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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Lobstah on August 23, 2014, 04:53:25 PM
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I'm just going to leave this right here and go prepare myself for the onslaught of ignorance.
http://www.tonygentilcore.com/blog/an-open-letter-to-everyone-who-has-told-women-dont-get-too-muscular/ (http://www.tonygentilcore.com/blog/an-open-letter-to-everyone-who-has-told-women-dont-get-too-muscular/)
An Open Letter to Everyone Who Has Told Women “Don’t Get Too Muscular”
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Tony used to be my strength coach. Sharp guy.
I got through to my wife years ago. She now trains hard and has real muscles.
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I'm just going to leave this right here and go prepare myself for the onslaught of ignorance.
http://www.tonygentilcore.com/blog/an-open-letter-to-everyone-who-has-told-women-dont-get-too-muscular/ (http://www.tonygentilcore.com/blog/an-open-letter-to-everyone-who-has-told-women-dont-get-too-muscular/)
Don't you chase women too?
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I'm just going to leave this right here and go prepare myself for the onslaught of ignorance.
http://www.tonygentilcore.com/blog/an-open-letter-to-everyone-who-has-told-women-dont-get-too-muscular/ (http://www.tonygentilcore.com/blog/an-open-letter-to-everyone-who-has-told-women-dont-get-too-muscular/)
Not ignorance Lob.... I like an in shape woman, nicely toned....it's very sexy. but there is a tipping point that is going to turn off the majority of men. I agree its high douchebaggery to tell someone what to do with their body. but if a woman takes herself to the extreme end of the spectrum she needs to realize she is marginalizing herself from the vast majority of men
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I'm just going to leave this right here and go prepare myself for the onslaught of ignorance.
http://www.tonygentilcore.com/blog/an-open-letter-to-everyone-who-has-told-women-dont-get-too-muscular/ (http://www.tonygentilcore.com/blog/an-open-letter-to-everyone-who-has-told-women-dont-get-too-muscular/)
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(http://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/full/855041455.jpg)
(http://forums.steroid.com/attachments/pictures-pro-bodybuilders/36661d1090238284-womens-bodybuilding-fo_2004bodyrock_0056.jpg)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=280763.0;attach=320696;image)
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Say what you want but she is awesome when fronting ACDC
(http://forums.steroid.com/attachments/pictures-pro-bodybuilders/36661d1090238284-womens-bodybuilding-fo_2004bodyrock_0056.jpg)
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Say what you want but she is awesome when fronting ACDC
(http://forums.steroid.com/attachments/pictures-pro-bodybuilders/36661d1090238284-womens-bodybuilding-fo_2004bodyrock_0056.jpg)
Brian Johnson ;D
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Not ignorance Lob.... I like an in shape woman, nicely toned....it's very sexy. but there is a tipping point that is going to turn off the majority of men. I agree its high douchebaggery to tell someone what to do with their body. but if a woman takes herself to the extreme end of the spectrum she needs to realize she is marginalizing herself from the vast majority of men
the same could be said about men who bodybuild, but more importantly, women don't need men to help us "realize" things. We're not children. We also don't do everything for the purpose of attracting dudes.
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Don't you chase women too?
I have no idea how your question pertains to the matter at hand
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Lob, I don't take advices from this man.
did you even click the actual link? The article is written by a woman.
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the same could be said about men who bodybuild, but more importantly, women don't need men to help us "realize" things. We're not children. We also don't do everything for the purpose of attracting dudes.
Agreed. Guilty on women meeting a man to help them realize...my bad.
we are on the same page. I don't train for women, and I realize that my look probably turns off a lot of women.
that being said, I didn't write a blog to complain about it . if you don't give a fuck, just don't give a fuck...that's my M.O.
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Everyone has a right to their body, do what pleases you. But anything beyond around here I can't support. It'd be like a man taking estrogen hormones.
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Whatever you say, "Butch"
wow, irrefutable argument.
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the same could be said about men who bodybuild, but more importantly, women don't need men to help us "realize" things. We're not children. We also don't do everything for the purpose of attracting dudes.
The same could be said about men and is said by both men and women. The difference is if a woman takes an abundance of male hormones they begin turning into men physically. Not unlike if a man takes female hormones and begins growing breasts etc.
However my position is to each his own and everyone is free to have their own opinion on muscularity.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=280763.0;attach=320696;image)
Nothing like a fineeeee looking Women with hairy pits :o
Do you think she has hairy nipples to :o :P
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Say what you want but she is awesome when fronting ACDC
(http://forums.steroid.com/attachments/pictures-pro-bodybuilders/36661d1090238284-womens-bodybuilding-fo_2004bodyrock_0056.jpg)
;D
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Tony is a good researcher, writer, marketer and from what I hear a good trainer. He's part owner of Cressy Performance. I know Eric and he's good as well but there is always that question in the back of my head about how both he and Cressy, with really little hands on experience gets degree and started out as writers instead of trainers. Somewhere along the lines there's that lack of hands on experience.
