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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: dillboy on August 25, 2014, 03:25:38 PM
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How is it that modern bodybuilders just don't seem to have the same conditioning as the guys in the 90's.
Is it mainly drugs or just diet?
Example
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Incredibly gay music. Richard simmons would cringe if he heard it. Phil comes in similar shape. Dorian and muenzer were standard bearers. One is dead other was a freak. I also think most today overdo slin for size and use dnp to cut fat but that is pure speculation.
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How is it that modern bodybuilders just don't seem to have the same conditioning as the guys in the 90's.
Is it mainly drugs or just diet?
Example
Shawn was actually better in 92/93/94 he was sharper. It's insulin and the fear of diuretics
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Incredibly gay music. Richard simmons would cringe if he heard it. Phil comes in similar shape. Dorian and muenzer were standard bearers. One is dead other was a freak. I also think most today overdo slin for size and use dnp to cut fat but that is pure speculation.
I have seen a few posing routines to the same track over the years. I think everyone just wants to be like Shaun but that physique was simply incredible.
I don't think I have seen anything like it since that comes close to being as aesthetic.
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Despite Shawn always posing to gay music, it's stunning to me that he never win an O. Those few years when he was showing up sliced and diced? ... WOW.
Still one of my very favourite bodybuilders of all time.
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Despite Shawn always posing to gay music, it's stunning to me that he never win an O. Those few years when he was showing up sliced and diced? ... WOW.
Still one of my very favourite bodybuilders of all time.
Yes easily imitated routine but never replaceable physique
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94 and maybe 90 were his best shouts. Not an expert on those eras. I think shawn said Labrada should've won 90 when they tested ???
Great bodybuilder, one of the last who stuck to the original ideals of bodybuilding - that it is an artistic expression of what the human form should be. Problem was, judging criteria don't allow for that and size + condition were more objective factors. How can you give a 225lb conditioned guy the O ahead of a 260lb ultra shredded guy?
The judging criteria are the problems.
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This discussions been beat to death..but Shawn understood bodybuilding
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Shawn is one of my favorite old school guys.
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/bodybuilders/ray10.jpg)
(http://www.isteroids.com/bodybuilding/images/shawn_ray2.jpg)
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Amazing physique there (no homo).
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Amazing physique there (no homo).
how can you say no homo when he is married to a man
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how can you say no homo when he is married to a man
I don't believe that. Why would he be when he could have almost any girl?
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Bob Paris is gay
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I don't believe that. Why would he be when he could have almost any girl?
most handsome men are often gay
a girl told me this
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I don't believe that. Why would he be when he could have almost any girl?
If you could have any woman would you like it? You should know being gay makes that impossible.
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Shawn's inspiration still bodybuilding and in better shape than the fat slob Shawn has become. This from last year.
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Shawn's inspiration still bodybuilding and in better shape than the fat slob Shawn has become. This from last year.
This is real bodybuilding , check out the lower lat striations when he's doing the gay walk @ 0:07
This guy and IFBB judges ruined bodybuilding
(http://www.muscleandbrawn.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1248)
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most handsome men are often gay
a girl told me this
What is the rationale behind that though? It would be like porking yourself. The natural instinct is to go for what you do not have (ie. the opposite sex).
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This is real bodybuilding , check out the lower lat striations when he's doing the gay walk @ 0:07
This guy and IFBB judges ruined bodybuilding
(http://www.muscleandbrawn.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1248)
Him and Dorian
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Him and Dorian
wow
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Him and Dorian
You are correct .
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most handsome men are often gay
a girl told me this
Not in my case
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Yeah the guy is so awesome he sent his mom to jail on his behalf. Repaying his mom for the time she kept him in her womb. Shawn Ray is a fucking piece of shit, he'd sell his family to save himself
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I've said this before but besides the gh & slin a lot of it has to due with digital vs film. Film has a lot more grain than digital so that adds to the detail and sharpness.
The 90s guys are all captured by film(both video and pictures)
Digital is better than film in a lot of ways but there's a certain look and detail captured with film that can't yet be reproduced with digital. In the film industry many top directors are saving film from extinction - even tho its more expensive and time consuming - for this very reason I speak of.
Plus, when you have a shitty quality conversion of film uploaded to youtube with a lot of noise(its like grain) and grain like I said...things will seem more detailed.
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Shawn should of been Mr. O after Haney
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Shawn should of HAVE been Mr. O after Haney.
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Phil Heath blows away that never has been Shaun Ray.
Shaun couldn't even hold Heath's used posing trunks.
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I've said this before but besides the gh & slin a lot of it has to due with digital vs film. Film has a lot more grain than digital so that adds to the detail and sharpness.
The 90s guys are all captured by film(both video and pictures)
Digital is better than film in a lot of ways but there's a certain look and detail captured with film that can't yet be reproduced with digital. In the film industry many top directors are saving film from extinction - even tho its more expensive and time consuming - for this very reason I speak of.
Plus, when you have a shitty quality conversion of film uploaded to youtube with a lot of noise(its like grain) and grain like I said...things will seem more detailed.
Maybe but I've seen Shawn in his prime and he's very conditioned , striations everywhere . Dex is the same and right now I work out at the same gym as Kuclo and seen him get ready for shows and he has no where near the condition and very smooth even 10 days out of a competition. The insulin is the main culprit
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shawn ray got the placings he deserved.
yes labrada shouldve got 1990.. and he probably shouldve won 1991 also.
ray's bottom half was too blocky and overpowered his upper body.
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I find it interesting the whole story on his mother is still not out. Ive heard rumors like everyone else but nothing ever confirmed.
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shawn ray got the placings he deserved.
yes labrada shouldve got 1990.. and he probably shouldve won 1991 also.
ray's bottom half was too blocky and overpowered his upper body.
Sorry bro, but no way.... Haney and Yates were miles ahead of the crowd in 91..
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How is it that modern bodybuilders just don't seem to have the same conditioning as the guys in the 90's.
Is it mainly drugs or just diet?
Example
Hello again Junior
Date account registered 2006
Reported,
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Maybe but I've seen Shawn in his prime and he's very conditioned , striations everywhere . Dex is the same and right now I work out at the same gym as Kuclo and seen him get ready for shows and he has no where near the condition and very smooth even 10 days out of a competition. The insulin is the main culprit
Dexters best conditioning beats Shaun Rays best.
Shaun was no blade.
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most handsome men are often gay
a girl told me this
Was the girl single?
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This guy and IFBB judges ruined bodybuilding
(http://www.muscleandbrawn.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1248)
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Bob Paris...the modern Steve Reeves ;) one of my favourites ( no homo) ;D
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Was the girl single?
i think so
her ideal man is mario lopez but she said a man that handsome is probably gay
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This is real bodybuilding , check out the lower lat striations when he's doing the gay walk @ 0:07
:o :o amazing physique! wouldn't even place in today's tanned turds on the stage dominated world.
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Despite Shawn always posing to gay music, it's stunning to me that he never win an O. Those few years when he was showing up sliced and diced? ... WOW.
Still one of my very favourite bodybuilders of all time.
Shawn is one of the all time greats from that era.
Sadly, there has never been a gay judge nd the majority of the fans are hot, single woman in the 21-35 yr old demographic .
The gaywad posing music killed his chances...