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President Obama must really be teed off.
Hillary Rodham Clinton, his once-loyal secretary of state and his likeliest successor, has gone rogue, criticizing his foreign policy as too timid.
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Obama responded with not one but two rounds of golf.
Clinton, in an interview with Jeffrey Goldberg published by the Atlantic over the weekend, offered a withering comment on the Obama doctrine, described in shorthand by White House officials as “don’t do stupid s---.” Said Clinton: “Great nations need organizing principles, and ‘Don’t do stupid stuff’ is not an organizing principle.”
As the criticism became public, Obama was doggedly sticking with his plans to go on vacation — a decision that, if not in the category of stupid stuff, could fit under the heading of “tone deafness.”
President Obama said that he and Vice President Biden congratulated newly appointed Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi Monday, but continued to urge him to strive for the creation of a new inclusive Iraqi government. (AP)
Obama stood on the South Lawn on Saturday updating Americans on the new bombing campaign in Iraq — and then he boarded Marine One for a two-week trip to Martha’s Vineyard. There, half an hour after arriving at his vacation home, he was already on his way to a golf course. He played again Sunday, then had a beach outing Monday followed by a political fundraiser.
Even presidents need down time, and Obama can handle his commander-in-chief duties wherever he is. But his decision to proceed with his getaway just 36 hours after announcing the military action in Iraq risks fueling the impression that he is detached as the world burns.
The highly visible wartime vacation (Obama allowed himself to be photographed on a putting green Saturday with NBA star Ray Allen and retired pro-football player Ahmad Rashad) was not looking any better Monday as Iraq’s political crisis worsened, NATO’s chief declared a “high probability” of Russian military intervention in Ukraine and Gaza remained on a knife edge.
By Monday afternoon, the crises had forced Obama to revise his schedule. The White House announced that the president, after returning from the beach, would make an unscheduled statement about Iraq. He freshened up at his 8,100-square-foot vacation home, then stepped outside, in a blue blazer and open collar; his aides wisely chose a wooded backdrop rather than one with the infinity pool and the sweeping water views. Obama finished his four-minute statement and then hopped in his motorcade for the ride to a Democratic fundraiser.
Such visuals probably won’t help Obama with the 60 percent of Americans who disapprove of his handling of foreign policy. Even his former secretary of state is registering her disapproval.
Clinton, in the interview, took a harder line than the administration has on Iran, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and Syria, saying she argued unsuccessfully for earlier arming and training of the Syrian opposition. “I know that the failure to help build up a credible fighting force . . . left a big vacuum, which the jihadists have now filled,” she said.
She applied a bit of Clintonian triangulation to the foreign policies of Obama and George W. Bush, suggesting that there’s a just-right medium between the too-hot Bush policy and the too-cold Obama approach.
Editorial cartoon: Down the Iraq rabbit hole. (Ann Telnaes/The Washington Post)
“I think part of the challenge is that our government too often has a tendency to swing between these extremes,” she said. She later added: “You know, when you’re down on yourself, and when you are hunkering down and pulling back, you’re not going to make any better decisions than when you were aggressively, belligerently putting yourself forward.”
The no-confidence vote from Clinton (who, as luck would have it, also will be on Martha’s Vineyard this week) comes as Obama is smarting from criticism by hawks that the current mess in Iraq might not have occurred if he had kept U.S. troops there. “That entire analysis is bogus and is wrong,” the president said Saturday. “But it gets frequently peddled around here by folks who oftentimes are trying to defend previous policies that they themselves made.”
It’s understandable that Obama would want to get away from it all, but for a president struggling to build support for his foreign policy, vacationing during a crisis is no day at the beach.
White House press secretary Josh Earnest reminded reporters Friday that Obama was traveling to the Vineyard “with an array of communications” and advisers. But when it came time for the president to speak, there was a 20-minute delay because the TV feed didn’t work, and when he finally spoke, the audio and video quality was poor.