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My gf's old friend did a physique show or whatever class it was here couple years ago. Her first show. Took more juice than I ever took to be about 90lbs on stage. Finally got my gf to realise all girls in mags are photo shops and drugs.
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Everyone has a right to their body, do what pleases you. But anything beyond around here I can't support. It'd be like a man taking estrogen hormones.
That's just it- suggesting that women do or do not do things, lest they lose your valuable and incomparable support, is shitty. This is not about what you're attracted to or not attracted to. This is about women being allowed to make their own decisions and you realizing that unless your opinion is solicited, it is entirely unwelcome and arrogant as fuck for you to impose it
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the same could be said about men who bodybuild, but more importantly, women don't need men to help us "realize" things. We're not children. We also don't do everything for the purpose of attracting dudes.
No one is forcing anyone to do anything, least of all how they choose to make themselves look. No, women are not children and neither are men, that is the realm of girls and boys and while we often behave like we're kids in reality we're kidding no one.
And yes, women don't do everything for the purpose of attracting dudes but when you get right down to it, what is the point of repelling us? Unless of course that is the point.
I have never understood a woman that hates men trying to look like one via male hormones and weight training. Deep voice? Check? Have to shave? Check. Male pattern baldness? Check. No breasts? Check. Shenis? Check.
It is indefensible and yet...
Surely you are above this? There is right and wrong and good and bad. Then there's just plain disgustingly fugly. That would describe a woman on male hormones. It's not all fifty shades of gay. Even if some people think there's at least fifty. Only a total emasculated schome would find a harmonized woMan "attractive".
Do as you please, say what you want but do not expect to be lauded for this one.
Be well.
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No one is forcing anyone to do anything, least of all how they choose to make themselves look. No, women are not children and neither are men, that is the realm of girls and boys and while we often behave like we're kids in reality we're kidding no one.
And yes, women don't do everything for the purpose of attracting dudes but when you get right down to it, what is the point of repelling us? Unless of course that is the point.
I have never understood a woman that hates men trying to look like one via male hormones and weight training. Deep voice? Check? Have to shave? Check. Male pattern baldness? Check. No breasts? Check. Shenis? Check.
It is indefensible and yet...
Surely you are above this? There is right and wrong and good and bad. Then there's just plain disgustingly fugly. That would describe a woman on male hormones. It's not all fifty shades of gay. Even if some people think there's at least fifty. Only a total emasculated schome would find a harmonized woMan "attractive".
Do as you please, say what you want but do not expect to be lauded for this one.
Be well.
TRUTH! X a billion!
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That's just it- suggesting that women do or do not do things, lest they lose your valuable and incomparable support, is shitty. This is not about what you're attracted to or not attracted to. This is about women being allowed to make their own decisions and you realizing that unless your opinion is solicited, it is entirely unwelcome and arrogant as fuck for you to impose it
If deterring a female I care about from turning herself into a drag queen makes me an arrogant fuck so be it.
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That's just it- suggesting that women do or do not do things, lest they lose your valuable and incomparable support, is shitty. This is not about what you're attracted to or not attracted to. This is about women being allowed to make their own decisions and you realizing that unless your opinion is solicited, it is entirely unwelcome and arrogant as fuck for you to impose it
You are totally right in saying it's there decision to make in how they want to look or what they do to there own selves but no, it is not arrogant for anyone to have an opinion.
On one hand you are saying they can do what they want then on the other hand you say people can't express there opinions and refer to it as arrogant if it does not agree with these ladies
choice to do certain things with there bodies.
It's hypocritical to say these ladies are free to express themselves in a certain way yet others cant express there opinions on it ?
These are ladies getting on stage or having pics and vids shot which makes them open to public opinion if you or they like it or not. :)
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We are peeps Lob, but I'm not following you here.
you start a thread basically asking for opinions, and then it's "fuck you, who asked you?"
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wow, irrefutable argument.
There's no argument.
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Out of all those ladies why does Christina look so out of place , is it because she is a female ... oh wait :-\ ???
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I'm all for women making gains and getting in shape..but this shit makes me want to puke
Just my rightful opinion
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This is about women being allowed to make their own decisions and you realizing that unless your opinion is solicited, it is entirely unwelcome and arrogant as fuck for you to impose it
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At the end of the day you are going to do whatever the fuck you want , was I arrogant went I told my cousin stop drinking and doing drugs ? BTW she died of heroin overdose .
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The percentage of women who men may think is too muscular is under 1 %...
"Too muscular" is also relative...
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You are totally right in saying it's there decision to make in how they want to look or what they do to there own selves but no, it is not arrogant for anyone to have an opinion.
On one hand you are saying they can do what they want then on the other hand you say people can't express there opinions and refer to it as arrogant if it does not agree with these ladies
choice to do certain things with there bodies.
It's hypocritical to say these ladies are free to express themselves in a certain way yet others cant express there opinions on it ?
