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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: The True Adonis on August 14, 2014, 05:00:56 PM
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http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/arnold-schwarzenegger-blueprint-trainer-main.html
Brutal Volume. I am on Day 2.
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High volume always worked for me
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Volume is just an overall healthy way to train. Thank God I didn't call I to the "Heavy Duty" mindset of the eay to mid 90's. I am NOT saying if doesn't work - I just see a lot of my buddies with tremendous pain and injuries. I am in my 40's and just as full and hard as I was when I was competing in my 20's
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'As a 250-pound mass monster, the challenge for Arnold was eating nearly 250 grams of protein daily and making sure that his body could use it all'.
according to this he was advocating gram of protein per pound of body weight and about 4000 calories a day.
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I thought millions of people tried Arnold's routine but it didn't do shit for them because of lack or drugs? ???
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study electricity you fuckin moron!
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I thought millions of people tried Arnold's routine but it didn't do shit for them because of lack or drugs? ???
It was actually lack of intensity
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Say what you want about TA but he goes hardcore in the gym you got to respect that.
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That was my split in my teens, could never do that anymore after training 34 yrs straight.
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study electricity you fuckin moron!
lol
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Say what you want about TA but he goes hardcore in the gym you got to respect that.
Only an idiot thinks a new routine is going to start packing on the bicept inches, TA is not one, you be the judge of this trolling=wasted time
however TA will study electricity when hes old and dying then he will see what hes missing out on :'(
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i was lucky that i got to train with MR WORLD 1970 BILL GRANT back in 94,bill trained with arnold alot n showed me the exact workouts they did back in golds in the 70,s. it was basiclly a primary/antoginist type of routine, bill and i would do a set of bench presses super setted with front chins,then incline barbell supersetted with bent rows,then flyes supersetted with low pulley rows ect, yous get the idea. arm day was always supersets of bis n tris also, legs n calves we did alone, it was a hard routine, bill showed me some cool stuff,the thing i loved the most was the tons of stories he used to tell me about arnold,waller,robby,corney ect n the crazy shit that went on in golds back then,i loved it, bill is one of the coolest guys youll ever want to meet
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i was lucky that i got to train with MR WORLD 1970 BILL GRANT back in 94,bill trained with arnold alot n showed me the exact workouts they did back in golds in the 70,s. it was basiclly a primary/antoginist type of routine, bill and i would do a set of bench presses super setted with front chins,then incline barbell supersetted with bent rows,then flyes supersetted with low pulley rows ect, yous get the idea. arm day was always supersets of bis n tris also, legs n calves we did alone, it was a hard routine, bill showed me some cool stuff,the thing i loved the most was the tons of stories he used to tell me about arnold,waller,robby,corney ect n the crazy shit that went on in golds back then,i loved it, bill is one of the coolest guys youll ever want to meet
can you share these stories?
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i was lucky that i got to train with MR WORLD 1970 BILL GRANT back in 94,bill trained with arnold alot n showed me the exact workouts they did back in golds in the 70,s. it was basiclly a primary/antoginist type of routine, bill and i would do a set of bench presses super setted with front chins,then incline barbell supersetted with bent rows,then flyes supersetted with low pulley rows ect, yous get the idea. arm day was always supersets of bis n tris also, legs n calves we did alone, it was a hard routine, bill showed me some cool stuff,the thing i loved the most was the tons of stories he used to tell me about arnold,waller,robby,corney ect n the crazy shit that went on in golds back then,i loved it, bill is one of the coolest guys youll ever want to meet
i did read Bill Grant stopped training 6 Days a week like Arnold and the Rest and he dropped down to training 4 days a week because he felt 6 days was too much for him.
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can you share these stories?
one funny one i remembered really well is about this skinny junkie type dude walked into golds one morning,arnold n bill n the rest of the crew were there training n this junkie says(hey i want to b the best bodybuilder in the world n i have what it takes) so arnold winks at waller n say in his german voice(hey kenny, can u get me the posing oil so we can see what he looks like oiled up posing) waller already knew the deal n smiled, kenny comes back with 10W-40 car motor oil but poured it in a cup so the dude wouldnt catch on. arnold has the guy strip to his underwear n starts loading this guy up with motor oil to the point where it was dripping off him,at this point everyones trying to play it off but they where in tears laughing so hard. anyway the guy posed then arnold said(thats great now go get dressed but dont wipe the oil off cause i might need u to pose again) the guys all happy n leaves the gym never to b seen again
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;D
Arnie was a getbigger, not afraid to own delusionites
Did he ever go into details about drugs and diets?
