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(CNN) - A Chinese fighter jet made several "dangerous" and "unprofessional" passes at a U.S. Navy plane this week -- coming as close as 20 feet at one point -- in what the White House called a "deeply concerning provocation."
http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/22/world/asia/us-china-air-encounter/index.html?c=homepage-t
The U.S. Pilot let that Chinese "hot shot" get away with it. But I know somebody that wouldn't have....
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(CNN) - A Chinese fighter jet made several "dangerous" and "unprofessional" passes at a U.S. Navy plane this week -- coming as close as 20 feet at one point -- in what the White House called a "deeply concerning provocation."
http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/22/world/asia/us-china-air-encounter/index.html?c=homepage-t
The U.S. Pilot let that Chinese "hot shot" get away with it. But I know somebody that wouldn't have....
I thought you were going to say John McCain. He would have just crashed.
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When we fly around in their 'sphere of influence' this kind of thing isnt surprising
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Why is this chink not feeding fish?
Fuck you obama.
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(CNN) - A Chinese fighter jet made several "dangerous" and "unprofessional" passes at a U.S. Navy plane this week -- coming as close as 20 feet at one point -- in what the White House called a "deeply concerning provocation."
http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/22/world/asia/us-china-air-encounter/index.html?c=homepage-t
The U.S. Pilot let that Chinese "hot shot" get away with it. But I know somebody that wouldn't have....
The US Pilot was in a fucking Posidien P-8.....what the fuck was he going to do??? ::)
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Just wait until we get the Ebola pandemic started. With the break down in international trade that follows, you;ll really seem some shit.
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smh...so 1980's.
with the actual warfare technology of today, had this been an actual warfare situation they'd been shot down by a US destroyer as soon as they left the runway via sea sparrow SAM on a spruance class destroyer ..and that's old technology.
smh....fuggin rookies man.
Stick to making Nike in a factory. smh
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smh...so 1980's.
with the actual warfare technology of today, had this been an actual warfare situation they'd been shot down by a US destroyer as soon as they left the runway via sea sparrow SAM on a spruance class destroyer ..and that's old technology.
smh....fuggin rookies man.
Stick to making Nike in a factory. smh
How can you shoot a plane out of the air right off the runway? I don't mean how can you, you just do it, but how would you justify it? ???
This is just more nonsense.
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How can you shoot a plane out of the air right off the runway? I don't mean how can you, you just do it, but how would you justify it? ???
This is just more nonsense.
The point is by the time you get to war mode, USA wouldnt be justifying shit. Itd be like a kennedy raping a 18 year old sweatshop worker.
Americans are an entitled race even in a colonial war, that is supposedly about democracy, cant imagine the hardcore shit that would occur in self defense.
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The US Pilot was in a fucking Posidien P-8.....what the fuck was he going to do??? ::)
He should've radio'd Iceman (standard protocol)
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He should've radio'd ESFitness (standard protocol)
Right.
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The point is by the time you get to war mode, USA wouldnt be justifying shit. Itd be like a kennedy raping a 18 year old sweatshop worker.
Americans are an entitled race even in a colonial war, that is supposedly about democracy, cant imagine the hardcore shit that would occur in self defense.
If we were at war with the chinks my neighborhood would be a bloodbath.
And my life interesting.
I will fight you, you fucking ugly little chink.
My name is Tom Armstrong.
I'll send you my address.
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Right.
ESFitness would've started World War III
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Remember what Isoroku Yamamoto said about AMERICA:
I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.
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ESFitness would've started World War III
And end it real quick.
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Remember what Isoroku Yamamoto said about AMERICA:
I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.
Smart guk.
Too late to the table.
Sorry 'bout them three eyed babies.
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the americans wont fuck with china.
or anyone else with the capability of defending themselves.
they are happy to bully weaker nations.
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If we were at war with the chinks my neighborhood would be a bloodbath.
And my life interesting.
I will fight you, you fucking ugly little chink.