These are ladies getting on stage or having pics and vids shot which makes them open to public opinion if you or they like it or not. :)
never said people aren't allowed to express their opinions, but to express your opinion to a grown woman who hasn't asked for it? yeah that's shitty. Imagine if you went out with your boys, you're minding your business, living your life, and some snarky broad came over to give you her opinion on your body, style, appearance. That shit would be rude and uncalled for. But that doesn't happen to men. It happens to women every single fucking day.
Also, to all the people who can't shut up about women and steroids, you might consider stepping outside of the bodybuilding bubble for a moment to realize that women with even a modicum of muscle are being told they're "too muscular" in the real world. the article doesn't mention competitors, steroids, or models at all because the article is about EVERY woman, EVERY day, ALL of the time. The article is not addressing this little subculture - we are so small in number that we're sort of irrelevant actually. I agree, you step on stage or in front of a camera, that is indirectly soliciting opinions. but going to the gym, minding your own business, and having people on the street constantly offering their opinion? That's entirely different. And entirely fucked up.
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We all want attention, whether it be from the opposite sex or the same sex, or both.
We may do things for our self (self attention?), but ultimately we want others to acknowledge what we have done. Our physique is the outward embodiment of what we have shaped and molded, and if no one took notice or complimented us on our hard work, then the true question is what was the point. After all, this is what people SEE.
If a person wants to get "too muscular" and they are a woman and are judged on it, oh well. That is what humans do, and men do because, well it's a woman. And women judge men as well. You never hear a woman say, "don't be too rich"---men get judged by women based upon their accomplishments, their cars, their monetary worth, their looks, etc. And we take it, because it is what it is.
Bottom line, we all make choices, and the consequences and repercussions of said choices are that we get judged on them. You cannot please everybody, if you are happy, truly happy with those choices, and whoever supports you, then that is vindication enough.
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never said people aren't allowed to express their opinions, but to express your opinion to a grown woman who hasn't asked for it? yeah that's shitty. Imagine if you went out with your boys, you're minding your business, living your life, and some snarky broad came over to give you her opinion on your body, style, appearance. That shit would be rude and uncalled for. But that doesn't happen to men. It happens to women every single fucking day.
Also, to all the people who can't shut up about women and steroids, you might consider stepping outside of the bodybuilding bubble for a moment to realize that women with even a modicum of muscle are being told they're "too muscular" in the real world. the article doesn't mention competitors, steroids, or models at all because the article is about EVERY woman, EVERY day, ALL of the time. The article is not addressing this little subculture - we are so small in number that we're sort of irrelevant actually. I agree, you step on stage or in front of a camera, that is indirectly soliciting opinions. but going to the gym, minding your own business, and having people on the street constantly offering their opinion? That's entirely different. And entirely fucked up.
Happens to dudes too. "Thats too much, it's gross"
who fucking asked you?
I hear you.
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We all want attention, whether it be from the opposite sex or the same sex, or both.
We may do things for our self (self attention?), but ultimately we want others to acknowledge what we have done. Our physique is the outward embodiment of what we have shaped and molded, and if no one took notice or complimented us on our hard work, then the true question is what was the point. After all, this is what people SEE.
If a person wants to get "too muscular" and they are a woman and are judged on it, oh well. That is what humans do, and men do because, well it's a woman. And women judge men as well. You never hear a woman say, "don't be too rich"---men get judged by women based upon their accomplishments, their cars, their monetary worth, their looks, etc. And we take it, because it is what it is.
Bottom line, we all make choices, and the consequences and repercussions of said choices are that we get judged on them. You cannot please everybody, if you are happy, truly happy with those choices, and whoever supports you, then that is vindication enough.
Pretty much this. Thank you Dr.Parker
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Happens to dudes too. "Thats too much, it's gross"
who fucking asked you?
I hear you.
Dude, I clearly forgot that men hate being told they shouldn't tell women what to do. Especially by women. I was expecting a lot of "back to the kitchen" shit, but not THIS level of ignorance.
I'm tapping out on this one. Wow.
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Pretty much this. Thank you Dr.Parker
enzo, did you read the article at all, or are you just responding to what you think it says? Because steroids are so far outside the scope of this... you're really not even responding to what has been presented.
Anyway, I said I was tapping out, so before I become Booty and leave the same thread ten times, I'm really out.
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enzo, did you read the article at all, or are you just responding to what you think it says? Because steroids are so far outside the scope of this... you're really not even responding to what has been presented.
Anyway, I said I was tapping out, so before I become Booty and leave the same thread ten times, I'm really out.
It's a lofty read so I skimmed. But I'll go back over it
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Dude, I clearly forgot that men hate being told they shouldn't tell women what to do. Especially by women. I was expecting a lot of "back to the kitchen" shit, but not THIS level of ignorance.
I'm tapping out on this one. Wow.
I remember we had a convo about something similar and you handed me my lunch...in a Peanuts lunchbox.
