Gun control laws don't work in Chicago

[Archer77]

sounds like you've got it all figured out

why are you wasting your time here when you

why aren't you offering your keen insights to the people in Chicago?

They wouldn't listen.  Without an external reason for the violence, the people of Chicago would be required to be responsible for their community.

[Straw Man]

They wouldn't listen.  Without an external reason for the violence, the people of Chicago would be required to be responsible for their community.

Well maybe John can tell us how he would "take gangs out of the picture" and maybe the plan will make it's way back to Chicago

[JOHN MATRIX]

They wouldn't listen.  Without an external reason for the violence, the people of Chicago would be required to be responsible for their community.

Exactly. Heres your answer, straw.

[Straw Man]

Exactly. Heres your answer, straw.

that's not an answer

You said all we have to do it "take the gangs out of the picture, and all these murders wouldnt happen"

great so tell us how you would do that

[tonymctones]

just saying murder laws don't seem to deter murderers so what's the point of even doing anything to try to stop it

isn't that the argument against any form of gun control legislation

btw - I've never advocated "banning guns"

I understand what youre saying, what Im saying is it isnt a fair comparison.

and not the argument against gun control does not sit solely with the fact that gun laws dont prevent gun crimes in the vast majority of cases.

There are plenty of other reasons to be against gun control. INCLUDING the fact that they harm law abiding citizens.

I know you havent explicitly said so but I dont think you would have a problem with it at all if that was the case.

[Straw Man]

I understand what youre saying, what Im saying is it isnt a fair comparison.

and not the argument against gun control does not sit solely with the fact that gun laws dont prevent gun crimes in the vast majority of cases.

There are plenty of other reasons to be against gun control. INCLUDING the fact that they harm law abiding citizens.

I know you havent explicitly said so but I dont think you would have a problem with it at all if that was the case.

LOL - I know you haven't said it explicitly but I don't think you would have a problem with pedophelia

Sheesh the discourse on this board is joke

[tonymctones]

LOL - I know you haven't said it explicitly but I don't think you would have a problem with pedophelia

Sheesh the discourse on this board is joke

Actually Im fairly sure I have made many a discouraging statement towards pedos....

so youre saying you would stand up and fight against banning guns?

[Straw Man]

Actually Im fairly sure I have made many a discouraging statement towards pedos....

so youre saying you would stand up and fight against banning guns?

feel free to search my quotes on gun control measures on this board or not

I don't really care

Apparently you don't really pay attention to what I say and would just rather imagine what I believe

[tonymctones]

feel free to search my quotes on gun control measures on this board or not

I don't really care

Apparently you don't really pay attention to what I say and would just rather imagine what I believe

just a question, I have never heard you condemn chicagos ban or new yorks "assault rifle" ban is all.

am I to understand you are against those?

[Straw Man]

just a question, I have never heard you condemn chicagos ban or new yorks "assault rifle" ban is all.

am I to understand you are against those?

I have never heard you condemn NAMBLA

Tony - you can go research my quotes on guns and you'll probably find something to the effect of me being for background checks for all sales, registration, required training, against high capacity clips, etc..

that's off the top of my head.  I've never advocated banning all guns or anything close

[tonymctones]

I have never heard you condemn NAMBLA

Tony - you can go research my quotes on guns and you'll probably find something to the effect of me being for background checks for all sales, registration, required training, against high capacity clips, etc..

that's off the top of my head.  I've never advocated banning all guns or anything close

good to know youre against "assault rifle" bans like the one in NY and other types like the one in Chicago.

[Straw Man]

good to know youre against "assault rifle" bans like the one in NY and other types like the one in Chicago.

[tonymctones]

hahah thats pretty good, especially for you