My name is Tom Armstrong.
I'll send you my address.
U wouldn't do shit tough guy :D ;D oh brother!
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(CNN) - A Chinese fighter jet made several "dangerous" and "unprofessional" passes at a U.S. Navy plane this week -- coming as close as 20 feet at one point -- in what the White House called a "deeply concerning provocation."
http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/22/world/asia/us-china-air-encounter/index.html?c=homepage-t
The U.S. Pilot let that Chinese "hot shot" get away with it. But I know somebody that wouldn't have....
Probably the result of Chinese plane malfunction, after all it's "MADE IN CHINA"
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Quite delicate incident, the gooks got the slobby Americans by the their balls due to the multimega billion bond hold in US treasury bonds. USA dare not mess too hard with them due to the economic instability it would cause (2008 all over again).
This is the reason why 'murica has been so slack with the chinks and their allies.
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Quite delicate incident, the gooks got the slobby Americans by the their balls due to the multimega billion bond hold in US treasury bonds. USA dare not mess too hard with them due to the economic instability it would cause (2008 all over again).
This is the reason why 'murica has been so slack with the chinks and their allies.
ESFitness might have a thing or two to say about economic instability..... as he punches every Chinese citizen IN THE FACE!!!!!
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Quite delicate incident, the gooks got the slobby Americans by the their balls due to the multimega billion bond hold in US treasury bonds. USA dare not mess too hard with them due to the economic instability it would cause (2008 all over again).
This is the reason why 'murica has been so slack with the chinks and their allies.
Racist post reported
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Probably the result of Chinese plane malfunction, after all it's "MADE IN CHINA"
you do know that most things are made in china?
another fun fact? since Volvo got bought by USA the quality went shit, early reports since it was bought by China it has gotten better.
wonder why, hmmm..... ::)
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If we were at war with the chinks my neighborhood would be a bloodbath.
I'll send you my address.
No it wouldnt.
Regardless of people's opinions, china has exactly zero chance of gettinf a sizeable combat force into the US.
They have zero naval doctrine regarding logistics and supply chain.
Their carriers suck and are broken down russian junk
NO Country can pose a threat to the US without carrier battle groups to bring the fight to us. They have no way of transporting trooos nor supplying them, they simoly cannot fight thisbfar away from their soil.
Weve spent the last 100 years perfecting our ability to wage sustained warfare across the globe. No one else can do it. Not even the russians.
They literally could not get their troops here to fight. Without naval and air support they couldnt possibly land any ground troops, and anything trying to air drop troops would be blown out of the sky before it got halfway across the ocean by OUR carrier battle groups.
In the modern world, you have to have carriers to wage war, and you have to have the supply chain to support them and the means to transport and land troops. China doesnt have it.
They could never land a conventional force anywhere near us, its logistically impossible for them right now. Unless they nuked the shit out of the coasts theyd never get near here.
On the flip side, we caj wage war anywhere on the globe effectively thanks to our century of developing and honing our skills.
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Why is this chink not feeding fish?
Fuck you obama.
Pithy, but a valid question. The weak invite war, not preclude it.
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No it wouldnt.
Regardless of people's opinions, china has exactly zero chance of gettinf a sizeable combat force into the US.
On the flip side, we caj wage war anywhere on the globe effectively thanks to our century of developing and honing our skills.
How come they are getting owned by stone age Afghans and Middle Age Iraqis??
and 9-11 it looked easy to blow up 3 huge buildings for them.
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How come they are getting owned by stone age Afghans and Middle Age Iraqis??
and 9-11 it looked easy to blow up 3 huge buildings for them.
Owned. lol - Let's look at the scoreboard Dead Americans = fuck all. Dead Muslims = Countless
The Muslim world are a mere annoyance in the scheme of things.
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How come they are getting owned by stone age Afghans and Middle Age Iraqis??
and 9-11 it looked easy to blow up 3 huge buildings for them.