I have never verbally told a woman in the gym, outside of the gym, etc to "not get too muscular", as it was never my place to do so, or solicited. Giving unsolicited opinions to a person, a woman on what she should or should not do, can be understandably aggravating.
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As long as women does not take male hormones then there is no way she can look "too muscular". Problem with androgens is that they make you look like a man. And it's not a matter of muscles or definition anymore. You look like a man because... well, physiologically, you are a man without a dick. Or even a superman, if you take more than average man produces.
With all due respect Lobstah, I do not think this article applies to IFBB pro. You shouldn't be surprised that men usually are not into the type of physique you have. But hey, that's what you do for a living and you are quite succesful at it so why on earth would you give a fuck.
From my experience, average female works out 10x harder than average male and they quickly surpass males in certain exercises. It is hillarious to watch a "big" guy struggle with half rep 1 plate squats with "chick pad" on the barbell and then some small girl take the pad off (LOL) and do full warmup squats with same weight.
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I've never understood why any straight woman would want muscles. Ends up looking like a bulldyke.
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After reading the whole article I actually agree with the message. Like others stated, it's hormones in a female body I don't agree with.
Personally I'd never walk up to a random and give them my thoughts on their appearance, I'd be banned from Walmart :-X
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never said people aren't allowed to express their opinions, but to express your opinion to a grown woman who hasn't asked for it? yeah that's shitty. Imagine if you went out with your boys, you're minding your business, living your life, and some snarky broad came over to give you her opinion on your body, style, appearance. That shit would be rude and uncalled for. But that doesn't happen to men. It happens to women every single fucking day.
Also, to all the people who can't shut up about women and steroids, you might consider stepping outside of the bodybuilding bubble for a moment to realize that women with even a modicum of muscle are being told they're "too muscular" in the real world. the article doesn't mention competitors, steroids, or models at all because the article is about EVERY woman, EVERY day, ALL of the time. The article is not addressing this little subculture - we are so small in number that we're sort of irrelevant actually. I agree, you step on stage or in front of a camera, that is indirectly soliciting opinions. but going to the gym, minding your own business, and having people on the street constantly offering their opinion? That's entirely different. And entirely fucked up.
Tell that to the crossfit accountants
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Here's a pic of her -
(http://codyapp.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/292408_10152891841220096_1050987417_n.jpg).
Just giving it a read through, I doubt she was talking about the anaconda clitted beasties that roam the IFBB shows. Just a shoehorned article meant to sell product.
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Everyone is free to do as they please in life.
However, if one ends up looking like an abomination, then it is only human nature to be judged.
The hardcore women bodybuilders basically turn into men due to hormone usage.
To anyone outside of that little circle, they look repulsive.
Do you not see some of the pics in this thread Lobstah?
They literally look like men in drag.
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Here's a pic of her -
(http://codyapp.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/292408_10152891841220096_1050987417_n.jpg).
Just giving it a read through, I doubt she was talking about the anaconda clitted beasties that roam the IFBB shows. Just a shoehorned article meant to sell product.
Patchouli oil and hairy armpits. YUCK!
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never said people aren't allowed to express their opinions, but to express your opinion to a grown woman who hasn't asked for it? yeah that's shitty. Imagine if you went out with your boys, you're minding your business, living your life, and some snarky broad came over to give you her opinion on your body, style, appearance. That shit would be rude and uncalled for. But that doesn't happen to men. It happens to women every single fucking day.
Also, to all the people who can't shut up about women and steroids, you might consider stepping outside of the bodybuilding bubble for a moment to realize that women with even a modicum of muscle are being told they're "too muscular" in the real world. the article doesn't mention competitors, steroids, or models at all because the article is about EVERY woman, EVERY day, ALL of the time. The article is not addressing this little subculture - we are so small in number that we're sort of irrelevant actually. I agree, you step on stage or in front of a camera, that is indirectly soliciting opinions. but going to the gym, minding your own business, and having people on the street constantly offering their opinion? That's entirely different. And entirely fucked up.
To be fair I haven't read the article, I was basing it off the opinions we give on the pics posted of heavily enhanced females that we see posted on BB sites/forums , so apologies - I will read the article :)
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hahaha, none of us read the article ;D
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No one has the right to tell someone else what is too muscular and what is just fine. That being said, the opinions of many are expressed, and yes, it is different if one is in the industry on what is muscular, and one that is just from the mainstream.
Our friends not in this industry think Nicole Wilkins and Eric Stern are way too muscular and jacked up. They also think some local figure competitors are that way too. Hell, some think the bikini competitors are too muscular, because they don't look like the Playboy model next door.
But for many in the industry, the women bodybuilders whose voice has changed, who outmuscles guys and who just live for the gym and being bulky and 'manly' is just where it goes too far. No, you may not like that, but alas, there is rarely any sponsors or people who want to see that now, and less and less competitions. The Arnold dropped its Ms. International, and I think just 3-4 total contest a year now are held, whereas on a local level, they are gone. It is too 'muscular' and not enough interest.