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bill said what seperated arnold from everyone else wasnt the drugs,wasnt some secret workout or supplements, it was arnolds ability to train so brutally hard n then keep going on and on and on, he said hed train chest n back with arnold n be spent n arnold would see waller or denny gable come in and do the same chest routine again with those guys who where fresh n burn them out :o, he said arnold was very competetive with his workout partners, for instance if u did one more rep than arnold hed get that look in his eye like (u will never get the better of me again)type of look, n bill said arnold had such a strong determination n hunger it was almost scary,he said the parties they had back then where legendery.
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Arnold's training routines are still the best!
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Arnie was a getbigger, not afraid to own delusionites
Did he ever go into details about drugs and diets?
he just said that arnie was a primo freak,loved it. he said that they didnt really use much in the offseason,he said they started using it hard when the 90 day mark hit,when they had 3 months to go they used it. he said they used it to maintain thier muscle when dieting down, i believe bill cause hes a honest,straight up guy. he said they didnt use no where near what these guys use today,not even close. alittle primo,some deca,afew dbol and they where good to go,cyp or suspension was used also,im not 100% sure n dont remember exactly the dosages tho,its been 20 yrs
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Arnie and TA are real estate moguls in the minds of many
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Arnold's training routines are still the best!
i agree,arnolds numero uno
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Arnold's training routines are still the best!
Perfect for AAS users :) others will burnout fast
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Perfect for AAS users :) others will burnout fast
i agree 100%, thats all it is imo is a recuperation game, whoever can recupe the fastest can train more often n training more often means better gains(providing they r recuping).a guys whos blasting his chest 2 days a week is gonna grow faster than a guy blasting his 1 day a week,providing everythings equal as far as genetics,diet and training intensity, the one guys only hitting his chest 4 days a month while the others getting 8+ days a month,huge difference
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i was lucky that i got to train with MR WORLD 1970 BILL GRANT back in 94,bill trained with arnold alot n showed me the exact workouts they did back in golds in the 70,s. it was basiclly a primary/antoginist type of routine, bill and i would do a set of bench presses super setted with front chins,then incline barbell supersetted with bent rows,then flyes supersetted with low pulley rows ect, yous get the idea. arm day was always supersets of bis n tris also, legs n calves we did alone, it was a hard routine, bill showed me some cool stuff,the thing i loved the most was the tons of stories he used to tell me about arnold,waller,robby,corney ect n the crazy shit that went on in golds back then,i loved it, bill is one of the coolest guys youll ever want to meet
I've trained that way for several years and I absolutely dig it. There's just one modification. I train in what MuscleMag labeled "Alternates" style.
Simply put, instead of doing antagonistic supersets (i.e. no rest between excercises), I rest about a minute or two between movements.
For example, I'll do incline bench presses, rest 1-2 minutes, then do pull-ups. Next, I'll go for flat bench presses/digs, rest another minutes, then do rows.
Alternates are AWESOME for both getting pumped and moving heavy weight. Of course, if you're crunched for time, antagonistic supersets rule.
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i agree 100%, thats all it is imo is a recuperation game, whoever can recupe the fastest can train more often n training more often means better gains(providing they r recuping).a guys whos blasting his chest 2 days a week is gonna grow faster than a guy blasting his 1 day a week,providing everythings equal as far as genetics,diet and training intensity, the one guys only hitting his chest 4 days a month while the others getting 8+ days a month,huge difference
True and good post but it depends on many factors. Overlap is a big one. Doing an Arnold type workout only gave me bursitis in my shoulder. if using Basic movements you are hitting it all each day anyway. on say a one muscle a day routine. even squating on leg day.
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True and good post but it depends on many factors. Overlap is a big one. Doing an Arnold type workout only gave me bursitis in my shoulder. if using Basic movements you are hitting it all each day anyway. on say a one muscle a day routine. even squating on leg day.