Obama gave an update on progress toward “the limited military objectives” against the Islamic State in Iraq, and he praised the naming of a new prime minister. But he didn’t mention that the current one, Nouri al-Maliki, is refusing to surrender power, setting up a showdown.
Criticism from Clinton. War with the Islamic State. Trouble with Maliki. It’s enough to make a man hook his drive into the sand trap.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/dana-milbank-obama-vacations-as-the-world-burns/2014/08/11/58755e5e-21a5-11e4-86ca-6f03cbd15c1a_story.html
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He is not allowed to vacation, the world is always burning.
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He is not allowed to vacation, the world is always burning.
are you joking?
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are you joking?
He just don't get it does he?
Obama ain't world police chief. Hope one day this penetrate your skull.
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He just don't get it does he?
Obama ain't world police chief. Hope one day this penetrate your skull.
He sort of is. I used to think we should not be "the world's policeman," but I changed my mind after spending hours at the Holocaust Museum in DC and then shortly after that watching Hotel Rwanda. If we know genocide is taking place and we can do something to stop it, we should.
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He sort of is. I used to think we should not be "the world's policeman," but I changed my mind after spending hours at the Holocaust Museum in DC and then shortly after that watching Hotel Rwanda. If we know genocide is taking place and we can do something to stop it, we should.
Funny how according to those who voted for this fool he is responsible for nothing, to blame for nothing, THEN WHY THE F DID YOU VOTE FOR HIM?
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I wonder if Obama is taking a 25 day vacation like Reagan used to do
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Funny how according to those who voted for this fool he is responsible for nothing, to blame for nothing, THEN WHY THE F DID YOU VOTE FOR HIM?
Tell me about it. And when you criticize the president some of these Obamabots act like you're talking about their momma.
The president sounds like a little kid these days. Never accepting responsibility for problems and his own mistakes, still blaming Bush, and outright lying. Embarrassing.
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He sort of is. I used to think we should not be "the world's policeman," but I changed my mind after spending hours at the Holocaust Museum in DC and then shortly after that watching Hotel Rwanda. If we know genocide is taking place and we can do something to stop it, we should.
Interesting. how should the USA decide where to intervene? based on the scale of mass murder? Or what resources the country has to offer?
beach Bum I never took you for a "The USA should get involved in the messes of other countries" kinda guy. I expected you to support a "scale back intervention as much as humanly possible" position.
I agree with repubs that the US should NOT get involved, except when our security is threatned or someone tries to jack our oil flow. Outside of that, let the US do it, and we can chip in but it's not our boots on the ground.
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Interesting. how should the USA decide where to intervene? based on the scale of mass murder? Or what resources the country has to offer?
beach Bum I never took you for a "The USA should get involved in the messes of other countries" kinda guy. I expected you to support a "scale back intervention as much as humanly possible" position.
I agree with repubs that the US should NOT get involved, except when our security is threatned or someone tries to jack our oil flow. Outside of that, let the US do it, and we can chip in but it's not our boots on the ground.
I specifically said genocide. If we know it is happening, and can do something about it, we should. That includes boots on the ground if necessary.
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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/08/14/Photographer-Deletes-Obama-Dancing-Photo
Worthless ghetto fag
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Worthless ghetto fag
Don't be so hard on yourself, champ.
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I wonder if Obama is taking a 25 day vacation like Reagan used to do
Jesus, where to start with you ::)
http://www.washingtontimes.com/guy-woods/
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granted, obama is a lazy, golfing egomaniac that hasn't done a good job.
But I'm pretty sure anyone who has actually sat thru things like 9/11, WWII, or, say, an asteroid hitting the planet would probably disagree with the author's belief that the world is currently burning.
Things aren't great, but "as the world burns" is a tad melodramatic. It's what you'd expect from a columnist, as 100% of them are liberals.
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granted, obama is a lazy, golfing egomaniac that hasn't done a good job.
But I'm pretty sure anyone who has actually sat thru things like 9/11, WWII, or, say, an asteroid hitting the planet would probably disagree with the author's belief that the world is currently burning.
