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Title: Gun control laws don't work in Chicago
Post by: dario73 on August 18, 2014, 09:03:42 AM
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2014/08/18/seven-killed-28-wounded-in-city-shootings-over-weekend/

Seven Killed, 29 Wounded In City Shootings Over Weekend

CHICAGO — Seven people have been killed and at least 29 others wounded in shootings across the city since Friday evening, police said.
Title: Re: Gun control laws don't work in Chicago
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on August 18, 2014, 09:10:24 AM
Their response will be to ignore the gang bangers causing the crime and come down even harder on the law abiding citizens.
Title: Re: Gun control laws don't work in Chicago
Post by: Straw Man on August 18, 2014, 09:23:15 AM
apparently murder laws don't work either

I guess we should just not do anything

what other choice do we have ?
Title: Re: Gun control laws don't work in Chicago
Post by: Roger Bacon on August 18, 2014, 09:27:03 AM
I think we should ignore all the black on black homicides in Chicago and focus on the criminal who was legally shot by a police officer in Ferguson.
Title: Re: Gun control laws don't work in Chicago
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 18, 2014, 09:31:08 AM
apparently murder laws don't work either

I guess we should just not do anything

what other choice do we have ?

How about focus on the real problem vs an imaginary problem?  The liberal communist progressives fail everywhere they go
Title: Re: Gun control laws don't work in Chicago
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on August 18, 2014, 09:56:52 AM
I think we should ignore all the black on black homicides in Chicago and focus on the criminal who was legally shot by a police officer in Ferguson.

Lol
Title: Re: Gun control laws don't work in Chicago
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on August 18, 2014, 09:58:41 AM
apparently murder laws don't work either

I guess we should just not do anything

what other choice do we have ?

Just ban libs and everything would improve ;D
Title: Re: Gun control laws don't work in Chicago
Post by: Straw Man on August 18, 2014, 10:29:18 AM
Just ban libs and everything would improve ;D

I guess you think "libs" are doing all the shootings in Chicago
Title: Re: Gun control laws don't work in Chicago
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 18, 2014, 10:32:52 AM
I guess you think "libs" are doing all the shootings in Chicago

Obama voters aka lib idiots are the criminals not tea party white guys
Title: Re: Gun control laws don't work in Chicago
Post by: Straw Man on August 18, 2014, 10:52:15 AM
Obama voters aka lib idiots are the criminals not tea party white guys

spoken like a true mental patient
Title: Re: Gun control laws don't work in Chicago
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on August 18, 2014, 10:52:35 AM
I guess you think "libs" are doing all the shootings in Chicago

They are the ones 100% responsible for creating these chicago/detroit type circumstances.

 And im sure the people in these areas are all voting conservative ::)

Lmao id bet my life if you looked at the voting records for this area it prob went 98% for obama.
Title: Re: Gun control laws don't work in Chicago
Post by: tonymctones on August 18, 2014, 10:54:15 AM
apparently murder laws don't work either

I guess we should just not do anything

what other choice do we have ?
Problem is banning murder doesn't effect law abiding citizens...banning guns does
Title: Re: Gun control laws don't work in Chicago
Post by: Straw Man on August 18, 2014, 11:38:02 AM
They are the ones 100% responsible for creating these chicago/detroit type circumstances.

 And im sure the people in these areas are all voting conservative ::)

Lmao id bet my life if you looked at the voting records for this area it prob went 98% for obama.

feel free to elaborate
Title: Re: Gun control laws don't work in Chicago
Post by: Straw Man on August 18, 2014, 11:39:49 AM
Problem is banning murder doesn't effect law abiding citizens...banning guns does

just saying murder laws don't seem to deter murderers so what's the point of even doing anything to try to stop it

isn't that the argument against any form of gun control legislation

btw - I've never advocated "banning guns"
Title: Re: Gun control laws don't work in Chicago
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 18, 2014, 11:41:12 AM
just saying murder laws don't seem to deter murderers so what's the point of even doing anything to try to stop it

isn't that the argument against any form of gun control legislation

btw - I've never advocated "banning guns"

Hey idiot - murder laws are not meant to deter murder - they are to punish the act itself. 
Title: Re: Gun control laws don't work in Chicago
Post by: 240 is Back on August 18, 2014, 11:44:06 AM
let's be clear here.... BOTH menbc and fox are exploiting this shooting to rile up their base and piss off viewers at the "enemy".

