past 2-3 years. If he or his trainer didn't think he was ready then why did he fucking do it?

Reading comprehension obviously isn't your best field. I said he missed his peak for reasons none of us know and he has work to do to get back to his old look but he is not finished. I never said he looked like shit so there is nothing for me to justify. I was just explaining to a jackass like you that complications happen and everything is not black and white.

I hate to disturb the sensationalize train, but he placed 1st and his career is not over.
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: kreator on August 10, 2014, 11:28:44 PM
i still don't get what drives an adult to put on a thong, oil up and flex muscles live in front of strangers, is it vanity? I thought beauty paegants were for women and queers
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: Simple Simon on August 10, 2014, 11:31:36 PM
Fuck off pretty boy. You mentioned that he "missed his peak" and now you're making excuses for him as to why he looked like shit compared to what he used to. Welcome to bodybuilding son where drugs take priority over training and diet at least by today's standards. If it's all the same, I had a torn meniscus, grade 1 tear in my ACL and a strained MCL 5 weeks prior to my show, you're making excuses for Martinez for the past 2-3 years. If he or his trainer didn't think he was ready then why did he fucking do it?

Put the ego back in its box and train smarter then.
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: falco on August 11, 2014, 03:14:15 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=545384.0;attach=574514;image)

Lot of cc's on the farah biceps.
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: Bevo on August 11, 2014, 03:33:06 AM
47 pro cards? Shit, dude is clearly having an impact on people.

 ;D
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: Bevo on August 11, 2014, 03:38:46 AM
Let's see between 2007 and now, Vic had a severe knee injury, served 2 jail stints, had a sister murdered and lost a few businesses. How dare he not look like he did at his peak, the horror

The photos I was comparing were the new ones from this show against the other competitors

And I've been busting my ass for 8 years. I've only placed 1st, 2nd or 3rd. Run your credentials down all day, even if they actually were impressive they don't make up for the pompous dick you are on here.


U also gotta consider 2007 is also 7 years ago!!

That's a long time , plus Vic is no dexter
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: gracie bjj on August 11, 2014, 03:42:19 AM
Check your facts he was jailed in NJ at the Hudson County Correctional Facility. He did really hard time. ::)

if im not mistaken hudson county jail is pretty bad n aint no country club,horrible food n no weights, im sure if he wanted to he coulda had juice snuck in,i did ;)
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: Hurricane Beef ! on August 11, 2014, 04:13:09 AM
vinny had great look 93-2000..turned pro masters 08..def build i admired from jersey and cool guy..

A fantastic BB.

THE BEEF
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: Hurricane Beef ! on August 11, 2014, 04:14:05 AM
A "Wreck?!?!?" ........umm  ya ok...

You are still one huge boy, Mike.

THE BEEF
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: Cleanest Natural on August 11, 2014, 04:28:36 AM
He will never come back to 2007 or so... it has been and will be downhill no matter what he will do.
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: michael arvilla on August 11, 2014, 07:11:08 AM
You are still one huge boy, Mike.

THE BEEF
Thanks HB! .... ;)
check out Maxx Charles in this shot
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on August 11, 2014, 07:14:13 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=545384.0;attach=574514;image)

Lot of cc's on the farah biceps.

Vic looks great here.
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: kreator on August 11, 2014, 07:39:55 AM
are they both ex convicts?
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: michael arvilla on August 11, 2014, 08:05:23 AM
......
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: OneMoreRep on August 11, 2014, 08:53:15 AM
Good for Victor!

It's been a while since Victor won a show. I'm glad he delivered.

While Victor still has the same trainer (Victor Muņoz) and a good prep-guru, the years of injuries and cycling of steroids have taken their toll.

He did suffer from a torn ACL and a fractured right arm, but those injuries aside, I think Vic should look into other ventures within the bodybuilding industry.

His true prime was between 2003-2007. Past that point, he has never looked the same and he knows it. I think the bigger issue stems from the fact that Victor tried other approaches to making money in this industry (Victor's Gym, The Muscle Maker Grill etc.) and now he is probably trying to determine what is going to work best for him moving forward.

Believe it or not (although this is going to sound absolutely crazy to most of you), I think Victor can actually open up a phenomenal gym. So as long as he doesn't partner up with any girlfriends to co-own/run/manage the gym with, he can potentially do something worthwhile. Not many know what truly went down with Victor's Gym. I was there and saw it open its doors and was consequently there on the same day when the gates were brought down midway through a Friday evening. Clearly, he would need a lesson or two in running a business and someone to properly manage his finances for the business, but finances/accounting aside, he knows what an awesome looking gym should look like. He also has many good friends that are personal trainers and designers that can help establish an amazing workout complex.