true bro, im not gonna lie when i was doing that routine i always felt overtrained slightly, now i more or less do a routine like this where i rest good n recup
monday-chest-tris-calves-abs
tues -back-bis
wed -legs-calves-abs
thurs -delts-traps
friday -off
saturday -off
sunday - repeat mondays workout
ill tell ya ive been growing better than ever with this routine-i do 4 sets per exercise with 4 exercises on each muscle,except on back and legs i do 5 to 6 exercises cause i feel them muscles need slighly more volume,intensity stays high on everything,that never changes
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true bro, im not gonna lie when i was doing that routine i always felt overtrained slightly, now i more or less do a routine like this where i rest good n recup
monday-chest-tris-calves-abs
tues -back-bis
wed -legs-calves-abs
thurs -delts-traps
friday -off
saturday -off
sunday - repeat mondays workout
ill tell ya ive been growing better than ever with this routine-i do 4 sets per exercise with 4 exercises on each muscle,except on back and legs i do 5 to 6 exercises cause i feel them muscles need slighly more volume,intensity stays high on everything,that never changes
Yes more realistic for most of us. I can only talk for myself.. hitting each muscle twice a week is too much. i get problems in my shoulders. however some can do it.
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same here donny,my right delt was getting banged up in rotater area,elbows hurt bad,lower back.i know i got alot of miles on this old body here,i started messin with weights when i was 10yrs old,didnt know what the hell i was doing but i still tried to lift :D i got 39 yrs under my belt of liftin :o, when i was in my 20,s i used to get away with it for a few months but not now, to draining on the nervous system also,it rocks your adrenals to the point of no return,u feel like a zombie after awhile on them crazy routines training to much
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same here donny,my right delt was getting banged up in rotater area,elbows hurt bad,lower back.i know i got alot of miles on this old body here,i started messin with weights when i was 10yrs old,didnt know what the hell i was doing but i still tried to lift :D i got 39 yrs under my belt of liftin :o, when i was in my 20,s i used to get away with it for a few months but not now, to draining on the nervous system also,it rocks your adrenals to the point of no return,u feel like a zombie after awhile on them crazy routines training to much
;D i hear you.. you are a good guy. looking forward to hearing your stories.
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Following the arnold program,
I'm hoping to get a maid, then impregnate that maid.
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Make sure its an ugly one, ones like in american wedding aren't allowed
Following the arnold program,
I'm hoping to get a maid, then impregnate that maid.
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Why do they have to write the same routine out 8 times?
Its the same workout schedule each week
Epic page filling of peace.
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Following the arnold program,
I'm hoping to get a maid, then impregnate that maid.
It's never too early to go Jeep Wrangler shopping. 16 years will fly by faster than you think
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'As a 250-pound mass monster, the challenge for Arnold was eating nearly 250 grams of protein daily and making sure that his body could use it all'.
according to this he was advocating gram of protein per pound of body weight and about 4000 calories a day.
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bill said what seperated arnold from everyone else wasnt the drugs,wasnt some secret workout or supplements, it was arnolds ability to train so brutally hard n then keep going on and on and on, he said hed train chest n back with arnold n be spent n arnold would see waller or denny gable come in and do the same chest routine again with those guys who where fresh n burn them out :o, he said arnold was very competetive with his workout partners, for instance if u did one more rep than arnold hed get that look in his eye like (u will never get the better of me again)type of look, n bill said arnold had such a strong determination n hunger it was almost scary,he said the parties they had back then where legendery.
I could never believe this whole "Arnold's brutally hard training" thing. There are accounts of Arnold being humbled while training with Jones in Florida, he couldn't take the workouts. There is also a quote from Arnold himself saying if he ever had to train like Viator, he'd quit bbing and take up skiing or something like that.
What separated Arnold from the rest were his genes and drugs though, Platz probably trained 10x harder than him and what did that do for Tom? Same with Viator.
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I could never believe this whole "Arnold's brutally hard training" thing. There are accounts of Arnold being humbled while training with Jones in Florida, he couldn't take the workouts. There is also a quote from Arnold himself saying if he ever had to train like Viator, he'd quit bbing and take up skiing or something like that.
What separated Arnold from the rest were his genes and drugs though, Platz probably trained 10x harder than him and what did that do for Tom? Same with Viator.
Gironda called him a fat fuck. i think Gironda humbled him.
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I could never believe this whole "Arnold's brutally hard training" thing. There are accounts of Arnold being humbled while training with Jones in Florida, he couldn't take the workouts. There is also a quote from Arnold himself saying if he ever had to train like Viator, he'd quit bbing and take up skiing or something like that.
What separated Arnold from the rest were his genes and drugs though, Platz probably trained 10x harder than him and what did that do for Tom? Same with Viator.
It gave Platz the FREAKIEST LEGS ever seen on a human being. And of course, there are those who feel he got ROBBED in 1981 at the Olympia, placing 3rd behind Dickerson and Columbu.