Things aren't great, but "as the world burns" is a tad melodramatic. It's what you'd expect from a columnist, as 100% of them are liberals.
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Genocide doesn't count does it?
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Actually - I like it better when FAGGETbama is on vacation and golfing w his gay boyfriends - less damage he can do than when in the WH.
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Genocide doesn't count does it?
look, the USA doesn't get involved unless there is oil or strategic interests in play. You get that, right? We flew RIGHT OVER rwanda and all sorts of african murder sprees way larger than mid-east on the way to get our fingers in the oil pie.
SO you're with beach bum that the USA should become the world's police anytime there's human being being killed by the govt?
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it sucks when evil people take over governments and kill hundreds or thousands or millions of people.
I like when the US intervenes, but only when we are doing so as part of a nato or UN or otherwise int'l effort.
It puts WAY more pressure on a dictator when china, russia, england, AND the USA are telling them to knock it off.
it costs way less, it saves many US lives.
but the inconsistent nature by which we choose which nations to help? it's unreal.
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it sucks when evil people take over governments and kill hundreds or thousands or millions of people.
I like when the US intervenes, but only when we are doing so as part of a nato or UN or otherwise int'l effort.
I agree with repubs that the US should NOT get involved, except when our security is threatned or someone tries to jack our oil flow. Outside of that, let the US do it, and we can chip in but it's not our boots on the ground.
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Actually - I like it better when FAGGETbama is on vacation and golfing w his gay boyfriends - less damage he can do than when in the WH.
Of course you do. Because I am obsessed with all thing gays. Imagine the fuel it gives to my fantasies.
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Nice try. If the little fan boy wasn't so stupid, he would have seen that editing my post marks it as New Reply. ::)
Being a hypocrite must suck huh?
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Nice try. If the little fan boy wasn't so stupid, he would have seen that editing my post marks it as New Reply. ::)
Being a hypocrite must suck huh?
Something is seriously wrong with you. If Ron doesn't handle this, I will be editing and deleting your posts myself. And just to be clear, I am going to start editing and/or deleting all of your posts based on your repeated failure to follow the board rules, daily personal attacks of other posters, and repeatedly reposting deleted material. Sorry it has come to this. Have a good evening. :)
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What do you mean "start"? I already have. Like the little bitch I am.
I might choke on the hypocrisy ok? Seeing how I am the biggest hypocrite on the board and turn a blind eye to me being a little sociopath that does it the most. ;D
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Not willing to discuss your hypocrisy huh?
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Something is seriously wrong with you. If Ron doesn't handle this, I will be editing and deleting your posts myself. And just to be clear, I am going to start editing and/or deleting all of your posts based on your repeated failure to follow the board rules, daily personal attacks of other posters, and repeatedly reposting deleted material. Sorry it has come to this. Have a good evening. :)
What is wrong me? Why can't I control myself? I am soooo confused. :'(
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http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2557407
Another 17 day vacation
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And the problem with this is what again?
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2888830/Sorry-beach-reserved-Family-Secret-Service-agents-jet-skis-shoo-away-tourists-Obamas-hit-water-Hawaii.html?ito=social-facebook
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And the problem with this is what again?
Other presidents didn't take vacations. Obama is the first to ever do this, if I recall correctly.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2957072/A-expensive-getaway-Obama-family-s-separate-weekend-trips-trips-cost-2-5-million-did-Barack-spend-Valentine-s-golfing-California-Michelle-went-skiing-Colorado.html
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Someone is jealous.
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Someone is jealous.
Someone is paying taxes for these two grifters to jet set - its called the rest of us
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You've paid taxes for all the others that did it too. Little too late in the game to be complaining about it.
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While Obama Vacations, Taylor Swift Donates $1 Million To Flood-Ravaged Louisiana
Townhall.com ^ | August 17, 2016 | Christine Rousselle
Posted on 8/17/2016, 12:53:26 PM by Kaslin
Louisiana has been hit by devastating flooding, and thousands of people have lost everything. Eleven people have died.