Lesson to be learned: "Never open a business under your name, yet have a silent investor calling all the shots"...

"1"
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: MCWAY on August 11, 2014, 10:53:19 AM
U also gotta consider 2007 is also 7 years ago!!

That's a long time , plus Vic is no dexter

If Martinez hadn't blown his knee in 2008, Dexter Jackson may not have that Sandow on his mantle.
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: Primemuscle on August 11, 2014, 10:57:51 AM
Victor may not look as good as he did in 2007. It could be he's not in as good a condition, or it might be bad lighting and any number of other reasons. He is in a whole lot better condition than I am, so I am not going to rag on him.
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: michael arvilla on August 11, 2014, 11:24:57 AM
make no mistake Victor looked good here!
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: Simple Simon on August 11, 2014, 11:25:38 AM
Is that Don Long?
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: Neptune100 on August 11, 2014, 11:28:03 AM
Victor looked smaller and less full, but still one of the 10 best bodybuilders in the world.  If Victor can come in perfect form, he can still be top 5 Olympia. Its too bad he got screwed out of an Olympia victory(the worst screwjob outside of Franco).
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: gracie bjj on August 11, 2014, 11:30:29 AM
Is that Don Long?

yes
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: michael arvilla on August 11, 2014, 11:42:38 AM
Manny Romero impressed me as well
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 11, 2014, 11:47:16 AM
Put the ego back in its box and train smarter then.

I don't compete anymore so my ego is well in check.
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: French on August 11, 2014, 12:40:32 PM

The next big thing ? 
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: njflex on August 11, 2014, 01:05:08 PM
The next big thing ? 
BIG DUDE,
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: michael arvilla on August 11, 2014, 01:21:03 PM
more...
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: Wiggs on August 11, 2014, 01:22:26 PM
more...

What the hell is going on with this Hebrews shoulders in the first pic?
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on August 11, 2014, 01:22:45 PM
Good for Victor!

It's been a while since Victor won a show. I'm glad he delivered.

While Victor still has the same trainer (Victor Muņoz) and a good prep-guru, the years of injuries and cycling of steroids have taken their toll.

He did suffer from a torn ACL and a fractured right arm, but those injuries aside, I think Vic should look into other ventures within the bodybuilding industry.

His true prime was between 2003-2007. Past that point, he has never looked the same and he knows it. I think the bigger issue stems from the fact that Victor tried other approaches to making money in this industry (Victor's Gym, The Muscle Maker Grill etc.) and now he is probably trying to determine what is going to work best for him moving forward.

Believe it or not (although this is going to sound absolutely crazy to most of you), I think Victor can actually open up a phenomenal gym. So as long as he doesn't partner up with any girlfriends to co-own/run/manage the gym with, he can potentially do something worthwhile. Not many know what truly went down with Victor's Gym. I was there and saw it open its doors and was consequently there on the same day when the gates were brought down midway through a Friday evening. Clearly, he would need a lesson or two in running a business and someone to properly manage his finances for the business, but finances/accounting aside, he knows what an awesome looking gym should look like. He also has many good friends that are personal trainers and designers that can help establish an amazing workout complex.

Lesson to be learned: "Never open a business under your name, yet have a silent investor calling all the shots"...

"1"

Is The Muscle Maker Grill still in business?
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: Jizmo on August 11, 2014, 01:24:55 PM
The next big thing ? 

so much oil in his delts...
not a SINGLE delt striation on stage, is this real life?
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: calfzilla on August 11, 2014, 01:25:43 PM
Please rid insulin from bodybuilding.
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on August 11, 2014, 01:37:28 PM
serious question:

If they will give an IFBB pro show to a 2x convict, then why won't they give the Olympia to a grapefruit fucker? Let's see what happens at the Olympia this year...
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: michael arvilla on August 11, 2014, 01:38:33 PM
.......Ben White
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: Simple Simon on August 11, 2014, 01:42:12 PM
so much oil in his delts...
not a SINGLE delt striation on stage, is this real life?
(http://www.rbimba.lt/efoto/images/tn_594_2012_aykutlug.jpg)
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: Parker on August 11, 2014, 02:00:06 PM
Manny Romero impressed me as well
Looks like Donald Faison from Scrubs.
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: michael arvilla on August 11, 2014, 02:10:31 PM
Looks like Donald Faison from Scrubs.
lol!  (I had to google)
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: Simple Simon on August 11, 2014, 02:31:01 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=545384.0;attach=574596;image)(http://passandoaregua.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/synthol-victims49.jpg)
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: thebrink on August 11, 2014, 02:41:16 PM
From the pic legs are gone, body looks tired from years of abuse, oil everywhere, insulin and GH really ruined bbing