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hahaha, none of us read the article ;D
Not true. We also read Lobstah's words. They said so much more and in turn, we commented.
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Our friends not in this industry think Nicole Wilkins and Eric Stern are way too muscular and jacked up. T
:D
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No one has the right to tell someone else what is too muscular and what is just fine. That being said, the opinions of many are expressed, and yes, it is different if one is in the industry on what is muscular, and one that is just from the mainstream.
Our friends not in this industry think Nicole Wilkins and Eric Stern are way too muscular and jacked up. They also think some local figure competitors are that way too. Hell, some think the bikini competitors are too muscular, because they don't look like the Playboy model next door.
But for many in the industry, the women bodybuilders whose voice has changed, who outmuscles guys and who just live for the gym and being bulky and 'manly' is just where it goes too far. No, you may not like that, but alas, there is rarely any sponsors or people who want to see that now, and less and less competitions. The Arnold dropped its Ms. International, and I think just 3-4 total contest a year now are held, whereas on a local level, they are gone. It is too 'muscular' and not enough interest.
Read this Lobstah.
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Not true. We also read Lobstah's words. They said so much more and in turn, we commented.
I meant the very cool, top-tier posters like myself, WG, and Che....
Personally, I don't click on outside links any more after a nasty experience with a goatse picture that wouldn't stop opening on my computer and traumatised a family member.
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I meant the very cool, top-tier posters like myself, WG, and Che....
Personally, I don't click on outside links any more after a nasty experience with a goatse picture that wouldn't stop opening on my computer and traumatised a family member.
;D
I strive all the more diligently to be one of you, my friend! ;D
Thanks for the smile and yes, I agree that some links are best left alone.
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No one has the right to tell someone else what is too muscular and what is just fine.
Actually they do:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
It is called The First Amendment.
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Dude, I clearly forgot that men hate being told they shouldn't tell women what to do. Especially by women. I was expecting a lot of "back to the kitchen" shit, but not THIS level of ignorance.
I'm tapping out on this one. Wow.
Lob, I'm quite fond of you as a poster but for the life of me I can't figure out what your intention was in this thread.
At the end of the day everybody should not give a fuck what anyone else does and if people "hate" then let them, who cares?? Making a thread like this on this forum will accomplish nothing for anyone. It's like starting an abortion thread or a politics thread or Shizzo starting a thread about posting.
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No one has the right to tell someone else what is too muscular and what is just fine. That being said, the opinions of many are expressed, and yes, it is different if one is in the industry on what is muscular, and one that is just from the mainstream.
Our friends not in this industry think Nicole Wilkins and Eric Stern are way too muscular and jacked up. They also think some local figure competitors are that way too. Hell, some think the bikini competitors are too muscular, because they don't look like the Playboy model next door.
But for many in the industry, the women bodybuilders whose voice has changed, who outmuscles guys and who just live for the gym and being bulky and 'manly' is just where it goes too far. No, you may not like that, but alas, there is rarely any sponsors or people who want to see that now, and less and less competitions. The Arnold dropped its Ms. International, and I think just 3-4 total contest a year now are held, whereas on a local level, they are gone. It is too 'muscular' and not enough interest.
Some here say you aren't muscular enough to be our leader Ron, but to them I say that at least you are a brave and strong man and not an eater of whore pussy.
I hope that I have defended you appropriately.
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That's just it- suggesting that women do or do not do things, lest they lose your valuable and incomparable support, is shitty. This is not about what you're attracted to or not attracted to. This is about women being allowed to make their own decisions and you realizing that unless your opinion is solicited, it is entirely unwelcome and arrogant as fuck for you to impose it
then why would someone elses 'opinion' influence your decision?
an opinion cant be imposed on someone. its an opinion. in and of itself it means absolutely nothing to anyone but the person saying it. you choose to let that opinion impose itself on you.
at what point do people stop worrying about what others think, and their 'opinions', and just do for their own sake. fuck people need to man the fuck up. we're becoming a society of crybabies and wimps.
make your own decisions. why the fuck would you allow anyones 'opinion' to influence that is beyond me.
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i love iris kyle
she opened a milkshake bar with her darling hidetada yamazaki
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iris kyle truly indeed a phenomanal athelete
9 sandows NINE SANDOWS!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I'm just going to leave this right here and go prepare myself for the onslaught of ignorance.
http://www.tonygentilcore.com/blog/an-open-letter-to-everyone-who-has-told-women-dont-get-too-muscular/ (http://www.tonygentilcore.com/blog/an-open-letter-to-everyone-who-has-told-women-dont-get-too-muscular/)
An Open Letter to Everyone Who Has Told Women “Don’t Get Too Muscular”
I see where you're coming from
My take is as long as a woman is natural and working out within those parameters fine.