At this point, most FOX viewers rather let Putin hide a nuke in their garage and bang their wife, than have a liberal over for dinner lol.

Same for libs, in the reverse. 
Title: Re: Gun control laws don't work in Chicago
Post by: Archer77 on August 18, 2014, 11:49:00 AM
just saying murder laws don't seem to deter murderers so what's the point of even doing anything to try to stop it

isn't that the argument against any form of gun control legislation

btw - I've never advocated "banning guns"

You don't seem to understand the difference between gun laws and the crime of murder.   One is meant to prevent the act  while the other is punishing an act that has already happened.   Very different.
Title: Re: Gun control laws don't work in Chicago
Post by: Straw Man on August 18, 2014, 11:51:53 AM
Hey idiot - murder laws are not meant to deter murder - they are to punish the act itself. 

and gun control legislation is meant to deter criminals and mentally ill people from getting their hands on guns

btw - how many threads have we had about banning various things like baseball bats, shovels, cars, lakes, etc..

Isn't that the standard method here to conflate legislation to control something to banning it altogether
Title: Re: Gun control laws don't work in Chicago
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 18, 2014, 11:53:24 AM
and gun control legislation is meant to deter criminals and mentally ill people from getting their hands on guns

btw - how many threads have we had about banning various things like baseball bats, shovels, cars, lakes, etc..

Isn't that the standard method here to conflate legislation to control something to banning it altogether

Oh - and that's working oh so well aint it.   lmfao 
Title: Re: Gun control laws don't work in Chicago
Post by: Straw Man on August 18, 2014, 11:54:46 AM
You don't seem to understand the difference between gun laws and the crime of murder.   One is meant to prevent the act  while the other is punishing an act that has already happened.   Very different.

I understand it

just pointing out the typical meme on this board

what is the purpose of this thread in the first place?
Title: Re: Gun control laws don't work in Chicago
Post by: Archer77 on August 18, 2014, 11:56:22 AM
I understand it

just pointing out the typical meme on this board

what is the purpose of this thread in the first place?

I don't understand the comparison you've made.   The purpose is to demonstrate that gun bans don't work as intended.
Title: Re: Gun control laws don't work in Chicago
Post by: dario73 on August 18, 2014, 12:07:49 PM
HEHEHEHEHEHE!!!

Is the libtard on this thread actually comparing gun control laws with laws regarding homicides?

Weak attempt at deflecting from the fact that gun control laws don't work.
Title: Re: Gun control laws don't work in Chicago
Post by: Straw Man on August 18, 2014, 12:11:29 PM
I don't understand the comparison you've made.   The purpose is to demonstrate that gun bans don't work as intended.

no shit they don't work

I guess if you ban guns in a city that there is simply no way to get a gun into that city

I'm shocked.  I assumed they built a 40 foot wall around the city and everyone who comes and goes is stripped searched

btw - we've had this same thread (about gun violence in Chicago) about 50 times on this board already
Title: Re: Gun control laws don't work in Chicago
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on August 18, 2014, 12:25:24 PM
no shit they don't work

I guess if you ban guns in a city that there is simply no way to get a gun into that city

I'm shocked.  I assumed they built a 40 foot wall around the city and everyone who comes and goes is stripped searched

btw - we've had this same thread (about gun violence in Chicago) about 50 times on this board already

Its not 'gun violence' , its 'gang violence'.

Take the guns out of the picture, and the gangs would still murder people.
Take the gangs out of the picture, and all these murders wouldnt happen. The guns would just sit there and do nothing as they are inanimate objects
Title: Re: Gun control laws don't work in Chicago
Post by: Straw Man on August 18, 2014, 12:35:43 PM
Its not 'gun violence' , its 'gang violence'.

Take the guns out of the picture, and the gangs would still murder people.
Take the gangs out of the picture, and all these murders wouldnt happen. The guns would just sit there and do nothing as they are inanimate objects

sounds like you've got it all figured out

why are you wasting your time here?

why aren't you offering your keen insights to the people in Chicago?
Title: Re: Gun control laws don't work in Chicago
Post by: Archer77 on August 18, 2014, 12:39:50 PM
sounds like you've got it all figured out

why are you wasting your time here when you

why aren't you offering your keen insights to the people in Chicago?

They wouldn't listen.  Without an external reason for the violence, the people of Chicago would be required to be responsible for their community.
Title: Re: Gun control laws don't work in Chicago
Post by: Straw Man on August 18, 2014, 12:48:15 PM
They wouldn't listen.  Without an external reason for the violence, the people of Chicago would be required to be responsible for their community.