After 9/11, Americans hit the snooze button and went back to sleep. Do something real, like a Beslan in the US, and our righteous anger will lay the Middle East to glass. And any progressive that got in the way would have their neck stretched like Robin Williams.
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We have that Roman mentality as Americans. We are the best, and we can't be beaten.
Shockwave is absolutely right about foreign invasion. For 1,000 years, Rome was exactly the same.
Nobody dared march on Rome.
Except in the end.............
America will not last forever.
Just as Rome and it's provinces are now called Italy.
What will America be called in 1,000 years?
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We have that Roman mentality as Americans. We are the best, and we can't be beaten.
Shockwave is absolutely right about foreign invasion. For 1,000 years, Rome was exactly the same.
Nobody dared march on Rome.
Except in the end.............
America will not last forever.
Just as Rome and it's provinces are now called Italy.
What will America be called in 1,000 years?
Western Europia :D
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What will America be called in 1,000 years?
The North American Game Preserve on the home world of the Terran Military Empire.
Bank on it.
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The North American Game Preserve on the home world of the Terran Military Empire.
Bank on it.
Explain the name aj.
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Explain the name aj.
For the most part, we are a species that is specialized for two things: killing and fucking. If we can get our head out of our asses and stomp out the peacenik/hippie bullshit and get back to our militaristic ways (and avoid self-immolation), we are biologically a force to be reckoned with galactically.
The best scientific advances have come as a result of war fighting capability. We have no interest in interstellar travel for scientific or peaceful purposes, but tell the world that we need to go kick some ET ass and you'd have Texans and ISIS guys shoulder to shoulder down at the recruitment center.
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For the most part, we are a species that is specialized for two things: killing and fucking. If we can get our head out of our asses and stomp out the peacenik/hippie bullshit and get back to our militaristic ways (and avoid self-immolation), we are biologically a force to be reckoned with galactically.
The best scientific advances have come as a result of war fighting capability. We have no interest in interstellar travel for scientific or peaceful purposes, but tell the world that we need to go kick some ET ass and you'd have Texans and ISIS guys shoulder to shoulder down at the recruitment center.
So are you counting on an alien invasion in the future?
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So are you counting on an alien invasion in the future?
No, I am counting on something extra terrestrial to go kill.
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No, I am counting on something extra terrestrial to go kill.
And wouldn't that be a reason for ETs to kill us off, because we are just a violent species that keeps repeating the same things and not learning? I think we should be balanced on all fronts.
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And wouldn't that be a reason for ETs to kill us off, because we are just a violent species that keeps repeating the same things and not learning? I think we should be balanced on all fronts.
Maybe, but they biologically may not be as programmed for wanton violence and destruction as we are. Let's face it: if we become starfaring, it'll be against the odds. But I like that action.
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Maybe, but they biologically may not be as programmed for wanton violence and destruction as we are. Let's face it: if we become starfaring, it'll be against the odds. But I like that action.
It will be the end of us. Picking fights just to pick fights, ain't the smartest thing. Especially if there maybe (very well probably are) more advanced civilizations with better weaponry and tech.
It's funny but almost every dominant culture that has existed has always considered other cultures that either were their equals or that they have subjugated as "savages", uneducated, uncivilized, etc. Always referring to them as being violent and as aspiring to be more cerebral.
If anything, the chances are we will become more like the "Greys", but with a slight militaristic violent streak. If not breeding those particularly violence/soldiers, and those for scientific endeavors.
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It will be the end of us. Picking fights just to pick fights, ain't the smartest thing. Especially if there maybe (very well probably are) more advanced civilizations with better weaponry and tech.
It's funny but almost every dominant culture that has existed has always considered other cultures that either were their equals or that they have subjugated as "savages", uneducated, uncivilized, etc. Always referring to them as being violent and as aspiring to be more cerebral.
If anything, the chances are we will become more like the "Greys", but with a slight militaristic violent streak. If not breeding those particularly violence/soldiers, and those for scientific endeavors.