Once a woman starts to inject male hormones and drugs into her body
That for me is disgusting, because she is then effectively trying to be masculine and a man
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then why would someone elses 'opinion' influence your decision?
an opinion cant be imposed on someone. its an opinion. in and of itself it means absolutely nothing to anyone but the person saying it. you choose to let that opinion impose itself on you.
at what point do people stop worrying about what others think, and their 'opinions', and just do for their own sake. fuck people need to man the fuck up. we're becoming a society of crybabies and wimps.
make your own decisions. why the fuck would you allow anyones 'opinion' to influence that is beyond me.
Exactly
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A women should do with her body whatever she wants!!
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You have to ask what is a woman trying to accomplish when she turns her body into something men find revolting expect for a few freaks and weirdos.
(http://images.t-nation.com/forum_images/1/0/1083324.1148876617811.FO_04MsUniverse_0268.jpg)
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You have to ask what is a woman trying to accomplish when she turns her body into something men find revolting expect for a few freaks and weirdos.
It's not shocking that you would find a woman with any muscle intimidating, given what you look like. Beta fags like yourself will always struggle with your own masculinity. It's inevitable. I am sure that there is some bovine retard out there waiting for you. She will detest your girlish physique, but she'll let you rub one out on her fat rolls.
As for actual men, we have preferences just like women. Personally, I find the fitness/physique look sort of appealing. Of course, a lot of that might be based on the fact that I can appreciate the hard work and dedication and of course, they can appreciate the same in me.
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You have to ask what is a woman trying to accomplish when she turns her body into something men find revolting expect for a few freaks and weirdos.
(http://images.t-nation.com/forum_images/1/0/1083324.1148876617811.FO_04MsUniverse_0268.jpg)
Being a monster freak at 260lb you should know better then most of us.
What are you trying to accomplish with something most men find revolting except a few freaks at the Blue Oyster?
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Whatever a women does with her body is strictly her business. If it ends up being attractive or beautiful even better. But other then that is not for us to judge at all. Seriously
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i love iris kyle
she opened a milkshake bar with her darling hidetada yamazaki
;D ;D ;D
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then why would someone elses 'opinion' influence your decision?
an opinion cant be imposed on someone. its an opinion. in and of itself it means absolutely nothing to anyone but the person saying it. you choose to let that opinion impose itself on you.
at what point do people stop worrying about what others think, and their 'opinions', and just do for their own sake. fuck people need to man the fuck up. we're becoming a society of crybabies and wimps.
make your own decisions. why the fuck would you allow anyones 'opinion' to influence that is beyond me.
Because ultimately, and subconsciously we care about other's "opinions", even when we say we don't. We like the attention we get, whether its positive or negative. What we don't like is when someone voices an opinion that we don't like. But, we will accept all the positive attention (ex. "I like what you've done.").
So, basically, it's a way of censoring people...censoring what you don't like or don't want to hear.
Think about it, "Stop telling"...That is telling others to "stop" doing what you detest, what you don't want to hear, but at the same time, you want others to listen to you.
I saw something the other day about another "Stop telling"...and you want to say, "or what?"
Is it aggravating? Yes. Should people offer unsolicited opinions about someone's physique? Well, it seems only if it is in the positive. Or if it is not the one thing you detest.
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It's not shocking that you would find a woman with any muscle intimidating, given what you look like. Beta fags like yourself will always struggle with your own masculinity. It's inevitable. I am sure that there is some bovine retard out there waiting for you. She will detest your girlish physique, but she'll let you rub one out on her fat rolls.
As for actual men, we have preferences just like women. Personally, I find the fitness/physique look sort of appealing. Of course, a lot of that might be based on the fact that I can appreciate the hard work and dedication and of course, they can appreciate the same in me.
Have you ever slept with a high level, contest-ready Fitness competitor ? It's yucky
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Whatever a women does with her body is strictly her business. If it ends up being attractive or beautiful even better. But other then that is not for us to judge at all. Seriously
Everybody judges. It's human nature. We've been judging each other since we've learned to recognize the differences in each other.
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Whatever a women does with her body is strictly her business. If it ends up being attractive or beautiful even better. But other then that is not for us to judge at all. Seriously
Actually, that's not true. In Sweden , if the authorities suspect AAS use, she will be arrested and tested. It is not strictly her business at all. It is police business as well. A judge will judge her.
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Have you ever slept with a high level, contest-ready Fitness competitor ? It's yucky
Admittedly no. Not at that level. Define "yucky".
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I think this would be my limit as far as female muscularity. toned but not ripped and manly looking
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y182/swingbell/bm/bm%205/bm0510xrachelmclish.jpg)
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Admittedly no. Not at that level. Define "yucky".
They are hard, they have better abs than you, vascularity, speaking purely my personal preference...it felt odd, like a muscular , small dude with implants and a vagina
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I think this would be my limit as far as female muscularity. toned but not ripped and manly looking
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y182/swingbell/bm/bm%205/bm0510xrachelmclish.jpg)
Bigger tits and thats perfect
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They are hard, they have better abs than you, vascularity, speaking purely my personal preference...it felt odd, like a muscular , small dude with implants and a vagina
haha yes must feel like fucking a teenage boy lol
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They are hard, they have better abs than you, vascularity, speaking purely my personal preference...it felt odd, like a muscular , small dude with implants and a vagina
That's not an appealing mental picture.