Well maybe John can tell us how he would "take gangs out of the picture" and maybe the plan will make it's way back to Chicago
Title: Re: Gun control laws don't work in Chicago
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on August 18, 2014, 01:44:36 PM
They wouldn't listen.  Without an external reason for the violence, the people of Chicago would be required to be responsible for their community.

Exactly. Heres your answer, straw.
Title: Re: Gun control laws don't work in Chicago
Post by: Straw Man on August 18, 2014, 02:22:57 PM
Exactly. Heres your answer, straw.

that's not an answer

You said all we have to do it "take the gangs out of the picture, and all these murders wouldnt happen"

great so tell us how you would do that

Title: Re: Gun control laws don't work in Chicago
Post by: tonymctones on August 18, 2014, 04:06:03 PM
just saying murder laws don't seem to deter murderers so what's the point of even doing anything to try to stop it

isn't that the argument against any form of gun control legislation

btw - I've never advocated "banning guns"
I understand what youre saying, what Im saying is it isnt a fair comparison.

and not the argument against gun control does not sit solely with the fact that gun laws dont prevent gun crimes in the vast majority of cases.

There are plenty of other reasons to be against gun control. INCLUDING the fact that they harm law abiding citizens.

I know you havent explicitly said so but I dont think you would have a problem with it at all if that was the case.
Title: Re: Gun control laws don't work in Chicago
Post by: Straw Man on August 18, 2014, 04:11:13 PM
I understand what youre saying, what Im saying is it isnt a fair comparison.

and not the argument against gun control does not sit solely with the fact that gun laws dont prevent gun crimes in the vast majority of cases.

There are plenty of other reasons to be against gun control. INCLUDING the fact that they harm law abiding citizens.

I know you havent explicitly said so but I dont think you would have a problem with it at all if that was the case.

LOL - I know you haven't said it explicitly but I don't think you would have a problem with pedophelia

Sheesh the discourse on this board is joke
Title: Re: Gun control laws don't work in Chicago
Post by: tonymctones on August 18, 2014, 04:12:03 PM
LOL - I know you haven't said it explicitly but I don't think you would have a problem with pedophelia

Sheesh the discourse on this board is joke
Actually Im fairly sure I have made many a discouraging statement towards pedos....

so youre saying you would stand up and fight against banning guns?
Title: Re: Gun control laws don't work in Chicago
Post by: Straw Man on August 18, 2014, 04:15:47 PM
Actually Im fairly sure I have made many a discouraging statement towards pedos....

so youre saying you would stand up and fight against banning guns?

feel free to search my quotes on gun control measures on this board or not

I don't really care

Apparently you don't really pay attention to what I say and would just rather imagine what I believe
Title: Re: Gun control laws don't work in Chicago
Post by: tonymctones on August 18, 2014, 04:19:32 PM
feel free to search my quotes on gun control measures on this board or not

I don't really care

Apparently you don't really pay attention to what I say and would just rather imagine what I believe
just a question, I have never heard you condemn chicagos ban or new yorks "assault rifle" ban is all.

am I to understand you are against those?
Title: Re: Gun control laws don't work in Chicago
Post by: Straw Man on August 18, 2014, 04:27:39 PM
just a question, I have never heard you condemn chicagos ban or new yorks "assault rifle" ban is all.

am I to understand you are against those?

I have never heard you condemn NAMBLA

Tony - you can go research my quotes on guns and you'll probably find something to the effect of me being for background checks for all sales, registration, required training, against high capacity clips, etc..

that's off the top of my head.  I've never advocated banning all guns or anything close

Title: Re: Gun control laws don't work in Chicago
Post by: tonymctones on August 18, 2014, 04:29:51 PM
I have never heard you condemn NAMBLA

Tony - you can go research my quotes on guns and you'll probably find something to the effect of me being for background checks for all sales, registration, required training, against high capacity clips, etc..

that's off the top of my head.  I've never advocated banning all guns or anything close
good to know youre against "assault rifle" bans like the one in NY and other types like the one in Chicago.
Title: Re: Gun control laws don't work in Chicago
Post by: Straw Man on August 18, 2014, 04:54:29 PM
good to know youre against "assault rifle" bans like the one in NY and other types like the one in Chicago.


Title: Re: Gun control laws don't work in Chicago
Post by: tonymctones on August 18, 2014, 05:01:59 PM

hahah thats pretty good, especially for you