We almost always assume that an ET race will have equal tech in war fighting as they do in space travel. That's a human-centric thought process. We assume it because it's how we would be, nothing more. I posit that we are unique in the universe because of our violent tendencies and that we could very well overwhelm a technologically superior for with the savagery of our attacks. It's quite logical that an advanced ET race would never comprehend something as dramatically stupid as a shahid martyrdom.
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How would the USA react if a Chinese navy jet was flying around the gulf of Mexico?
More polite than if it was a plane from a middle-eastern country for sure! :D
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Head the warning America or muslims will take you down with the rest of us.
The Kinese fighter pilot was a poet and issued an abstract but fair warning.
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Head the warning America or muslims will take you down with the rest of us.
The Kinese fighter pilot was a poet and issued an abstract but fair warning.
Correction, a poet of sorts.
One that soars with the Falcons in the heme-iron breeze.
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How come they are getting owned by stone age Afghans and Middle Age Iraqis??
and 9-11 it looked easy to blow up 3 huge buildings for them.
Because thats not conventional warfare.
Thats a completely different style of warfare that's next to impossible to win without completely eliminating the indigenous population. Russia failed at it, the french failed, we failed, britain failed....
You start a REAL, conventional, pitched war, and youre gonna see somebody get fucking slaughtered.....
Anyway, none of that has anything to do with China's inability to wage war away from their own soil.
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No it wouldnt.
Regardless of people's opinions, china has exactly zero chance of gettinf a sizeable combat force into the US.
They have zero naval doctrine regarding logistics and supply chain.
Their carriers suck and are broken down russian junk
NO Country can pose a threat to the US without carrier battle groups to bring the fight to us. They have no way of transporting trooos nor supplying them, they simoly cannot fight thisbfar away from their soil.
Weve spent the last 100 years perfecting our ability to wage sustained warfare across the globe. No one else can do it. Not even the russians.
They literally could not get their troops here to fight. Without naval and air support they couldnt possibly land any ground troops, and anything trying to air drop troops would be blown out of the sky before it got halfway across the ocean by OUR carrier battle groups.
In the modern world, you have to have carriers to wage war, and you have to have the supply chain to support them and the means to transport and land troops. China doesnt have it.
They could never land a conventional force anywhere near us, its logistically impossible for them right now. Unless they nuked the shit out of the coasts theyd never get near here.
On the flip side, we caj wage war anywhere on the globe effectively thanks to our century of developing and honing our skills.
And what about in 20 or 30 years?
If they start mass-producing aircraft carriers etc?
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China need only declare economic warfare at their leisure, which they've already made preparations for.
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And what about in 20 or 30 years?
If they start mass-producing aircraft carriers etc?
It's not just the carriers themselves... its the entire naval doctrine. They need battlegroups to protect the carriers... they need logistics to supply them... they need resupply points across the globe, constant rotations of battlegroups and personnel, the list goes on. That's not even getting into the air wings, parts, personnel and supplies that goes along with them
Our doctrine came out of WWII experiences, itd be a massive undertaking and ive seen estimates thatd itd take them 50 years to figure it out. The russians never did.
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China need only declare economic warfare at their leisure, which they've already made preparations for.
Ive read up quite a bit on this as well... basically without the threat of force china really cant do all that much to us economically.
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Because thats not conventional warfare.
Thats a completely different style of warfare that's next to impossible to win without completely eliminating the indigenous population. Russia failed at it, the french failed, we failed, britain failed....
You start a REAL, conventional, pitched war, and youre gonna see somebody get fucking slaughtered.....
Anyway, none of that has anything to do with China's inability to wage war away from their own soil.
Absolutely agree, but the loons in charge are hell bent on wearing America out with their warped ideals and ill fated (foreign)policies.
Michael Scheuer is a man who has a lot to say and I think he has some valid opinions.
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China need only declare economic warfare at their leisure, which they've already made preparations for.