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It's not shocking that you would find a woman with any muscle intimidating, given what you look like. Beta fags like yourself will always struggle with your own masculinity. It's inevitable. I am sure that there is some bovine retard out there waiting for you. She will detest your girlish physique, but she'll let you rub one out on her fat rolls.
As for actual men, we have preferences just like women. Personally, I find the fitness/physique look sort of appealing. Of course, a lot of that might be based on the fact that I can appreciate the hard work and dedication and of course, they can appreciate the same in me.
Though your comments quoted above were not directed toward me I shall respond all the same as I find muscular, mannish woMen repulsive. I have zero problems with my masculinity but a myriad of them with a woman's artificially induced masculinity. I am far from intimidated by a shenis sporting dyke but again, find them disgustingly repulsive and all because I am 100% man. You make the assumption of the man you are rebuking that he is somehow a "beta fag". Does finding masculine feMales attractive now make you an "alpha fag" or just a run of the mill schmoe? Let us be real, shall we?
There is zero "hard work and dedication" that goes into injecting chemicals into one's body. Surely you jest? Yes, different men do possess different preferences but to date I've yet to meet a man worthy of the title "Man" that thinks a masculinized, huge clit bearing she-beast is attractive. Schmoes? Yes. Men? No.
So this begs the question, are you a schmoe or a real man? I suspect the latter of the two and that you're just playing idiot's advocate here. This often occurs when someone that uses AAS (and I really have no idea if you do) desperately attempts to rationalize their own use via justification of another's misuse. You get the idea.
People want to do what they want to do and call it good even when it's painfully obvious that its anything but. This is not a debate you can win because it only makes you appear ignorant and you are anything but. Trust me on this.
Be well.
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I think this would be my limit as far as female muscularity. toned but not ripped and manly looking
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y182/swingbell/bm/bm%205/bm0510xrachelmclish.jpg)
Oh yeah - god had a good day.
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Though your comments quoted above were not directed toward me I shall respond all the same as I find muscular, mannish woMen repulsive. I have zero problems with my masculinity but a myriad of them with a woman's artificially induced masculinity. I am far from intimidated by a shenis sporting dyke but again, find them disgustingly repulsive and all because I am 100% man. You make the assumption of the man you are rebuking that he is somehow a "beta fag". Does finding masculine feMales attractive now make you an "alpha fag" or just a run of the mill schmoe? Let us be real, shall we?
There is zero "hard work and dedication" that goes into injecting chemicals into one's body. Surely you jest? Yes, different men do possess different preferences but to date I've yet to meet a man worthy of the title "Man" that thinks a masculinized, huge clit bearing she-beast is attractive. Schmoes? Yes. Men? No.
So this begs the question, are you a schmoe or a real man? I suspect the latter of the two and that you're just playing idiot's advocate here. This often occurs when someone that uses AAS (and I really have no idea if you do) desperately attempts to rationalize their own use via justification of another's misuse. You get the idea.
People want to do what they want to do and call it good even when it's painfully obvious that its anything but. This is not a debate you can win because it only makes you appear ignorant and you are anything but. Trust me on this.
Be well.
My words we directed solely at the trainer. Nobody else.
And I too am not a fan of the female enhanced look.
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They are hard, they have better abs than you, vascularity, speaking purely my personal preference...it felt odd, like a muscular , small dude with implants and a vagina
I'm glad I've never had that experience. Was her cooch any different?
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My words we directed solely at the trainer. Nobody else.
And I too am not a fan of the female enhanced look.
Ah, I will stay out of it then. Thanks!
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(http://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/full/855041455.jpg)
Tranny delight. Muscular women are disgusting.
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It's your body do what you want with it, doesn't mean people have to like it.
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This is about women being allowed to make their own decisions
Idiot.
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how's this sound?
"don't take male hormones"
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Overheard a couple of 300 pound Walmart whales at the gym today saying they don't want to get too muscular. ::)
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and go prepare myself for the onslaught of ignorance.
lol
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Yup, totally normal looking.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_agHXcORx9eY/R8TKvRvamzI/AAAAAAAAASI/9xX8rCBVPIk/s320/veins.jpg)
(http://toptenfeeds.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/renne-top-ten-female-bodybuilder.jpg)
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This is how I like my muscle women.