2007 Vic was the best but overall he looked the best like many others when he turned pro

Funny most competitors look their best when they are amat

When they turn pro the overuse of drugs is very apparent

Early signs of palumboism are showing too.
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: michael arvilla on August 11, 2014, 05:58:51 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: michael arvilla on August 11, 2014, 06:01:45 PM
Big Ben White
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: Slik on August 11, 2014, 07:06:05 PM
Big Ben White
legs r ripped. Did he have Gyno surg gone wrong?  Like took too much out?
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: jude2 on August 11, 2014, 09:41:34 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=545384.0;attach=574596;image)(http://passandoaregua.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/synthol-victims49.jpg)
They train at the same gym.
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: jude2 on August 11, 2014, 10:01:16 PM
You want to see someones physique completely change in a few months.  Someone post a pic of Ava Cowan from the physique at this show, she is the one that Layne Norton was coaching.
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: Roger Bacon on August 11, 2014, 10:05:45 PM
You want to see someones physique completely change in a few months.  Someone post a pic of Ava Cowan from the physique at this show, she is the one that Layne Norton was coaching.

Why does everyone get down on Layne? He seems to be the only person that knows anything in bodybuilding.
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: jude2 on August 11, 2014, 10:17:16 PM
Why does everyone get down on Layne? He seems to be the only person that knows anything in bodybuilding.
Wait until on of my young computer wizards post her contest pic from Tampa. This thread will live on.
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: TristenEsco on August 11, 2014, 10:31:13 PM
She looked softer than a newborn baby. Her and Joey used to be 'good friends'
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: SF1900 on August 11, 2014, 10:33:24 PM
She looked softer than a newborn baby. Her and Joey used to be 'good friends'

Tristen, what impact do you think bodybuilding and the IFBB has had on communities, and society as a whole?
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: TristenEsco on August 11, 2014, 10:34:48 PM
Tristen, what impact do you think bodybuilding and the IFBB has had on communities, and society as a whole?

16000 post of your life
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: Antonio fella on August 11, 2014, 10:35:42 PM
There are a plethora of things that could have went wrong during prep that caused this (not peaking at the right time, bad reaction to carb load, diuretic not setting properly etc.) No one but him or his prep coach will be able to give a definitive answer.

That being said, these are a bad set of pics and he looked better in others. He has his work cut out for him to get back to his best, but i wouldn't stick a fork in him yet.

Good post!

Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: Antonio fella on August 11, 2014, 10:36:49 PM
......
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=545384.0;attach=574554;image)

his abs are so streched out and gut is just looks not right anymore... it just ruins all look no matter what he will do
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: Agent69 on August 11, 2014, 10:46:40 PM
Why does everyone get down on Layne? He seems to be the only person that knows anything in bodybuilding.
seriously this guy is a complete turd.. another book worm who THINKS he knows his shit when it comes to contest prep. who the fuck has he ever trained in the npc/ ifbb that has done anything like win..his on going ramblings about food and how they work and what you can eat during prep are completely moronic.
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: gib on August 12, 2014, 12:36:02 AM
Definately early symptoms of Palumboism happening there ...
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: michael arvilla on August 12, 2014, 04:31:54 AM
You want to see someones physique completely change in a few months.  Someone post a pic of Ava Cowan from the physique at this show, she is the one that Layne Norton was coaching.
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: michael arvilla on August 12, 2014, 04:41:17 AM
...
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 12, 2014, 04:46:25 AM


Female Palumboism...
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: jude2 on August 12, 2014, 07:18:28 AM
Female Palumboism...
You remember how fine she use to be?
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: Simple Simon on August 12, 2014, 07:32:42 AM
You remember how fine she use to be?
(http://gallery.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/DER_6321_FIYIZLJNNS.jpg)
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: michael arvilla on August 12, 2014, 07:45:03 AM
You remember how fine she use to be?
  I do!
Title: Re: 2014 Tampa Pro - Victor Martinez wins in Tampa - headed to the O
Post by: michael arvilla on August 12, 2014, 11:33:14 AM
Don't call it a comeback....
Title: Re: 2014 Tampa Pro - Victor Martinez wins in Tampa - headed to the O
Post by: falco on August 12, 2014, 01:02:09 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=545384.0;attach=574588;image)

Glad to see Don Long still alive and healthy.
Title: Re: 2014 Tampa Pro - Victor Martinez wins in Tampa - headed to the O
Post by: jude2 on August 12, 2014, 01:30:50 PM
Mark your the man. Thanks for the pics
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: MCWAY on August 12, 2014, 02:40:52 PM


WOW! Actually with the extra smoothness, she looks even better.
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: MCWAY on August 12, 2014, 02:43:56 PM
serious question:

If they will give an IFBB pro show to a 2x convict, then why won't they give the Olympia to a grapefruit fucker? Let's see what happens at the Olympia this year...