President Obama is currently vacationing on Martha's Vineyard, and aside from signing a disaster declaration five days ago, has otherwise not commented on the situation. (He did, however, have time to go to a Hillary Clinton fundraiser.)
Compare this to pop star Taylor Swift. Swift, who began The 1989 World Tour in Louisiana last year, said that she appreciated her fans in Louisiana and was heartbroken by the devastation in the state. She then pledged to donate $1 million in relief money and encouraged others to "help out and send [their] love and prayers."
Swift released a statement to the Associated Press:
"We began The 1989 World Tour in Louisiana, and the wonderful fans there made us feel completely at home. The fact that so many people in Louisiana have been forced out of their own homes this week is heartbreaking," the 26-year-old said in a statement.
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"I encourage those who can to help out and send your love and prayers their way during this devastating time," Swift said.
What a weird world we live in where a pop star is doing more PR about a disaster than the president of the country.
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While Obama Vacations, Taylor Swift Donates $1 Million To Flood-Ravaged Louisiana
Townhall.com ^ | August 17, 2016 | Christine Rousselle
Posted on 8/17/2016, 12:53:26 PM by Kaslin
Louisiana has been hit by devastating flooding, and thousands of people have lost everything. Eleven people have died.
President Obama is currently vacationing on Martha's Vineyard, and aside from signing a disaster declaration five days ago, has otherwise not commented on the situation. (He did, however, have time to go to a Hillary Clinton fundraiser.)
Compare this to pop star Taylor Swift. Swift, who began The 1989 World Tour in Louisiana last year, said that she appreciated her fans in Louisiana and was heartbroken by the devastation in the state. She then pledged to donate $1 million in relief money and encouraged others to "help out and send [their] love and prayers."
Swift released a statement to the Associated Press:
"We began The 1989 World Tour in Louisiana, and the wonderful fans there made us feel completely at home. The fact that so many people in Louisiana have been forced out of their own homes this week is heartbreaking," the 26-year-old said in a statement.
[...]
"I encourage those who can to help out and send your love and prayers their way during this devastating time," Swift said.
What a weird world we live in where a pop star is doing more PR about a disaster than the president of the country.
Dude..even a complete idiot like yourself knows that the POTUS is always working....even during his vacation......the POTUS would never be able to vacation or take aday off if it was based on all the disasters that happen
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Dude..even a complete idiot like yourself knows that the POTUS is always working....even during his vacation......the POTUS would never be able to vacation or take aday off if it was based on all the disasters that happen
Choomer in Chief and Choomer Daughter lay around the sty not doing shit all day. Bunch of loafers.
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Choomer in Chief and Choomer Daughter lay around the sty not doing shit all day. Bunch of loafers.
sort of like you?...by the way, I suspect youre a so-called "choomer" yourself...true or false?
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Choomer in Chief and Choomer Daughter lay around the sty not doing shit all day. Bunch of loafers.
LOL @ choomer daughter.
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He's played over 300 rounds of golf. Imagine if this clown would actually have to put in a full weeks work for a living. He's admitted he was lazy some years back.
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He's played over 300 rounds of golf. Imagine if this clown would actually have to put in a full weeks work for a living. He's admitted he was lazy some years back.
This is called an opinion Joe, facts do not support your opinion, when that occurs the opinion is often biased.
I wonder how much vacation Obama has had relative to other presidents. Surely if it was less, your charge of laziness would be incorrect, no?
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This is called an opinion Joe, facts do not support your opinion, when that occurs the opinion is often biased.
I wonder how much vacation Obama has had relative to other presidents. Surely if it was less, your charge of laziness would be incorrect, no?
There was not a single opinion in joes post - that is all fact.
Choombama and the rest of the ChoomFam are a bunch of lazy do nothings.
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There was not a single opinion in joes post - that is all fact.
Choombama and the rest of the ChoomFam are a bunch of lazy do nothings.
idiot.....the Gov of La. stated that he personally told Obama NOT TO VISIT because it would just cause more issues at this time...and he added he is in constant touch with Susan rice and talks to her everyday about the situation...