(https://trainelite.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Eva-Andressa-After-Butt.jpg)
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every single woman out there that's into serious lifting has some personal issues which she's compensating for - FACT, same goes for men but on a smaller scale compared to most women
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every single woman out there that's into serious lifting has some personal issues which she's compensating for - FACT, same goes for men but on a smaller scale compared to most women
i just lift to get the 18 years hebrew honeys
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I'm just going to leave this right here and go prepare myself for the onslaught of ignorance.
http://www.tonygentilcore.com/blog/an-open-letter-to-everyone-who-has-told-women-dont-get-too-muscular/ (http://www.tonygentilcore.com/blog/an-open-letter-to-everyone-who-has-told-women-dont-get-too-muscular/)
An Open Letter to Everyone Who Has Told Women “Don’t Get Too Muscular”
well I for one LOVE thick strong women, and would have no problem if my girl was stronger than me neither, hell even in hyena world the female hyenas are bigger and stronger than the males and the female hyenas dominate them. It's natural.
And I'm currently circling this one girl who's a gym enthusiast and she is so in my head I can't think other women currently because she's wife material, strong legs and ass, great posture, bf around 20 maybe under and looks phat as fuck. she has that doesn't give a shit attitude but hates duck faces. I pray to god I will get her. I will post pictures when it's more convenient, right now it's top secret and pointless to post them.
phat women are the best thing in this world.
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Lobstah - the problem is that there are TONS of men that are so incredibly jealous of the amount of muscle that some women have. It destroys their ego to realize that God simply passed over them when doling out genetics so they take the bitch road and whine like little pussies.
Don't worry about what they say - there is not ONE whiner on this board that would have a shot with a real chick - whether she is a skinny model or a jacked bb.. This place has become a haven for the have nots of the world
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Lobstah - the problem is that there are TONS of men that are so incredibly jealous of the amount of muscle that some women have. It destroys their ego to realize that God simply passed over them when doling out genetics so they take the bitch road and whine like little pussies.
Don't worry about what they say - there is not ONE whiner on this board that would have a shot with a real chick - whether she is a skinny model or a jacked bb.. This place has become a haven for the have nots of the world
men just get turned off by the effects male hormones have on a ffemales face and hair
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men just get turned off by the effects male hormones have on a ffemales face and hair
Add skin into the equation as well.
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Add skin into the equation as well.
look at ariel palumbo
looked like a young babe 2 years ago
total train wreck now with hairline fucked as mine
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look at ariel palumbo
looked like a young babe 2 years ago
total train wreck now with hairline fucked as mine
She does have a high hair line.
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She does have a high hair line.
she is going BALD
she has even spoken on the matter how she lost a ton of hair on certain orals (winstrol? proviron? anavar? cant remember, in fact good luck getting anavar on black market ::) )
getbig has speculated that her nose shape has also changed from the hormones
quite possible but i cant find "before" pictures
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look at ariel palumbo
looked like a young babe 2 years ago
total train wreck now with hairline fucked as mine
and bostin made her synthol her delts and god knows what else aswell :-X
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she is going BALD
she has even spoken on the matter how she lost a ton of hair on certain orals (winstrol? proviron? anavar? cant remember, in fact good luck getting anavar on black market ::) )
Sad. It's not worth it. Natty for a female means that you can never get so called too big and it means that you don't have to suffer from any nasty side affects from taking drugs.
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and bostin made her synthol her delts and god knows what else aswell :-X
where is dave palumbo in all this?
isnt he supposed to be the voice of reason as bostin's coach?
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Sad. It's not worth it. Natty for a female means that you can never get so called too big and it means that you don't have to suffer from any nasty side affects from taking drugs.
it wouldnt be worth it for men either if we had the choice to get big and bald or small with hair everybody chooses hair
but steroids dont cause hairloss in men, just accelerate the inevitable in those prone to it, because even without steroids the testicles produce testosterone which turns into DHT which triggers hairloss in those whose hairfollicles are sensitive to it
so with men, it's not even a choice
women however, they are basically bringing baldness on themselves by choice when taking steroids, men are just accepting the possibility of speeding up a process that was taking place naturally
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where is dave palumbo in all this?
isnt he supposed to be the voice of reason as bostin's coach?
When you have Palumbo in your corner as the voice of reason you are basically fucked.
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When you have Palumbo in your corner as the voice of reason you are basically fucked.
he probably gets a kick out of all this
encouraging crazy behavior and laughing his ass off :-\
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look at ariel palumbo
looked like a young babe 2 years ago
total train wreck now with hairline fucked as mine
That's what Dana liar Bailey's hairline looks like under her wig.
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That's what Dana liar Bailey's hairline looks like under her wig.
a generous assumption
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Lobstah - the problem is that there are TONS of men that are so incredibly jealous of the amount of muscle that some women have. It destroys their ego to realize that God simply passed over them when doling out genetics so they take the bitch road and whine like little pussies.
Don't worry about what they say - there is not ONE whiner on this board that would have a shot with a real chick - whether she is a skinny model or a jacked bb.. This place has become a haven for the have nots of the world
*SNICKER*
And life is like a penis. It's short, but when it gets hard it seems so long. In other words, how dumb can you be with that gobbledigook quoted above? What are you, some kind of an emo kid?