China is getting greedy slapping fines on mostly luxury automakers for having parts that cost, well like a luxury car's parts usually do cost...expensive, and accusing them of price fixing
http://jalopnik.com/is-saab-cursed-1623793923 (http://jalopnik.com/is-saab-cursed-1623793923)
The Xinhua report said the cost of replacing all the spare parts in a Mercedes-Benz C-Class could be 12 times more than buying a new vehicle, citing a report from the China Automotive Maintenance and Repair Trade Association.
If this keeps up, some manufacturers may just pull out, if they see their profits shriveling up, and or fines (justified or not) eating into their profits.
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Ive read up quite a bit on this as well... basically without the threat of force china really cant do all that much to us economically.
They could drop kick the U.S economy in a heart beat if they elected to.
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We almost always assume that an ET race will have equal tech in war fighting as they do in space travel. That's a human-centric thought process. We assume it because it's how we would be, nothing more. I posit that we are unique in the universe because of our violent tendencies and that we could very well overwhelm a technologically superior for with the savagery of our attacks. It's quite logical that an advanced ET race would never comprehend something as dramatically stupid as a shahid martyrdom.
You ever watch Falling Skies, by chance?They could drop kick the U.S economy in a heart beat if they elected to.
And who is gonna by their cheap stuff?
Or their services. I read somewhere that on some packages of fish, it will read caught in Canada, filleted in China...and then it's ship back here. So, you have have many parts of their economy that is dependent on US/North American industries.
Sinking our economy would sink theirs. Plus, you have a lot of rich Chinese that have to have their Western goods. If the US tanks, you have a lot of rich folks really pissed at their own government. Which means focus and money could be turned towards them.
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They could drop kick the U.S economy in a heart beat if they elected to.
They'd actually have to have the threat of force to pull it off though. Right now they don't. And IF they chose to go the route youre speaking of, it'd fuck them as well since theyre so tied to us. Everyone wants to make china out like they hold this boogeyman over our heads but until theyre more independent economically or have a legit military threat, theyre a paper tiger to us.
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You ever watch Falling Skies, by chance?And who is gonna by their cheap stuff?
Or their services. I read somewhere that on some packages of fish, it will read caught in Canada, filleted in China...and then it's ship back here. So, you have have many parts of their economy that is dependent on US/North American industries.
Sinking our economy would sink theirs. Plus, you have a lot of rich Chinese that have to have their Western goods. If the US tanks, you have a lot of rich folks really pissed at their own government. Which means focus and money could be turned towards them.
China couldn't do shit to us without ruining their own economy right now.
Also heard that chinas economy has been stalling and theyve been faking a lot of their economic growth in an effort to make themselves appear stronger than they are.
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They'd actually have to have the threat of force to pull it off though. Right now they don't. And IF they chose to go the route youre speaking of, it'd fuck them as well since theyre so tied to us. Everyone wants to make china out like they hold this boogeyman over our heads but until theyre more independent economically or have a legit military threat, theyre a paper tiger to us.
You're very wrong. Why do you think they've been buying gold like mad? They are building gold reserves in part to offset a mass write off in U.S treasuries. They need not rely upon the fat American consumer indefinitely, as they have an ample population to buy the very products they produce, once they allow their currency to rise. You're also not considering who their major ally is.
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You're very wrong. Why do you think they've been buying gold like mad? They are building gold reserves in part to offset a mass write off in U.S treasuries. They need not rely upon the fat American consumer indefinitely, as they have an ample population to buy the very products they produce, once they allow their currency to rise. You're also not considering who their major ally is.
Down the road absolutely. ... but I think youre buying way too heavily into the flip side agenda just as americans buy tok hard into the pro - America agenda.
Right now, we need each other and theyd be comitting economic suicide by doing what you're speaking of. As you already alluded too, their citizens dont currently have enough buying power to purchase their own goods and no one else to purchase them. Thwyre doing what they can do to try and offset it im sure but at this point its not feasible
Also, its been pointed out several times that they've been distorting and inflating their numbers to appear stronger.... ghost city builds come to mind.