YOU'RE HYSTERICAL
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idiot.....the Gov of La. stated that he personally told Obama NOT TO VISIT because it would just cause more issues at this time...and he added he is in constant touch with Susan rice and talks to her everyday about the situation...
YOU'RE HYSTERICAL
gov of la also said obama was sending plenty of money.
if i'm governor of a disaster, i do not want to pull hundreds of first responders so a political candidate can have nice photos... I want a lot of money, and i want to be left alone so my people can help.
Trump/pence had the kind of sideshow photo op you'd see in the 1980s. Trump personally handing our food and water as part of the assembly line. Even scooting a woman out of the way so he could find a strong man to hand the heavy case to... it could not get more '70 year old dude photo op' than that lol.
he could have written a check, he could have sent that water without pulling police from their helping duties to run security. luckily, in the 2016 news media cycle, this story will be old and lame by this evening.
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gov of la also said obama was sending plenty of money.
if i'm governor of a disaster, i do not want to pull hundreds of first responders so a political candidate can have nice photos... I want a lot of money, and i want to be left alone so my people can help.
Trump/pence had the kind of sideshow photo op you'd see in the 1980s. Trump personally handing our food and water as part of the assembly line. Even scooting a woman out of the way so he could find a strong man to hand the heavy case to... it could not get more '70 year old dude photo op' than that lol.
he could have written a check, he could have sent that water without pulling police from their helping duties to run security. luckily, in the 2016 news media cycle, this story will be old and lame by this evening.
I wanted to post that as well, but wasn't sure about it..thanks for confirming
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I wanted to post that as well, but wasn't sure about it..thanks for confirming
A lib giving choomer in chief cover. What a shock.
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President Obama to Visit Baton Rouge (Obama Folds)
ABC News ^ | August 19, 2016 | Alexander Mallin
Posted on August 19, 2016 at 3:49:53 PM EDT by abb
President Obama is expected to travel to Baton Rouge next Tuesday to get a first hand look at the devastating flood damage in the state.
This is a developing story. Please check back in for updates.
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President Obama to Visit Baton Rouge (Obama Folds)
ABC News ^ | August 19, 2016 | Alexander Mallin
Posted on August 19, 2016 at 3:49:53 PM EDT by abb
President Obama is expected to travel to Baton Rouge next Tuesday to get a first hand look at the devastating flood damage in the state.
This is a developing story. Please check back in for updates.
(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...
you'e pretty logical about things. so i dont think you're outraged that obama didn't show up immediately. the governor told him not to come. he wanted money, which he got, but he said he didn't want to pull those police working as first responders to manage a photo-op (as they had to do for trump)
I lived in a wrecked town following hurrican charlie in 2004. I know what it's like to live in a trailer park with 3 foot of water on the streets, drinking warm pepsi and eating doritos, playing cards on the porch with a shotgun watching out for homeless sniffing around. I know it was awesome on day 4 when the nat'l guard dudes brought us water and better - bags of ice. didn't have power for a week - i sure didn't care if Kerry or Bush was showing up for a photo op. If Kerry was handing out cases of water like Trump was doing, I couldn't have cared less.
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you'e pretty logical about things. so i dont think you're outraged that obama didn't show up immediately. the governor told him not to come. he wanted money, which he got, but he said he didn't want to pull those police working as first responders to manage a photo-op (as they had to do for trump)
I lived in a wrecked town following hurrican charlie in 2004. I know what it's like to live in a trailer park with 3 foot of water on the streets, drinking warm pepsi and eating doritos, playing cards on the porch with a shotgun watching out for homeless sniffing around. I know it was awesome on day 4 when the nat'l guard dudes brought us water and better - bags of ice. didn't have power for a week - i sure didn't care if Kerry or Bush was showing up for a photo op. If Kerry was handing out cases of water like Trump was doing, I couldn't have cared less.
The more Obama vacations and parties and golfs the better off we all are