He later ended up making much coin at the WBF's Director of Talent Deveolpment and commentator at both championships.
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I could never believe this whole "Arnold's brutally hard training" thing. There are accounts of Arnold being humbled while training with Jones in Florida, he couldn't take the workouts. There is also a quote from Arnold himself saying if he ever had to train like Viator, he'd quit bbing and take up skiing or something like that.
What separated Arnold from the rest were his genes and drugs though, Platz probably trained 10x harder than him and what did that do for Tom? Same with Viator.
You nailed it here. Accounts of Arnold's "brutal" training is more mythology than fact. Arnold trained brutally L-O-N-G, but not as hard as most people think. Platz trained waaaay harder than Arnold ever did.
No matter how young you are, forget about training twice a day, 20 sets per body part if you're a natty... you will not make it past 2 weeks without getting totally burned out. I tried it many times in my 20's. I burned out after 2-3 weeks even though my diet and sleep were spot on.
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You nailed it here. Accounts of Arnold's "brutal" training is more mythology than fact. Arnold trained brutally L-O-N-G, but not as hard as most people think. Platz trained waaaay harder than Arnold ever did.
No matter how young you are, forget about training twice a day, 20 sets per body part if you're a natty... you will not make it past 2 weeks without getting totally burned out. I tried it many times in my 20's. I burned out after 2-3 weeks even though my diet and sleep were spot on.
Why would you copy Arnold's volume when you're nowhere as big as he is?
Volume-wise, you should have done a third of that (sets-wise), once a day. Depending on how long you'd been training, you could have stuck with the traditional 3-days-a-week, whole-body routine.
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Why would you copy Arnold's volume when you're nowhere as big as he is?
Volume-wise, you should have done a third of that (sets-wise), once a day. Depending on how long you'd been training, you could have stuck with the traditional 3-days-a-week, whole-body routine.
Because Musclemag and Arnold told me to. ;D
30 years training under my belt... and I've done and seen it all.
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You nailed it here. Accounts of Arnold's "brutal" training is more mythology than fact. Arnold trained brutally L-O-N-G, but not as hard as most people think. Platz trained waaaay harder than Arnold ever did.
No matter how young you are, forget about training twice a day, 20 sets per body part if you're a natty... you will not make it past 2 weeks without getting totally burned out. I tried it many times in my 20's. I burned out after 2-3 weeks even though my diet and sleep were spot on.
It won`t really matter to be honest with you.
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I prefer Arnold's High volume training is over 40 years.
today's pic prove what i claim.http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=117526.msg7662838;boardseen#new (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=117526.msg7662838;boardseen#new)
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training every muscle group TWICE a week.(abs 4-6 times a week)
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training every muscle group TWICE a week.(abs 4-6 times a week)
Absolutely impressive as always!
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Are you taking your dbols?
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Reverse pyramids were always my mainstay for putting on mass.
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Muscle center always talk about training but never about his roid stack I wonder why that is.
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Muscle center always talk about training but never about his roid stack I wonder why that is.
Punishable by death in his country. :-X
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just a quick note, i used to talk to casey viator through email quite a bit , i asked him about arnolds pre contest training here is his exact quote.
arnolds pre contest training was brutal, super intense and would kill most people , including pros
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As if some magic routine actually existed.
Of course not. Its just fun to take on the challenge.
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Of course not. Its just fun to take on the challenge.
electricity man your obsessed with negroid activities (liftin without constructing anything) as a friend of yours im pretty fuckin dissapointed my redneck friends would question your manliness, sure they have there flaws too but damn i feel like your wasting your fucking life
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electricity man your obsessed with negroid activities (liftin without constructing anything) as a friend of yours im pretty fuckin dissapointed my redneck friends would question your manliness, sure they have there flaws too but damn i feel like your wasting your fucking life
Johnny, instead of endless talks about electricity, maybe you can show us the fruits of your labour in a video?
Thank you.
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just a quick note, i used to talk to casey viator through email quite a bit , i asked him about arnolds pre contest training here is his exact quote.
arnolds pre contest training was brutal, super intense and would kill most people , including pros
same thing bill told me, he said arnold might not of handled the heaviest weights as a guy like casey,(bill even said casey was so strong it was insane),but arnold trained really hard. interesting thing bill told me back then,i asked him whos the most massive guy(pure muscle) that hes ever seen n he said VIC RICHARDS, bill said he saw richards in 1993 or so n said vic was sergio reincarnated all over again but more massive,except for the back bill said