Everyone wants there to be a super nemesis to the US control of the global economy but it just doesnt exist right now. Someday, absolutely. .. but not for quite a while.
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Abacus wingman of peace ::)
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Abacus wingman of peace ::)
Nice one Tommy! :D
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It's not just the carriers themselves... its the entire naval doctrine. They need battlegroups to protect the carriers... they need logistics to supply them... they need resupply points across the globe, constant rotations of battlegroups and personnel, the list goes on. That's not even getting into the air wings, parts, personnel and supplies that goes along with them
Our doctrine came out of WWII experiences, itd be a massive undertaking and ive seen estimates thatd itd take them 50 years to figure it out. The russians never did.
Ok. Good points.
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You're very wrong. Why do you think they've been buying gold like mad? They are building gold reserves in part to offset a mass write off in U.S treasuries. They need not rely upon the fat American consumer indefinitely, as they have an ample population to buy the very products they produce, once they allow their currency to rise. You're also not considering who their major ally is.
Their population wants real authentic product. They don't trust "Chinese made product". They are addicted to Western goods, Western Style. Sure, they produce a lot of stuff for us, but they don't come up with new ideas. To the rich who buy, authenticity is king.
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Their population wants real authentic product. They don't trust "Chinese made product". They are addicted to Western goods, Western Style. Sure, they produce a lot of stuff for us, but they don't come up with new ideas. To the rich who buy, authenticity is king.
Ok "mr china insider"
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Ok "mr china insider"
no, that be garebear. He's got a Chinese woman and family now. He didn't take too kindly to disrespect And you guys ran him off :'(
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The only way China could get troops on American soil is if they were already here in hiding working and living among us... Any and all aircraft carriers that China has could be taken out with in minutes.
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no, that be garebear. He's got a Chinese woman and family now. He didn't take too kindly to disrespect And you guys ran him off :'(
Wasn't he the pedo? Starting to remember....
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US pilot should've flashed his dick. Made Chinese fighter crash out of shame.
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Wasn't he the pedo? Starting to remember....
People say stuff, and then it becomes "Getbig fact". He had his pic taken with kids. With other Westerners. He got pissed off because people were saying it, and left. He had good insight into Chinese culture and good pics. My guess is that he either wanted to know about another culture or was disenchanted with American culture and women or it was a little bit of both.
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Also, its been pointed out several times that they've been distorting and inflating their numbers to appear stronger.... ghost city builds come to mind.
Everyone wants there to be a super nemesis to the US control of the global economy but it just doesnt exist right now. Someday, absolutely. .. but not for quite a while.
the ghost city shit for the record is total bullshit.
The main one that people keep referring to, is up in mongolia. its a horridly cold place, its no surprise no one wants to live there.
I'm not saying its a sure thing, but they are far more resilient than we are to market turmoil.
As long as the chinese government is seen to be working for china first, the people will walk lock step.
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ICEMAN WAS A PUSSY WHEN THE SHIT GOT REAL.
MAVERICK was the hot shot bad ass that saved the day
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The only way China could get troops on American soil is if they were already here in hiding working and living among us... Any and all aircraft carriers that China has could be taken out with in minutes.
When is the last time Chinese troops even engaged in any type of urban warfare?
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When is the last time Chinese troops even engaged in any type of urban warfare?
Tienemen square.
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USA and China are pigs feeding pigs.
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Bet they can't see shit coming from the sides. (http://pds3.egloos.com/pds/200707/17/03/d0019803_01073839.jpg)
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Bet they can't see shit coming from the sides. (http://pds3.egloos.com/pds/200707/17/03/d0019803_01073839.jpg)
I can't see shit either. Must affect Irish people too.
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Tienemen square.
I know next to nothing about that event besides the famous tank scene.
Were the protesters even well armed?
I always that was more of a massacre.