Two Olympias have posed butt-naked (Scott and Schwarzenegger). And supposedly another Mr. O is gay (Dickerson). So, apparently that isn't an issue as far as who gets the title.
Title: Re: 2014 Tampa Pro - Victor Martinez wins in Tampa - headed to the O
Post by: Antonio fella on August 12, 2014, 02:48:43 PM
lol Dave Palumbo predicting top6 at mr. O for Vic....hmmmm

&list
Title: Re: 2014 Tampa Pro - Victor Martinez wins in Tampa - headed to the O
Post by: jamesjenkinsfitness on August 13, 2014, 06:32:16 AM
Only here will people rip apart a guy who looks great and have these crazy arguments. Lol... gotta love it.
So the people saying he looks like shit, look better? He's 41, turned pro 14 years ago, probably been training 25 plus years.
Throw In however many variables.  He's been pushing his body's limits for how many years?  How you respond to things change both drugs diets etc. And let's not forget he's 41! Looks good to me.
Title: Re: 2014 Tampa Pro - Victor Martinez wins in Tampa - headed to the O
Post by: njflex on August 13, 2014, 08:54:05 AM
Only here will people rip apart a guy who looks great and have these crazy arguments. Lol... gotta love it.
So the people saying he looks like shit, look better? He's 41, turned pro 14 years ago, probably been training 25 plus years.
Throw In however many variables.  He's been pushing his body's limits for how many years?  How you respond to things change both drugs diets etc. And let's not forget he's 41! Looks good to me.
BINGO..
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: MAXX on August 13, 2014, 03:27:05 PM
...
because she went off the drugs she was taking
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: jude2 on August 13, 2014, 06:55:24 PM
because she went off the drugs she was taking
But Layne said she is a life time Natty like him.
Title: Re: 2014 Tampa Pro - Victor Martinez wins in Tampa - headed to the O
Post by: Parker on August 13, 2014, 07:09:14 PM
Only here will people rip apart a guy who looks great and have these crazy arguments. Lol... gotta love it.
So the people saying he looks like shit, look better? He's 41, turned pro 14 years ago, probably been training 25 plus years.
Throw In however many variables.  He's been pushing his body's limits for how many years?  How you respond to things change both drugs diets etc. And let's not forget he's 41! Looks good to me.
But then you have guys like Vince Taylor who at the same age looked better, and even older looked better. And then you have Albert Beckles who at 40-50+ yrs old looked better than Vic does now.
Vic's window is gone...unless he can find some miracle drug, dude is just putting his body through un-necessary trauma and hardship.

He needs to team up with Levrone and open up a micro-brewery or something and call  it "Unfulfilled Destiny".
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 14, 2014, 01:08:59 AM
You remember how fine she use to be?

Yeah I do, she was involved in a car accident and I remember her passive aggressive update post. Is she still running a supp store?
Title: Re: 2014 Tampa Pro - Victor Martinez wins in Tampa - headed to the O
Post by: michael arvilla on August 14, 2014, 09:25:43 AM
.........
Title: Re: 2014 Tampa Pro - Victor Martinez wins in Tampa - headed to the O
Post by: njflex on August 14, 2014, 09:32:44 AM
.........
gym pics always look best ,,oil and good or bad lighting/or mistimed peak washes u out on any stage,,gym pics show best /hide worst..
Title: Re: 2014 Tampa Pro - Victor Martinez wins in Tampa - headed to the O
Post by: michael arvilla on August 14, 2014, 09:34:37 AM
jesus fucking Christ lol!........give the guy some credit....he is 41....looks great and just won a very competitive Pro-Show!
so he doesn't look as good as his "prime"  who the fuck does?!?!?
Title: Re: 2014 Tampa Pro - Victor Martinez wins in Tampa - headed to the O
Post by: njflex on August 14, 2014, 09:35:44 AM
jesus fucking Christ lol!........give the guy some credit....he is 41....looks great and just won a very competitive Pro-Show!
so he doesn't look as good as his "prime"  who the fuck does?!?!?
some pics here mike he looks good...I agree..
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: milone79 on August 14, 2014, 10:06:06 AM


Did she even diet??? LOL  Layne Nordstrom helped this???? hahahahaha
Title: Re: Vic wins in Tampa
Post by: milone79 on August 14, 2014, 10:06:48 AM
...


da fuq????